Ahmadinejad's excessive mud slinging

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Jaleho
by Jaleho
15-Jul-2009
 

For the record, let me first reiterate that I found the presidential debates preceding the Iranian election to be a most fruitful phase in Iran's democracy; a fantastic evolutionary phase of the Islamic Revolution of Iran. It was one of the most important factors which brought up a historic number of Iranians into their country's political arena, which resulted in one of the most impressive mass participations in the election.  I believe that it was high time that the well kept secrets of factions and clerical factionalism following the revolution, be put on the table for everyone to discuss in an open and healthy manner for years to come. However, the constructive criticism mixed with political opportunism, also leads to exaggerated accusations, mud slinging, and hasty slanders that once the barriers are opened suddenly, it can wash out good and bad together in a massive ensuing and uncontrollable flood. 
 
The pent up legitimate frustration of Iranian youth aside; the high jacking of that frustration by foreign media's massive propaganda and the neo-con dream to convert the youth revolt to a "color revolution" ; the dreams of Iranian expats and Shahis who are trying to ride on the back of Iranian youth for their own agenda, and the faction fighting among Iranian clerics and groups within IRG supporting different factions aside.... there is a REAL price that Ahmadinejad will pay for his excessive "lajan parakani" during the presidential debates which is partly reflected in the mass demonstrations. He is partly guilty of the consequences of the civil unrest because of his unchecked accusations, slanders and uncivil debate.
 
Ebrahim Nabavi is writing an article today //iranian.com/main/2009/jul-19  in which he "advises" Rafsanjani in rejecting Ahmadinejad as the legitimate president in the upcoming Friday prayers!! While I believe that Mr. Nabavi better stick to being a jester which he can be good at instead of an advisor to Rafsanjani, I share with him the enthusiasm of Rafsanjani's upcoming chance to defend himself. Unlike Mr. Nabavi, I believe that Rafsanjani is more patriotic and less self-absorbed to attempt a coup in order to defeat the collective wish of Iranian people who elected Ahmadinejad with a large margin. Rafsanjani has devoted his entire life to revolution and Iranian cause, he won't betray Iran to satisfy the silly agenda of people like Mr. Nabavi!
 
I hope that the coming Friday prayers, an event that became one of the pillars of strength of Islamic Revolution and the symbol of the mass presence and vigilance, primarily spearheaded by none other than Heshemi himself, would teach a lesson of greatness and tactfulness to Mr. Ahmadinejad


After all, Mr. Rafsanjani has been an important leader of the revolution, and has been on the helm of the the Iranian ship in the most turbulent of the storms facing Iran. His clever leadership has kept Iran from drowning in a sea of international assaults against our country. Rafsanjani was a leader created by a historical moment which is hard to duplicate. Mr. Ahmadinejad is better remember that although he himself has risen from the womb of Iranian masses, and has served his country honestly and to his best in every position that he held, yet he won't be able to fill the footsteps of Rafsanjani, even if he were to live twice!  

I am sure that Hashemi Rafsanjani will be able to repudiate the mud thrown at him, and will defend his monumental legacy while he teaches Ahmadinejad once more some lessons in civility and the true revolutionary spirit.

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jamshid

Re: Manouchehr

by jamshid on

You are blaming the West for the Iran-Iraq war. I think we should not exaggerate the West's power and its ability to do as it wishes. It simply isn't the case.

We have to look at this from another angle and ask ourselves what was "our" role in this war?

Once Khomeini grabbed the power, overconfident with his incredible success in toppling the Shah, he had Iraq next in his menu. We must not forget that it was him who began to agitate The Shias in Iraq against Saddam. Saddam was a dangerous (and stupid) man to play such games with.

This was no reason for this animal to attack Iran. But he used this as an excuse to invade Iran.

I am certain the West welcomed such war and rubbed his hands together thinking of all the profits it can make. But ultimately, it was Khomeini and Saddam's idiocy and greed for dominiation that set the stage for the West to profit on Iranian and Iraqi blood.

We have to accept responsibility for our own acts before criticizing the West. We had two irresponsible leaders in Iran and in Iraq, one began the war and the other continued it.

In 1982, Saddam offered a peace plan in which Iran would be compensated with Kuwaiti and Saudi money. Khomeini did not accept it. It was not the West that commanded the war to continue. It was Khomeini who wanted to continue it.

We can write a book as to why he wanted to continue the war. Personally, I think he was overconfident and also he was committed to his ideology which drove him to to free the Iraqi Shias from Saddam's brutality and dominion.

But, it was HIM who did not accept the peace. Had he accepted it,  the war would have ended since Saddam was eager to end it too. And there was NOTHING the West could have done.

It was in 1982 that I quit the service and later had to escape from Iran, specifically because I felt it was no longer a war to defend Iran, it was a war between Khomeini's ideology and Saddam's greed for power and the West profiting on innocent blood.

The West financially profited from this war and from the bloodshed. But so did Brazil, China, India and even Turkey and Israel and many other countries. They all shared the profit of selling arms to both sides.

But ultimately, it was the irresponsible Iranian and the Iraqi leaderships that were to be blamed for setting the stage for the West and others to profit from the blood of Iranian and Iraqis.

You also wrote about Cuba being independent. It is. But at what cost? Cuba has been a poor country for 50 years despite the potentials this country had. South Korea may not be as independent as Cuba, but look at how better the quality of life is among South Koreans.

There is a story about a member of the parliament during Mossadegh's tenure as prime minister. He always voted against anything Mossadegh wanted to pass in the majles, even when it was obvious that it was beneficiary to everyone.

One day, Mossadegh asked this guy to come to his office and explain. His reply:

"man in chizaa saram nemisheh. man hamisheh mokhaalefam!"

translation: "I don't care what you think, I am always against everything!"

Later it was discovered that this man who was elected by the population of a poor area of Iran and who did not have much education sincerely thought and believed that it is a parliament member's job to always vote against the goverment!

I don't know how true this story is, but it could describe the same thing about independence which would be something like, "man in chizaa saram nemisheh! man faghat esteghlaal mikhaam!"

We all want independence, but we live in a world that true independence is achievable only though isolation. This is happening in Syria, North Korea and Cuba. Put that in contrast with South Korea, Turkey and Argentine, countries that are not truely independent, but its people live not just better, but much better.

We have to be more realistice about today's world affairs. Besides what makes you think that Iran is independent? Iran is so much depended on Russia and China (and India for refined oil) that it has become one of the MOST depended countries of the world despite its vast human and natural resources. It is so bad that it reminds me of the Ghajar period.

In fact, The IRI is so depended on the said countries that it has become a "nokar". Only a nokar would buy 50s technology at the price of 21st century technology. Only a nokar would sell oil to India at $50 a barrel, and import it back in a refined form at a higher price. Only a nokar would give away Iran's rights to Caspian sea to appease its master.


rosie is roxy is roshan

Excessive mudslinging! Dust and dirt!

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Just where this blog belonged the whole time.

 

Ciao ciao.


ex programmer craig

ID

by ex programmer craig on


I can do all that?! Cool!  Please allow me to pat myself on the back and then add:

I notice you chose to go with a sarcastic distraction, rather than a denial. I didn't even realize it was you, the first time it happened. I didn't realize it was you until I came back several months later, and came upon some quite contentious threads where several other people were accusing you fo doing the exact same thing to them that had been done to me. It had been you that I was arguing with, in a quite absuive thread in which people (including you) were making bigotted comments about me. You were the most aggressive, in that thread. In that thread, you had made a comment about how you had just gotten rid of somebody else and now you were having to deal with me. And at about that time my comments started vanishing. Though the abusive comments I had been replying to, remained. 

The one common denominator every time my comments started getting deleted is YOU, IRANdokht. And my account got deleted when I was arguing in a post by Niloufar Parsi. Who I later found out is a good "friend" of yours. 

Why don't you deny it? Why didn't you deny it when other people made the same accusations against you? 


anyone who does not take responsibility for the crap that he writes
which gets him deleted...

So, when I get censored, it is my fault for having opinions I am not supposed to have? It is my fault for saying things you don't agree with? I*deserve* to be censored?

My. What a "liberal" you are. Yes, I can see that you have nothing in common with the machinery of Islamic Republic at all. No, not in any way. 


IRANdokht

Pranoia galore

by IRANdokht on

"Are you kidding? She declared Jihad on me a couple of years ago, and seems to have made it a personal mission of hers to drive me off this website. She's gone so far as to delete my account here (which is why I'm "ex" programmer craig now) after mass-deletion of my comments didn't send me packing."

I can do all that?! Cool!  Please allow me to pat myself on the back and then add:

anyone who does not take responsibility for the crap that he writes which gets him deleted from a website and tries to blame it on a third person or insinuate that there was something else going on, does not deserve to be taken seriously nor responded to.

IRANdokht


IRANdokht

it's not personal Rosie, don't you get it?

by IRANdokht on

I don't have to hate someone because they believe the green movement is useless or misguided or whatever. If I wanted to take that personally I would have lost many of my friends who are actually tagging along the greens only to see the monarchy come back or win back their leftist revolution of 79.

I don't have to agree with their political views in order to address them politely and not insult them personally. I agree with some people some of the time and disagree with some people most of the time, it doesn't make a bit of a difference. I will be polite to people who have shown me respect and reason. 

others on the other hand, I have to have my arm twisted in order to respond to, like now... I am appalled at the insults you throw around during your constant meddling and chatter. I'd rather stay away from you and not respond to you because it's hard for me to be courteous to low-class individuals that I have no respect for. It's not personal, it's a reaction to the way people treat others, and in my case how they have treated me. If someone is nice and polite and open to discussion without attacks and insults then so am I. 

Unlike you and a few others on this site who take everything to a very personal/emotional level, Jaleh has not shown hate, she's always been in minority here and held her own against all the attacks.

She has not written slanderous blogs about people of this site without any proof or evidence of their wrongdoings, you have. She has not dragged people's names in the mud either but you have. She has not wrongly accused anyone of having "extra" powers and deleting her comments, she doesn't lead or encourage ganging up on people either, but you have! Jaleh doesn't make things personal unless she gets attacked viciously and repeatedly and she has been known to defend herself with a very sharp tongue, but still, I don't remember her using words that would cause her comments to be deleted, but you do.

So for someone who has the choice of who she wants to communicate with and learn about, sorry Rosie, you won't do, even if you do wear green and pick Delara's picture as your avatar. 

Why is it so hard to grasp?  

IRANdokht


Mola Nasredeen

Rosie,

by Mola Nasredeen on

Go see a therapist, In case you do it's not working. Change him.


Mola Nasredeen

Ex PC,

by Mola Nasredeen on

Go get a job, HP is hiring


ex programmer craig

Jaleho

by ex programmer craig on

...ourselves waaaay too seriously thinking that IranDokht bothered to have a coup d'etat all about YOU!!

Are you kidding? She declared Jihad on me a couple of years ago, and seems to have made it a personal mission of hers to drive me off this website. She's gone so far as to delete my account here (which is why I'm "ex" programmer craig now) after mass-deletion of my comments didn't send me packing. She's a petty and vindictive person, and I think it's very apppropriate that she has somebody like you defending her. Even if I didn't have personal experience with the dark side of her personality. I would have a pretty good idea what kind of person she really is behind that smoke screen she tries to heep up, just based on the characters she asssociates with on this website.

Since you seem very curious, her messgae was basically about Iranian
events of Friday.

I'm not curious what she said in Farsi. She's said quite vicious things to me in English. It just seems appropriate to highlight yet another one of her personality defects, in that she is the type of person who would enjoy standing right next to somebody and trashing them to her friends in a language she knows they don't understand.

That's not something decent people do. Is it? Oh, wait. You don't actually know any decent people, do you? 

Since she has completely opposite opinion to mine..

Right. She tries the old "good cop, bad cop" game. I'm sure that some people fall for it. JJ even seems to fall for it. JJ seems almost impossibly naive, considering those parts of his background he has chosen to share with us. Maybe his desire to see nothing but the best in women has blinded him to the truth about some of the females on this blog. I have to admit I have quite a soft spot for women too, so I can relate to him on that one. That's why I still have trouble believing you are a woman. You see, in my imagination women are kind, gentle and caring. It is the men who are supposed to be cunning, ruthless and cruel. I really hate it when somebody like you shows up and turns that upside down for me.

 


rosie is roxy is roshan

Jaleho, Irandokht,

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Well, Jaleho, you said and I told you I was going to link it as appropriate so here it is. ID here is what Jaleho told me about how she really feels (not thinks, mind you, FEELS) about the people in the Green Movement:

//iranian.com/main/comment/reply/71521/195221

And the most ironic thing of all ID is that she said it the exact day after you changed your avatar to green. I swear to god it's true.

I've been trying to tell you in so many ways for so very long..about the 'h' word. .the three-syllable one.  You know how they say the road to hell is paved iwth good intentions? 

Well it's also paved with bad taarof.

 

Sorry to disappoint you about your 'friend'.

_______________

So what about it, ID, did she just make you a liiiittle...nauseous? Because if she didn't...then...all is lost.

PS Note the date. July 9. The day of the Thursday protests last week.


rosie is roxy is roshan

'Nauseousness' and healing wounds: / Hamid

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I think the majority (by numbers not frequency of posting) on this thrfead could concur with the following statement, and almost all as the latter part t as it applies to the authoress and her supporters on this thread:

A colonised mind is a colonised mind whether it is occupied by the European right or by the cliché-ridden left: it is an occupied territory, devoid of detail, devoid of substance, devoid of love, devoid of a caring intellect. It smells of ageing mothballs, and it is nauseating

Now this author's language is more polite than mine has been with the authoress and her...humped friend...here of late..but that is because the author when writing the article was not dealing with a specific individual's loathesome toxicity but rather was referring in abstract to a group..a group I call 'Fascists in petticoats'. Please feel free to disseminate the phrase.

But the key word here here that unites is:..nauseating.

And this a wonderful place to begin because the author of the above statement is none other than Hamid Dabashi whose piece currently appears on our homepage.

Dr. Dabashi has been felt by many to be a faaaaar left dogmatic pedant but I think the current seismic convulsions within Iran have altered many of our previous world views, closing us off to some former 'allies' while opening us up to others whom we previously felt we had nothing in common with.

I met Hamid three years ago and he was asking how to find a new language for the left to communicate beter with others, and we started that conversation but did not get into contact again unfortunately. I had been thinking about doing it and now I am going to. Of course mind you a new language also implies a changed world view. I don't believe he realized it at the time but it's true.

So..what I wanted to say with all this is that the most wonderful thing that I've seen HERE since the MURDERS at the protests has been the beginning of what I'd call a center-left coalition (by "Left" I mean authentic new Left, as I would consider myself as opposed to the Fascists in petticoats pseudo-left). People have discovered that as long as the common goal is the steady and hopefully peaceful transition of Iran into a true parliamentary democracy we are all on the same side. (The authoress may claim this to be her stance but a totalitarian personality is incapable of democracy regardless of what rhetoric they spew).

That's what we need to get. To be open to and open up new lines of communication with people who have common ground.

The common ground is that (WHOEVER 'won' the 'election') this Regime is NAUSEATING. The people who continue to apologize for it are NAUSEATING.

That's a fine beginning. .

I am sorry I have been so brutally...blunt shall we say..with certain people of late. It's because I'm goddam..

nauseated.

Anyone on the center willing to try to find common ground with Hamid? So he could find more with you?A coalition is necessary to heal the wounds. And there won't be a free Iran without one, for sure.

____________

At that meeting where I met Hamid, he made the most wonderful statement, I've paraphrased it here so many times. He said:

Islam is obsessed with covering the female body and the West is obsessed with uncovering it. And I wish they would both just leave it alone.

Anybody find this an appealing place to start to find common ground?

______________________

What about you Craig? Or you..Bijan?

______________________

Again, so sorry but a totalitarian mind cannot do that regardless of what rhetoric it spews until such time as it recognizes that it is the cuase of the nauseousness of which that same author spoke..

_______________________

NAUSEOUSNESS NAUSEOUSNESS! OUR COMMON NUSEOUSNESS MIGHT JUST TURN OUT TO BE THE CURE!


Onlyiran

Shame on those

by Onlyiran on

who want to minimize the uprising of the Iranian people against injustice and tyranny and characterize it as some yuppy expression of the North Tehrani youth who want to be free to hold hands with their girlfriends / boyfriends without being harassed.  Shame on those who perpetuate this IRI propaganda line.  Just look at the faces in this demonstration from today:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FDIUB4yUuQ  

There are young, old, women with chadors, etc.  This is a popular uprising that transcends class, gender and age.  This is peoples’ cry for justice and basic human dignity that they have been denied for the past thirty years by a bunch of machine gun totting thieves and hoodlums which constitute the IRI.

Shame on this writer for being such an unabashed supporter of this criminal regime, and for being a propagandist for a bunch of murderers with Iranian blood on their hands.   

Shame on this writer for disrespecting the memory and sacrifices of Neda, Sohrab and countless other nameless victims of this band of murderers.

And finally, shame on all anti-Iranian cowards who support the garbage that is being spewed by this writer on this and other threads.           


capt_ayhab

ignorance is a bliss

by capt_ayhab on

Writer notes[ Whe Shah was in power, I wouldn't support his barbaric acts, neither do I support barbaric acts of some US governments. US has GREATNESS in its history and many of its institutions, so does IRI) ]

But the writer is more than willing  to support and endorse barbaric actions of IR, particularly the Ahmadinejad's in silencing, beating, killing, imprisoning, raping, shooting, torturing, kidnapping and hanging, of the peaceful demonstrators. According to her, Shah bad, US worse, Ahmadinejad and Khamenie good.

How low can some stoop in their stupidity and ignorance, it must be a bliss !

-YT 


rosie is roxy is roshan

what a goddam drag..

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

to have to periodically have to come back and discredit you.

like i said you're dangerous so it must be done.

however you are also a drag.

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhh

//iranian.com/main/comment/reply/72403/197314

 

 


Bijan A M

Come on Mr. Jaleho

by Bijan A M on

You can’t be serious calling yourself a realist and advocating elimination of a state or at best promoting a single state solution in the ME conflict. I don’t intend to divert from the topic of your blog and turn this to the other never-ending debate.

When I referred to colonial era, I meant you think that colonialism is still alive and well whereas it has been dead for quite sometime. The current world order has no room for colonialism of the past.

Back to the subject of your blog, i.e. deception of public by criticizing your own candidate…

You despise religion but proudly declare yourself as PRO IRI…how is that possible? Don’t you see the contradiction? How can you support sharia law and velayate vaghih and despise religion? Is this your way of saying you are a nationalist? If not, then what?

You say you are a “Humanist”.  What has that got to do with a nation’s governing philosophy? Every living soul on this planet is a humanist, AhmadiNejad is a humanist, Khamenei is and even Hitler was a humanist. All in their own right. Everyone thinks they are observing Human Rights within their own framework of what those rights are.

You say: 

“….my adopted beloved country, the US of A!! With the massive powerful braisnwashing that Americans are exposed to from childhood, they need a reminder of TRUTH far more than Iranians would. It would be a crime to let people like American wife and programmer Craig, Bush and Richard Perle roam around America unchecked, won't you say? They'll ruin this country, and by the sheer power and its political and military influence, that would drag a good chuck of the world with it, Iran included”

Who the hell do you think you are to claim ownership of the TRUTH? American’s are brainwashed and you are not? How come it wouldn’t be a crime for people like you roaming around America unchecked? What you have demonstrated so far in terms of your social democratic belief and nationalistic tendencies would make you prime candidate to be the right hand of Hitler, like your idol AhmadiNejad.

If I was a betting man, I would bet everything that you were born to an extremely religious parents (more than likely Jewish). Son, you are walking the wrong trail….snap out of it. IRI is an anti human regime in any way you look at it. Forget about who won and who lost the so called election. The problem is much more deeper than that.

Have a great day in your beloved US of A!!


Onlyiran

Capt_Ayhab

by Onlyiran on

I think that both are equally offensive.


Jaleho

programmer Craig and Rosie, you took

by Jaleho on

yourselves waaaay too seriously thinking that IranDokht bothered to have a coup d'etat all about YOU!!

Since you seem very curious, her messgae was basically about Iranian events of Friday. Since she has completely opposite opinion to mine about the characters that were to appear in this event, in particular Mr. Rafsanjani, she made an introuduction of how she feels about Rafsanjani, velyat Faghih, and this entire election. She added that although she's in complete disagreement with me about Iranian politics, but she finds it not right that every time I write a blog that people disgree with, they bash me personally instead of debating the issues. She then wrote that she basically does read my blogs and Iranian.com in general because as an Iranian the news about Iranian events is one of her priorities, naturally. She said that she's interested to know why an Iranian who she find educated and non-religious might be supporting the regime, this election, etc. and that's why she reads my blogs, since  some American point of views similar to Craig's she gets from FOX anyway, and some other American views (I guess she might have meant Rosie here) she does get similar point of view from CNN. Whereas for a purely Iranian point of view which many in Iran might adhere to, and in partiuclar the government affiliated views, my ideas is more representative, fulfilling her desire to know a totality of opinions on Iranian matters. She then wrote that she believes this Friday either way is going to be an important day for many Iranians.

As you see, you took yourselves too importantly ;-)  


Mardom Mazloom

Thanks Rosie

by Mardom Mazloom on

I tried, but google has to make some progress in Persian-English translation. No doubt that they would in the future.
That's the translation of my text using google with some modifications:
------------
In a country where religion is not separated from politics, Saborjyan (the only Jewish in the planet who's killing himself for Mahdi) becomes its president, Ali chooleh becomes its sultan, there are 70 millions captives who are daily raped, murdered etc. and every black is said to be white and vice versa.

There is a Verse in Koran:

 اِنْاخَلَقْنااِلاَحْمَدي نِزادْ سَهْوَا"وَ اِنْا لَخْلَقْهُ لِنْادِميْن

We created Ahmadinejad and we are really sorry about that -- Chapter: Repentance, Verse: 1

Take this and remove from this room

 


rosie is roxy is roshan

M & M: google Persian translator

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

(waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait til later...believe it or not, it's not working for me right now..but if you want you can just google "google translator" and see if you can do the NEW one I didn't use yourself..lol)

___________________________-

 

I'd rather explain it to you so you can try it yourself, because you'll proably need it at some point in the future. or someone you know willl, so... 

Just google these two words:

google translation

(I choose this because it's easier than memorizing the URL). Now choose the FIRST hit, that's the one I used.:

and then choose Persian...

and then it will give you three simple options for how to do the translation. I chose copy/paste because I'm good at it. 

You have to have an open Word document while you follow the instructions, of course. 

Try it and if you have any probems, please feel free to tell me here.


khaleh mosheh

Even the premise of this blog stinks

by khaleh mosheh on

'excessive mud slinging?'

Ahmadinejad can rig elections, maim and torture but cant mud sling 'ecessively'?

Personally I like to call a piglet a piglet. 


Mardom Mazloom

Jom'eh July the 17th -- Hal konid

by Mardom Mazloom on



Mardom Mazloom

Rosie

by Mardom Mazloom on

Would you please translate what I wrote earlier with the translator you have? I can't find the translator under the google stuff and I didn't mean to insult Craig nor Jaleho either ...

Vocabulary: Malijak = A backward pro-antari person, Malijakistan = an occupied territory by Malijaks, Saborjian = Mahmood's real jewish name, Ali Chooleh = Sultan Khamenei,   



rosie is roxy is roshan

del

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

 del for now


rosie is roxy is roshan

Well..

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

anyway.

So maybe then if you want to do something more helpful at this time than engaging with the Entity, you might want to stop being such a 'smart ass' and contact foaad@iranian.com and really talk to him with your ideas. He's very receptive and responsible.

Whatever you may think about the direction the site's taken, one thing you have to admit: if I'm going to be doing these google translations having them properly formatted would be...helpful....at least..a tiny bit..helpful...a small drop of help in the universe...

lol

ps I have to admit, I did slip in a little extra emphasis on the independent decision-making capability of a well-trained military person in my last post for reasons that should be beknownst to you and I....lol again


ex programmer craig

hmmm...when you suggested

by ex programmer craig on

hmmm...when you suggested that about the Java, did you send it through
the contact us, tech issues, or did you just send a regular e-mail to
j. or click on contact us, general? Do you remember?

I made a smart ass comment! Did you forget who you are talking to!? :p

I still think people who've served in the military should know how to teach passive resistance better than anyone... 

Rosie, I really don't think I have any good advice for Iranians about how to deal with Iranian militias and Iranian military. I'm sure they have a much better idea about how best to do that than I do. It's not that I wouldn't want to help, it's just that I think anything I would advise might be counter-productive.

 


rosie is roxy is roshan

Oh, sorry, we cross-posted..

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

hmmm...when you suggested that about the Java, did you send it through the contact us, tech issues, or did you just send a regular e-mail to j. or click on contact us, general? Do you remember?


rosie is roxy is roshan

Well anyway, Craig,

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I still think people who've served in the military should know how to teach passive resistance better than anyone...

it requires very clear spontaneous independent decision-making under violent circumstances...and military people know those circumstances better than anyone...and the good ones know how to make those decisions...

so you could pass some of that knowledge on to the kids...

(and maybe burn some karma while you're at it, Corporal Fax Programmer...lol )

lol

 


ex programmer craig

Rosie

by ex programmer craig on

Hey, wow! The translated google gibberish picks up the codes from the
original Persian and affect the formatting here. I wonder how it
happens? Maybe CNN Craig could explain it

I think it is this edit control. I suggested to JJ a couple weeks ago when it happened to me that he should hire a better Java programmer! Not that I'm sure that's the problem, because I'm not a Java programmer. But this control seems to switch to Farsi formatting if it detects even a single word of Farsi in the comment.


ex programmer craig

lol

by ex programmer craig on

At least she didn't delete my account, this time.

Thanks for the heads-up and the defense, those who cared. I would have never even known she was talking about me. IRANdokht, you know damn good and well how rude and insulting what you just did, is. Everyone knows that, no matter where in the world they live. Even my ex-wife's Cantonese relatives who just arrived from China always made sure to ask her to translate for me whenever I came up in the conversation. It's common courtesy that humans have understood since language was first invented, which humans understand instinctively. But not you. You probably think you are being clever and cute, right?

 


Jaleho

Mr. Bijan.

by Jaleho on

"I for sure know that you have communist tendencies, but you are not MKO. "( check) You have never demonstrated strong religious opinions one way or the other. (check, but I despise religion immensly) I believe you are for democracy but with a tremendously more passion you are against the west. (OK) You continue to live in the colonial era (NO, Bijan, YOU DO by your support of Israel. I am the opposite by claiming that Israel as a zionist state will die because we are passed the colonial era) and in your feeble mind are convinced that we need someone with AhmadiNejad’s balls, but with better political etiquette to stand to the west (NO, his present etiquette towards west is PERFECT, I want him to be more polite to polite Iranians) and assert himself as the sole power in the Middle East. (NO, that's Samsam! I just want Iran wouldn't be prevented reaching its potential because the west wants to keep Israel as the SOLE bulldog in the region)

I don’t quite know where your allegiances lie.(humanity) Are you a US citizen?(double citizen: US and Iran) If so, you are a traitor for promoting IRI’s Nuclear weapons ambitions. A regime that has openly declared its willingness to destroy your country’s interests. (wrong. Iran and the US have great common interest and I am all for them. Whe Shah was in power, I wouldn't support his barbaric acts, neither do I support barbaric acts of some US governments. US has GREATNESS in its history and many of its institutions, so does IRI)

If your allegiance lies with IRI with the ultimate goal of peaceful transformation of a ruthless theocracy to an eventual “Secular Democracy” (check), then you must be missing a few brain cells. (No, I am just realistic)

And finally, if you claim to be as intelligent and well read as  Dr. Sahimi  (don't know him, I read one article that I disagreed with)and are one of his followers(don't consider myself follower of anyone) that claim to be against the IRI (I am PRO-IRI), and the only thing you can do is to condemn and criticize west without offering any clear and constructive alternative, (evolution of the revolution) then you will be stumped by the 13 million (according to your own stats) who think differently. (NO,in a democracy like Iran, the 24 million who voted for Ahmadinejad carry more weight than 13 million who voted for Mousavi. The only tricky thing is that most of those 13 million are concentrated in Tehran, and that makes things dangerous in Tehran, and makes Tehranis think that they actually WON!)

Enough of defending this charade (called election) and deceiving the public by criticizing the fake winner. When are you going to develop some integrity?     (I truly DO believe that Iran's election was a monumental election, with a huge and great turnout and as clean as any good election)


rosie is roxy is roshan

Well, admittedly the google translations require translators /ID

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

but I thiink the part Samsam was referring to is the one  I bolded here toward the end of IranDOKHT's comment and I THINK it translates loosely to that she has more fun watching Craig's garbage than CNN's. And I think there's some kind of reference to non-Iranians' participation here in general that isn't too positive..not sure. Sorry. I'll really have to replace my long-lost Persian dictionary so I can do better next time.

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IranDOKHT's post (a la google):

Qaydt that much do not agree and I do not think that Ahmadinejad and the Iranian province of useful both doctrinal lawyer might do, very fresh, but I repeat that need Dlkhvrm! But I is not subject. My topic is you prefer a rising Mydm Bdvnm educated pro-Ahmadinejad (the hunt because of religious Trfdarysh not) because this system pro-regime and I میکنه, میگه what and how I justify this belief میکنه.

The Miami so I Mykhvnm Blogs, Bdvnm Shows
People think of doing, of what experts, news of what is new and how Iranians think and how I see theorem. And my curiosity about all Iranian Host not only Avnayy think that I like.

Sorry that a blog with only anger Mynvysy all, I must be in Iranian literature and the faces and just remember thinking this is a Jvry Hrsshvnv to empty. The comments I also Persian میگم order here in Miami that I thought how Bdvnm Iranians are doing and ideological.
If I comment this Bdvnm Fax programmer I watch I'm good! I like this instead of harassment is CNN!

Of course I still Gyjm نمیدونم Friday and what میشه ... Rafsanjani Qrarh بگه what, you fight or میشه Nemisheh fate of our country and people where Myrs·h. Hqyqtshv do not see that far too بخوای Rafsanjani declared unity and smelting کنه I Bkhvad Bknh theorem. Not for that I Bkhvad کنه's unity, but I do not overcharge on Rafsanjani and I think until the filler material Bbrh Mqamsh use the brush are very important. I also think that we do not like ... Was fun ;-)
I'm not sure this is the thousands of people to prayer Berne in this case show how the body attitude.

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Now I'm not sure that that's what it says (and if it isn't maybe IranDOKHT would like to correct me..) but the fact is it doesn't matter if it says that Craig is God's gift to humanity, The point, IranDOKHT, is that you're talking about someone else in third person while the person ispresent in a language that he can't understand and almost everyone else can..

And I think most people would agree that that's bad manners. Don't you? And yet you are always lecturing people about their manners. Always.

Oh, I know, I know, no you don't. You just express yourself freely in a free speech forum from your heart out of genuine concern for the common good. So let me try a different tack.

 

You see, IranDOKHT, Craig may be Bill O'Reilley but...

he'd NEVER do to you publicly what you just did. Not in a million years.

Do you get my point now?

A nine year old child would.

 

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Hey, wow! The translated google gibberish picks up the codes from the original Persian and affect the formatting here. I wonder how it happens? Maybe CNN Craig could explain it.

btw IranDOKHT, do you really think that at this point in time someone who you think sounds like CNN is WORSE than an apologist for Mahmood Ahmadinejad?