Why not IRAN?

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Why not IRAN?
by Ben Madadi
01-Feb-2008
 

So, as the usual conspiracy theory goes, I am expecting another check from the Foundation for the Promotion of Zionist Conspiracy to Take Over the World (FPZCTOW) for my 'priceless' contributions to their cause. And to have further contribution, here goes another article about a related matter. I have bills too, you know!

I recently saw an article "Palestine does exist" on Iranian.com about the sad realities of the Palestinian people. The author had showed with all the good intentions of a true human-loving compassionate Iranian, that we are not writing enough about the Palestinian cause and their sorry state of affairs that have been going on for so long. I am not saying and I am not trying to say, by any means, anything bad about the author of that article. Absolutely not!

The article made me think and I looked in to my heart to see what I felt. I did feel something for the Palestinians. Yes, I actually felt… sorry for them. But googling for the word “sorry” in my heart I came across it, but a much, much, much bigger sorry that had overshadowed my sorry for the Palestinians. That sorry was for some people called Iranians. My sorry for Iranians was soooo big, heavy and profound that the little sorry that I felt for the Palestinians was almost completely eclipsed. So that was why I kind of never wrote any article about the cause of the Palestinians. I looked at the sorry, the huge and shadowy and heavy sorry I felt about the Iranians and I saw things written all over it that I was very much familiar with. Some of those things are as follows:

* A people that has sacrificed tens of thousands of its young for the cause of freedom one hundred years ago, and then thirty years ago.

* A people that has sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its young in defence of its values in its war with Saddam.

* A people that despite all the sacrifices has been unfortunate enough not to reach most of its wishes and ideals.

* A people that has ended up so often in the hands of thugs and bandits, among whom some in the 21st century hang people for ‘crimes’ such as adultery or other types of consensual sex.

* A people who despite all their natural resources and valuable human talent and energy suffer from rampant poverty, criminality, drug-abuse and unemployment.

And this really huge sorry was not the only bigger sorry I had in my heart. You know, I am not a hypocrite I guess. I actually accept that I care for my own more than others. Why do I need to feel so sorry for others while my own kind inside Iran have a much worse fate than Palestinians? Palestinians are… how many? Are they 3 million, 4 million? Iranians are probably more than 75 million if we take into account those who are outside Iran too, like me.

Why should I put Palestinians in my priority-list while I really feel sorry for Iranians, especially my own relatives who have no justice and no hope inside their own country? So many Iranians want to leave Iran to pursue their dreams and I understand them perfectly. So, Israelis are kicking the hell out of Palestinians. So what? Why do I care for them while Iranian rulers are kicking the hell out of Iranians inside Iran?

And, let’s get a few things straight! My sorrow for Palestinians is not the biggest sorrow after my sorrow for Iranians. It is further to the back in a waiting list. I should have written for the cause of Darfur - Sudan, Afghanistan and Iraq first. These are places where Muslims kill Muslims so many in a year that Israelis have been unable to kill in more than 5 decades.

But why do we feel so much the Palestinian sorrow, and not the other ones that are far worse? Those that I just mentioned above are much worse than the problem with the Palestinians. There are also many others. Chechens in Russia! Do you ever hear about them and their problems? They are Muslims too. What about sub-Saharan Africa where people die every day in their thousands due to starvation, AIDS and wars. We don't hear about that either.

Palestinians receive so much money, in billions of dollars every year, from the same infidels (also from Muslim states though in smaller sums) they hate, the US and the EU and most of the money is stolen by the same Muslims that the IRI arms, further cutting the chances of ordinary Iranians having the investments they need and deserve inside their own country. You know why we hear so much about Palestinians, and so little about others.

Okay, I'm going to be blunt and cynically honest about this. Because if there was an average Muslim country with an average Muslim ruler, though with Israel's military might, they would have bombarded and annihilated all their enemies (in this case Palestinians, Hezbollah and others around them) within less than a few months, and this would have happened some decades ago, and nobody would remember anything by now. But Israel, though very imperfect, is a much more civilised country than our own Islamic countries.

Yes, truth often hurts. But that is the truth. Israelis try, at least try, to observe some of the values they fought for in their ordeals in Europe and elsewhere. I am not saying that they are okay, all I am saying is that this is the real reason we hear so much about Palestinians and so little about others. Because others are quick and ruthless in their reaction toward their enemies while Israel is not exactly like that. There are also other reasons such as accessibility and propaganda.

The whole Palestinian thing is too much and we are having too much of it. Arab and Muslim states, as we know, do not hesitate to use the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as their scapegoat for their thuggish ruling and political and systemic shortcomings.

Let's stick to our own problems! We have too much of them. I know that I didn't say anything new, so I hope I didn't bore too many people.


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israel yes palestine no!

by Farhad2008 (not verified) on

lol, its funny ! its irans case to care about jews some 2500 yrs ago and make them free but not irans case to support palestine! common! stopp this kind of propoganda,
You cant expect respect from other religions and nations before you respect them. Palestinian are good ppl your propoganda have made them to terrorist because they want back their own land.

Lets consider my selv as a person who dont beleive in semetic-religions ( judasim, christion and islam ). For you it doesnt matter.. i have to accept that israel is Holly land!?? and the promiss land !!?! lol, how can i respect this idea when the whole is totaly wrong and based on fantasy! Your claim is based on Gud and buying israel for jews.. which is not more than a joke! Why gud didnt bought any place for chiness and african, and not even iranian:)! yeah and probnably the Gud said f*** palestinian kill them make them refuge the land is yours:0) ( this gus is very similar to bin ladens gud ..)
You enjoy to keep this situation, war with islam, calling them terrorist .. at the same time you integrate your ppl in the west.

..and about democracy and israel, of course with all support from west they have made a country with good social reform, It doesnt mean that they are our freind of that reason. Powerfull, democratic and strong Iran with religion islam would not be suitable for a country like israel. Democratic muslim & christion wrold would make the question about promiss land & holy land which has no place in democratic world.


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Re: Gilani and Madadi - I much prefer the picture of sexy frizly

by Mola Nasredeen (not verified) on

Dear friends:

I much prefer to put the picture of sexy frily_girl on my desk (top right).
I hope you are not offended if prefer this picture to the picture of Ms. Goldamiere and Mr. Omelet.

Love,

Ghazvin


Ben Madadi

Re: Mort Gilani

by Ben Madadi on

Thanks Mr Gilani! Send me a big picture of yours so I can frame it and put it on my desk ;)


Mort Gilani

Iranian Plight

by Mort Gilani on

Mr. Madadi,

I just want to let you know that I am a big fan of your unbiased writings in Iranian.com.  We are in agreement on everything you noted in above article.  In my view, Israel as an advanced democracy in ME is Iran’s best strategic partner.  I am sure that the shameful propaganda against Israel will be largely removed from Iranian consciousness in the near future even if IR remains in power for another 30 years.


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Pragmatic run a muck

by MehdiNYC (not verified) on

Ben,
If your way of thinking prevails, then why should anyone care about anything that does not affect them directly? This is exactly what makes our world what it is today: apathy. We should care about INJUSTICE everywhere. True, the IRIR is using the issue of Palestine for their own ends, but that should not stop reasonable people around the world (including Iranians) from helping resolve the issue. Think outside of your own interests for once. Would you be writing this article if you were living in Gaza right now?


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RE: Mola Nasradeen

by Bored Iranian dude (not verified) on

I dont think anyone here is despising the palestinian people. Just because you dont support Hamas, IRI or Hezbollah does not say one despises its people they rule. But yes, in general, we should never forget and barely forgive people who have attacked, killed and occupied us before in our past, and we should always be watchfull over them so that they dont do such a stupid fucking mistakes like that again. Its called having historical dignity. Having said that, the only countries that have aided us in our recent destructive war (Iran Iraq) were Syria, China, North-Korea, Libya and Israel. Iranians should always remember those who help and pull closer to them rather than "forgive" the rapists. One should trade, have diplomatic relations and talk with all nations. But only countries that sacrificed their own blood, treasure for our cause should be pulled closer. I fail to see how the palestinians have done that, or the rest of the Arab states. War is the ultimate insult, and the ultimate crime you can conflict on another country.


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Here is a Lebnies Turk. Listenand you will understand

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Zion

Good article.

by Zion on

Very good actually. Honest, to the point and right on target. 

My dera Ben, you do deserve your cheque! ;-)


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Re: Jamshid - Stop Hating

by Mola Nasredeen (not verified) on

Dear friend:

Why do you hate so much?
Why can't you let go of the past?
Can't you forgive them?
They never conquered Iran.
Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Turks, Russians, British, Iraqies, Afghanies, Mongols ... they all fought us and occupied Iran.
Do you hate them all?
Why do hate Palestinians so much?
Is it because you hate Iranian government?
Is it because you are under the influence of the media here?
Really ask yourself these questions.
No Palestinian ever occupied the Iranian land?
No Palestinian ever killed an Iranian?
Are you a Zionist?
Are you an Arian nationalist? If you are then you must hate Greeks even more because they were the first ones who conquered the Persian Empire.
So try to reach deep down and ask yourself these questions.


jamshid

Palastinians betrayed Iran

by jamshid on

After the victory of the revolution, Khomeini promised to help the palestinians. This was one of the few promises he kept. After Yaser Arafat's visit to Iran, Khomeini termendously helped the palestinians financially by pouring Iranian money on them, not just to aid them for political or military reasons, but also for social aids. While Iran was sharing some of his riches with the palestinians, Saddam did not even lift a finger for the same palestinians.

Then Saddam decided to invade Iran. The palestinians did not hesitate, not for one second, to support Saddam against Iran, even while they were still receiving money from Iran.

While Saddam was bombing Iranians and killing them in the front, Felestinians poured into the streets and "rejoiced" the news of each of Saddam's victories against Iran. They actually celebrated Saddam's victories.

But that's not all. The Palestinians even sent volunteers to Iraq to fight against Iranians, in the hopes of appeasing Saddam, in order to get a piece of khuzestan's riches after Saddam's victory, a victory that seemed very much promising in the first year of the war.

In the entire eight years of the war, the Palestinians never stopped supporting Saddam against Iran. At the very least, they could have remained neutral after and while receiving so much money and support from khomeini.

Therefore, The Palestinians betrayed Iran and the Iranian people's goodwill. They are traitors to Iranians.

And now here we find a bunch of sorry pathetic "nokar" who still want to shove the cause of the palestinians after they betrayed Iran. I am not surprised at all since the majority of them have never put Iran's interests first, instead they have put their bankrupt ideologies first, and Iranian interests last.


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Saramaloos

by Jamaleto (not verified) on

Saramaloos ro che konimesh?
bendazim havaa bekonimesh


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Re: annoyingmouse3 - Please Don't Be a Kaseh Doghter as Ash

by mola nasredeen (not verified) on

My friend:

Don't be hating!

Do you want a revolution in Iran?
Go ahead nobody is stopping you?
Get your visa and go there or go through Iraq and start a revolution there.
I'm not even sure if you are of Iranian origin!
Gooz rabti beh Shaghighe nadareh.
Meaning you can defend the Palestinian people human rights and Iranian human rights at the same time.
We don't have to hate Palestinians in order to love Iranians!
What's the use of screaming your head off about the situation in Iran while sitting in your comfortable desk and writing.
As far as the Palestinian issue is concerned we can do something about it. These atrocities is being commited with the help of our tax dollars.
How hard is it to understand?
Maybe you are an agent provacatour for you know who.
I'm sitting here and eating my own osh.


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Hell is Freezing Over!!!

by Vahraz Yazdanmehr (not verified) on

At the risk of hell freezing over, I have to agree with Ben. Iranian issues should come first, spacially because of the fact that Arabs, including Palistinians, have shown time and time again that could not care less about what happens to the people of Iran...but that's a whole different topic.


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I am distracted by the picture of Saramaloos

by mola nasredeen (not verified) on

I am sorry,

But I am distracted by the sexy picture of Saramaloos on the top right hand of this page.
I'm sorry.


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Let's not get distracted by

by Anonymous3 (not verified) on

Let's not get distracted by agent provaceuturs such as Molla Nasrading or Wondering of the IR and disucss Iran's monumental economic and social ills.

Eighty percent of the economy essentially in the hands of the state. As a result, there is no solid cadre of business leaders to pressure the government. The government in IRan does not feel responsible or accountable to the populous because they directly pocket the oil revenues and they don't rely on taxes from the people.

Fundamentalism of all stripes is a toxic mode of thinking, but Shia fundamentalism a la Iran is particularly vicious. The Iranian Ayatollahs and must be defeated. Iran has become one of the most dismally unequal societies in the ME. A small caste of very rich fat uneducated mullahs and their cronies are reducing most of the Iranian people to abject poverty in a country that is immensely wealthy. To cover up for all this greed and corruption, religious fundamentalism is a very effective tool of ideological domination. The more Iran sinks into inequality and social injustice, the more fiery the pseudo revolutionary rhetoric of its theocratic ruling elite, and the more dogmatic and intolerant their version of Islam. Religious fundamentalism is a wonderful tool for diverting attention from all real issues. But it has a limit, and that limit is set by the emergence of people's conscience and desire to get rid of all those blood-sucking parasites passing for "men of spirit".

Iran's current policy in Iraq has been shameful. Instead of helping Iraqis unite, and has callously played with old sectarian grievances in order to draw some benefit for their own shallow cause. What do the Iranian Ayatollahs really stand for? At this moment for nothing more than staying in power and continuing to line their bulging pockets with the money of the Iranian people. Social inequality and poverty rates in Iran are appalling. And if you visit the wealthy neighborhoods of Northern Teheran, you will see conspicuous signs of obscene wealth in the hands of the nouveaux rich that have emerged after the demise of the old parasitic class constituted during the Shah's reign of terror. And if you move to the huge slums in Southern Teheran, you will see abject poverty and destitution. Most Iranians have benefited very little from the new theocratic dictatorship.

Iran, despite its massive oil reserves, the country has very little capacity to produce substances like gasoline and jet fuel. Iran's imports in this area are at about $10 billion a year, a figure that may represent up to a third of all imports. More than 40% live below poverty line and Iran has the highest number of drug addicts in the world....One out of 16 Iranian is a drugh addict...the numbers are probably higher. The high oil revenues have been unprecedent in the entire history but the regular people don't see any improvement in their daily struggle to put food on the table.


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Re: Madadi - We Demand an Honoray Israeli Citizenship For You

by mola nasredeen (not verified) on

Dear friend:

On behalf of all the Stinkers of the world we demand an Honorary citizenship of the great nation of Israel for your and all your comrades who have tireless have fought for establishment of injustice in the world.

PS. We may even be able to get some grants for your to fight for democracy in Iran. how about that?


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palest-isr

by Farhad2008 (not verified) on

Let me ask this question who is making palestine-israel issue on focus ? we all know its not palestinian. What ever israilian does is been in focus world wide. Plastinian doesnt have the resource and network as jews has world wide. Thats why we are hearing alot about palestines. In this case if israel was in a island in eastern Asia then we were hearing about japan & philipine and..every week on news. In that case world never knew anything about palestines.
I know about that nations with power run the world..itve always been like this. but i dont agree israelians propogande to make a unguilty image in media. They are not better than arabs to iranian people.
( Roya where are yyouu dont you want to call me anti simimimitistsm anymore ? ):)


Daryush

This debate is beyond politics

by Daryush on

Although I can easily agree that the entire shebang has become a political masturbation, yet this is more of a humanistic issue, looking through a philosophical lens. The Palestinian issue is an excuse to bring about an ideological issue and a catastrophe. To realize the crimes of a nation building.
I would argue that this is not an Islamic or nationality issue, and if each one of us become actively against this kind of atrocities, be it in Palestine, Iran or Sudan, then you will see that the politicians and governments would at least try not so easily mess with the future of lives of the people.
It’s a humanistic issue that we need to learn and evolve ourselves. This is not to say that Israel has no right to exist, but to say that Israel must recognize publically what she has done, and move forward to unite the people. The suffering of Palestinians is a excuse to portrait a wrong doing of the west. So please keep this idea in mind when you want to comment.
Remember why we need to speak up:


First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.


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Re: Eva jan - You are cute, Mordam as Khandeh

by mola nasredeen (not verified) on

Dear girl friend:

I don't know what is the position of Palestinians on three islands.

But I know Palestinian want Israelies out of their country.

And I know what the majority of Americans want:

they want Palestinians have their own country.

And I know what I want:

I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS TO BE SPENT ON ISRAEL..


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Re: Programmer craig - Long Live Japan

by mola nasredeen (not verified) on

Dear friend I am with you.

Long live Japan,
Long live Japanese seeds,
I drive a Nissan too, although I would have much preferred a Lexus.

As far as Palestinians are concerned I don't konw... maybe they prefer Merceds Benz since they are Arabs.


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Rememberance

by Iva (not verified) on

I can close my eyes and clearly see joyous dancing arab soldiers who were standing over fallen Iranian youth (soldiers). Many of those arab soldiers whom were hired by Saddam came from Palestine ... Yes DAST-HAYE FLESTINIHA BE KHOON-E IRANIYAN AGHESHTAST.
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Those who support Felstine ... can you say where does Palestine stand in regards to 3 islands dispute between Iran and Arab world ... Haven't they sign a petition that calls Iran an occupying force of Arab lands (i.e. put Iran in same bracket of Israel).
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Israel and Arab conflict is not Iran and Israel conflict.


programmer craig

Qute

by programmer craig on

I'm just speaking for myself here, not trying to put words in Ben's mouth:

How do you know what the potential of Palestine would be were it not
under occupation?

Because we know what 300 million non-Palestinian Arabs did with their independence. And Palestine was always the smelly armpit of the Arab world, even back in Roman times.

Or Iran for that matter if it was democratic.

You assume that Iran has the potential to be a democratic country. Evidence?

Maybe
Palestine could have been another Japan

Japan has always been one of the world's Great Powers. Japan was the only country in Asia to retain it's power, influence and independence during the colonial era. Palestinians have no similar history.

 


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Re: Anonymous3, Hala Ghahr Nakon

by Mola Nasredeen (not verified) on

Dear friend:

In what language I should talk to you to understand?

The country we live in is United States.

The tax we pay is to US government (and I'm not complaing about it either)

The victim is Palestinians and not Iranians.

The Occupier is Israel.

The enabler is USA.

Chera hametoon ...sher meegeen?


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mola nasridin: Apparently, I

by Anonymous3 (not verified) on

mola nasridin: Apparently, I shouldn't have engaged in a debate with you because your cognition and comprehension are much lower than I thought. I'll wait until you find something intelligent in the recesses of your white matters.


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Re: Anonymous3 , So Black is White and Blue is Green

by Mola Nasredeen (not verified) on

Any new jokes?


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Israel wants to KILL AND STEAL in peace

by Anonymous12121 (not verified) on

Israel just wants peace - the sort of peace that comes from massacring people and stealing their land. And once their done with thePalestinian, they'll start on everyone else. They want to create a mythical "Greater Israel" and are driven by hatred and racism against non-Jews.

Plain and simple, Israel represents a threat to Iran and humanity. Zionism is the new Nazism.
That's all there is to it.


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Molah Nasredin: Your tone

by Anonymous3 (not verified) on

Molah Nasredin: Your tone reveals your intellectual retardness. Instead of parroting what you read in the lefties newspaper, do your independent research. Political Islam is in the service of Imperialism; hence, Iran is in the service of Imperialsim. The IRI collaborted with the "Imperialist" in Iraq and Afghanistan and continues to make back door deals both with Israel and the US. Please try not to talk...it's embarassing. Reading a repair manual is more informative than your ill-informed and intellectually-challenged bilege.