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Would YOU Fight for America?
20-Dec-2010
The writings below were inspired by this blog from Fesenjoon.
The United States Oath of Allegiance (that’s the oath that all you naturalized U.S. citizens took to become citizens) states:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
I’m sure you all remember the day you took this oath. For most non-Iranian people who become U.S. citizens, that day is a joyous, happy day. For some—not all—Iranians, it’s a day where they can brag about their “zerangi” and prepare to file petitions to bring the rest of their family over to the U.S. Nothing wrong with--except for the fact that now that you have put your John Hancock (or, if you prefer, Abdullah Islaminejad) on that form, you are legally obligated to do certain things. One of those pesky little things is the obligation to bear arms on behalf of the U.S. This means that in case there is a war and a draft, you will have to put down the chelo kabob dish, say goodbye to the summer vacation and cheap opium parties (and more chelo kabob) in Iran, get out of your leased Mercedes and mosey on to the nearest recruitment center and be shipped to whatever area of the world the U.S. government thinks is appropriate for you to be--and fight for your new country. That’s right. You’re now an American. And it’s not “golabi” or “velesh kon baba, ki halesho dareh” type thing. You’re in it for the long haul.
Now let’s say that IR and its supporters’ wishful thinking actually comes true and the U.S. gets engaged in a war with Iran. See, in a democratic system like the U.S., there is a debate process about this sort of thing. But once the debate is over, and the decision is made to go to war, you can’t argue and “safsateh” about it any longer. The time for debate is over. Your representatives in the government have voted. It’s time to put the gear on and suit up--and shut up. What would you do if and when the time comes? Hide in Canada? Are all of you all of a sudden going to become “conscientious objectors?” Hey, Japanese Americans had to fight in WWII-some of them while their family members were interned in internment camps. Sen. Daniel Inouye had to do it. His parents were Japanese immigrants. He volunteered at Pearl Harbor and then fought the Japanese and was heavily wounded, receiving the Medal of Honor. Many German Americans fought in WWII. John Abizaid is Arab American. He was Centcom’s commander during the war in Iraq.
The scenario is one that actually happened in Iran as well. During the Iran / Iraq war, we knew a family who was Iranian / Iraq. The wife was Iraqi and her husband was Arab Iranian who also had relatives in Iraq. Their son fought for Iran, knowing that most of his family was Iraqi. There were many other examples like that.
But let’s say that you’re too old to fight. Or that you’re openly gay (hey, they haven’t repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” yet) or you have some kind of a medical issue that prevents you from becoming a soldier. The other part of your oath says that you “will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that [you] will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law …” That could mean spying you know. It could also mean translation service for U.S troops, making shells for tanks, etc. How are you going to get out of those things? Remember, no one has forced you to be a U.S. citizen. I assume that you all had green cards before you become citizens, which didn’t place the obligations of citizenship on you. Why did you take on this legal obligation? So you could stay in Iran for more than six months and not have to worry about it? So that you could bring your cousin here? Too bad. Whatever your reason was, that whole citizenship thing comes with a lot of baggage. So, here’s what I propose to you fake U.S. citizens: give it up. I mean your citizenship. It’s not too late. It can still be done. In fact, I have taken the liberty of preparing the following form letter that you all could use:
To: U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
(insert your local office address)
Dear Sir / Madam,
My name is (Hassn Hossein / Fatemeh Soghra) Iranipour. My alien number is (insert your immigration number). I filed an application for citizenship on (date). On (date) I appeared at your office and took the citizenship oath. But now I realize that I no longer want to be a U.S. citizen. This is because I am (insert one or more of the following as they apply to you: an America hater; an IR lover; a coward; I don’t consider the U.S. to be my country; I am a “cause head” and hating the U.S. is my main cause; I am a leftover Iranian Marxist; I love Hassan Nasrollah; I love Ayatollah Khamenei; I love Osama Bin Laden and believe that he is a freedom fighter). I am also a liar because I did not tell you about any of this when I took my citizenship oath. But never mind that. In our culture we do these things. We think we are clever. But, where was I? Oh, yes, can I get my green card back please? Attached are my American passport and my certificate of citizenship. I am returning it to you…and no, I have not reported it lost and gotten a new one.
PS- how log can I stay out of the country in Iran now that I only have a green card? I have 4 pieces of land and six houses there that I need to rent / repair / sell.
Sincerely yours;
(Hassn Hossein / Fatemeh Soghra) Iranipour
See how easy that was? Now, for once in your lives, print the letter and send it to your local immigration office. Consider it a charity work for the new year, the charity being our honesty toward a nation that took you in and embraced you when your homeland was giving you the middle finger.
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in a heartbeat
by mahmoudg on Mon Dec 20, 2010 05:30 PM PSTOnly because without America, the thought of countries like Iran and their supporters on this site running the world is tantmount to entering pergutory. So, yes I will and will proudly see many hundreds of thousands of brainwashed basij who killed many of my countrymen, and perhaps even some of your relatives and will kill millions more in a heartbeat, meet their maker.
Agha Maziar: In other words, Barbari has to go inside Boshkeh!
by Bus Shofer on Mon Dec 20, 2010 05:22 PM PSTThanks for the clarification!
...
by maziar 58 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 05:16 PM PSTshofer jaan Remember that joke about Timsaar BACHEH-bAZ AND THE DAHATI GOMASHTEH ?
After a few session of becoming sarvan...
he offered him full retirment and free money that he can go back to his valayat.
he started crying and the Timsar asked him BAlam jaan chi shood ?
he said I was trying to count how many lavvat you did to become a Timsaar ? Maziar
Sargord: What does it take for you to move up the rank to be a..
by Bus Shofer on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:59 PM PSTSarhang? Are there any extra courses you have to take? Are there any special training you have to go through?
So Pirouz
by Khar on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:58 PM PSTaway from all the Barbari jokes, I want to know why are you so anti-American and pro IRI and love AN? It baffles me. Does this run in your family? I believe you are an American, born and raised here in this great land, and You don’t appear to be on IRI payroll like No Fear and Q, the question than is why? why do you carry so much hate towards the rest of us Iranian-Amrecans and your place of birth?
This a very serious question!
Sargord
by Simorgh5555 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:56 PM PSTI don't want to rub it in but:
Native American:
noun
a member of any of the indigenous peoples of North and South America and the Caribbean Islands.
Oxford Dictionary. Let me know if you fit this description.
AO - US green card holders can be drafted into army too
by MM on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:55 PM PSTA few corrections in your blog (//www.selectiveservice.us/).
If the draft is reinstated by an act of congress again, you can be dratfed into the US army as a green card holder. Or, you can volunteer for the service as a green card holder. Some w/o green cards may even decide to join (sorta like the French Foriegn Legion) and in return, the process of residency is shortened.
As a matter of fact, all US permanent residents are required by law to register with the selective service at the post office. Refusal to do so is grounds for denial of a future citizenship application. When one applies for naturalization, there is a section that asks you if you have registered for selective service or not (when/where).
On the other hand, one can claim Conscientious objection to wars and avoid being drafted.
Sargord -Native Son#2
by Simorgh5555 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:32 PM PSTYou just proved my point. So your grandmother was Azari and had and your father came to the USA at a young age, so at one time they were all FOB immigrants (as you call them) who became naturalised. The only thing which sets you and other exiles apart is the lenght of time your family have lived here in the USA.
However, your very tone, 'native son' of America makes it sound that your family are Sous or Apache or one of the other Euroasian people that settled in America. That is what I udnerstand as a 'native' American or the early Anglo-European settlers who adopted this label. you are neither. Your faimily stock are neither. This is clearly another deception you are using. You also had the audacity to say that your family resided to America since the 'ice age'. The late 1800's is not the ice age. A slight exaggeration on your part? I think it is more a clear deception in your bogus role of the 'American' sales man of the Islamic Republic.
You are NOT a native American and your ruse has been exposed. Mind, you all IR supporters and Islamists share your pattern of deception.
SP Grandpa was a POW in Strasbourg during WWII ... However ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:18 PM PSTIt Seems even then Treason seemed to run in his Family ...
Hogan's Heroes: Carter Turns Traitor (
LOL
Exclusive Footage of How SPink's Pedigree was refused Entrance
by Darius Kadivar on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:11 PM PSTIn France ...
The President of the time must have refused his Poroo Father the Visa over a similar incident which involved SPink Last Summer with the current President :
Sarkozy : casse toi pauvre con!
LOL
No Wonder he Hates us so much since...
Tel Père, Tel Fils
Hee Hee
Full of crap as usual
by Fair on Mon Dec 20, 2010 04:02 PM PSTchicken colonel. You wouldn't know a real hero if he or she slapped you in the face, otherwise you would support the Iranian people and not their rapists. Chicken hawk yeh gohesh beh sad hezar ashghalee mesle to meearzeh. Like I said, you are the wannabe, in search of a country to pretend to come from, and failing every day of your miserable life. Indeed wasted breath from an empty terrorist soul.
Simorgh, that problem with
by Sargord Pirouz on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:53 PM PSTSimorgh, that problem with entry was in France, not the US. My Iranian dad was already 13 when he came to the US in '49. My Iranian grandmother was Azari. My mom's American. Like I said, that part of my family is from the southwest. Official records list our family lineage beyond 1800. I don't know what your babble over hair and eye color is about. But granted the way an English political party consider your kind a Paki and a Wog, your preoccupation with such things--to a degree--is understandable.
Parthian, your grasp of the English language needs addressing. How long have you been FOB now?
AO, who the heck is Willis? lol
Yes but Fair, just about all of them are native sons and not liar-wannabe's like yourself. You know your lies really do a disservice to the real hero that is your avatar. But hey, I'm wasting my breath on a lying chicken-hawk like yourself.
A O khan
by maziar 58 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:46 PM PSTTake it Easy Bro!
Did read the whole thing you wrote BUT don't remember saying any of the Oath mentioned Except saying I DO! When I took the oath some 27 yrs.ago; just like marrying that's all .
No Iraqi or Afghani were required to join America to fight over there, some went on their own to make $10-11000 a month to work as MOTTARJEM next to pfc. making $ 1500 a month!! I know few of them (sad part they don't even have an Iraqi or Afghani high school education either). just 7-8 yrs of Iraqi military background!!
Happy yalda get yourself a pack of salted pistachios and 6 pack heineken to celebrate the season and advocate peace.
DOWN WITH IRR Maziar
Fair
by Simorgh5555 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:46 PM PSTRe Sargord. You nailed it: 'semblance of a country'.
This is Sargord's argument: IR policies are ok because I'm a 'native' son of America. The IR gets the seal of approval from me because I'm a real 'American'. I'm a quarter American, didn't you know? I support the IR which takes my citizens hostage and raids my country's embassy.
Chicken Colonel Sanders
by Fair on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:38 PM PSTspewing out BS again. There are actually a significant number of Iranian Americans serving in the US military. And unlike Colonel Sanders, they are not hypocrites, and do not by any means support the most backward stone age fascist mullahs that are raping Iran.
As usual, poor delusional chicken self proclaimed sargord here is trying to cling to any semblance of a country that he may have. But being a stateless terrorist whose only allegiance is to a bunch of pedophile rapist fascist mullahs, he has none.
Sargord - That 'Native Son' story again?
by Simorgh5555 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:31 PM PSTI told you Sargord, that crap just doesn't cut it. For a the uninitiated, the naive or the plain stupid will believe you and your family are '
Native Americans'. You are trying to pass yourself off as a family of pure blooded American stock or some WASP type with blonde hair blue eyed type as if people will believe that crap.
For those that still don't know Sargord: His father is Iranian, his mother is half-Azari and half American. He is latching on to his mother's American side as best as he can when he tries to advocate legitimacy of IR policies from an 'American' point of view.
By his own admnission Sargord Marks' father was initially denied entry to America and it was only his mother's passport which ultimately green lighted his entry to the country. Sorry, Mark but by your own rationale your father was an 'exile' like the best of them.
Sargord is trying to pass himself off as all-American Uncle Sam. Just look at his facial feautures to learn that nothing can be further from the truth.
sargord
by Khar on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:29 PM PSTCharb Kardi as your president AN asked you to today? if you did let me know when to bring the long & hot Barbari. ;-)
Tahgord
by Parthian on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:25 PM PSTYou seem to be well versed in all kind of various "cock" discussions. Care to elaborate on your extensive experience with the mullahcocks? Keep it G rated please.
Mark, the fifth full paragraph
by Anonymous Observer on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:25 PM PSTaddresses the "age out" issue. Read before you speak. Are you drunk again?
BTW, aren't you in your late 40's? What U talking 'bout Willis?
Pure poppycock
by Sargord Pirouz on Mon Dec 20, 2010 03:14 PM PSTFirst of all, if there were a new war, any Iranian-American volunteers for the professional US military would likely be native son Americans (like myself and my family members) and not over-the-hill, cut-and-run type naturalized citizens like yourselves.
So your poppycock post should be addressing younger native sons and not naturalized cut-and-run'ers.
And because our military is a professional force, pretty much most of this poppycock is irrelevant.
My advice is to advocate peace. It's how Iranian-Americans can do the most good, for Americans and Iranians alike. Same applies toward a personal stance during any outbreak of armed conflict: advocate peace.