Iranian of the Day

David ET

Like I said, by the way you reply, you're probably nothing but a charlatan.
Read again: I say "marketing-driven-type"! Have you EVER really managed/been in a campaign?? I don't think so...
See, the way you run your mouth, I'm led to think YOU would be an IRI supporter (or maybe a shahollahi, the two are not that different) -- or in any case, the holier-than-pope type (ashe daghtar az kase, actually) you mention yourself. You just "create" too much cr@p about the person you're "debating" and want to shove it down everyone's throat. Well that's called "avamfaribi" -- an IRI and shahollahi technique, usually.
Once you have cooled down go back to read what you've said and you might see what I mean if you don't live in denial as much as some of your other political comrades.
I'm glad at least I got you to READ about Mir-Sayyafi!
And you can go to hell now. People like you only make me puke from the deepest of my stomach.
If I were to make a list of all iranian.com lunatics and Don Quixotes, you'd probably be somewhere in the middle of the list, which should be good news for you, actually.

i don't think

that she was/is hero.. but assuming what you said is true , she was a troubled kid/child who needed help..taking this type of action at the very young age or child age.. is not something that deserve this type of punishment.. she needed help not execution....

Dear Jaleho, I believe we cross-posted. I wonder if you'd be

amenable to moving your discussion to the special Delara polemics blog I mentioned just below (see link). I shall post there now a message for you.

//iranian.com/main/blog/rosie-roxy-roshan/special-blog-those-who-wish-debate-about-delara

  Parham, Omidreza's

Parham,

Omidreza's tragic death was buried in the news section on this site which is probably why it hadn't received as much attention.  His case wasn't taken up by Amnesty International and it should have been.  When any one of us hear or read of inhumanity it should be told to our regional AI chapter.  They're very good at the very least bringing awareness, updating and putting pressure on governments.  We don't know the guilt or innocence of this poor girl.  We do know according to her lawyer that she initially confessed when told that she wouldn't be executed for being a minor by taking the fall for someone else.  As things unfolded she recanted her testimony and her defense had new evidence.  According to Amnesty International this was a cynical move on the part of the authorities to avoid domestic and international protests which might have saved Delara’s life.  

I agree with you that we should show equal outrage when injustice and brutality happens.  Perhaps we should all be more vigilant and campaign to some capacity.   AI had been campaigning for her since 2006.  I don't think anybody here intentionally overlooked Omidreza's brutal treatment but I do think that everybody here has a right to discuss Delara's execution as they see fit.

A HERO is made of a cold-blooded murderer thief?!

Now, one may be against capital punishment in ALL countries, but first, how come we don't hear from FOX news and all the US media the same outrage over MANY Americans who have been executed in the US?!

And how come a hero is made out of a cold-blooded murderer thief? Just becasue the FOX news told you so?

A 17 year old woman with the help of her boyfriend stabs to death her own father's cousin, a mother of three, while trying to steal from her house. She first confesses to the murder, later claims that her boyfriend not she herself did the killing. After six years, the investigation, all evidence, and all family member are convinced that she is the murderer. She is even given a chance by her own family to apologize for the murder and set free. But, hoping that the  western media's propaganda would help her release, she even refuses to apologize to the family of the victims, including her three children. Now, we see all the anti-IRI people here shedding tears for the murderer, which is OK if one is anti-Capital punishment, but making a hero out of the murdering thief to make a political dirty point??!!

In another blog, Anonymous Fish was funny enough when I printed the LIST of ALL AMERICANS who were executed, and she thought American executions are fine but Iranians are BAAAAD! After all, Americans are "civil" and their executions are not murder apparantly, but that of IRI is!!

Did any of you even know the name of these souls killed just this year in the US, as you know the name of Delara and wear her picture as your ID?

//deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions-united-states-2009

Are any of you are trying to prevent these upcoming executions in the US?

//www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/upcoming-executions

I've set up a special blog for those who wish to debate

about Delara and/or any topics related to her, so that this and other threads about her be places of grieving and of unity. That would be my personal wish. Of course you are free to do as you see fit.

//iranian.com/main/blog/rosie-roxy-roshan/special-blog-those-who-wish-debate-about-delara

Peace be with her and her family

I am not sure about the details of the case, but it seemed she really did not get justice.

Parham

I don't  support nor even trust David Etebari and his organization. But still, I deplore Delara's destiny.

I remember well that blog about Omid-Reza, but I did not expressed myself on that one, because I was not well informed about him, before his death. When I am not informed enough, I don't express myself. But dear Parham, pain is pain. Of course we feel sad each time we hear of a victim, but not every time we demonstrate our anger...Maybe we should.

کتاب آرزو نا خوانده

دلارا آمدی، بیدل از این گیتی‌ کجا رفتی‌؟

چو دارابی، چرا تشنه به صحرای فنا رفتی‌؟

همه عمر و جوانی بر سر زندان هدر کردی

کتاب آرزو نا خوانده از مکتب کجا رفتی‌؟

به سر امید هستی‌ داشتی و خواهش فردا

چرا مهری ندیده با غمی بی‌ انتها رفتی‌؟

به عمر کوته ات آز و پلیدی زخم کاری زد

به دیدار چه معشوقی از این دنیای ما رفتی‌؟

Parham

no sir the one who does not call MURDER , lack of proper and immediate medical care of a political prisoner who should not have been there to begin with is the one who does not understand the case just you do not recognize the direct relevance of that to Dalaras execution and other recent violations.
marketing driven ? what has any one ever sold you or marketed to you in the name of Delara?
and take your threats and trash where it belongs ... tragic days like this some of us have no patience for TRASH of holier than popes or for supporters of IR. come another day and let people mourn for Delaras and for the pain they have suffered in the past 30 years...

Mrs

I won't even bother with your message. It's wrong from the first sentence... See, this is what I mean...

today was one the worst day of my life..

and it doesn' end..

God help her mother and her family..she should not be executed.. even if she murdered someone.. she did it when she was a baby if she did ..... and I am sure she had no deep underestanding of she was about to do....

I heard another sad story in Radio today , a lady called Dr. Hulakoui program  and talked about how her teen son was murdered by bunch of mexican gang.. oh God help us.. help all of us..

Poor baby .. what she went through to the last moment...

Hope we change oneday and become a civilized country and people..

You do the crime, You do the time!

Good riddance!

Never feel sorry for murders. Always remember their victims because they are the ones that are always forgotten in all of this. Hopefully the family of her victim can now bring closure to their tragedy.

And to those who are trying to turn this into a political debate about freedom and democracy, all I have to say is please, please, please get some common sense and learn the proper time for debating politics. Connecting everything to the misdeeds of the IRI makes you look like the same Islamic fanatics that you are criticizing.

Souri, Merci for the

Souri, Merci for the info.

David ET

I'm not exactly trashing (it's actually "thrashing") anyone here, but you, I will.

Ever heard of "fishing from muddy waters"? I say you're only trying to bring attention to yourself and whatever campaign you're supposedly involved with, and I say you are a charlatan. I also say it's charlatans like yourself who give a bad name to whatever campaign for ANYTHING us others try to manage.

Take it from there and keep your bull to those who will actually take it from you. Until then, try not to appear too often on my radar, mister.

1- No, I'm calling this marketing-driven-type.
2- No, I'm saying she confessed to being accessory to murder, and she never retracted that to the end.
3- Of course yes, read my message. Until you haven't read it, you should not open your mouth. There is cr@p coming out of it with every word and you don't realize.
4- Omid-Reza Mir-Sayyafi wasn't exactly "killed", you don't even know about the case.
5- I don't need your permission to start any campaign. See, that's where you are THE charlatan. What the &%#@ do you know about me to put down that crap? If I were you, I would apologize immediately...
And for the rest, I wish you told me that to my face! The computer keyboard makes too many people feel a lot more courageous than they actually are.

The trial's over, the judgement's done..

no one should be on trial here. No one.

Can't we just let that go, please?

Parham

I read all your comments and my conclusion is that your distractional whining at this moment of unity and sympathy has nothing whatsoever with your so called caring about murder of Omid-Reza Mir-Sayyafi by the Islamic Regime but it has to do with an obvious bias by you against Nazanin Afshin-Jam, SCE and Delara Darabi:
1- you call this a marketing campaign
2- you refer to a 17 year old , a minor, shocked sensitive girls confession after her dad rejected her who thought by confessing can save another persons life .
since when confession of a minor who is not aware of her rights nor has she been made aware of without presence of an attorney in the dungens of Islamic Republic is sufficient ground for you and IR to consider her guilty? but then you ignore 6 years of claiming innocence by her !!!!!
3- Does Delaras innocence even matter which minors should not be executed to begin with?
4- Omid-Reza Mir-Sayyafi as you said was killed 2 months ago with not much history while Delara was executed after 6 years of campaigning to save her which obviously brought attention to her case.
5- If you so concerned you too form a campaign and call it Stop Blogger Executions and work 6 years and countless hours to raise awareness and we will be the first to support you but Stop trashing others or people's genuine emotions

The day that you realize that fighting for Delara's right to justice is same as fighting for the right of Omid-Reza Mir-Sayyafi
or yours, is the day you too make a leap towards unity for a common cause: FREEDOM AND JUSTICE FOR A L L

Parham

This isn’t a competition between 2 executed people. We are not activists! Maybe you are. If so, then it’s your job to take any of these cases, marketing driven or not, and get something out of it help the next blogger on death row.

Maybe she’s getting more attention because she’s a young girl or pretty or ugly or in Rasht or on the moon or whatever. Many victims of injustice are never heard of. When one of them is being heard, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

Yes, she was probably guilty. And yes, even in the US she would’ve been tried as an adult. But why in secret? Why without notification of a lawyer and so on? These illegal actions are common in all these cases whether for prisoners of conscience or blood thirsty homicidal maniacs. And when it’s wrong, it’s wrong for all of them. If one case is getting attention, it can help the rest. Now, if it helps you somehow to blame the world for not being there for other victims, that’s ok.

Justice is not fun; If one

Justice is not fun;
If one kills another innocent soul, it is by choice. WHen justice system hangs one for the crime, the justice is served to contain further damage to social system.

مهربانی کی سر آمد؟

Bless her soul.

Rosie, ...

Rosie, ...

Friends

If you are saddened and you are hurting for Delara, I modestly suggest that you use meditation or prayer to sooth and ease your pain. We all need to come to peace with her loss…

Parham, it's interesting that you bring up the notion of

"accessory", because I just used the word "complicitous" to mean the same thing in something I wrote today (below). Now you, we, we're all complicitous, we're all complicitous...we'e all accessories to things which are..wrong...

and it's not right to argue or debate while people are grieving. And it's not so much the content of what you say, it's things like "now 'ithis one'". That's a iwrong way to refer to someone in a place where people have gathered to mourn. Complicitous..can't you see, can't you hear, that your very tone is complicitous in somethng that is..simply..wrong?  That you're an accessoryright now  to something..wrong..

Now I'm not debating, I'm not agendaizing. I won't. I am simply asking you from the bottom of my heart to please allow people to mourn. Everyone has a right to have their time to mourn and no one at that time has a right to judge them.

This thread is a funeral. "

//iranian.com/main/blog/rosie-roxy-roshan/delara-and-we-land-birds

Islamists' psychopathic joy...

I tend to believe that islamists target the weakest amongst the iranian population, the ones that have no place to go to, no one to turn to, and have no money to bribe them with, like this poor girl from a broken poor family.

I tend to believe that they enjoy being brutal with weak people to satisfy their psychopathic thirst for criminality and brutality. They certainly do that with complete peace of mind and ease of conscious compared to someone who does not believe in sharia law and is not religious. If you look at the comments, you see a near total absence of any sympathy from all those who usually rush to defend the IRI, to curse the pahlavis, to bad mouth the west, to blame it all on zionists, and to sympathize for palestinians in any discussion, related or unrelated. It seems that they are at total ease with any brutality that IRI commits on iranians, specially the weak, as long as it has the stamp of approval of their fraudulent religion.

Oh well, that is the nature of islam and islamist; nothing more needs to be said.

Let's face it people, this gang who is ruling iran in the name of islam will neither yield power and wealth nor will stop oppression of iranians, let them be students, poorly veiled women, or desperately poor families. That 1% of population will continue to rule iran and commit murder for as long they can, and neither reform nor peaceful means can bring any change.

The only viable solution is an effective iranian that can push them aside by force, and imprison them forever for the sake of the rest of iranians and the future of iran; someone like reza shah is needed more than ever, as concepts of democracy has failed to bring any result for the last 30 years, 30 long years that so many countries managed to bring themselves out of misery and prosper.

KHODA BIYA MORAZATESH! Condolences to all the familes!

I don't know enough to judge whetehr she was guilty or not, but I do know if we are going to kill people like her, then we should kill at least 90% of the iranian government! Then I can say the justice is done!

Where is the real justice? If we go after the killers, which we should, we should prioritize them:

1. Bush/Cheny, Khamenei. 2. Majority of IRI governemnt. 3. Israeli governement. 4. Chinese governemnt. 5. Darfur governement. 6. Saudi/ Mobarak/Kadafi/Asad Governements. 7. Russian Governemnt. 8. I can go on and on. After all of these guys are killed, then we should go after Wall Street criminals who have destryoed much more lives than any criminal.

Come on guys, she might be guilty, but the real criminals are the those who ordered her execution. This is my problem. She was an easy target. However, there are thousands like her who are not famous and we won't know about them!

May peace be upon us all! Find Love and God in your heart! Be kind and forgiven, and don't wish bad for people! My heart goes for her mother and her family, as well as all those whom we don't know! 

Remember, KHODA= KHOD A(GAHI),  which is inside you! Peace!  

Persian Westender

Unfortunately this capital punishment is still practiced in many countries and even some states of the USA. There's a very good movie I suggest to you and all friend to see about that:

The life of David Gale (2003) starring Kevin Spacey and Laura Linney

//www.imdb.com/title/tt0289992/

This movie is based on a true story, very tragic, happening in Texas.

In Delars's case, the most tragic thing after that capital punishment is the malicious and hypocritical way of misleading the public, saying that they will delay the execution, while they were lying.

Bia...

Now this one even claims she was INNOCENT, while she herself had confessed to the crime of being an accessory to murder, never even mind the murder itself...
THAT's what I'm talking about...

Condolences............

This poor girl was not found guilty and even if she was, she did not get a fair trail...

Deepest condolences to her family, friends and her loved ones who are now left behind after this criminal tragedy to this defenceless Iranian woman....

Poor Delara like thousands of other innocent Iranians must have suffered beyond any level of comprehension and up to the last breath of her short and unjust life prior her unjust and criminal execution...

Delara, May GOD have mercy on your soul elsewhere since you were not spared justice this time and on this stupid earth....

We all know who the guilty ones are behind this and such crimes and yet we have remained passive and silent.... Shame on humanity, Shame on us all, Shame on Iran...

Fatollah

Didam

قاضی: جاوید نیا

There is a weird

There is a weird contradiction in capital punishment which I never can figure out. If really killing of someone is that wrong that needs to be punished by the maximum of the possible punishment in judicial system, why is that killing is allowed and justified by the hands of the same system?

This case is only an example and we were informed about it extensively. Sadly, there are many cases which have been remained unrevealed with even more tragic  contents.

My condolences to her family.