FREE IRAN FROM COCKROACHES and NAZIS

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Thank you for your opinion

1. I am still against the Pahlavis and MKO and any other opportunistic organizations. But I don't hate them I am just aganst them

2. I will still call Reza's Mom a whore and his sister a drug addict, depressed and spoiled brat who wasted the Iranian people's money on drugs and alcohols

3. I will still ask the Pahlavis' family to return Iranian people's wealth the money that the stole form us and give a public aplogy to the killing and assassination by their father of intellectuals and prominent Iranians. Again that is my personal opinion and under democracy I am free to exercise that and belive me 70% of Iranian people will agree with me on that. Return our mney and every cent of it.

4. Do I hate monarchist? Not at all, Do I hate MKO? Not at all; I am gainat them yes

Do I hate IRI? yes of course and anyone who will act like a tyrannt and disrpect Iranian people

Thanks for the lesson of democracy I am always learning

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Re: HateIRI

Talking about hyprocrisy. You sound nice and dandy. But you don't walk the walk and you only talk the talk.

But it seems that you are genuine. So I suggest you start by taking the very first step. The next steps are "pishkesh".

Once you take this first step, then you are in the position to preach democracy, but until then, preach it to yourself, only.

First step: Recognize that there are many Iranian monarchists. Or should I say, Pahlavists. I say this because if you tell those monarchists that the "asghar" family will be king, 99% of them will become republicans! Instantly!

Take a pole and ask them. You'll see I am correct. They are Pahlavists, not monarchists. But still.

Still, there are many of them. Both in Iran and abroad. There could easily be millions who have some sort of attachment to that family.

You called Leyla and her still mourning mother "whores" in some of your comments. Is this democracy? There is no place for people like you in a true democracy. This is more like Hezbollahi people talk, the very same people you despise.

So in order to have a place, and a say, in a democracy, the first step for you is to learn tolerance. To learn that people are human beings who strive thourgh the same kind of pains and sufferings that you do, no matter what politics they support.

After you learnt that they are all humans with rights, then you have become a genuine human being who can talk about democracy, or even preach it.

Until then write articles, but for your own self. Read them. Memorize them. Write some more. But until you learn to incorporate it into your psyche and actions, don't lecture the rest of us.

You, HateIRI, are NOT a hypocrite when you express your hate towards the IRI. But you ARE a hypocrite when you talk about democracy.

Hating IRI is not the same than loving democracy. They are two different concepts.

Now go practice. It is your first prerequisite step. In college, you can't start taking calculus when you don't know algerbra. It is the same in here.

Farah Rusta -- You might be right

But these are my heroes

I am sure you have your heroes 

The point here was not about  who is more of an hero or more of a partriot.

It was about a government that constantly discriminates its own people and takes away their freedom and equality because of their beliefs or religion or gender. 

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What about those who didn't vote?

Are they any less patriotic than those who are protesting in the streets and wear a green arm band? Do they hate the IRI any less than you do?

Your classification of your "heros" is hugely simplistics and sentimental.

FR

Ali P. -- I have to agree with everyone you nailed it

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capt_ayhab -- I like that

I liked your last posting 

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HATEIRI

You noted[But in Iran we don't even have the most simple rules for equality and equal justice for all.]

I have no arguments about the discriminatory system that IR has established in Iran, which they enforce through intimidation, imprisonment, accusation and murder of innocent. 

Being perfectly honest with you this is precisely my point. It is not people in Iran who have established these laws, for it is barbaric IR system which discriminates against minorities, Baha'is, Azaries, Kurd, etc etc etc. Although there might be some exceptions, but majority of Iranian population do not exercise these barbaric rules within the family units nor in their interpersonal relations with society.

You might ask why people do not stand up to these injustices?? My answer would be, EVERYONE in Iran is subject to them, and unfortunately women, religious minorities[i.e Baha'is], take the brunt of most of the brutalities.

Ali P: You nailed it dude, being an @sshole in any society is a right protected by law LOL   ;-)

-YT 

capt_ayhab no it is a system

A system is a set of mutually dependent variables.
That means all variables must function together mutually dependent of each other.
To say that a set of variables comprises a system is to hypothesize that each variable in the set is a function of every variable in the set.
A society is an open system.
Everyone must be respected.
But in Iran we don't even have the most simple rules for equality and equal justice for all.
Since the Shah most minorities have been discriminated against. During the Shah Kurds, Azeri, Baluchi and Arab minorities were discriminated as well as during the IRI which discrimination got worst against as well religious minorities and women.
When we can't stand up against the bombing happing in Kurdistan by the IRanian Air Force killing Iranian Kurds or the facte that half of the country is been living under poverty then how can we ask for freedom and democracy when we don't even recognize that.
Or
When a Bahai students has no rights to attend university or a women gets only 1/8 of inheritance and is treated as a third class citizen then that is not a functioning system.
I am just saying we need to discuss about these topics as well if we really want to move froward.
We can't have another government and again foget about all these variables in our system.

Darius Kadivar

The point here is you are forgiven for the crimes committed by your master.

Actually your master Mr. Pahlavi brought alot of racism and introduced a great deal of segragation amongs people.

His idea was two class of people his class and your class you of course been his servant.

I know you can't stand other ideologies and opinion and you are only thinking of Pahlavi but he does have no place in Iran unless he pays back the Iranian people the money that he and his family stole from the Iranian people.

lol@Ali P

Now that is right on! :)
There are SUPPOSED to be jerks in a democracy!

You mean...

We can't have racists, sexists, or we can't make fun of others in a democracy?

In business, they used to say (back then when they used to manually write checks!) if you -as a business owner- do not have any bad checks in your drawer, you have not done enough business.

In a free and democratic society, if you don't have any jerks, something is wrong! :-)

Easier Said than Done ...

But you did earn a Democratic LOL

The more the merrier ...

Please watch this clip By HATEIRI

Reza Pahlavi comparison to IRI By HATEIRI

Utopia ?

HATEIRI,

Although you have put some nice thoughts to your writing, which I enjoyed reading it I might add, however what you are proposing has more to do with how a civilized and fair person should act, rather than how democracy is earned.

I do agree that democracy is earned by fighting for, and society as a whole evolves with the process, but majority of your points are matter of private conduct in the household and interpersonal relationship among the members of society.  What people might or might not do in their privacy has nothing to do with the set of law and constitution that governs the nation as a whole, or does it?

Q: IF a parent living lets say in USA sets curfew for children of teenage stage and enforces them, for instance that they need to be home by such and such time, or have to spend certain many hours studying, knowing that childern are going to call it unfair and unjust, are these parents being a democratic parent or a dictatorial ones?

If we define democracy as governance of majority, with representation from every layer of society, under the rule of fair and just law and constitution,  then there are always going to be many laws and regulations that are written for the society as a whole, yet certain group may deem these laws as unfair. Is such a society still considered a democratic society?

-YT 

passionate and proud

well said HATEIRI.  No one is "always" right, not me and not you.  But this time you nailed it.  It's gotta start somewhere... taking back pride in yourself and your country.  You deserve it!

I was going to say...

,,, "right on", democracy needs to be fought for, even in countries where they already have it. But this didn't turn out to be what I thought.
In fact, I think the road to democracy is a lot simpler than what's been mentioned here. It just needs to be fought for. At least it's a much less complicated concept.

Kurush..Wow

I have seen people with racist ideology but you my friend is on top list, for being so called Iranian and using that name..it is people like you whom create nothing but hate between us Iranians. You rather should speak of that shia theocracy rather than vatan parasti. You sound like little kid, and if not perhaps not quite educated, seeing from the context of your respond. Always remember that Kurds have been in Iran since the creation of our country and without us defending it there wouldn't have be a place called Iran today. Read history and open your minds before bashing others.
Hateri
well said my friend.

"DEMOCRACY" begins at home

"DEMOCRACY" begins at home.

If you (plural) believe you are following a democratic path.... STOP... stop and re-evaluate yourself.
I found many instances where I thought I was something good, where in fact, I turned out to be the total opposite.(after my looooong and continuous self-evaluation)

Some basics that I have partially achieved so far:

*- I can admit that I have been wrong gracefully.
*- I try to put myself in "their" shoes... even my boss... my co-workers and friends... and particularly my family members.
*- Have given up many a parking space and
position in line(!) when I realized "they" were there before me... and with a smile!

Now please don't laugh at me!
This is no easy task!

I don't let people walk allover me and deny me of my rights( in fact I'll fight tooth and nail if I have to) but when after evaluating the situation - sometimes it takes only a fraction of a second, other times much longer - if I find that others are in the right, I try to give them their dues and see the situation from their point of view.

I am still working on myself....

Kurush -- It is ver sad that you carry this name

Kuroush - Cyrus the great, King of the kings 

he believed in human rights, human dignity and  equality

 It is the backward and ignorant and primitive attitude by people like you who have created such a segraegation and racism in Iran and have given voice to the nazis.

I bet with you that you live in USA and have a great job and also love to support you IRI and their terrorist, fascist ideology.

No there will be no riots aor any killing we are not animals like you. 

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Humbug!!

It must have made you proud of yourself to trumpet some hollow sounding universalisms. They are just that: humbug, hollow platitudes. The fact remains that almost all Jews on this site and elsewhere & almost all Kurds & almost all Iranians with US/Western citizenships have conspired with the sworn enemies of Iran, namely the US, Britain, Germany, France, all Western predators, to overthrow the legitimate government of Iran. The legitimate government of Iran, the IRI, is the only national defense against the barbaric predatory West & the chaos they intend to foist upon Iran. Once the IRI is gone, there will be factionalism, back stabbings, chaos, a weak central government (just like in Iraq & Afghanistan) at the mercy of the Western thugs. And that is of course what the Western/Zionist thugs are exactly looking for: an Iran prostrate, genuflecting, bleeding before the Western thugs.

It did not surprise me that one trait you failed to trumpet was deep PATRIOTISM (Vatanparasti/Meehanparasti) which entails deep loyalty towards the nationalistic sovereign government which supplanted the puppet regime of the Pahlavis by the dint of that great Iranian Revolution of 1979? Could it be that since you are a citizen of the US (or UK, or Germany, or France) your allegiance lies elsewhere? Did you just forget since it is not the main concern of yours & those readers who applaud your humbug, especially since you are bent on bringing chaos to Iran? Is it not the ultimate in disloyalty and ungratefulness in you and many of those who post at Iraniandotcom to try to help overthrow a government which has brought security and relative stability to Iran in a region of the world where the predatory Zionist/Western thugs are bent on destabilizing?

And, yes, before I forget: all those ethnic groups you so much are concerned with, in the event of the fall of the IRI, will be carrying heavy arms to protect themselves in Iran, for there will be a civil war just like in Afghanistan & Iraq. Was it not that war criminal Tony Blair & his wife who were going to bring liberation to the Afghan women, and yet, is it not the Afghan women & children who have most horribly suffered after their so-called liberation?

Your universal rhetoric notwithstanding, your views reflect the low-level political maturity & consciousness, and simpleton mindset of many on this site & on the streets of Tehran ( I now that because I know a few of them well) who have jumped in bed with the sworn enemies of Iran- without any regard for the dire consequences of their beliefs & behaviours.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME READ THE CONTENT AND FORGET ME

Ok well said Arash and Fozoolie - I am horrible and I am an evil man but this is not about me focus on the real issue that suirrounds us in Iran

Now let us focus on the real issue -- Don't make it about me, I am irrelevant here

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I wonder

Do you know there is saying the say one deserves what happens to them in life.

Do you tink we Iranian deserve what is happening to us?

What have we done or didn't do that we desrev such a tyrannt and brutal regimes?

I wondered about that

Then I realized we never took a stand for the Kurdish people when our governmnet was bombing them like crazy and thousand of them men, women and children died (By the way they are more Iranians than we are) then we wonder why the want to get separated.

Then I realized we never took a stand for the people in Sistan Baluchista, whose people are been kidnapped, raped by bandist and drug dealers and umemployment perhaps is in 70% or higher.

Then I realized we never took a stand when someone was harassing our Azeri and other Iranian compatriotes.

 Then I realized we never stood up for theat Bahai family, jewish family, Armenian Family, Zaraostrian family or that women who was beaten, harrassed and humiliated infront of the public.

 Did you take stand for that?

Did you ever go on the streets of LA and demonstrated about racism and discrimianetion in IRan? Did you ver say anything about that Bahai stuident who was spit on his face in the school yard by the religiuos teacher? or that student because of his religuon was kicke out of the university?

 WHY? 

 If you haven't start now. Cemocracy starts by showingrespect to all the mebers in the community.

Don't be a hypocrite and start there first and then talk about FREE IRAN.

ZENDEH BAD IRANINAN FROM ALL CORNERS ALL RELIGIONS ALL ETHNICITIES YOU ARE MY TRUE HEROES 

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Well Said Arash

Given the innuendos and lies HATEIRI has put up.... That made me laugh when he/she started talking about respecting each other.

Mr. Fozolie

15 years ago

I gathered amongst a group of friends. We wre trying to prevent the deportation of Iranian refugees back to Iran in vancouver, Canada.

 Then I spoke to a well spoken and well dressed Bahai women She told me about her story and told me how the regime IRI took over the house shot her husband and son infront of her and spit on their dead body.

She only has a daughter now who lives in LA

Since then I realized I am no diffrent than the IRI regime or any other racist individual since I never took a stand for this people who are my hamvatan.

From then on I promised no more jokes or racist remark about any Iranian. If I belive in human rights, human dignity and equality it has to start with me.

These stereotyping and hatred must stop, Iran must unite and people should recognize all these facets of the society. 

You want freedom and democracy fight for those who have been discrimianted for centurires in Iran. 

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Needs a fertile enviroment

Democracy is never achievd over nigth and it is not earned.It is developed and evolved in a society over time.such movement can only flourish in a fertile enviroment/society/system.

Oppressive regimes like the Pahlavi and IRI have not provided such fertile enviroment for us. 

Such emviromet also encourages values like , respect for the law , respect for one another rigths and beliefs , etc...

Well Said! HateIRI

 Thank you for reminding us of our duty as a civilized member of a society.

Payandeh IRAN & IRANIANS

Down with IRI

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