Anyway

IRI supporters copme out of closet

Stop hiding under fake identities and fake names.

reveal your true self and your allegiance to IRI:

I know a few here on this site:

Q, Ajam, Annonymous8, YT, IranDokht (IRI wannabe, she can't she is women) and Anonym 7

Now when you ar at the mosque this Friday come up with a solution to flee the country, like hmmm Pakistan or UAE.

Find out from your handlers where is ore appropriate destination for you since you are been monitored by FBI.

Anonymous 8 you are realy an IRI supporter

You have proven your allegiance to IRI

provide web sites or pictures for those universities or some kind of an evidence then I will admit my lie.

Go kiss the Akhunds hand and say your Friday prayer by standing behind them.

Since you are such a devout Islamic and IRI supporter I recommend Friday Prayer in Gazvin specially for you.

Pray to your Imam make sure you stay from the Akhunds they are pedophiles.

KouroshS aka Q

do you deny that you are Anonym7 to?

Amazing

How all the leftists, Islamists, open and in closet IRI supporters, all the foam im mouth anti-semites and anti-Zionists and anti-whatever those who brag about a nuclear Iran, recently even an Iran with nukes, those who only whine about American Imperialism... are all crawling out of the woodwork to announce what patriotic "Americans" they have all become. Talk about digging the dirt!
The circus is at full play. :-D

Mehrdad, Thanks my friend. Greatly appreciated.

And we Know You can't read.

Can't stand seeing your fellow iranians being proud of their successes and acheivements In their new country, can you? You Just have to take the immoral approach of calling them some names and labelling them.

Pick a name, like the rest of us, for the love of god, you... i don't know... anti-islam, iri, and so many other things.

Anonymous^2

Boro baba to ham delet khosheh :D)

teflak Rosie Jwish, in vasat che gonahi dareh ?

Hajiagha ye bichare ham ke hatta nemitoneh harf yomiasho bezaneh, ghorbounet beram.........lol

we know your islamist tricks

Kourosh = Anonym7 = Q,
Anonymous8 = YT = Mammad,
Irandokht = Souri = Rosie, hateBush = hajiagha, neubauer = JJ

Oh my god! This is way past

Oh my god!

This is way past being judgemental AW. No, seriously. You are so very much frustrated and this is a way for you to take this anger out. I consider your comments as INSULTS. Okay? that is just me and i don't know about how everyone else thinks or feels sabout it.
IT is not about paying taxes and taking the oath. it is MUCH MORE than that. It is the way i LOVE this country and its People and how i HELP them out, directly in their lives whenever i can. To make things better for them. I VOLUNTEER all the time, I GET INVOLVED in matters that i know would help someone in needs MORE than most SELFISH americans or iranians for that matter. DO YOU CARE? DO YOU SEE WHAT I DO? i don't think so:)) so safe to say that yOu are making a bunch of assumptions that happen to be SO BASELESS:)))

YES. I DO think that most immigrants, behave in much more civilized manners than MOST if not ALL Americans. In fact, I KNOW SO and I Belive it:) and NO my dearest, I was a teenager when i was in IRI had just taken power and spent MY ADULTHOOD years,
In america. SO I Learned it Here, ALL OF IT:) That was such a cheap shot American wife. I thought so much more of you inall this time with all the exchanges. Un..f..believable:))

Your being grateful that you are not being stoned by me or someone like me , is just part of your paranoia. for someone who watches CNN and pretends that she is a liberal I am so astonished that you even say something like this. You can keep your skirts on, and don't worry, It probably makes you look a lot better. (holy sh... now she is gonna think i am a pervert.. damn)

YEs. I speak better than the most, and WITH A BETTER AND UNDERSTANDABLE ACCENT , and Yes All of that is so wonderful for america and americans WHO have to be on constant look out for GANGS or someone with a gunin every street corner or in any Business establishement, Gangs formed By whites and blacks or
people have to watch and make sure That someone next to them in a shopping mall or on the bus would not pull out a freaking gun on them and rip them apart or rape the heck out of them. THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE SCARED ABOUT MY FRIEND.

OH don't be bitter AW. Your own leaders and CEO's and public officials are the one who are reallly giving you a taste of Your cherished democracy.
Many immigrants are observing and learing and taking notes
Democracy is not a commodity that you can keep and claim that is yours or someone Gave it to you. It is all the values that makes a country such as USA and Others great.
Yeah. You are so welcome. Hope you learn SOON how to live in a democratic country with people who don't mean you Any harm. Actually , I hope you can LEARN THE DIFFERENCE. I am loyal and will always be.

antiIRI, you are a liar

I think you can't even remember your own lies anymore. You said there are no Universities in those Ostans (lie). You wrote none has been built since the revolution (lie). You wrote Azad does not count (lie), but there are other universities too. I dont' think Azad is too expensive for Iranians. 1.3 Million people go to it every year. There are waiting lists for every one of them and there is financial aid for the poor. None should believe anything you say because You are a coward AND a liar.

very disappointed in Iraqis

He threw two shoes. That's not nearly enough.

This is how it's done in Canada.

If I was there, I would have thrown a pie. At least, he should have thrown a spit. He was almost close enough.

Screw Bush and all the US warmongers. May they rot in hell for their crimes.

LOL Indeed

All of this coming from someone who earlier said:

'I hugely support what this guy[shoe thrower] did... More power to him.'

You are right. I am not asking for any advice.

To American Wife

No, Americans are not the joke. Your ARROGANCE in giving yourself the right to determine who is American and who is not is the joke.

Another joke is your test of loyalty- whether someone would go to war for America. The true test of loyalty in such a case is whether you would THINK FIRST as a citizen whether or not the war was absolutely necessary as opposed to just following the orders of your president, vice president, and their gang. And here is what I would do- if America is ever attacked I would go to war to defend it (if I were military age I would fight, and if not I would give other support), and wholeheartedly support such a war. But I will NEVER go to war that is illegal and not in self defense and waged on defenseless civilians. The Iraq war is a violation of international law, is NOT self defense, and is actually a crime. A war against Iran without Iran provoking first by attacking American soil would be the same. The real test is how much are you willing to stand up to your own government when you see it is misleading your country down the wrong path?

So yes, I am Iranian AND American, and proud of it. If that is too much for you to fathom, tough. But you are NOBODY to deny me my identity and my beliefs. That is what America is all about.

If you think that is a joke, you have a serious problem.

-FAIR

American Wife- In Zion's Defense

I understand your points regarding Zion and in all honesty she can use being a little more diplomatic at times. However, there are some people Like Q, and others (that i'd rather not name) who you simply can not have a meaningful conversation with. You have to let them have it because they are here only to spread their agendas and tell you that you are stupid, racist and anti Iranian.

Also, as one of the only open Zionists, supporters of Israel and Jewish causes on this site, people attack her simply because of her ethnicity and background. There is an Iranian rage against Zionists because of 30 years of brainwashing, the Palestinian issue and pure jealousy of Israels success in being able to put pressure on the Islamic Republic.

Zion, I agree with AW

And follow her to add the fact that even for the third party, (the readers like myself) who is only reading both parties to learn from their ideas, it is always easier to understand and rely on someone who keep cool, someone who act respectfully, to express their idea. Being polite never diminish the weight of your point, on the contrary, it add more to your value.

respectfully,

LOL

Sorry... can't help it.  "I didn't start it".  Honestly... is THAT your justification?  Listen I'm not trying to be argumentive with you.  And clearly you're not asking for any advice.  But I just don't see how you feel you're presenting ANY views OR debating anything.  I don't see opinions expressed... I see condescending comments.  For example, your "second class" comment.  How fair is that?  Calling someone second class because they disagree with you?  What up girl?  Engage in meaningful debate?  A dream come true.  Show me one meaningful debate with someone (someone who disagreed with you, not your buddies).  I'm sitting here thinking... I don't agree with Bijan on a whole lot... but I absolutely consider him a peer.  Someone who's opinion I respect because he represents himself with respect and honor.  HE is the sort that is going to encourage me to have an open mind on a subject... not someone who calls me names or insults me.  

EVERYONE cares what someone else thinks of them.  As well you should.  You want to be respected... act respectful.  At some point you need to look at what your GOAL is and act accordingly.  If your goal is to educate... educate with respect.  If your goal is to make enemies... then treat them like shit. 

Easy enough.

Freedom of shoepression

If this idiot is called a journalist and now even a hero, we need to change
the true meaning of those words in dictionary.

Its sad that we have been reduced to defending, justify and celebrating shoe bombers
and shoe throwers instead of proper forms of expression ...

Opposing one extremism with another will not get us anywhere... From a
distance they both are the same ....and all that those who defend one or another
do is to fuel the fires, the bombs (from the sky or hidden in backpacks) ...and
the aggressions on all sides ....

We used to respect journalists'' pens and cameras and now we clap at their
disgraceful shoes

Shame

AW

I've heard Dyslexia called all sorts of things, there is even a school of thought that does not consider it real. Anyways, it is possible to function despite it, whatever way you want to call it.

Regarding the other points, well there are so many cases I restrain myself :-) to react, the ones here are the few I couldn't help. I guess I could have gotten another registered name to expose my other side, but I'm fine with this one.
[In your particular case, I'm only reacting my dear. You can go back and see who started it. ;-)]

As for the likes of Q, well this is deliberate. It is one of the reasons why I am here. I'm testing my idea. Turn the other cheek is nice in words, but as I said before, the particular challenge of our age is similar to that of replicators. I am not a representative of the the "other side" here. I present my views and engage in meaningful debate with people of integrity and intelligence. Yet there is this second class that has nothing worthwhile to say, the nonsense it promotes is paper thin and easy to debunk, but just like a replicator it can dominate a space by mere repetition. IMO this is the main challenge today. One has to debunk them repeatedly, over and over again to break the back of the monster. It's like mythology, never ends. You just have to keep exposing what is inside over and over. I do it here as an exercise actually. What my image would look like to "others" is of no consequence. .

americanwife

Why are you apologizing? why?

What you said is 100% correct? and I am not offended at all.

You are right if they don't like it they should pack and go home.

Second, these are IRI supporters, who are trying to change the whole world. These are the same people that see the world i the eyes of Islamic Republic of Iran.

Your husband, and I and million other Iranians have fled our country because of these bullies and dictators and million others are suffering inside of Iran because of them.

So, please don't apologize to them.

Thank you

YT Reality Check

You do that all the time, you twist things around. You do it i other blogs as well as with other people.

Listen let us be honest you do support IRI and you are an IRI sup[porter and don't try to go from one side to the other side.

In every blog you have defended their actions and their crime against Iranian people.

Now you are pretending you are defending the Iraqi people.

Come out of closet is 21st century, and by the way you are behind your computer what are you afraid, just admit you are an IRI supporter.

Take care and good luck

American Wife

I remmeber last week you posting a comment about me and saying [ keep your sense of hummer, you will need it in Iranian.com]

Although I myself am guilty of responding to some of these baseless name calling, but I see so much frustrations in your writings, rightfully too.

Unfortunately, no matter how Americanized some of us might claim to have become(NO PUNT INTENDED TOWARD ANYONE), but you have to keep one thing in mind, and that is, CULTURALLY speaking, some of US Iranian decent can not take opposition to our opinions very gracefully. Couple that with lack of knowledge and a pinch of arrogance.....wwwallaaaaa you have cheap tricks and name calling and defamation tactics.

I do enjoy your posts, although I might not agree with some of them, but they give me a different perspectives on the issues.

Keep it up and don't let it get under your skin.

Have a wonderful evening
-YT

Kaveh

There was an article in POLITICO.COM which they were playing the scenario of the TRAIL and possible outcome/reaction of Mr. Bush.

Deal is that constitutionally, President can pardon anyone for any crime, no questions asked. Question is though, can Mr. Bush pardon HIMSELF?

There hasn't been any legal precedent to this scenario, although constitution is vague on this subject(according to the argument in POLITICO) BUT, possibility is that if this case was brought to the court, and IF it is before Jan. 22, 2009, then Mr. Bush can pardon Mr. Chaney, then resign immediately afterward hence making Mr. Chaney President, even if it is for ONE single minute. That way new President(Chaney) can pardon Mr. Bush and rest of the gang. I shall find the original article for you to see.

And of course, the possible conviction would be up to jury. I am a true believer in due process.

-YT

IranDokht you are doing it again

You keep proving you are an IRI supporter:

Here is what you say again:

"That assumption was just as baseless as the rest of the labels you try to stick on me. Please do fix that resume andget a real job, harassing me doesn't pay well! "

Fix my resume and get a real job.

My real job is Iranian.com and exposing IRI supporters and hypocrites who live in this country and taking advantage of the freedom and the peace provided to them, fought by 200 years of American young men and women and you and your fellow hypocrites come here and try to criticize them.

You should first do a reality check and figure out what you want. You pretend to be humanist but then you defend IRI, that is an oxymoron.

You criticize Bush and compare it to Khamenei. That is like comparing diamond to copper.

As far as I remember they were rallies on the streets of all major cities in USA against the Iraq war and Bush and no one was sent to execution. In contrast in Iran people die as soon as they protest against the government.

Iraqis are lucky they had USA come to free them. Believe me they are going to thrive so fast in a decade or so they will be competing with UAE, and we are still begging the Arab countries or sympathize with them.

Keep sympathizing with the Palestinian and Arab causes. Good Luck

Reality check

It is sadly astonishing to see how many still approve invasion of Iraq(22%), while Bin-Laden was in Afghanistan, and still is and getting stronger as we speak.

//www.csmonitor.com/2008/1217/p10s01-woeu.htm...

More disturbing is the fact, when one disagrees with US invasion of Iraq is automatically called Saddam Lover and IRI Huger.

What does it take for people to see how stupid this war has been, and what kind of morons started the war, namely Mr's Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, and CIA operative.

Is Mr. Bush as stupid as Mr. Ahmadinejad, You bet your booty he is. only difference is Mr. Bush is bit more eye appealing.

-YT

to each or to all...

I knew I'd upset some people.  That's cool.  There certainly isn't any shortage of THAT going around.

Zion.  Dsylexia is not a disease to be controlled. It's a learning disability to be modified.  I spent too many hours in IEP meetings and meetings with resource teachers discussing various ways to help my son.  His IQ is high and he's a bright and wonderful young man.  To see him struggle with reading and writing broke my heart.  I am and will be eternally grateful to the hardworking and underpaid Resource personnel who helped him along the way.  It is a disability that will last his entire lifetime.  He has learned to modify. 

You know... I think you're your own worst enemy.  I have more sympathies with your political/religious views than the majority here.  Which is not to say I'm an expert on the subject or that I know what's best.  You defeat your purpose when you purposely try to insult so many people.  I know. You'll say you don't care, blah blah blah.  But you should.  You're in the best position to present the "other" side.  But when you indulge yourself in the name calling and insulting, you reduce yourself to their level.  Something about "turn the other cheek" ring a bell?  You insult a dear dear friend of mine whenever you get a chance.  You insult ME when you get a chance.  I know my IQ is easily sufficient to contribute to dialog on IC.  Making comments about the lack of it just makes you look silly because it's sooooo irrelevant and childish.  Responding to Q with the same old nonsense is a waste of your and everyone else's time.  You're too smart to play those games.  Make your cause a serious one.  Take YOURSELF seriously and someone else might as well.  I'm sure this comes off as a lecture and I'm sorry.  But I'm pissed off today and I might as well just have my say.

Azarin.  Bless you.  I never expected a single kind or understanding response. I appreciate that you understand the difference between my making comments about things that bother me and being judgemental.

Someone points out, correctly, that Bush is not the sole reason for all the ills in the world and he's suddenly a Bush supporter.  SO JUDGEMENTAL.  I hate Bush with a passion and I think he was a shitty president but it's ridiculous to say he (one man... a single individual) is to blame for everything.  So now I'm a Bush defender?

I love the Clintons.. Bill and Hillary.  Do I think they were perfect?  Hell no.  Things were better during his term.  I think he did an awesome job.  But he made mistakes too. 

There is no gray here... only black or white.  Me or you.  Right or wrong.  My way or the highway.  

Now you say that someone who wasn't born here is not American?  I say it time and time again... do NOT put words in my mouth.  The word "born" appears NO WHERE in any of my comments, EVER.  Being Irish is my HERITAGE.  I value that heritage and I am interested in Irish politics and concerns. But make NO mistake.  I am NOT Irish.  I am American.  It is you who doesn't see the difference.  I have the utmost respect for the efforts of all immigrants to the US, which my grandparents did.  But I tell ya... I get pretty tired of hearing how much BETTER immigrants are... smarter, better looking, nicer, more talented... whatever.  You make judgements based on your personal opinions... nothing more.   You say you took an oath... right?  Ok... hot shot.  Let me ask you.  If... IF... the US were to go to war with someone (ANYONE), are you going to support her?  Are  you going to send your child to war on behalf of her?  To defend all those lovely rights Americans have?  What about with Iran?  You're "American" now.... right?  Are you going to be American or Iranian if the US goes to war (God forbid). 

Kourosh... Do you think that paying taxes alone makes you American?????????? How sadly misinformed you are.  It's far more than that my friend.  You're an American citizen because you took an oath and waited a few years AND of course pay taxes.  You're American when you believe whole heartedly in America and would support her under any circumstances against threat.  It doesn't mean you like everything our government does.  And yeah, you've got the right to say so.  we act and behave in a more civilized manner than more americans.  Oh... you think so?  And you learned this... where?  In the great iranian regime?  You see.. THAT is exactly what I hate.  People who just love to come to the US (pay taxes) and then diss everything about it... how you're so much better.  You speak better... say what!  You act more civilized.  How wonderful for America.  I'm so grateful you don't try to stone me as I'm walking down the street with a short skirt on.  THANK YOU for teaching America about womens rights.  We really appreciate it.  THANK YOU for giving us a democracy.   We really didn't know what it was before you came. 

To anyone who took this personally, I'm sorry.  But maybe you ought to sit back and think about it.  I'm not allowed to criticize anything Iranian because I'm not.... Iranian!  I don't know what I'm talking about... right? 

As far as loyalty is concerned, I hope we never have to determine that.  Just how loyal are you willing to be? 

YT

Vincent Bugliosi is indeed a great attorney, and probably the last good DA L.A. County ever had, and I'm sure he presents very compelling and throught provoking arguments. But he is also presenting only one side. That's always been the core of his success as an effective and successful prosecutor.

As a "jury" we have to see all of the evidence, and I have tremendous doubts as to whether or not that has happened.

In trying to make sense of it all, the only analogy I can think of is that of an onion with seemingly endless layers, each one stinkier than the last.

anti jan (2)

I think you're doing this on purpose!  

Where did I defend Saddam?

Farhad and I were discussing the role of IRI influence on these suicide bombers. It had nothing to do with Saddam!

Now, be nice and don't twist what I say to expose my ignorance, it might just backfire on you dear ;-)

I had to add this part because you seem to be under the impression that I am either a writer or a blogger!  I am sorry to disappoint you, but I have never claimed to be a writer and this is the only place I blog and you can go see the type of writing I do! 

That assumption was just as baseless as the rest of the labels you try to stick on me. Please do fix that resume andget a real job, harassing me doesn't pay well! 

IRANdokht

IranDokht again you don't make sense

I think you are either very young or didn't follow news from 1980's to 1999.

Her is what you say:

"Do you honestly think that if Iraq was not invaded, there'd be suicide bombers there? if IRI is the only culprit then why there wasn't any before the invasion? they've been there for 30 yrs and these suicide bombing started since the invasion... "

Saddam's Crime against its own people:

1. The Halabja poison gas attack occurred in the period 16–17 March 1988, during the Iran-Iraq War. Chemical weapons (CW) were used by the Iraqi government forces in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja, killing thousands of people, most of them civilians (3,200-5,000 dead on the spot and 7,000-10,000 injured[1]). Thousands more died of horrific complications, diseases, and birth defects in the years after the attack.

2. in 1982 he assassinated in execution style men and women 148 of them all shiite in the town of Dujail, he was informed that he was going to be assassinated

3. Saddam killed million of Iranians in 1980-1988 war

4. Saddam killed Kuwaitis in 1990 gulf war

So you are saying Iraq would have had peace under Saddam.

You are also saying Khamenie is the same as Bush.

Bush is an angel compared to Khamenei.

You are really naive and gullible, I am sorry but I feel bad for those who read your articles and blogs.

to: American Wife

American Wife: are you proud of your slavery or are you pround of killing of real owner of America, the native Americans. Are you teaching us about civilization. If it wasn't because of new blood coming to your country, you wouldn't be a supper-power. you are supper power because of contributions of people from all around the world. And let me make something clear; people who are in america, they are all weak people. they are the people that ran away from their country's problems. they know it too, deep in their hearts. and most of their anger if from this face, that they are weak. what you people who live in America should have done is to stand in the face of problems and try to fix your country, even if it ment failuar and death. even if it meant failuar and Death, even if it mean failuar and dead.
Yes, it is easier said that done. but we all know what the right path is. it is the hard path, a path that many of us can't take, because we are selfish, pigs, that call ourselves concerned iranians. you are neither iranians nor americans, you are human waist unless you go back and try to fix Iran, no matter who is in charge. you Don't like the IRI? then go and fight it, in Iran. if You don't care about who's in charge then go and work and contribute to the society. if you love the IRI then go and support it, in Iran. but you can not throw away the time that God has given you to show your true being, a giving, loving, strong, Iranian. Americans are not better than us, not even for a second. They are bunch of self-ritous lossers, that are wrong.

Dear Farhad

The difference between us might just be that I see Bush and Khamenei as two fundamentalists and you only see it in one of them!

Do you honestly think that if Iraq was not invaded, there'd be suicide bombers there? if IRI is the only culprit then why there wasn't any before the invasion? they've been there for 30 yrs and these suicide bombing started since the invasion... 

oh well, I guess we see the world in different ways. I am not sure why you started telling me about the IRI's perspective when I said it clearly that Bush was a corrupt greedy and incompetent person. IRI might think this is still the year 2008, should I disagree with that statement only based on my ideology differences with IRI?

Cultural influences that you're talking about were not there when US put the Talibans in Afghanistan, armed them, trained them and set them free to do as they pleased. Now the same Taliban is against US, is that IRI's cultural influence or is it the failed US foreign policies? 

Farhad jan, I admire your stance on Human Rights issues and all you do to fight the abusers of it. I also think that our views differ on the Bush administration, US foreign policies and the middle east.  Lets just agree that we disagree.

IRANdokht

Kourosh

I'm saying they may have been destoyed if any remained, or they may have already been used up. The one person who did know for certain was Saddam.

As far as what reasoning the US may have had for insisting upon going in? I don't there's disagreement that Saddam had repeatedly ignored or defied the UN after Desert Storm. That was all the justification anyone needed.

This whole thing can be approached from every conceivable angle or point of view, and we probably won't draw the same conclusion twice. There are entirely too many people involved, going so far back in time, that a full and comprehensive understanding of it all may be too much to expect.

But there is entirely too much emphasis placed upon one person.