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Highlights of RP's Interview in LA on KRSI (video)

Reza Pahlavi Jan 13-2010 at KRSI Radio Sedaye Iran Los Angeles:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt6LvD9tOjU

Full Audio Here:

//iranian.com/main/news/2010/01/14/crown-prince-reza-interviewed-krsi

VPK

We are on the same page brother. But unfortunately, some elements of this poisonous regime will not give up their position without blood. Just look at their paid or brain-washed supporters here on this website. They resort to name calling and insults as means to push their sick agenda.

One thing I do believe is that the ONLY change that will work is the one that comes from within Iran; from those who've been in the middle of this Islamic fuckup for 30 damn years.

There are still a lot of Iranians whose loyalty to their religion has made them blind to the truth about this brutal and anti human regime. Those are the ones this regime relies on and counts on for support. On top of that, you have China and Russia (not to mention the fucking Brits) who are "allies" with the bastard mullahs and their jackal-for-a-mother supporters. While this makes things difficult, the will of the people will deliver the final blow to this regime.

We need to support the people any which way possible.

Dorrod bar shuma.

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maziar 58

v p of khorasan personally I wish there come an opportunity for an
all IRANIAN EXODUS during Bahman & Esfand to celebrate FREE IRAN
and our nowrooz in motherland .

I share your wish my friend. It would be the best NowRuz gift any of us would want.  It is going to happen. The question is: when? The bigger question is: what comes after that. I hope it is: soon, and a democratic government.

To me any sort of democratic government is acceptable. We can debate the actual form. At the end as long as people have freedom; are not persecuted and are able to chose their leaders on a regular basis we will be fine.

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v p of khorasan personally I wish there come an opportunity for an all IRANIAN EXODUS during Bahman & Esfand to celebrate FREE IRAN and our nowrooz in motherland .

I do not think IR is that stupid to arrest and put 4-5 million peoples in jail .        

all the islamist and their supporters can live in southern lebanon. Maziar

The other advantage of

The other advantage of clarity is that those who don't like it, take their filth somewhere else. No harm done.

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The Pahlavis, all mullahs, and all public figures associated with the Green Movement  must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth/income.

Anonymous Observer

Not RP.  Can you provide us with one statement, lecture or communication in which RP has claimed that he should return as king because of his father?  Are you referring to other people making that argument?  How is he responsible for what others say?

This is exactly the problem AO. A problem for 25 years. Otherwise there were people for, or against him. None of these futile discussions were existed. Those who wanted to unite around the constitution, could make an organization, and those who didn't want it, could possibly make another organization. They could -or not- build a coalition. etc. etc. Whatever it could be, one thing is certain. Everything would have been in the clear. This is not your fault Anonymous Observer, it's HIS.

Now what we have? A person called Reza Pahlavi in a futile and non stop discussions, although he is just a person. He is not a 'leader' of anything. He is not accredited spokesman of any community. If he is a qualified person, there are tons of other qualified persons around. A couple of them are 'Iranians of the day' here in IC every week.

Now you tell me AO, what makes Reza Pahlavi so different from others? If he is one among others, who should build a political body with equal weigh with others, then were is  all those intense and hot discussions about OTHERS? Who are they anyway?

I'm not blaming you AO. I'm blaming RP for creating such confusion in political discourse.

We have ONE legitimate constitution, never dismissed or modified democratically. This is not RP heritage. It's OUR historic heritage. RP happen to have a role ACCORDING to this constitution. We want to modify it, fine. We want to change it, fine. If we now claim we know few things about democracy that we didn't know in the past, then let's do it DEMOCRATICALLY.

For doing so, first we have to have a free referendum for choosing between IRI constitution and monarchic constitution. If the outcome of this FREE referendum is in favour of IRI constitution, then I guess those who support it will figure out what to do next.

But if -and more likely when- the outcome is in favour of monarchic constitution, then those who favored this option, will carry out with stabilizing the country and preparing a constituent assembly for determining the final structure of secular democracy in Iran.

As you see Reza, clarity makes everything clear. Lack of it, keeps everybody guessing at best, and arguing about your father and your nose and your extra fat forever.

Cost of Progress

I agree with all the things you said. specially about 1979. However the enemies of Iran missed one thing. The revolution sent millions of us all over the world. This allowed us to become familiar with many different political systems and cultures. That along with the information revolution has made us much more sophisticated. We can no longer be manipulated by mambo jumbo of Mullahs or Leftists. Now we rapidly approach a time that Iran will need us and whatever we have learned. Here are my thoughts:

• The Iranian people want real freedom and democracy. That is obvious.
• The Iranian diaspora should play a role in the future of Iran. We have abilities that are necessary and can help reconstruct Iran.
• Right now, we have a limited amount of time to debate and reach agreement.
• Once the IRR falls  patriotic Iranians need to move quickly to ensure Iran remains united and that the new regime is democratic.
• We probably won't reach anything near 100% agreement but it would be nice for the diaspora to agree on basic principles and have an umbrella organization.
• I think IIC is a good basis for such an organization.

What do you think?

Let The Future be about building Democratic institutions

Let The Future be about building Democratic institutions, not personalities, personal political agenda and ambition.

A more inclusive system, not dependent on the imperfect partisan adversarial western model, dependent on special interests and the power and influence  they wield through political donations and campaign financing.

Please look at this documentary "Beyond King o the Mountain", as an example of what is possible as  a more organic form of governance,  based on cooperation.

Without a new inspired  model, taking into account our own painful painful history and others' experience , we are destined to continue in the same wasteful vicious circle, that at best is only partially democratic and not wholly representative.

Worst thing about Reza

Just like Rajavi, he also tries to use foreign powers in order to gain power in Iran, instead of building support for himself among people. In his mind, he has already lost. He has no real hope of every doing anything. He can see that he does not have any real support. So since a while ago, he has started raising the "human rights in Iran" flag which is an indirect request for bombing of Iran by foreign forces. In his interviews he has squarely put himself up as a potential whore of the West if they use force and put him in there - just like they did for his father.

Until a few years ago he used to act and talk very democratic but he saw no real support from people and he probably felt pressured to provide a solution and do something (by his small circle of support) and his solution seems to have been to appeal to foregn forces and whore himself to them hoping his offering will be accepted. He is not smart enough to realize that despite all the hype, the current regime is still far more valuable to the West (including Israel) than Reza's future regime would ever be. In fact, that is the very reason his father was removed from position by the West and Israelis, and Khomeini was put in his place. Why would the West reverse such a fantastically fruitful business? The amount of money the west saved due to "revolution" was beyond what CIA designers of the "revolution" had imagined. Why would they want to destroy all that and bring Reza to power? Reza is so naive that he thinks the West is actually interested in human rights in Iran. Clearly, he has a LOT to learn.

Bavafa - Phantom

Bavafa:

 "the problem is that it is being argued that he should be the leader because of his father."

Who's making that "argument"?  Not RP.  Can you provide us with one statement, lecture or communication in which RP has claimed that he should return as king because of his father?  Are you referring to other people making that argument?  How is he responsible for what others say?

Pahntom,

No, he should not apologize for his father's acts or omissions.  The concept that no one should be held to account for "the sins of his father" is fundamental to building a society that is governed by the rule of law.  To demand otherwise is to have a society that is ruled by vendettas.   

VPK

None of us are career politicians or have a special sense to know , for sure, what will happen in Iran within the next 6-12 months. 

You are correct that at least now, what should unite Iranians, both inside and outside Iran is the need for the current cancerous regime to disappear from the face of the earth. THAT'S IS OUR STRENGTH.

Regardless of whether we like it or not, there is no particular figure for Iranians to rally behind and to guide them through victory. RP is the only figure that may come close to that.

I am NOT a monarchist, but a REALIST! Most Iranians think with their heart, not their brains. We allow emotions to take hold of our better sense of judgment. If we disliked Shah (for whatever reason), we autmatically hate his son - We don't care -or know - why, but we do.

We must think about Iran; what makes sense for her during these  sensitive times.

In 1979, there was a carefully planned and formulated plot to de construct Iran, to drastically slowdown human and intellectual growth and to send her back to the stone-age, at least from an intellectual standpoint. Today, IT APPEARS that it is ONLY the Iranian people who long for freedom, for an open society and one that treats everyone the same. There's no one out there behind them, to rally them.

We are an ancient civilization - What the hell hapened to us? If we do not unite in our approach and thinking and act on it, the enemies of Iran, those who would sell her in a heatbeat to advance "their" casue will continue to knaw and her very being until there's nothing left....

I would expect for RP to be more active, to speak his mind and to outline what he sees for Iran and how to convert thoughts into actions.

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Cost-of-Progress

I am in agreement with you over our desires for the future of Iran. Maybe we are arguing over Monarchy because most of us agree with the basic premise that  IRR has to go. Thanks to Ramin we have formed IIC. Therefore we are not just sitting down doing nothing. We are doing something.

Please make suggestions as what else we could do. Please if you have not already  then join IIC and make suggestions there. 

I think it makes sense to discuss Reza Pahlavi both in the context or Monarchy and as an elected leader. The more discussion the better. We can afford to do it now. Once the IRR goes time for discussion is over. It is better to get the discussion done not just on IC but in as many Iranian forums as possible done now.

We may not be able to go out in streets of Tehran. But we can do many things from outside. However to do so we should at least try to get consensus. So these debates are in my opinion very healthy and timely.

Best,

VPK

FYI/ Reza Pahlavi on ParsTV P2/3 & 3/3

Reza Pahlavi on ParsTV Q&A interviews:
 
 
  Part 1:

 
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  Part 2:
 
  //www.youtube.com/watch?v=W23KKmKVS3A&feature=related
 
  Part 3:

  //www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JfU0cQnIc&NR=1
 
 

Yeah, let's argue over monarchy while

The  anti-nationallist Islamic thugs keep robbing our motherland of her dignity and resources and wipe out our national identity.

They love nothing better than this.

Nice going people.

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jmyt17

A lot of Army man which loved him were putting to
death because they stand for him, and lost their life for a man which
never care about Iran. Just his bank account.

You make a good point. But I don't agree with all of it. I knew some of the military men. Not just army but also other forces. They were good men who were savagely murdered by the "revolutionaries". I do not however blame that on Reza Pahlavi. He was not in charge and had little power.

As for the Shah I do believe he loved Iran not his bank account. But he was a weak man. He had no confidence  and was heavily reliant on USA which betrayed him. The Shah also was very ill and because of it I really think the Shah towards the end was not up to the job anymore.

The past is gone; we must look towards the future. It is important for everyone to get involved in discussions.

Rubbish

I don't get it, what's exactly wrong with his father? Nobody dares to tell rubbish about his father anymore in Iran as people remember well how life was much better before the revolution. From what I'm seeing and hearing here, never during the last thirty years has Mohammad Reza Pahlavi been so popular in Iran. In fact, those who hate the Shah in Tehran are mainly...the foreigners: I'm talking about the British and French Embassy staff and various foreign journalists I have met. I suggest to the very undemocratic and intolerant extreme lefties, bacheh akhounds and Saddam Hussein lovers in this forum to refrain from telling nonsense about RP's father if they ever come back to Iran. You may all face some unpleasant reactions and remarks by doing so.

being argued that he should

being argued that he should be the leader because of his father

No, because the one and only legitimate constitution of Iran. 

The father, the son

He will remain irrelevant to Iranian political scene as long as he pretends his father's history is irrelevant to him. He seems having no problem enjoying the privileges which come with the name; but he refuses the obligations attached to it.

Not With You

Mr. Reza Pahlavi, I do not think you have the right to talk about Iran and it is future.

I think you look like your father, which left all of his men behind in Iran.

A lot of Army man which loved him were putting to death because they stand for him, and lost their life for a man which never care about Iran. Just his bank account.

I love to kick these jerk out of Iran, but not with you and your friends.

To: jasonrobardas

I politely ask everyone to stop debating monarchy versus the islamic regime .

Why? This is a blog! People have a right to debate whatever they want. If you don't like it don't read it.

With all due respect: who are you to tell us what to debate and what not to? Plus you own comment was anything but polite.

Reedam be Shah , Reedam be Khomeini

          I politely ask everyone to stop debating monarchy versus the islamic regime .

          Thank you all .

                           Your's sincererly ,

                                              Jason Robardas .

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Reza Pahlavi

I make no secret of my liking for Reza Pahlavi as a leader but not a dictator. As Cyrus Persian points out we need unity in Iran and I believe that Phalavis are the key to it. There are several reasons why Reza Pahlavi will never become like Khomeini. 

• The first reason is the total difference between Iran now and Iran then. In 1978 Iran was still willing to accept a dictator. People made Khomeini a dictator. Today's youth are not going to accept another dictatorship. They want democracy.

• The second reason is the difference between the two. Khomeini never loved Iran or cared about Iranians. He had no feelings of love towards Iran at all! His allegiance was to Islam not to Iran. Reza Pahlavi on the other hand is a patriotic Iranian who truly loves Iran. In addition Khomeini was a backwards unsophisticated man who wanted to take us back a 1000 years. This was not a secret. Anyone who read Khomeini's writings would know that. Reza Pahlavi is a highly intelligent and educated man. Anyone may read his writings and his opinions. They are a world apart from Khomeini. It is pretty unlikely that he would be anything like Khomeini.

I think people will not be disappointed with Reza Pahlavi.

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Anonymous Observer:

Now you are trying to use logic for a change but failing at it just like when you use slander as your means of argument.

"You argue based on an assumption that just like Khomeini, RP is a free loader who will somehow take advantage of a "pure" movement and install himself on the throne"

I don't believe you have ever taken time to understand and know what I or "the likes of me" argue for and against.

"See, the irony and the inherent problem with the argument of the likes of you is that" not that he should not pursue the leadership role, the problem is that it is being argued that he should be the leader because of his father.

Mehrdad

Bavafa

No.  Khomeini didn't "throw" Shah out of Iran.  Khomeini simply took advantage of other peoples' efforts who threw Shah out of Iran.

See, the irony, and the inherent problem, with the arguments of the likes of you is that you try to attribute what Khomeini did to RP.  You argue based on an assumption that just like Khomeini, RP is a free loader who will somehow take advantage of a "pure" movement and install himself on the throne.  The likelihood of that happening is pretty close to zero.  What RP should be allowed to do is to compete, just like any other Iranian, for a leadership position without being slandered by your bunch.  

Lastly, let's assume that his father was the biggest idiot and biggest dictator / murderer on this planet (kind of tough with Khomeini, Khamenei, etc. around, but let's assume that for a minute).  What that have to do with RP?  Why should he be responsible for his father's crimes and wrongdoings?  You suggesting otherwise shows a draconian and uncompromising mindset that should not exist in any modern , democratic and progressive society.

We will never know how much support RP has until this regime fal

People are not stupid to come out and say they are supporters of his now because they will be hung.

We will see when there is a chance for a free and democractic Iran.

Then anyone that does not have blood on their hands will have a chance to show how much support they have.

Until then all we know is that almost everyone hates this system.  FACT

Anonymous Observer: the

Anonymous Observer: the irony is that this "my beloved Imam" (as you put it) Khomeini (kon nashor as I put it) which I have as much respect for as GWB or Netanyahu, kicked your beloved Shah out of Iran with such misery. See how pathetic the Shah must have been that an Akhond kicked him off his throne.

Now, this was the Shah with all that 'ehemo tolop' , you can't be honestly expecting any thing more from his chubby boy, can you?

Mehrdad

What a wonderful and 'democratic' value!

RP has no support in Iran! Prove me wrong! Show me their faces, their addresses, their Iranian flags. Prove me wrong!

I don't want to unintentionally expose some classified information, which should be fairly outdated by now anyway. But for those who believe me, RP has a lot of support inside Iran. Not much outside. For those who don't believe me, I don't give a damn dear! Stick with 'human' and 'democratic' values of yours.

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The Pahlavis, all mullahs, and all public figures associated with the Green Movement  must disclose the source and the amount of their wealth/income.