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jamshid

i hated khomeini from the word go. i cannot stand this regime, and like most others here, left iran because i could not live there. so you don't need to write me a long list of how iranians were lied to by the likes of khomeini.

all i am saying to the crowd here, and you too since our arguments started long ago despite our basic agreement on many issues (and i remember you once getting totally offended because i said you agreed with something i had said - as if a nazi leper had asked for your hand in marriage...!) is that if we claim to love iran, we have to avoid undermining the national interests of iran, particularly against violent powers such as the us and israel. the political reforms that we wish for will come in due course. they may be too late for us - though i remain hopeful - but this is not about us. we can push the process up to a point, but i put the brakes on becoming an agent of foreign plots with violent tendencies. they never ever have the interests of iran at heart.

Peace

Q

what is really funny is that i did not even mention the fact that the iranian revolution was not just popular in the standard meaning of the term, it was one of the most popular revolutions throughout history, at least in terms of the level of active participation of the general population in demonstrations and strikes. let's see how they cope with that one... :)

as for the attacks, it's no problem. it's just the shock to their belief system that makes them behave like that. they will get over it after a good night's rest! i hope they will also try to set their emotions aside and look at the facts rather than regurgitating skewed interpretations.

Peace

Keep flagging me,

It only reaffirms what I already know: that you can't face the truth, so you try to silence my voice, as passionate as it is, and will always be. Don't you get it, even if you censor me, and JJ bans me, I'll be back (Sorry, JJ) -- but be sure, I will be back. You can't stop passionate speech, specially when it's not profane. 

Are my words cutting, yes. Are they profane? No Way!

So, go ahead, be petty and small. Censor me! I know, it's in your DNA, you can't help it -- that's why you people support the rapist fascists holding Iran hostage for 31 brutally dark years.

It's who you are.

بی خیال ایران.

بی خیال ایران. شما اینجا بی کارین؟ ایران هیچ امیدی بهش نیست، اصلا. مردمش تخمی و به فکر خودشون. شما یه سفر رفتین لس آنجلس و به کیریترین آدم بر خورد کردین، یادتون باشه که از بیشتر ایرانیا بهتره. حالا می خواین به مرد بگین که مثلا آزادی براشون خوبه، یارو می خنده می گه چند تومان؟ یا فکر می کنه کس خولین. باور ندارین؟ باور کنین.

Free, Vidlemose

Thank you and you are welcome! I think it is necessary to expose regime supporters' hypocrisy. Their half truths or outright lies combined with the khosh baavari of our people have always been their main weapons.

Free: These folks are not leftists. They are Islamists. There is a big difference! Each time they are called leftists, they even like it and gives them the more prestige too that they so badly lack.

They are "fundemantalist Islamists" in sheep's clothing of "progressive liberals". But progressive they are not, liberal they are not. "Fundemantalist" they indeed are. "Islamist" even more so.

دوستان ،

این بابا یک عرب شیتیله بگیر ملاها بیش نیست. دربلاگ فرد
بهش گفتم، این آیه از کجای قرآن است، بهم میگه من قرآن را از بهر نیستم!!

Q

It is you and your ilk that are filled with hate and despise and complexes. You are a bunch of warmongers and sanction loving idiots who can't stop bending over for second hand powers in the name of your despicable ideology. Your government has sold out the interests of Iranians for more than 30 years only to statiate and satisfy your deep and incurable complexes.

Now your heroes are on their way to start another war. By perroting the same garbage over and over again and accusing others of hate and warmongering, you are just doing your homework to prepare the people's psyche for the next stage which comes after your folks have started the war: Blaming it on others and then giving yourselves a green light for more imprisonments and executions, and a guaranteed survival for another 30 years.

Jamshid jan: Loved your

Jamshid jan: Loved your scathing rebuttle to this entity. You are the best.

Niloufar Parsi

Now do you still want to lean on the "popularity" of the revolution as the backbone of your arguments? Now do you see why thing were so oh, popular back then? Read your hero's lies once again, and see for yourself why people trusted in him, and why the revolution and the refrundum that ensued were popular.     >i

Here are some more lies from Khomeini that made everything so popular back then. More from Khomeini:         <i

در ایران اسلامی علما خودشان حکومت نخواهند کرد و فقط ناظر و هادی امور خواهند بود. خود من نیز هیچ مقام رهبری نخواهم داشت و از همان ابتدا به حجره تدریس خود در قم برخواهم گشت.
مصاحبه با خبرگزاری رویتر، نوفل لوشاتو، 5 آبان 1357

در جمهوری اسلامی کمونیستها هم در بیان عقید خود آزاد خواهند بود.
مصاحبه با سازمان عفو بین الملل، نوفل لوشاتو، 10 نوامبر 1978

در جمهوری اسلامی زنان در همه چیز حقوقی کاملاً مساوی با مردان خواهند بود.
مصاحبه با روزنامه گاردین، نوفل لوشاتو، 1 آبان 1357

در حکومت اسلامی رادیو، تلوزیون، و مطبوعات مطلقاً آزاد خواهند بود و دولت حق نظارت بر آنها را نخواهد داشت.
مصاحبه با روزنامه پیزا سره، نوفل لوشاتو، 2 نوامبر 1978

در منطق اینها آزادی یعنی به زندان کشیدن مخالفان، سانسور مطبوعات و اداره دستگاههی تبلیغاتی. در این منطق تمدن و ترقی یعنی تبعیت تمام شریان های مملکت از فر هنگ و اقتصاد و ارتش و دستگاه های قانونگذاری و قضایی و اجرایی از یک مرکز واحد. ما همه اینها را از بین خواهیم برد.
سخنرانی برای گروهی از دانشجویان یرانی در اروپا، نوفل لوشاتو، 8 آبان 1357

ما همه مظاهر تمدن را با آغوش باز قبول داریم.
سخنرانی برای گروهی از ایرانیان، نوفل لوشاتو، 19 مهر 1357

برای همه اقلیت های مذهبی آزادی بطور کامل خواهد بود و هر کس خواهد توانست اظهار عقیده خودش را بکند.
کنفرانس مطبوعاتی، نوفل لوشاتو، 9 نوامبر 1978

نه رغبت شخصی من و نه وضع مزاجی من اجازه نمی دهند که بعد از سقوط رژیم فعلی شخصاً نقشی در اداره امور مملکت داشته باشم.
مصاحبه با خبرگزاری اسوشیتد پرس، نوفل لوشاتو، 17 نوامبر 1975

دولت اسلامی ما یک دولت دموکراتیک به معنی واقعی خواهد بود. من در داخل ین حکومت هیچ فعالیتی برای خودم نخواهم داشت.
مصاحبه با تلوزیون NBC ، نوفل لوشاتو، 11 نوامبر 1978

من نمی خواهم رهبر جمهوری اسلامی آینده باشم. نمی خواهم حکومت یا قدرت را بدست بگیرم.
مصاحبه با تلوزیون اتریش، نوفل لوشاتو، 16 نوامبر 1978

پس از رفتن شاه من نه رییس جمهور خواهم شد، نه هیچ مقام رهبری دیگری را به عهده خواهم گرفت.
مصاحبه با روزنامه لموند، نوفل لوشاتو، 9 ژانویه 1979

Once again, I ask you Niloufar Paris, do you see why things were so popular back then? You cleverly forgot to mention the why.

For the last time, regarding the "popular" revolution

Ms. Niloufar Parsi, you are absolutely correct, the revolution and refrundum was totally popular. But here is why they were popular.

Khomeini's lies and false promises, aka Khomeini's deception of a nation, aka why things were "popular":       <i 

بشر در اظهار نظر خودش ازاد است (1)

مطبوعات در نشر همه حقایق و واقعیات ازادند.(2)

شکل حکومت ما جمهوری است، جمهوری به معنای این که متکی به ارای اکثریت است.(3)

اختیارات شاه را نخواهم داشت(4)

من هیچ سمت دولتی را نخوهم پذیرفت.(5)

من چنین چیزی نگفته ام که که روحانیون متکفل حکومت خواهند شد،روحانیون شغلشان چیز دیگری است.(6)

حکومت اسلامی ما اساس کار خود را بر بحث و مبارزه با هر نوع سانسور خواهد گذاشت.(7)

قانون این است،عقل این است.حقوق بشر این است که سرنوشت هر ادمی باید به دست خودش باشد.(8)

در حکومت ما اگر کسی از شخص اول مملکت شکایتی داشته باشد،پیش قاضی می رود و قاضی او را احضار می کند و او هم حاظر می شود.(9)

ما حکومتی را می خواهیم که برای این که یکدسته می گویند مرگ بر فلان کس،انها را نکشند.(10)

اقلیت های مذهبی به بهترین و جه از تمام حقوق خود برخوردار خواهند بود.(11)

زن ها در حکومت اسلامی ازادند و حقوق ان ها مثل حقوق مردها است.(12)

از یهودیانی که به اسراییل رفته اند دعوت می کنیم به وطن خود بازگردند،با ان ها کمال خوشرفتاری خواهد شد.(13)

اولین چیزی که برای انسان هست ازادی بیان است.(14)

منابع:

گفتگو با خبرنگاران در پاریس،11 ابان 1357 1-

2-گفتگو با خبرنگاران در پاریس،11 ابان 1357،صحیفه نور،جلد 4،ص 266

3-صحیفه نور،جلد2،صفحه 517

4-گفتگو با خبرنگاران در پاریس،24 دی 1357

5-گفتگو با خبرنگاران،12 آبان1357

6-صحیفه نور،جلد 3،صفحه 140-26 دی 1357 در پاریس

7-در مصاحبه با خبرگزاری رویترز،4 آبان 1357

8-مصاحبه با خبرگزاری ها،1/11/1357

9-مصاحبه با خبرگزاریها 17 آبان 1357 در پاریس

10-مصاحبه با خبرنگاران،12 آبان 1357 در پاریس

11-مصاحبه با روزنامه اشپیگل،16 آبان 1357 در پاریس

12-صحیفه نور،جلد 5،صفحه 70

13-سخنرانی اختصاصی ،1 دی ماه 1357 در پاریس

14-سخنرانی 5 آبان 1357 در پاریس

esmail....

I don't want my comment deleted, so I will bite my tongue.

But it is obvious that you are either seriously delusional or are on the payroll of the akhoonds.

what has seyed ali geda done for iran???? or khomeini for that matter???

these mullahs have killed tens of thousands of innocent young iranians- or anyone else who caused a threat to them

and what about the officers who were executed without trials on the BS charge of 'corruption on earth'??????

what about the iran-iraq war???? do you think saddam had the juevous to even look at iran the wrong way, so much as to attack it???

these are all questions which you can't answer,

and as far as ali geda's stolen fortune, it is well documented by your own ex-basijis who have exposed their bank accounts in europe and canada......

good luck to you in south lebanon when iran is free  

Freedom of Speech?

It's nice to see how much you people respect freedom of speech. It's typical, and I should've expected it from an IRI supporting crowd, trying to censor me. I really hope JJ doesn't fall for this scam -- if you come on here and spew lies and propaganda, expect to take a little heat for it.

You people have no shame.

And Q, it's not that we don't accept the revolution's popularity -- that's accepted (albeit it was fueled by half-truths and empty promises -- just ask the former revolutionary, Akbar Ganji, who documents how they "exaggerated" the Shah's misdeeds and minimized his successes in order to win the revolution). Nonetheles, I will give you the revolution's popularity, but what does that have to do with the situation in Iran TODAY, with Ahmad the monkey in power and the Revolutionary Guards raping, looting and murdering innocent people? Are we supposed to say, 'oh, it's okay, all this wretched wrong-doing, in the name of the revolution?'

Those times are gone, buddy! Your revolutionary credentials and successes are wholly irrelevant for the problems we face today. The Shah is history, and with him, the justification for the IRI's continuation is non-existant. What has the IRI done for Iran to earn their grip on power? Forget about the revolution (I know that's all you have to hang your hat on, and that's sad considering it was 31 years ago), but what about today?

Massive corruption, massive unemployment, massive inflation, massive brain-drain, where our best minds end up in Europe or America, massive heroin addiction (the most per capita in the world), massive rates of prostitution, including amongst married women, massive thievery and nepotism, massive ineptitude and mismanagement of the economy, massive graft. I can go on and on...

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR BELOVED REVOLUTION!

That was then, this is now! Besides the revolution, which has little steam left from 31 years ago, doesn't the morally bankrupt IRI have anything else to justify its wretched existance???

Capt ayahb: Thank you for

Capt ayahb: Thank you for being so kind. I share the same respect for you.  I defintely am not siding with Free.  I don't know much about him to  really have an opinion of him one way or another. However, I do think he has some valid points although his delivery style is very crude. At any rate, the emotions are high and sparks are flying when the credibility and motives of certain commenters takes percedent over their actual argument. It's really hard to seprate the argumetn for the person that makes the argumetn. I'm guilty as charged.

Mrs. vildemose/ Ms. Parsi

By now you should be well aware of the amount of respect I hold for you. I have always found your comments to be just and fair, despite our disagreement on many many issues.

It is disheartening to see you side with such a character as Mr. Free who has made his sole function of disrespecting and attacking everything and anyone who sees the world different from him.

I do hold same amount of respect for Ms. Parsi, not because we agree, which we more than often disagree, but because I have always found her to be respectful and courteous while making her point and standing her grounds. Which I should say has striking resemblance to your own style, only from a different angel.

Mrs. vildemose, you are lot bigger and lot more intelligent that siding with such characters just to prove a point. There are so much we can learn from you, due to the tremendous sacrifice you and your family have made for Iran. 

You should teach us how to love and you should teach us how to sacrifice for our country.

So please , if any of you ladies think I am being out of order, I will respectfully shut up and will not ever utter a word. But if you find my comment reasonable then you would humble me by thinking about it.
WE NEED EACH OTHER.

Most respectfully

-YT 

How could a "sell out" be

How could a "sell out" be "cool"??

where the hate comes from...

Dear niloufar, the present hate that you are experiencing from the usual angry hooligans is rooted in their clearly evident inability to accept reality. They are rather hostile to it. They can't even accept historical facts like the revolution's undiputable popularity, so you can imagine how increadibly twisted their conception of today's iran must be!

If you happen to remind these people of reality, you get attacked. Not just attacked but a hostile, angry and rather sad character assassination.... the clearest indication of deep psychological issues as you can see for yourself.

Free: don't waste your

Free: don't waste your time. She has an agenda and she is not interested in anything that does not corroborate her self-serving agenda. She does not give a hoot if Iran is perished in hopes of defeating bad "Imperialists". For her, it's only a small price to have her Marxist-Islamists Utopia materialized...

Pathetic and verbose...She reminds me of Soryay Ulrich and her ilk.

Freedom of choice

Base foundation of any democratic society is freedom of its citizens to chose, including but not limited to freedom of religions.

-YT 

AO

so you see a deal coming too, but your expectation is that it will be a sell-out. cool. let's see.

Here's my prediction Niloufar

If history, and IRI's past conduct, is any indication, the IRI will make a lot of noise...I mean a LOT.  It will push the envelope as much as it can, and will milk this whole nuclear issue for all its worth for propaganda purposes.  It will also get other sanctions lodged against it.  Bear in mind that all of the aforementioned will be at the expense and misery of the Iranian people, while the IRI and IRGC mafia will get richer and richer.  At the end of the day, however, and when there is a threat to its survival, it will 'drink the poison", back down and sell the interests of the Iranian people down the river...as it has done many, many times.  

That's my prediction. 

Dear Free: Allawi is not a

Dear Free: Allawi is not a Sunni. He is a Shiitte. Nontheless, he hates the IRI. Also, I think The Sadrist though shia are extremely anti-Iran and super nationalists though they might have made a tactical alliance with the IRI for now...

In a guest opinion piece for Informed Comment, Christopher Anzalone asks if the Reported Killings of the Islamic State of Iraq’s two senior Leaders spell the end of the Self-styled Jihadi State.

Abu ‘Umar al-Baghdadi, the head of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), and Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, the head of al-Qa ‘ida in the Land of the Two Rivers/Iraq (AQI), were both reportedly killed early in the morning Sunday (April 18) in battle with U.S. and Iraqi security forces 10 kilometers southwest of Tikrit. The killings were confirmed on Monday by General Ray Odierno, the commander of U.S. military forces in Iraq, in a press release , and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki held up photographs said to be of the two before and after death at a press conferece (warning: graphic ).

free

you kiss your mother with that foul mouth kid?

what is the problem with your comprehension? there was a plebiscite. whatever was on that paper, people went and voted it in. there was something in there that they believe in.

one of the most elementary requirements for 'helping' any country is a basic and honest understanding of its history. you have chosen to deny it instead.

Further...

The house Islamic Marxist writes, "i doubt you will get it, but the reason for the situation is this: everything went wrong in iraq. a strong central state with pro-american leanings did not emerge, and at the same time the US is publicly committed to a withdrawal of the bulk of her forces from iraq within 4 months from now."

How you lefties love to fool yourselves! Everything in Iraq DID NOT -- DID NOT!!! -- go wrong! Saddam Hussein is out! So are his evil sons! A nascient democratic system is emerging! People are voting in Iraq in a FAR MORE democratic system that you could ever dream of in the "Islamic Republic." There's hope in Iraq today! The surge WORKED! The violence is down, massively down! And whatever violence there is in Iraq, it's being artificially fueled by the IRI!

"meanwhile, and despite all the noise to the contrary, the shia won the majority in iraq's elections, and are close to forming a coalition including with the kurds as well as some sunnis. iran's influence is set to grow in the region. it has all gone against american wishful thinking."

Are you sure you're not deaf and blind? Alawi, an anti-Iran SUNNI just won the elections -- I know they're doing a recount, but all indications are that he will succeed Maliki -- and Alawi is no friend of the IRI! He's far more pro-American than Maliki, and far more anti-IRI than Maliki. The IRI is the one that should be worried, sandwiched between two emerging democracies.

Listen, I know you can't help your UBER OGHDEH, but America still has troops in Germany, Japan, Korea, and it will have troops in Iraq for decades to come. Don't believe into all the jibberish you read on DailyKos and Huffington Post. America is still the most powerful country in the world -- BY FAR! -- and will be so for the next 50 years at the very least -- the ONLY SUPER-POWER IN THE WORLD! Now, try to control your OGHDEH and JEALOUSY!  I know that hurts you deeply, but them's the facts. Now go weep yourself to sleep.

AO

let us see how it all develops. i have put it in black and white. give me your version of the likely outcome of the current situation.

after that, time will tell.

Folks, sample Niloufar Parsi's depravity...

There's so much wrong with her previous post, but for now, let's just consider the most depraved sample in her distorted, whacked, pitiful, slanted, and biased world-view, a view only shared by morally bankrupt leftists who have a serious brain malady, which to this date has no known cure. Here's what she writes (and mind you earlier she wrote, "I'm no regime supporter" -- I'm still laughing from that one) --

"take a look at iran for a start with Open eyes and ears: Iran has an Islamic regime that came about through a Popular revolution. people Voted for this system in a referendum."

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? The "people voted for this system in a referendum?" How depraved can you be to bring up what happened under chaotic circumstances 31 years ago? First of all, the only choices on the referendum were: YES or NO to an Islamic Republic. There were no other options provided! Secondly, and far more importantly, that was 31 years ago, you bankrupt lefty, the Hezbos took advantage of the revolutionary fervor to adopt their twisted system, and the people, who were suckered into believing all of the MASSIVE lies (free gas, free water, free electricity, free bus fare, women's rights, minority rights, share of the oil profits, Ghotbzadeh even assured democratic elections in early 1979!!!, etc.) -- the masses, specially the middle-class, were MASSIVELY FOOLED into giving their vote for this bankrupt system!

Are you freaking kidding me?! 

Listen clear, lefty: Only a shameless bankrupt propagandist would bring up that dubious referendum from 31 years ago! Iran was a different place then! The majority of the population in Tehran (80%) were first and second generation villagers (dahatis). They got fooled! DO YOU HEAR ME?!!! THEY GOT SUCKERED BY MONUMENTAL LIES AND EMPTY PROMISES!!!

And only a depraved bankrupt soul would bring up the 1979 referendum as a justification for the present system in Iran under the current circumstances! You have no shame, lady/fella!

NONE!

Here you go with the wish list again Niloufar

"iran has her own agenda regarding russia, and it differs with your american version in that it aims for a reduction in russian influence while winning greater influence for iran, not just for america. and iran is succeeding in using her influence with both russia and china to hold the americans back. it is a rational alliance. and is likely to result in a new agreement between iran and america with favourble terms for both countries. "

What?!!!!  China will never sell out the U.S. over Iran.  The U.S., with its endless thirst for China's manufacturing base,  is the biggest contributing factor to the growth of China's economy.  At the same time, China has reduced its oil purchases from Iran by 40%.  What planet do you live on?

Neither Russia and China will gain anything from alienating the U.S.  Again, the old Bolshevik power struggle days are over.  The new game is money and economic advantage, which both China and Russia are set to lose if they draw a line in the sand against the U.S.  The IRI has nothing to offer them in those terms.  this is not the 1950's and 1960's that the USSR could drive its economy into the ground just so that it could prop up some Marxist government in South America.  Times have changed.  Step out of your bubble.    

AO

Free

Why are you asking such questions?
It's not obvious to you that Aamerikaa va esraa'il are responsible for all the crimes committed in Iran in the past 30yrs?!

Are you seriously trying to put the blame on islamists and on these terrorist hezbollahis?!!
Man, you're racist or something?
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!

And, stop 'bad-mouthing'(!) these new pimps of the satanic republic if you want them to "debate" you...

faghat dar khat-e peyro-e emaam; 
kill all those who dare oppose me.  -gooz'ollah khomeini

I wont answer because its a

I wont answer because its a completely ridiculous and illiterate post.

If you read the comment which you so rushingly replied too you would see I asked you to provide me credible sources NOT assumptions , you provided me assumptions, I dont answer to hear say.

another reason I wont answer is because you are a foul mouth low life rascist . Grow some manners if you expect me to debate you.

The former Marxist traitor who

goes by "Niloufar Parsi" -- I will get to you soon, too much nonsense in your previous post and will take too much time, but for now...

ESMAIL -- why didn't you have an answer to my 10:13 pm post? Read and answer, and if you don't answer, I will deduce that you have no answer, which shits on everything you've been blowing out of your rear-end on this blog for a couple of days.