Taking a look at ourselves

Jahanshah Javid
by Jahanshah Javid
24-Sep-2009
 

Once in a while go back and read your comments. Aren't you concerned that your anger and finger pointing and sarcasm clearly show through?

I am just one reader. But I can assure you that anyone who reads anything, whether it's your comments, articles, books, whatever, can get a sense of what type of writer they're dealing with as a person. And many of you -- many of us -- come off as Angry people -- with a capital A. There are a million reasons why we harbor this anger. But I just want to remind you that angry people a) don't have an audience, b) have no friends.

Who wants to sit and watch someone shouting and cursing? It might be funny, curious or interesting to observe a fight but there's so much an average person can take. There's nothing gained. Zanandas. Do you care?

Instead of reading ugly outbursts where nothing is learned, your audience will move on to other things that give positive energy. That makes them smile. That makes them think.

So again, read your own comments. Look in the mirror once a while. That's what the world sees. Are you happy with it?

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Souri

Apologizing means nothing........

by Souri on

When you continu your same vicious way over and over, under other names and other tactic.

I repeat it: I dont' need an aspirin, I want the illness to be cured.

 


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Cyrus

by Souri on

My comment to JJ is still here in this same blog. You can just copy and post it here again! You know how to do!!!! As you do it all the time, taking  a phrase out of its context and post it.

Or....

Better again, you can copy and add it into your last post in my blog.


capt_ayhab

Ms. Souri -

by capt_ayhab on

You state[ And yes, I do attack people who are offensive to others! I always did it and will continue to do it, this is my life!]

Then why are you complaining constantly that people attack you. As one of the gentleman put it, [every action has an equal or greater reaction].

Ever since that episode with that gentleman  you have been attacking him, blogging about him, and calling him all the name in the book non stop, even though he apologized for what he said to you.

Be honest, who is the problem here? Him[who apologized], or you, who seems not to be able to let it go?

Life can be much more easier if one can forgive and forget. Donya ke be akhar naresideh ke!

-YT 


Cyrus-SX

Princess

by Cyrus-SX on

what else can I say?

this woman lives here in Iranian.com

and she lies like there is no tomorrow.

She told JJ to remove my comment , I wish I had saved her comment to prove what a liar she is.

that is it for me. I never trusted JJ when he claimed to be an impartial editor, so did so many other people.


Kourosh Aryamanesh

JJ

by Kourosh Aryamanesh on

پس برای ما سوء تفاهم شده چون شعار دم دروازۀ اينجا ، منکر تقدس هر چيزيه. البته بايد از شما ممنون بود که همه را تو اين بازی راه داديد و هنوز حق عضويت نگرفتيد. ما با وجود اينکه تازه وارديم ولی خيلی زود متوجه شديم که بخاطر عقايدمون مورد الطاف امت حزب الله و بسيجی قرار گرفتيم . البته از يک طرفی درست ميفرماييد که بايد توازن حجب و حيا و بد دهنی را نگه داشت و نبايد گذاشت که اختلاف عقيده و سليقه باعث حملات شخصی بشه ولی چه کنيم که گاه گداری لايی در ميديم.  بقول شازده ا.م " هر حرکتی و هر کلامی... مجازاتش اعدامه.  موفق باشيد


Souri

Cyrus

by Souri on

I didn't flag your comment in that blog. It has been flagged  by other peoples (the silent majority?), not me!

Then you came back to insult JJ with the very bad words of your usual habit. I never let such thing stay under my own blog! And the people who goes through this shameful tactic as you do, yes they have to see their account deleted definitely.

This is where JJ is not doing his job! We don't want just an aspirin, we want to cure the illness!

I'd checked your account, it's a two years old user names. But in two years you have posted only two posts, both vulgar!

How many "yadaki" account do you need for proving your pathetic character?

 

 


Cyrus-SX

Princess

by Cyrus-SX on

I agree with you 100%

A couple of months ago I made a suggestion to people living outside Iran not to wear masks when people in Iran who face the regime don't wear any.

And this woman had to stick her nose in and criticise me for not putting my pic beside my comment. And I said if I had put anyone's pic there she would not have noticed it at all. And she goes on blaming everyone.

She even went on telling JJ to remove my comment when I wrote that I look a lot better than her after she has put on a ton of make up. And JJ did remove my comment. She even went on as far as telling JJ to remove my account from ever writing here again. Shameless or what ?

And JJ goes on telling ; let's look at ourselves.

Well well well, Mr JJ ; take a look at yourself for being a 2 face and an impartial editor claiming NOTHING IS SACRED.

Princess; some people are good at telling others what to do and turn around and do the opposit with no shame.


NOT_AK69

Dear Busy Body PC Lefties

by NOT_AK69 on

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.  ~Noam Chomsky


Souri

Princess

by Souri on

I know what you mean. I heard you many times before, too. I do not remember having had any conflict with you personally, but maybe with another user name of yours.

You had pronounced yourself in that Napoleon Complex blog too.

If you see me as a person who "meddle in other people's affairs" then you may see things from a different angle! I always confront people who disrespect others by calling name and personal attack. This is for the respect to general aspect of the communication in the site.

You call yourself "the silent majority" who do not approve my  confrontational attitude. But the silent majority, should speak.

They have to say what they like and what they don't like.I do.

As you said, I don't use insults and profanity (Thanks God) but you are tired of seeing me as "constantly getting involved in the conflicts".

That is because there are more and more conflict in the site. You said that I  have no sense of boundaries and respect for other people to be different and think differently.

This is absurd! How many times I had defended people's right of expression while I wasn't agree with them?

In this site, as long as I remember, I have defended many people but even: Zion, Jaleho, Nur and even Parinaz or the other ladies who writes erotic stories.

They all thinks differently than me. But I went to defend their right of speak, each time they have been attacked.

And yes, I do attack people who are offensive to others! I always did it and will continue to do it, this is my life!

People who stay silent because they think they give a right to the freedom, are not doing their part of responsibility to the humanity.


SamSamIIII

F Fatii

by SamSamIIII on

 

:), What has screwed Iran for centuries is the art of Kisseh keshii & What is worse than a hezbollahi is a kisseh kesh & an opportunist and you my friend are one. For a Kisseh kesh/opportunist it makes no difference wether /he/she is doing it for Shah or Khamenei or a CEO . hiiih, kinda like that soldier looking for gold tooth among the corpses .

&btw going around like a jumpin jack screaming blindly; F ** this F** that and sanction this, bomb that is a sign of an illiterate clueless who IRI has utilized to it,s benefit for the last 30 yrs . So put a lid on your couch potato testoasterone & work on your grade 7 english and grade 3 Farsi & Iran 101 ;:)) .

Cheers !!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


Princess

Alborz

by Princess on

Thanks for backing my suggestion. I, too, hope the administrators will consider it.

Personally, I have more of a problem with aggressive characters than with people who use ugly words to express themselves. There are a few characters on this site who constantly give themselves the right to meddle in other people's affairs and tell other people what to do, and how to behave, yet they don't seem to realise that by such conduct, they are a big part of the problem.

Often some of the comments I read by these individuals make my jaw drop, not because they are using insulting words, but because they seem to have no sense of boundaries and respect for other people to be different and think differently. The last thing we want here is to try to turn everybody into clones of Princess, or Alborz, or JJ, etc. and if and when that day comes believe me a lot more people will leave.

Those who constantly get involved in conflicts on this site, yet believe themselves to be on a moral high horse contribute a big part to the ugly atmosphere on this site. While they are constantly pointing out other people's shortcomings, they seem oblivious of their own role in all this. That is why I suggested an 'automatic' scorecard, in the hope that by seeing it black on white, it might get them thinking.

As for the role of the silent majority, I agree with you, but I also can't blame anyone who does not want to get involved in these ugly cat and dog fights. Ironically, often I have read comments by some individuals who presume things, yet I know for a fact that they are wrong and could prove it. However, because I have been able to observe how they interact with other people, I want to avoid them at any cost, so I let them get on with it and make a fool of themselves to others who might know the same thing I know. 

Any way, that will definitely have to be my last contribution to this thread.

Take care,

Princess 


Q

I don't recall anyone inviting you to write or comment

by Q on

Mr. Faramarz,

What's your point?

We're all in the same boat, in that we can write almost anything. The question is how much respect you have for the readers and the website.


Anvar

Dear *Souri*

by Anvar on

I’m glad you enjoyed the video ( with respect to our friend *khar* here, of course : )  It helps to have a sense of humor.

Earlier, you stated: “Sorry, in my world, these things are not acceptable. Then if they are for you, I'll be out!

These things are not acceptable to many of us either. 
Instead of boring you with my own thoughts, I’ll just redirect you to these particular comments that are worth going over: 

*Shepesh*: “I hope that this site does not become a bully playground, but a place of discussion for broad minded people.
-  Those of us who believe in this goal should try to implement it.  Help if you agree.

*Jaleho*: “Why are you going out because some idiots writes garbage?!
-  Good point.  Help them learn not to write garbage.

*alborz*: “I want to simply appeal to the 'silent' majority to make their presence and stance known and realize that their participation will effectively dilute and hopefully 'drown' the hatred on this forum.
-  Excellent points on taking a stance and how the voices of reason can dilute hatred.  Do not join the silent majority.

Anvar


Darius Kadivar

Always Look on the Bright Side of Life ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Especially after the Cruxifiction:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQgXgS5G3c&feature=related

LOL


Faramarz_Fateh

I don't recall inviting you to read or respond

by Faramarz_Fateh on

Mr. Q,

You don't need to be a part of anything you don't want to be a part of.

One of the great services that internet provides is that misinformation and disinformation can be immediately identified and countered.

 


Q

Perhaps we're getting somewhere

by Q on

Reading the comments, we have identified at least some part of the paroblem. We have several people who are on the record saying that a) They are Angry, and b) They can't control themselves.

Now, I understand how powerful therapy can be and it seems the people who can't control themselves are using JJ's site for therapy. I suppose JJ is doing a service for their family and immediate loved ones.

But do the rest of us really have to be a part of this?


Souri

dear Anvar

by Souri on

Thanks for the nice and wise video! It made me laugh and having a better mood ;)

but I must leave here as the space is becoming too much crowded with same old tactic of the same old gang now.

Thanks again for your nice intention.

Good night,


Mola Nasredeen

"How do feel when they delete your comments?"

by Mola Nasredeen on

I asked Hazrate shotor.

"Fuck it" said he.


Faramarz_Fateh

SamSamIII ( SSII )

by Faramarz_Fateh on

Don't hold back buddy...tell us how you really feel?

Damn....I thought I was angry....You have major issues dude. 

 

 


oktaby

Lets not belittle or abuse the honorable F word

by oktaby on

One can be abusive and offensive without ever using a foul word so mere use of the F word does not constitute profanity. Here is the academic overview of the roots and utility of this word: //www.maniacworld.com/f-81.htm 

and here is the wikipedia: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

Say it loudly and proudly: FUCK YOU!

 


Khar

Haaj Ebi, Dude....

by Khar on

Your video link is Priceless buddy! :o)))) Thanks for the laugh I needed it.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-aZHcbMv8


anonymous111.2

The Question to Ask Yourself Is: Are You Man Enough?

by anonymous111.2 on

Before you go around and insult, slander and attack people make sure you have: 1) your facts straight, and 2) the guts to take the heat when you get the much deserved response, and to face the consequences if you are proven wrong.  Listen to our friends, the Four Tops:

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=faaxsHyyIzY


Anvar

Time For a Comic Relief : )

by Anvar on

Friends, sometimes if we tilt the mirror a little bit, we can see others in it too. 

Put yourself in the car in this video and think of it as Iranian.com.  Now see who’s chasing you in the side mirror:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8l_fZWaBY

Anvar


NOT_AK69

F*CK THE I.R.R.

by NOT_AK69 on

Take away the right to say "fuck" and you take away the right to say "fuck the government."  ~Lenny Bruce


Onlyiran

Oh, Fuck These Comments...

by Onlyiran on

I'm bored.

Expanding on the idea by The Mrs., what one can consider profanity, can also be used in other contexts, especially in modern American English, like what I have attempted to do here.  The phrase "fuck these comments", while it may appear as a dragatory term targeted at the comments, is, in fact, an expression by me implying that I do not care to read the comments.  It is not an insult to anyone or any group of people, but rather a figure of speech and an expression.  In that context, there is no need for flagging or removal in my opinion.


oktaby

Beam me up Scotty

by oktaby on

OKtaby


Souri

the proof!

by Souri on

Stop your Jaan jaan things!

Some of you know very well what I'm talking about!

While I'm discussing with you here, he is doing his usual circus in my blog again! Just one week after he has been exposed to the readership and he promised he would never do it again!

 this guy is completely schizophrenic! A dangerous one!


Hajminator

Souri jan

by Hajminator on

Be khodam begoo pedareshoono dar miaram.


NOT_AK69

Souri

by NOT_AK69 on

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.  ~Voltaire


Souri

TheMrs khanom: good point...

by Souri on

Now, please try to get the real picture here:

Suppose that you are silently reading all the comment on a hectic subject where people are passionate and fully disagree.

Then you see someone who never bring a serious point (politically speaking) comes and out of the blue, attack two/three of the members with vulgar words of (chaleh meidouni) talking about the baton and ass!

Then you, as a silent reader, you show your frustration in a polite and even indirect way! then the same guy, say to you that you deserve same treatment, as you came there to defend those people!

Suppose that, this guy is in a gang, then they will always chase you to attack you and ridicule you!

Suppose that you do not have any other account and you are here with your true identity. and suppose that you refuse to get another account, just to hide from the idiocies of this gang!

When will this finish?