کاسه داغ تر از آش

ضرب المثل هفتم و هشتم


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کاسه داغ تر از آش
by Troneg
25-Feb-2008
 

خواهی نشوی رسوا همرنگ جماعت شو: ما ایرانیان اولین کسانی بودیم که این ضرب المثل را عمل کردیم. این داستان را یک هندی برایم تعریف کرد: بعد از حمله اعراب اولین مهاجران ایرانی به هند رفتند. اول استقبال خوبی دریافت نکردند.

یک گروه برای مذاکره پیش هندیان رفتند. گفتند ما با صلح و دوستی آمدهیم. هندیها گفتند تعداد زیاد و تفاوت فرهنگی شما جامعه ما را متزلزل خواهد کرد. رهبر ایرانیان یک قند را در چائی انداخت و گفت ما مثل این قند در جامعه شما حل میشویم.

و همچنان که امروز پارسیان موفقترین اقلیتها درهند هستند.

قرنها گذشت و ما در این مورد پیشرفت کردیم. با اعراب حل شدنمان شروع شد و با مغولا، ترکان، افغانها، روسها و فرنگیها ادامه پیدا کرد تا رسییدیم به امروز که نمیتوانیم هویت خود را پیدا کنیم.

در خارج یکسری بزور میگویند ایرانی هستند ودر ایران یکسری بزور نماز میخوانند.

اگر "پیشرفتمان" به همین خلاصه میشد که خوب بود ! به مرور زمان خیلیها شدند : "کاسه داغتر از آش"

این اشخاص در خارج میگویند باید رفت ایران را بمباران کرد!! در داخل از ملاها اسلامی تر و خرافاتی تر هستند.

همین اشخاص بودند که شاه را کردند شاهنشاه ، خمینی را کردند امام و دارند احمدی نژاد را میکنند هیتلر!

ای مردم ما از اول راه را اشتباه رفتیم. باید رسوا بشویم تا خودمان باشیم با خوبیها وبدیهایمان!

فقط به این طریق است که میتوانیم هویت خود را دوباره بسازیم و حفظ کنیم. بیائید دور هم جمع شویم و انجمن ایرانیان رسوا را بسازیم.

زنده باد انجمن ایرانیان رسوا : ا-ا-ر

کسانی که میخواهند عضو شوند لطفآ با یک پیغام به این نوشته خود را رسوا کنند. چون یک ناشناس (Annonymous) نمیتواند رسوا شود نمیتوانیم عضویتشان را قبول کنیم.


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Shahram

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I visited your site, it is beautiful. Why you hide the URL behind the name ?! //www.artwanted.com/artist.cfm?artid=37283

You should create an account in Iranian.com and make known your calligraphie in it.

I should say, I didn't undrestand exactly your point in your comment immediatly but now I start a little bit.

My prefered are :
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Biaa taa gol bar afshaaneemo may dar saaghar andaazeem....

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Haafezaa may khoro, rendee kono, khosh baash valee,
Daameh tazveer makon chon degaraan Ghoraan raa !!

Is Chattanooga Restaurant is still there? in North Pahlavee street? Is there any Tehraani accent left? or everybody sounds like they just arrived from a village in the middle of nowhere!! Bojnoord??

I've heard poor Afgan gipceis (Refugees) claim they are from mashhad or other cities in Khoraasaan and its working!!

If you were NOT able to visit my website!! Consider yourself a PRISONER!! try to get a life. I'll help you.

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To Farhad : Making Clear

by Troneg on

I dont know what will become after this regime but I try to point our failing to try improving ourself.

Our problem is that we have many opportunists in Iran. People how follow the wind just for food and money and don't care about country or any believes.

Every body talk about American Coup d'Etat against Mosadegh. Ok Americans paied some "Lat" to cry against Mosadegh and push for Shah BUT NOBODY ASK WHY PEOPLE FOLOWED THEM ?! My grand father told me he saw the same guy change the side over night !

And talking about "Islamic Revelotion". I've been there, it was more a coup d'etat than revolution. As soon as Khomeini seemed be the guy how govern the country, people change their mind and become Islamist and they called him IMAM. 

When Iranians love their country more than CheloKababe, may be we will have a chance.

I hope my purpos is clearer now ?


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To Bahram : Life is inconsistent

by Troneg on

Nothing is completly white or Black. reffering to Parsis and even today everybody should integrate himself without forgetting where he is coming from. It is a question where you put the cursor. It is not the only point of my words.

Me too, I take Iran Air to make tourisme in Iran. Tourisme and living in the country is not the same thing.

You are free to live where you want and say what you want because you are living in west. Other Iranians don't have this luck. Not being able to say what you think is a tortur for many of them.

 


Bahram the Iranian

you are inconsistent

by Bahram the Iranian on

the example u used to make your point, reffering to parsis in India, so I didnt realy get ,they did good or bad by integrating themselves in the new country???is it their achievment or another example of hypochrasiy??

Iran Air is my carrer of choice It has the best piolt and food, last time I was on the board of one was last oct, hopefuly the next time is apporaching very fast, however unlike many others I didnt get my residency in the west by false claim of being tortued or prosecuted, I didnt abuse my country for my personal gain.I support myself and I need no one to tell me where to live.


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Your point taken though you have not made it very clear

by Farhad Radmehrian (not verified) on

I think I understand what you are sayiong here although you are not making a clear point.

My opinion is also similar. Kerm az khode derakhte. Eibe asli az khodemoone. Unless and until we have a cultural revolution amongst the people of Iran, things will not improve in our motherland!

The regimes that come and go only represent the quality of people from whom they come!

Unless people come to an important self criticism and realization, the regime that follows this one, may indeed be even worse!!!


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love yourself makes u love other

by Luciferous (not verified) on

kose sher
by Anonymous111111 (not verified) on Mon Feb 25, 2008 07:38 PM CST

martike chera kose sher migi, website majani peyda kardi
* MAY BE, but also MAY BE he believes in :
خواهی نشوی رسوا همرنگ جماعت شو!
and does the same as all other blogers of "IRANIAN" does.

By the way: Could خواهی نشوی رسوا همرنگ جماعت شو also mean eventualy: ACCEPT the MAJORITY? just a simple Question.


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Thanks Jamaleto

by Troneg on

Westerners say : In Rome do like Rmans. They didn't say become a roman ! It is what we do.


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The worst saying

by Jamaleto (not verified) on

The worst saying among the Iranians is:
خواهی نشوی رسوا همرنگ جماعت شو

It's dumb and we should dump it.


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To Bahram the Iranian

by Troneg on

Don't worry, I love my self ;-) and my country.

I enjoy my western life and as I love my country. I would like all Iranian enjoy the same life. So I try improve ourself as who as I can.

Someday an Iranian told to an European: 2500 years ago, when we were an Empire you were living in the forest and been savage. European replied : It is true, since We made a civilisation and made progress our country and our life and you what did you do for your country?

It is strange to live in west and say everything is good in Iran and dont need to be changed. So why we are so numerous abroad ? if it is no problem the solution is : Iran Air.

 


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To Beware

by Troneg on

Yes I agree , when I say with Arabe and after others we lost our identiy. It is beacuse of us. At each time we didn't fight to stay ourself. We announce the Kalif, Monghol or Turk our King and tried to learn his language and some how reduce his "savagerie" thru us. somewher a hidden ressistence but mixing up with something coming to us by force.

We never resisted directly and it is our fault. Az Mast ke bar Mast.

I dont mean we should stop accepting other culture or deny our past and go to a somehow "pure Persian". Today Persian is became a multicultural so we should use the positive side and be proud of it.

Since now I'd like we accepte other cultures proudly without denying ours. Like Japenease or Chinese they could be good examples.


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Beware of the old colonialist trick!

by Beware! (not verified) on

The colonialists want us to believe that the source of all our problems are Arabs. They started to enforce that ideology with Reza Khan.

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Very accurate, brief and

by Kamangir on

Very accurate, brief and realistic article. We Iranians lost our real identity by force, having to start from scratch time and time again. The fact is our 'Shahnameh' was considered our history until known and dedicated Western scholars and historians came to Iran and sort of created the puzzle that we now know. However, It's been some 10 years I've paid close attention to the fact that there's a silent period of which almost nothing is know or said. That gap of some 200 years (following the fall of our Sassanid ancestors) hasn't been much documented. There were large number of Arab tribes relocated and re-stablished all over Persian lands. This was a deep blow to Iran's future as not only the ethnic structure of Iran changed, but the fact is that since then Iran is in a duality anyone can notice, which deep inside isn't but the Persian Arab essence never getting along. What we see in Iran nowadays is simply the Arab entity trying to impose itself on the Persian soul of Iran. The Moghol attacks also had a very devastating effect on Iran. Iran is a country with several and multiple personalties in contrast among themselves. Iran can only be Iran, if its real and true identity (Persian) is restablished by reviving the pure Persian language as well as the true history of Iran (not the tribal crap of Arabia)

Iran is maturing up the very hard way

 

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love yourself makes u love other

by Bahram the Iranian on

u must be pretty desperet and out of luck, are u having a tough life?I see, getting out of Iran and living in your western paradise hasnt helped u to enjoy your life. u hate what u stand for????since u had a suggestion for me, let me pay u back, stop watching that stupid animation, stop listening to western propaganda. maybe after a while u can start loving yourself which is healty.


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زدی تو خال

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آی زدی تو خال ترونگ! دمت جوش و لکن کو گوش شنوا!
گل گفتی و لکن کمی شل گفتی! دلم به حال این ملت میسوزه که یکی خودشو ایرونی میدونه و از خارجی ها خارجی تر میشه و چیزایی که اونا جراءت ندارن مستقیم بگن این نادون نامرد علنا میگه...

آی آی زمونه ... از دستت به کی بنالم؟..