Blame game

Why do so many people make such a big deal about Jews?


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Blame game
by Ben Madadi
04-Oct-2007
 

Some people in the West (America, Britain and other developed countries) but far too many (even a majority) in other less developed countries, such as Iran, Arab countries, Eastern Europe etc, believe that Jews rule the world. Even Iran's president, Ahmadinejad, in his address to the UN, said that the West is in Zionist hands. I don't recall what he exactly said, word by word, but it was almost the same. He pretty much meant that the Zionists rule America, Britain and so on.

Let's be serious: people say Zionist, or Israeli, just try to be more modern and politically correct, and just refer to the Jews. Why all this fuss and correctness? It's nothing new. Have you read what they used to say in Europe and America in the 1900's? Do you know about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? It was first published in 1903, later translated to many other languages from Russian. Yes, Zion, just like what they call it Zionism now. It was a document "proving" that Jews rule the world.

Go and read it on the Internet. Go to this page first then you can search Google to find articles written by modern anti-Semites even proving that the protocol was genuine and predicting the inevitable etc. It is nothing new. It was published much before the second World War broke out. There were many books or articles published about this issue.

Even in America, where many Iranians believe Jews rule, and ruled, such writings were published and sold quite well. Being anti-Jewish was nothing new. Then they used to call it being anti-Jewish. Now they usually call it being anti-Israeli or anti-Zionism though without directly referring to Israel, but to the same old myth that Jews control the world.

It actually seems extraordinary to be part of a small group, seemingly elite, who rule the world. I have been called an Israeli or a Zionist so many times, though I have repeatedly said that I am not. One angry Iranian actually said that I wish I was Jewish. Maybe, looks interesting. You can have many rich and influential friends. Who cares you are hated as long as you rule the world, right? I would have probably loved it if I was a Jew, ruling the world. Maybe it would be fun? I don't know for sure.

Really, who cares that most of the rest of the world hates you? It is almost like being the owner of a huge factory where you are certain almost all workers hate you. However they respect you because they fear you (you pay them quite well), while some who you haven't hired (like Arabs, Muslim, Latin America, Eastern Europe) hate you so much they are evn willing to kill you. And this is not that much of a fun.

But why is that so? Why are so many people making such a big deal out of such a troubled nation, the Jewish nation (if we can call it a nation). Although Jews are pretty strong (especially rich) and so and so, there is absolutely no proof about all the things said and written exaggerating their power and importance. Iranians say Zionists (Jews) plot against Iran to destroy it. Many in other countries believe similar stories, though in slightly different, locally appropriate, versions.

The richest man in the world is currently an Arab (search on Google world's most powerful man is a non-Jewish, Christian, American. Arabs in the U.A.E. make much more money than Jews in Israel. The Internet is full of anti-Jewish stuff, and Jews seem to be squeezed out all over the virtual world.

There are also some strong points on the Jewish side. America, almost unconditionally supports Israel. This made me think America was ruled by Jews many years ago, so I tried to see what was going on. It is simple. Do you know that most of the American voters, who are NON-Jewish, support Israel? Yes. It is true.

But this is nothing new. America is a democracy and if most of the voters want something then they are going to get it sooner or later. The main reason for their support for Israel is that the American voters are mostly conservative Christians who support God's chosen people and their holy land, also given by God to them. It sounds stupid, but that's democracy. Why has Israel been so powerful? Is it because they somehow mysteriously conspire against their enemies because they rule the world by their Christian proxies?

No. Because Arab regimes are so week and because America (world's superpower) openly (no conspiracy there) helps Israel. It is as simple as that. Don't forget that Jews were no less accused of ruling the world before there was an Israel and 5 or 6 million of them were killed by the Nazis. That's a mess of a ruling class and such an incompetence, right? What a ruling class that is! Even America didn't intervene to stop the killing.

Let's go back to the question itself. Why make such a big deal of these Jews, Zionists etc, and blame them for so much for such a long time? I have no reason to defend Jews. I am writing this because there is a general BLAMING problem. Non-democratic countries (or not-yet-so-democratic countries) and their peoples, even when they are outside, have the mentality of blaming others for their problems. This is the main reasons for all their problems. It is not Jews (or anybody else) who are rich and successful who are plotting or doing harm. It is the belief that they are plotting that causes the problem.

And it is not just about the Jews. This blame disease comprises of all the OTHERS. You don't really know some body, or some people, then you blame them! Jews have been blamed in Europe because they were the only non-Christians who were actually doing quite well. They have been doing well for the last couple of centuries because they have been working hard, and of course, helping each other. Can you blame a group who help each other? You can envy them, but you cannot accuse them of being smart and hard-working. If it wasn't the Jews, others could be found to blame.


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SURE.......Go on fantasizing!

All your psychotic wishful hallucinations won't
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RE: Learn the truth

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Thanks.  I think this paper, written last year by two professors from Harvard and University of Chicago, says it best ...

 

"The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy" ... //ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf   ... (may take a few seconds to download)

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Learn the truth!

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Israel

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Yes Indeed: LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!!!

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RE: ?!?!?!

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Ok shyster boy, with your logic, then we must all move out of the US and allow native Americans to come in.  Then why didn't the jews try to claim back their homes in Germany and the rest of Europe?  Using that logic, they shouldn't have had any problems.  It is a fact that the unfortunate Holocaust actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise for jews as it gave them another excuse to displace Palestinians out of their homes, put them in refugee camps and then move in.  Those jews in Russia knew it too well and their networking with the British certainly paid off.  Take credit for everything, and you deserve it.  But its sad that if you people are ignored one day, if a more recent tragedy suddenly appears to be taking attention from the everpresent Holocaust, you jews will popright back out of your hiding and start making noise.  Even your own have said that the Holocaust, the anti-semit wolf calling has gone too far.  Even Albert Einstein warned us about zionism. 

You got your neocons now running the US govt.  You got your hands into everything, and that's fine ... you certainly worked for it and deserve it .. .but with all of that comes power, and with power there shouldn't at least be this much whining and crying about the fact that you are a jew.  You're a jew, you're a jew.  Congrats.  You've accomplished so much, seriously, congrats.  With all of that, please stop whining.


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To SOB:

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TO DDD

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Jews may have existed before Islam, but that is not the point I was trying to make. What I said was, if there were ever a conflict between Israel and Iran, not one jew would stand on Iran's side. Where as if there were war between Iran and Saudi Arabia or Iraq, all muslims would volunteer. The loyalty of Iranian Jews is to their tribe first not their country. that is why they should be stripped of their citizenship and deported!


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hey ben! to bikhod mikoni az aryai migi vaghti parchame esrael ZIONEt hast male semetic hast na gheire semetic.


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Ben

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ridam too halgheh torkiyeh va jomhuriyeh ahmaq azerbaijan.


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To I Hate Iran: Absolutely

by Anonymousz (not verified) on

To I Hate Iran: Absolutely true. The Palestinian population if anything has increased more than double of what it was 60 years ago. Some genocide, eh?


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To Ben Medadi as well as some of the rude remarks on this site.

by AnonymousE (not verified) on

I'm an Iranian muslim (well spiritual I guess since Islam has not been very good for my nation) and I don't hate jews one bit. Out of curiousity has anyone making these nasty comments seen the television docmentary on Dutch TV about the Jews in Iran?

Finally to Ben Medadi, I've come to the conclusion that when people are ostracized by a society they start to stick together more and work harder and study harder to prove themselves, as a result they become more successful and as a result jealousy and hate arise from other tribes or whatever you may call them. This is my two cents of the anti-semitism in the world.


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ALL YOU PALASTENIAN/ ARAB LOVING IRANIANS ARE FULL OF SHIT

by I HATE IRAN (not verified) on

THE DEATH TOLL OF THE PALESTINIANS IN THE PAST 60 YEARS OF CONFLICT IS AT MOST 15000-20,000 (AT THE HANDS OF THE ZIONISTS- WHICH IS VERY SAD).

ARABS IN IRAQ ALONE HAVE KILLED MORE THAN 100,000 OF EACH OTHER IN THE PAST 5 YEARS.

YOU IRANIANS AND IRAQIS HAVE KILLED OVER A MILLION IN 8 YEARS OF WAR WITH EACH OTHER.

SUDDENLY, WHEN JEWS HAVE THEIR OWN HOMELAND- YOU GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE PALESTINIAN POPULATION THAT IS SUFFERING????

THIS IS CALLED ANTI SEMITISIM. ITS OK FOR MUSLIMS TO KILL EACH OTHER AND TREAT EACH OTHER MUCH MORE BRUTALLY THAN FOR JEWS (YOU SAY ZIONISTS)TO TREAT THE PALESTINIANS THE WAY THEY DO.

IF YOU CARE ABOUT SELF DITERMINATION OF FELLOW MUSLIMS, LETS TALK ABOUT THE KURDS WHO YOU HAVE BEEN FUCKING OVER FOR AGES NOW.

HOW ABOUT OTHER MUSLIMS IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY? LOOK HOW YOU TREAT THE SUNNIS? LOOK HOW YOU TREAT YOUR SELVES WHEN YOU HAD YOUR STUPIED ISLAMIC REVOLUTION.

ITS AMAZING- YOU ARE MORE ARAB THAN THE ARABS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PALESTINIANS AND YOU BLAME EVERYTHING ON ZIONISTS.


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To you "at the end of the day"

by ddd (not verified) on

Please consider this


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uhha!

by ddd (not verified) on

It is very sad that you say this. Iranian Jews love Iran and always have and always will. Do not speak out of Taassob. You do not think that we are Iranian why?? because we are from the Sami race and not Arian???!!! when have we ever betrayed Iran in history?? There are 72 million muslims living in Iran and you can not stand 20,000 jews living there??
Jews were living in Iran long before Islam came around. Have they ever tried to reflect their ideas upon the persians?? were they not the Arabs who killed the Iranian men and stole their women???
whether you want it or not we consider ourselves Iranian. who ever asks me I always tell them that I am an Iranian. 27oo years of living some where gains the citizenship of that country, do not think so??
Very sad


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I can see your point

by Behnaz (not verified) on

Farhad;
I can see your point. Yet we cant see the whole point by judging it from recent years, rather you have to look at it from a bigger picture and be familiar with the history of things. True, True, True Koroush the great (God bless his soul) rescued jews and gave them a safe place to live in Persia. They say the mother of Bahram gor and many other Sasanian kings were jews as well. But Farhad, when have you heard that Iranian Jews have betrayed Iran in this 2500 years of living in Iran. When in the history has it been mentioned that the Iranian people have been bothered by the jews living in Iran. You are right, there has never been a mass killing of jews in Iran. Historically wise though, there has been forced conversion during the Ghajars (Dr Hassan ziaie the professor of Iranian studies at UCLA researched about this).
Now you keep mentioning the money. I myself were born in 1360, right after the revolution, but it seems like not all, but some jews were rich in Iran during the Pahlavis. Do you not think that they must have earned the money themselves. If there were freedom in the Economy many people could earn the money. Is it a big deal only because there were jews!!??
My father was a Uroligist in Iran and three of my other uncles were doctors as well. We lived in Iran 16 years after the revolution and my father treated thusands of his Iranian muslim fellows honestly and with grace. He traveled three times to Ahvaz during the war (he is from Abadan) just to be able to help the wounded soldiers. There is this jewish professor from Hamedan who found a new protien and he called the Hamedan Protien (you can search the web for that).
How can the jews be supportive of a government who constantly yells for the destruction of the jewish state and probably jews. What do you think?? If Israel did not exist what do you think Khomaini or Ahmadinejad would do the jews?? If they could kill many young persian Mojaheds, then would they even hesitate to kill the jews???

please do not over generalize things.
I must admit that I am so glad to have this civilized conversation with you.
I am hoping for a democratic Iran so we all can talk and express our ideas.

I hope that the Iranian government and some of us put out energy and resources towards a free Iran rather try to be the savior of the whole world.

Last year I had a trip to Dubai with my housband (he is muslim). In Dubai there is a street called Abdul Nasser and is a red Zone area. Unfortunately many girls over there speaking persian and that is heart bearking. Lets think about them.

take care
Behnaz


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Iranian Muslim is an oxymoron

by anti-TAZi (not verified) on

You cannot possibly be Iranian and muslims at the same time. Muslims belong to the ummah and will advance only the cause of Islam not Iran. They would destroy Iran and Iranian identity as they have so far at the expense of our beloved Iran. They are traitorous creatin who have benefitted from the goodness of our Irainan heart....

Muslims are petty, vulgar, childish and cruel. They have a pervert as prophet with a religion that actually advocates to kill and enslave nonbelievers. Most people in the modern world find your way of life backwards and barbarous; your culture as loathsome and contemptible. Your ignorance, stupidity and superstition in the 21st century with Imams teaching children to lie and with Arabic/Islamic PhD's writing in their thesis that Jews are descendants of pigs and apes. Funding and supporting terrorism all over the world and inciting hate against West in school-books for small children, distributing a secret Jihad "Noble" Quran make your basic institutions of Islam schools for terrorism and extremism. Any attempt to appease "Muslim opinion" preserves, promotes, and emboldens Muslims. Muslims are disgustingly deferential behavior when you are the underdog and the insane cruelty when you have the upper hand. Muslims learn early in life to be typical cheats and liars and unreliable, arrogant, elitist with false pride. Muslims almost always fail to understand responsibility and consequences of actions always blaming others. Most of the muslim world is the epitome of ignorance, superstition, whining, perversion, lustfulness, racism, misogyny, complaining, envy, intolerance, bigotry, and false honor.


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