Persian Realm

Ok Kadivar

You said in the first line of your last comment that you won't feel comfortable about the hypothetical scenario I described. I merely meant to make you think about it!

Next question:

What about those monarchists who already don't feel comfortable with RP and how he is performing his duties in the current state of emergency? What course of action do they have?

What about "None"? See again what I am trying to tell you about Monarchy?

Rostam I answered You Clearly But did you read ?

Yes !

;0) 

But Feel Free to Burn the Shahnameh:

Burning the Shahnameh by Bahmani

I won't hold it against you ...

;0) 

Kadivar

You gave me an answer that is not related to my original question. Thanks for the time spent answering me, but here, I'll pause the same question again:

Hypothetically, assume that RP passes away and the eldest son of Shapour Ghoamreza becomes the new Shah. In your opinion, is is fair to the people of Iran (even to you) that a completely unknown person, whose behavior, views, loyalties, etc, we don't know at all, suddenly become the king of Iran?

Answer to Rostam

No I don't given that I am a Monarchist First, A Legitimist Second and A Constitutionalist third. ;0)

A Question of Priority if you will ...

But I can fully understand that fellow compatriots can see and define their priorities the otherway round.

As long as the final outcome is preserved :

ROYAL RHINOPLASTY: Stephen Fry On The Imperfections of the Monarchy and Why It Should Be Preserved 

LOL 

The Monarchy is not a cult oriented system of government but it is a an Oligarchy system that believes in Continuity of the Royal bloodline.

The concept of "blue blood" which is wrongly assimilated to racism by those who don't like the concept of the monarchy ( and it is their right as well as yours) is nothing else but a guarantee that the continuity of the historical bond with the Dynasty's founder. 

The Monarchy is neither an egalitarian system nor a democratic one, it never claimed to be. It is only Benevolently democratic because overtime democracy became fashionable and seen as one of the essential and necessary ingredients to a nation's well being and a people's happiness. The Role of the Monarch is to live up to that expectation while not entirely relinquishing it's prerogatives aimed at being the embodiment of the Nation's unity.

British Democracy or what we consider as it's Parliamentary system of government was not established on  principles of democracy but religious tolerance due to the excesses of Cromwell who established a Theocracy just like Iran and went much further than Khomeiny by even beheading the Monarch. Yet the British decided to Restore the former Monarch's son as new king, the point of which Parliamentary Democracy genuinely took root. All the Democratic Ideals inherited from the so called "Greek" Tradition were hence implemented in what became known as the Bill of Rights:

RESTORATION: Britain's 'Glorious Revolution' of 1688 and the 'Bill of Rights'

Everything else from Human Rights, Democracy, social justice and all other similar aspirations which the French Established after a bloody revolution were achieved in Great Britain decades earlier not because they were anymore democact but PRACTICAL. The Restoration of the Monarchy merely crystallized much of the republican demands that the British people shared with the Enlightement Philosophers they admired:

GOOD READ: All You Need to Know About The Enlightment Philosophers

HISTORY OF IDEAS: Ian Davidson on Voltaire's "English Exile" 

It does not change the fact that the British Democracy is as democratic and probably even more tolerant ( notably towards minorities and racial groups) than France where we see the resurgence of racist groups and parties.

And Yet the Queen of England is nothing short of a Vellayateh Fagih since she is also head of the Anglican Church. Something that the King of Spain or Belgium ( the constitution of which inspired that of Iran) are not since they have a Catholic tradition.

HISTORY FORUM: How Truly Democratic is The British Monarchy ?

HISTORY FORUM:The Monarchy with David Starkey (Cambridge University)

But then Nobody and no system of government is Perfect:

ROYAL RHINOPLASTY: Stephen Fry On The Imperfections of the Monarchy and Why It Should Be Preserved

No More than a Republic which seems to have your preference:

Republic VS Monarchy In Style ... 

Which also seems to be the preference of your Jomhurykhah likeminds: 

GALLOWAY's REPUBLIC: George Galloway on the Decline of the British Monarchy

RESTORATION: Prince Charles, The Meddling Prince (5 Parts)

Best,

DK

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Food for Thought: Recommended Watching 

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Another interesting Take on the same topic from the view point of an Intellectual Bijan Abdolkarimi in Iran today and his take on the differences between the British Glorious Revolution (of 1688 and the British Restoration) which led to a Parliamentary System as opposed to the French Secular Revolution of 1789:

PS: Except the scholar makes a mistake by claiming that Charles Ist was not beheaded but replaced by his daughter. I suppose he confused Queen Elizabeth Ist ( who succeeded to King Henry VIII, the latter having failed to have a son) with Charles II who was restored on the throne a few years after Cromwells death.

Or was he thinking and or secretly hoping the same destiny for Crown Prince Reza's eldest daughter Noor ? ;0)

Hee Hee ...  

Kadivar

Thank you for the detailed answer. To be honest, I had a hunch that next in line (in case of RP's death or incapcitation) would be the Shah's brother's children.

Which brings me to the next question:

Hypothetically, assume that RP passes away and the eldest son of Shapour Ghoamreza becomes the new Shah. In your opinion, is is fair to the people of Iran (even to you) that a completely unknown person, whose behavior, views, loyalties, etc, we don't know at all, suddenly become the king of Iran?

Another failure of the Monarchy system? Wouldn't you agree?

Daneshjoo

Daneshjoo

Answer to Rostam

Thank you for your question. The Iranian Constitution of 1906 itself drafted or at least largely inspired by the Belgian Constitution :

ROYALTY: Belgian King State Visit to Iran 1960's 

of the time demands a male heir to the Throne, hence the next in line to the peacock throne in case of an unfortunate death or demise of the current head of the Royal family would be the son of one of the Shah's brothers. The only brother still alive being him:

ROYALTY: Spain Greets Iran's Prince Gholam Reza and spouse Manjineh (1978)

I believe Prince Gholam Reza Pahlavi has two sons

Official site of His Imperial Highness Prince Gholam-Reza Pahlavi. 

They would therefore come first in line of succession to let's say the sons of other members of the Royal family like the Son of the Shah's sister Chams who lives in London I think or other male cousins to the current Crown Prince. At one time Prince ali Patrick Pahlavi was considered as potential heir when the Shah could not have children with Soraya but he was dismissed with Prince Reza's Birth which made him a staunch opponent to the Monarchy subsequently.

Yet Most Current Royal families in Europe follow  Salic Law which also demand a male heir to the throne.

However this has largely been slightly modified over the years thanks to the amendments which can be brought to a given constitution through perfectly democratic means but only upon the suggestion of the Royal Family.

Even in Constitutional Monarchies like Spain, England, or Sweden the Royal head of state enjoys a few limited powers known as royal prerogatives. These prerogatives are not immense but give the Monarch a certain leverage when it comes to the dynastic future of the dynasty. One being the right to choose a heir.

HISTORY FORUM: How Truly Democratic is The British Monarchy ?

New Rules Set for the British Monarchy and it's Constitution:

In Sweden the Constitution also demanded a male heir until the current King asked Parliament to Ammend the Constitution in 1978 allowing her eldest Daughter Princess Victoria to succeed him upon death or abdication:

Persian Carpet Gift to Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria and Husband

I believe this is what the current head of the Royal Pahlavi Family hopes to achieve with his eldest daughter as future heir if ever the Monarchy were to be restored in Iran.

Crown Prince Reza's own Mother actually was named Regent by the Shah by an amendment added to the constitution I believe in 1976 or 77 and the Queen held that position for a few months upon the Shah's death in Cairo and before the Crown Prince's official Oath as "Roi de Jure" aka "King apparent" which is the term used when the heir in exile takes oath as King in the abscence of a parliament or a vacuum of Power.

As such if the 1906 Constitution were to be restored The Crown Prince would be reinstated as King immediately but the ceremonial attributes would have to be endorsed in front of an Oath in Parliament :

Like King Baudouin Did upon succession to his own unpopular father:

RESTORATION: Belgium King Baudouin takes Oath Amidst Republican Animosity (31st July ,1950)

King Baudouin of Belgium takes Oath as King before the Parliament Amidst Republican Opposition ( Someone cries out Vive La Republique aka Long Live the Republic):

Or More likely Juan Carlos in 1975:

ROYALTY: Crown Prince Reza & King Juan Carlos of Spain

HISTORY FORUM: Franco's Ghost- Spain's Painful Road Towards National Reconciliation

Juan Carlos takes Oath in Parliament as King 1975:

So to answer your question under the current circumstances the Crown Prince of Iran Reza Pahlavi can only be succeeded by Gholam Reza Pahlavi or one of his sons.

Had Prince Ali Reza been still alive he would have been indeed considered as second in line to the Throne.

Hope this answers to your question.

Best,

DK

Related blogs:

Related pictory Spain - Iran:

ROYAL CURTSY: Iran's Royal Family At Spain's Crown Prince's Wedding (2004)

pictory: Spanish Royals at Golestan Palace (1975) 
 

ROYALTY: King Juan Carlos of Spain Greeted by Shahbanou at Sa'ad Abad Palace State Dinner (1978)

pictory:King of Spain State Visit to Imperial Iran (1976)

Royalty: Farah and Sophia at Niavaran (1976)

pictory: Shah and King Juan Carlos Share a Laugh, Tehran (1975)

Question from Mr. Monarchist, Kadivar

I am wondering why more people are not asking this question: With the passing away of Alireza Pahlavi, if Reza Pahlavi dies or becomes incapacitated, who would be the new monarch? I am seeking an answer based on the pre-revolution's law/constitution.

I know it won't be Farahnaz, as the old constitution does not allow a woman to be the monarch. But that's where my knowledge stops. Any idea? Is it any surviving brother of Mohamad Reza? If there is no such surviving brother, then who?

You seem to be the right person to ask.

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Daneshjoo

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Daneshjoo

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