Ahmadinejad's excessive mud slinging

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Jaleho
by Jaleho
15-Jul-2009
 

For the record, let me first reiterate that I found the presidential debates preceding the Iranian election to be a most fruitful phase in Iran's democracy; a fantastic evolutionary phase of the Islamic Revolution of Iran. It was one of the most important factors which brought up a historic number of Iranians into their country's political arena, which resulted in one of the most impressive mass participations in the election.  I believe that it was high time that the well kept secrets of factions and clerical factionalism following the revolution, be put on the table for everyone to discuss in an open and healthy manner for years to come. However, the constructive criticism mixed with political opportunism, also leads to exaggerated accusations, mud slinging, and hasty slanders that once the barriers are opened suddenly, it can wash out good and bad together in a massive ensuing and uncontrollable flood. 
 
The pent up legitimate frustration of Iranian youth aside; the high jacking of that frustration by foreign media's massive propaganda and the neo-con dream to convert the youth revolt to a "color revolution" ; the dreams of Iranian expats and Shahis who are trying to ride on the back of Iranian youth for their own agenda, and the faction fighting among Iranian clerics and groups within IRG supporting different factions aside.... there is a REAL price that Ahmadinejad will pay for his excessive "lajan parakani" during the presidential debates which is partly reflected in the mass demonstrations. He is partly guilty of the consequences of the civil unrest because of his unchecked accusations, slanders and uncivil debate.
 
Ebrahim Nabavi is writing an article today //iranian.com/main/2009/jul-19  in which he "advises" Rafsanjani in rejecting Ahmadinejad as the legitimate president in the upcoming Friday prayers!! While I believe that Mr. Nabavi better stick to being a jester which he can be good at instead of an advisor to Rafsanjani, I share with him the enthusiasm of Rafsanjani's upcoming chance to defend himself. Unlike Mr. Nabavi, I believe that Rafsanjani is more patriotic and less self-absorbed to attempt a coup in order to defeat the collective wish of Iranian people who elected Ahmadinejad with a large margin. Rafsanjani has devoted his entire life to revolution and Iranian cause, he won't betray Iran to satisfy the silly agenda of people like Mr. Nabavi!
 
I hope that the coming Friday prayers, an event that became one of the pillars of strength of Islamic Revolution and the symbol of the mass presence and vigilance, primarily spearheaded by none other than Heshemi himself, would teach a lesson of greatness and tactfulness to Mr. Ahmadinejad


After all, Mr. Rafsanjani has been an important leader of the revolution, and has been on the helm of the the Iranian ship in the most turbulent of the storms facing Iran. His clever leadership has kept Iran from drowning in a sea of international assaults against our country. Rafsanjani was a leader created by a historical moment which is hard to duplicate. Mr. Ahmadinejad is better remember that although he himself has risen from the womb of Iranian masses, and has served his country honestly and to his best in every position that he held, yet he won't be able to fill the footsteps of Rafsanjani, even if he were to live twice!  

I am sure that Hashemi Rafsanjani will be able to repudiate the mud thrown at him, and will defend his monumental legacy while he teaches Ahmadinejad once more some lessons in civility and the true revolutionary spirit.

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Shazde Asdola Mirza


  

اگه از سازمان اطلاعات جمهوری اسلامی پول میگیری، که حساب دیگریست.

وألا، این اراجیف بی‌ سر و ته رو بی‌ دلیل مینویسی؛ چون ۹۹ درصد خوانندگان این سایت میدونند که:

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Mardom Mazloom  hahahaha ... That was hilarious :D ,thx .

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Down with Islamic Republic and all hezbolahi and basiji,sepahi .

Down with Khamenei and all akhunds .

 


Onlyiran

Mardom Mazloom

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Very funny clip.  I  think that the two hezbollahis who are having a conversation with each other on this thread (Mola Nasredeen and Jaleho) probably had a "sangkoob" reading the title of your post!!  Because despite their manufactured confidence, they know, just like everybody else, that it's only a matter of time. 


Mardom Mazloom

IMPORTANT ..... IMPORTANT

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Craig,

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Oh I'm not miserable at all! I'm getting out what I have to say to the people who I have to communicate to, which really happen to not be the people you seem to think they are.  Including the authoress, who is incapable of assimilating anything that does not conform to her pre-existing agenda. It's not that she discards things, it's that they never even get in. Don't worry about me. I don't play anybody's game here anymore. I learned the hard way. And it has made me...hard. And I like me like that.

I also have a bunch of things I want to say to you about the deletion and account closure issue but not now. Later. Check back.

Take care,

r.


Mardom Mazloom

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ex programmer craig

In other words...

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fortunately I can always have a civil debate with people for whose character and opinion I care for.

You can only have a civil debate with people who agree with you. And if you were as smart as your friends claim, you would understand that isn't a "debate", at all.

Having a friend who can (and does) shut people down whenever they rain on your parade must enhance your chances of winning such non-debates subtantially as well, right? :D

Rosie, a bit of friendly advice even though we don't agree on much... they are goading you - don't make serious replies to them that show them how upset they have made you. That makes them happy. And it makes you miserable. I know how you feel... I've been there. But don't play their game.

 


rosie is roxy is roshan

To repeat, the entire Iranian Bar was destroyed yesterday

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

by the illegal changing of its bylaws so that from now on all those accredited to practice law in the Islamic Republic will effectively be handpicked by Khameini (aka Marshall Law). Human rights lawyers are now effectively barred from the Bar. The offcial impementation of this law was cynically coordinated to coincide with the Friday prayers yesterday, and with the violent arrest of a famous female human rights lawyer in a typical Horrorwood IRI theatrical stunt . Law is now offically illegal in Iran.

I post this now under a blog which begins thus:

For the record, let me first reiterate that I found the presidential debates preceding the Iranian election to be a most fruitful phase in Iran's democracy; a fantastic evolutionary phase of the Islamic Revolution of Iran 

and then proceeds to give Ahmadinejad and Khamenei taps of disapproval for events subsequent to all the fruitfulness. This is what propagandists do. They FRAME the topic according to their agenda and then provide details which would appear to prove that they are open and fair-minded. It's all in the framing.

Not a very pretty picture.

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FASCISTS IN PETTICOATS, UNITE AGAINST FASCISM!

 


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Thanks Mola, you said

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" There's no words about the 168 Iranians who died in the plane crash due to sanctions by the west on Iranian airliners. Those who ask for more sanctions must be blind if they care for the wellbeing of Iranian people. Iranians can't even buy spare parts for their aging planes. And in case of Iraq, sanctions killed more than half million children in Iraq due to lack of medicine and clean drinking water."

 

I just needed to emphasize that imortant point forgotten by ALL!


Jaleho

Thank you Mehrnaz jan

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Like I told IRANDokht and Niloufar previously, fortunately I can always have a civil debate with people for whose character and opinion I care for.

 

best regards,

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MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

Jaleh Jan

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I can't agree more: "His [Hashemi's] passionate call for release of everyone captured recently is THE one immediate demand that idiots like Makhmalbaaf should have singled out instaed of going to EU parliament and asking for more sanctions and stopping Iranian nuclear achievements".  

I salute your good humour and patience, Jaleh Jan.  Regardless of differing views I respect and enjoy reading your contributions.

 


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People, do you see how dangerous this type of person is?

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This dromedary still does not understand that I no longer read him  he doesn't believe me. He lacks honesty and intelligence so he's incapable of recognizing it in others. There's nothing more dangerous than a stupid unethical person behind the gun of a stupid dangerous ideology.


rosie is roxy is roshan

2nd Soft Coup: why anyone who apologizes for AN now is Fascist

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//iranian.com/main/2009/jul/shadi-sadr

The posting should be read of course with attention to the plight of the courageous lawyer but unfortunately we are no strangers these days to such depredations upon Iranians, the great and the ordinary, by this insidious Regime.

What is really important about this thread beyond her plight is a news item I linked to it at the bottom of the thread and the subsequent exchange I had with Ali P, culminating in David ET's very clear explanation of 'second soft coup with extensive commentary in English and Persian.

Khamenei, aka Marshall Law, quietly implemented a law yesterday during Friday prayers making law illegal in Iran.

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Anyone supporting this Regime now is a Fascist. Anyone excusing it in the name of anti-Imperialism is a Fascist Against Fascists. Anyone apologizing for it in the name of love is a Fascist in Petticoats.

And the three people on this thread who support it are each all three. The blogger, the dromedary and the tormented intellectual.

Or another way of saying it:

the Idealist, the Idealogue and the comic relief.

Fascists in Petticoats Unite Against Fascism!


rosie is roxy is roshan

What is Kommandant Kamel really? (Fascists against Fascism)

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Kommandant Kamel is what I said he is in my posts on the bottom of this thread,, which he supertitled "The Jews are Coming".

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/07/16/israels-military-message-iran

If anyone would like further corroboration, please ask me and I will be happy to provide the specific liinks.

Kommandant Kamel I noted just now in going back to retrieve this link, has posted many news items during all this unrest in Iran and mostof them were about Israel. Koomandant Kamel is the kind of person who would be HAPPY to trade in a thousand Nedas just for the privilege of being able to say the word "Zionazi'. He cares about as much about Iran as Khamenei does.That's why he and the brilliant tortured intellectual below seem to be about the only two regulars left onsite since the green wave who actually agree with Jaleho's politics.  F

Fascists against Fascism.

Kommandant Kamel:

You raise a good point here. Who cares? I don't care what you write so why do you care what I write: Why are you even reading this? I TOLD you on my last post on that news item I just linked that all I wanted to do was expose you and I had and I was finished and I wasn't reading you. You answered. I didn't read.

Now you just posted to me and I read the subject line and I agree: why do you care what I think or write? I don't care what you think or what you write. So I read the subject line only. Why did you just read me then? Why are you reading me now? Don't you have anything better to do? Like finding bigger and better ways of making ever more fragrant camel dung?


Mola Nasredeen

Rosie, This thread is about IRAN, Who cares what you wrote 10

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minutes ago or last year! Either engage the commentators about the subject at hand or get the hell out of this thread! We are talking about a nation in turmoil, with hundreds of thousands of people who demonstrated on the streets of Tehran while you are washing your old stinky dirty laundry here. Did you even write one sentence about the 168 Iranians who died in plane crash due to sanctions? This shows that you don't get it, you don't belong and you lack the sensebility for what's going on in Iran. Get a grip! 


rosie is roxy is roshan

One small question, Captain, /ps no, maybe not!

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so why is it that your dear friend who told you you were being rude to her dear friend can't see how rude her dear friend constantly and chronically is to others and in fact often supports it?

It's a rhetorical question.

Put in on the backburner. It will answer itslef in due course. Guaraneteed.

____________________

hint: a four-syllable verb down in my long post below, beginning with the letter "m". 

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No wait, maybe it's NOT so rhetorical. What happened on that thread you mentioned was that Jaleho told you you did not have the "mental capability" to understand her arguments. I replied with a post saying that Jaleho was the one who lacked the mental capability. The post was flagged and deleted. At the same time you ex-d out the content of your post and replaced it with an apology.

I wrote a short post to Jahanshah saying if my post to Jaleho defending Ayhab was deleted and he was so offerended by her that he wrote something so bad that he later had to ex out, why wasn't Jaleho's original attack on you also deleted?

Irandokht popped up gloating (she is a professional gloater, I am sorry to disappoint you but she is..) that it was deelted (she explained) because it was intrusive, abusive and so on, and "egging people on". And then ended with : See! The flagging process works!"

Now maybe you didn't notice this because you were star=struck by her. It's not surprising. Almost everyone has been at one point or another. (Four syllable word beginning with "m"...) Maybe she didn't realize thatsaying what she said to you behind the scenes and doing and what she said to me in public was ridiculous. (Just like on this thread she can't admit that talking about someone in a language they don't understand is rude). Her m's are not always that bright.

But honestly captain, if you saw what happened and you saw how she gloated vindictively and ridiculed me for having defended you you should have been able to get some of those stars out of your eyes..

now here's the thing. I don't really want to discuss it here further. That woman is one of the most manipulative people that has ever lived. . It sometimes takes a loooong time to see it, and when it happens, it often happens at great pain to the people who've been charmed (especially when chramed behind the scenes).

So don't take this little post of mine too to heart. Forget about it now and put it on the backburner. When it is time you will see, and when you see it will serve as corroboration that yes, she really is...what she is.


rosie is roxy is roshan

Regarding my last post, I'd written that it was not done..

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

as I realized it had major problems in it. So I was fixing it, and also CUTTING IT DOWN..it's far too long for what it's worth...but someone must've clicked on the Reply button, which freezes it. It can't be edited. So I'll just let it stand. In a mess.


Mola Nasredeen

Jaleho, Rafsanjani seems to be the voice of reason in the middle

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of chaos. He also wisely asked for the release of those who were arrested. As for Makhmalbaf and his recent outbreaking I agree with you. How are sanctions going to help the Iranians achieve their goal for democracy? There's no words about the 168 Iranians who died in the plane crash due to sanctions by the west on Iranian airliners. Those who ask for more sanctions must be blind if they care for the wellbeing of Iranian people. Iranians can't even buy spare parts for their aging planes. And in case of Iraq, sanctions killed more than half million children in Iraq due to lack of medicine and clean drinking water. Thanks for the comment. 


capt_ayhab

My few dozen 2Riali's

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It is all natural that we as human beings to surrender to our emotions, or to be taken by rage, and in those moments make statements, slanders, accusations that we regret later. It takes an honorable and decent human being admit to the deed and come forward to make amends.

At the expense of siding with anyone or any subject, allow me to share my own experiences with certain few characters in this site. My position should be clear to most dear contributors and commentators who honor me by taking time  reading and/or commenting on them. My position been to always acknowledge comments or philosophies which have logical foundation, whether I agree with them or not.

Of all the ladies and gentlemen with whom I have had the privilege of knowing[through their writings], one person has always stood out in majority of the threads that she has either written or commented on.

I would beg understanding for my frankness, since what I am about to say is by no means personal remark. I have no ill toward anyone  personally. My points are directed to remarks and  ideas,  and not the person herself.


This lady in question is none other than Ms. Jaleh0. From the very first threads that I commented on, her writings stood out in two distinct ways.

One was , to be perfectly honest, the quality of some of the arguments. Being perfectly fair, she does posses certain amount of knowledge and she is able to present them in logical, sophisticated, yet simple to follow way.

Sadly though, this quality is totally overshadowed by sarcastic, demeaning, degrading, name calling, character defamation, slanders, and outright rude and impolite  tone in majority of the times. At first I used to think that since her views were rather extremist and radical, and since many people disagree with her views, the posture and the tone must be self defense.

I was proven wrong very quickly after handful of threads. This is because I noticed that SHE in fact is the instigator of most if not all that is uncivil, rude, emotional, impolite and outright despicable personal attacks. Am I personally guilty of such conduct? of course I am, as we all are. However if I have ever disrespected anyone, either I have made amends once I had realized ugliness of my comment, deleted my comments, or in extreme situations it has been in self defense.

Unfortunately with Ms. Jaleho this is not the case. I am yet to see her to retract many rude and uncivilized comments she has made to any one person. She sees herself , in most childish and immature way, they only one with the knowledge of the truth! I am not going to attempt to psycho-analyze her since I do not posses the knowledge.

Ms. Jaleho, please bare in mind that I have no ill toward you, nor am I being vindictive, for if I was I would conduct myself in exact manner as you do. But allow me share my frank and honest opinion of you.....

Ms. Jaleho, you present yourself as one mean, bitter, arrogant, selfish and rude human being. These are the factors why so many people disrespect you and not because you disagree with them. After all, we are judged for quality of our contributions, and not the loudness of screams, and ugliness of our personal attacks.

Ms. Jaleho, you are a bright lady, with relatively vast knowledge of politics, and historical facts. Share them with us, let us learn form you, even when we disagree with you. Let us be role models for youngsters who visit this site. Let them learn true meaning of civility, tolerance, logic, and constructive debate. Let them learn that we can respect each other at the same time disagree vigorously on the issues.

One dear mutual friend, after asking me to delete my ugly comment to you, told me something that I value greatly, as I value her friendship. She said, and I am paraphrasing, [I hate to see two Iranian educators disrespect each to this degree, what signal are we sending to others?] This dear mutual friend is none other that Ms. IRANdokht.


In closing, I do hope you look at these as constructive criticism, and not as personal attack to your person.


Respectfully

-YT 


Jaleho

Mola, I found the speech BRILLIANT

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Rafsanjani is an incredibly shrewd politicain. His sermon was just what I was hoping. He did show that he is a true revolutionary and leader, who thinks about Iran first and foremost. I think he proved that he remains THE leader of Iranian revolution.  Except for Khomeini himself, I don't think anyone know the "rag khaab" Iranian people of ALL background as Rafsanjani does.

He started his sermon from the importance of people's presence in political arena reflected in the Friday prayers, stories of peyghamabar, but parts of which that resonated with people because of similarities with NOW. He cracked me up when he described the "yahood and nesara" of those times :-) Anyway, he showed that how an opposition leader can represent millions of disenchanted followers rather than making it about HIMSELF. His passionate call for release of everyone captured recently is THE one immediate demand that idiots like Makhmalbaaf should have singled out instaed of going to EU parliament and asking for more sanctions and stopping Iranian nuclear achievements. I think many people including Mousavi and Ahmadinejad should learn lessons in REAL leadership before this guy dies!

 


rosie is roxy is roshan

I see, so that's what it's all aboutWAIT NOT DONE EDITING

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

So.

Rosie and her mob 'persecuted'  you six months ago, while you stood all alone. Okay, to get to brass tacks.

The blog to which you-increasingly refer these days, Irandoikht, as having "persecuted' you with my 'gang', was written at the end of the Gaza thread wars and I wrote questioning whether someone who had made a certain statement should be a chief moderator with final deletion privileges (at that time there were a few who had them ). The statement was that she was tired of hearing Jews whine about the Holocaust.

I put it out as a philosophical and moral issue for the well-being of the site. I did not mention your name.  I asked people NOT to reply but to just THINK about it. It was intended to get the readers and the writers and the moderators and the publisher to THINK about whether the moderation system was truly fair during the Gaza thread wars. That's all it was. Because clearly anyone who made that statement should not have final deletion powers.

People jumped onto that blog and started naming you left and right Irandokht. with their own complaints about you . It wasn't me who named you Irandokht. It was others. People I did NOT know well. They knew in two seconds that the blog had been inspired by you.The blog stayed up for about three days. moving to most disccussed.  During that whole time you said nothing. THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE. After three days you graced it with your presence ONCE to say that you had absented yourself from the discussion to allow it to unfold just so the accusations would prove THEMSELVES to be ridiculous. THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE.

Although you LATER told me you had made a similar statement but that I had misparaphrased it, that you'd actually said you were tired of people  (not Jews) complaining (not whining) about the Holocaust, so apparently you felty ou rememembered the statement perfectly, you NOT ONCE on that blog said that, much less produced the original statement. Because YOU CHOSE silence to vindicate you.

Further: on that blog, you not once stated, not even at the very end during your cameo appearance, whether you had final moderation deletion privileges or in fact were a moderator at all.  We still do not know. You are the Persian Sphinx of the Great Moderation Question, the burning issue of our times. Had you come out and said you did not maike the statement I claimed and/or did not have chief moderation privileges, the entire point of the blog would've been rendered irrelevant because its ONLY concern was that a person who made SUCH a statement should not have DELETION privileges of posts.

And anyone with a grain of sense in their head, whether they like me or despise me, knows perfectly well that once the premise of my blog had been successfully proven wrong, I would've retracted the entire blog. I said, anyone with a grain of sense. I DID NOT WRITE THAT BLOG ABOUT YOU. I WROTE IT TO QUESTION THE FAIRNESS OF THE MODERATION SYSTEM. I DID NOT MENTION YOU.

Others did. .and you let that blog run and said NOTHING. 

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And now you sit here and gloat about how I 'fell flat on my face'. I think any normal objective observer would agree that it is somehow...creepy..for someone six months later not to be able to shut up about something they maintianed willful silence on when it would've taken ten minutes for the whole discussion to end had they spoken. And here's the even creepier thing:

At that time your strategy worked, Inrandokth. The people who rallied against you on that thread-ALL members of the 'minoirty opinon' on Gaza, that is the NOT anti-Zionists to pro-Zionists--were such a small minority that they weren't really significant in the general power trajectory  of the site, only as rather minor challengers. While those of the majority opinon were. So the one who suffered was ME. MY reputation was disgraced among many people in that 'majority' and yours was enhanced. For some time. You were greatly defended. My integrity was questioned AND IT NEVER HAD BEEN BEFORE. NEVER. Vendetta. Over and over I was told I had a 'vendetta' against you. 

But that was in the winter. Fast-forward to present.

Where are your defenders now?

Where were they on your Ahmadinejad blog when I scathingly and in great detail analyzed you as a political propagandist for the middle ground with the ultimate goal of promoting yourself? Where were those defenders on one of the most-discussed blogs about the most important event in the 30 years of the Islamic Repbulic? You replied at length, so surely they didn't feel they needed to deflect from my post with their silence??? 

Surely people don't like ME better than they did before. I've become meaner than a junkyard dog.

So what accounts for their silence? Now.

Having had a half a year to get to know you better since that long ago blog last winter? 

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They're all gone Irandokht. So many people..just...disappeared.

And THAT'S creepy...

And creepier still, that you don't see it.

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I've tried to tell you several times that over the course of these several months so many people have come to me, from left, right, center, apolitical, some of the nicest people you could imagine, and told me how sick to death they are of your position as the self-appointed Miss Manners of iranian.com telling everyone what is proper to say or do, and playing to the middle publicly while constantly manipulating people on and off-site. But you can't hear me.

You are earless.

 

 

 

which is:

 

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ex programmer craig

ID

by ex programmer craig on

ex-PC either prove it or keep silent

 

How do you suggest I prove it, after you deleted all my comments? lol. You even deleted (or locked, or whatever) the account I had at that time, so I can't even go back and track old threads from that account.

So, sorry, you'll have to deal with my recollections of what happened. That's one of the prices you pay when you are a book-burner, right?

other people? you mean Rosie and her mob? LOL  yup! that was my point
too. She persecuted me for no reason, lead a mob of over-excited idiots
all eager to lynch me in the cyber world and she fell flat on her
face. 

So everyone you victimized is "Rosie and her mob"? You victimized me, and Rosie doesn't even like me. Am I part of Rosie's mob, too? :o

Repeating her words doesn't validate your accusations. Sorry
dude try again.

You still haven't denied it. Why is that? Are you afriad that some people on this website actually know the truth and will out you, if you go so far as to deny doing something that you DID do?

btw people are not censored on this site for their opinion but for
their foul language and for insulting others.

That's a lie. I've had comments that contained neither insults nor profanity deleted (by you)  - while at the same time comments that contained insults and foul language that I was trying to reply to, remained. I think you told this lie before in the very threads where you were deleting my comments and I commented to ask why some foul languaged bigotry was still there, but my comments were vanishing as fast as Imade them. Guess what happened? You deleted that comment, as well.

Stop doing it and you
won't be censored.

Stop censoring people just because they say things you don't want to hear, and people won't complain about censorship.

If JJ has such a high opinion of you that he gives you moderator privileges on thsi webiste, which you feel free to abuse, that is up to him. It's his website. I'm not going to try to "debate" somebody who has moderator status on this website, and who has a history of using that to shut people up.


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Irandokht

by KouroshS on

You are defending the indefesnsible. I do not mean to meddle with the issues that is between you and pc craig and rosie, and even though this is jaleho's blog, Given his/her unusual openness and liberal style of making his viewpoints known to us all, I don't think jaleho would mind hearing or reading this. You Did a good presentation of how there needs to be mutual respect and how you treat someone in the nastiest possible way if they do the same to you, But here when it comes to jaleho you have totally missed the boat.

During some of the most important events that were the topic of discussion on this website, such as the recent election and specially on the delara darabi's situation, one clear signal that indicated being emotional and taking matters personally was the fact that this person comes out and refers to all those who defend positions she most definitely is against, as "barking dogs in the background", sore losers, Idiots, and so many other names. In other words, She took it on herself and she went out of his/her way  to directly insult everyone. She treated all equally, without any proof whatseover of their wrongdoings!! whatever the hell that means to you, In all the cases.

I doubt that many of us here on this site agree, or even believe that there is even an ounce of truth in your statement when you say that she only was defending herself, using her sharp tongue. As far as i can remember attacks and viciousness had always been initiated on her side and in response to some innocent and objective comments that were more factual and truth-oriented, than anything she had to say.

I am not taking sides here and I have nothing against Jaleho, Hey Jaleho, I have nothing against you, okay? But facts are facts and i do admire people like rosie who despite all that others may not like about them, do come forward with the evidence and what really makes sense, rather than just a bunch of nonsensical rethorics.

One suggestion: You may want to quit using terms such as "why is it so hard to grasp" and see how much more friendly other users can treat you and your firends.

 

 

 

 

 


Bijan A M

Jamshid khan

by Bijan A M on

Thank you for your sensible post (as always). Welcome back...I have always appreciated your opinions and contributions to any debate on this site.

How do you see this movement? Is it just the reaction of a sore loser (as Jaleho suggests) or is it the beginning of the end of the IRI?

Best regards 


Mola Nasredeen

Jaleho, What's your take on Rafsanjani's comments today?

by Mola Nasredeen on

I've been following the news about Rafsanjani's sermon at Friday's prayers and demonstrators outside. Where's this going? 


Iraneh Azad

Jamshid

by Iraneh Azad on

Thank you for your excellent reply to the people who are under the false impression that the IRI today is somehow independent. The IRI is a loser entity dependent on 3rd class Vodka drinkers and cheap Chinese garbage.

Have you seen this video below from today?

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=InKo75c-l1A

"There's not much by the way of image, it's taken by people who couldn't make it inside, but it's the recorded audio that is fascinating. Traditionally, there's this guy at the Friday prayers whom people mockingly call 'vazireh shoaar', or the minister of slogans. His job is to shout slogans through loudspeakers and lead the crowd to chant death to America or Israel or whoever after him. In this clip you hear the crowd going flatly against him as he desperately cycles through the usual slogans (death to America, death to Israel, death to England and so on), and regardless of what he shouts, the crowd keeps repeating one chant: 'marg bar roosiyeh' (Death to Russia) !!" (Pasted from Huffington Post)

People in Iran know exactly who the enemy of the Iranian nation is today. Its Russia, China and the IRI.

Thanks for your great post.


IRANdokht

ex-PC either prove it or keep silent

by IRANdokht on

"I didn't realize it was you until I came back several months later, and came upon some quite contentious threads where several other people were accusing you fo doing the exact same thing to them that had been done to me."

other people? you mean Rosie and her mob? LOL  yup! that was my point too. She persecuted me for no reason, lead a mob of over-excited idiots all eager to lynch me in the cyber world and she fell flat on her face.  Repeating her words doesn't validate your accusations. Sorry dude try again.

Why I didn't deny it!?! No the question is why don't you show proof when you make baseless accusations? You have the nerve to blame me for having deleted your account and now you want me to defend myself? what if you blame me for killing JFK next, should I  continue to defend myself every time you have a melt-down?

btw people are not censored on this site for their opinion but for their foul language and for insulting others. Stop doing it and you won't be censored. Do I have to teach you the difference between expressing an opinion and insult?  it's easier to blame it on me than to take responsibility for the foul language you used that caused your deletion, isn't it? Is that the "honor" they taught you?

Thank God people like you and rosie are nobody in this country or you would have ruined it like the narrow-minded people who have ruined my other country!
and for the rest of the accusations that you made here: show proof or hush!

IRANdokht