Film critical of the Koran

(BBC) -- Dutch right-wing politician Geert Wilders has posted a controversial film critical of Islam's holy book, the Koran, on the internet. The opening scenes show a copy of the Koran, followed by footage of the attacks on the US on 11 September 2001. The 17-minute film was posted on video-sharing website LiveLeak. Its planned release had sparked angry protests in Muslim countries. Dutch PM Jan Peter Balkenende said the film wrongly equated Islam with violence>>>FULL TEXT


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Hold on a minute...

by Cyrus The Great (not verified) on

Hell? Sorry dumbass, but there is no hell except in your ridiculous mythology. You religious people are like fucking children. Islam, Christianity, Judiasm, Hinduism - it's all the same shit. An opiate for a bunch of scared children. You people are stuck in a nonsensical web of medieval mythology and proud of it.

But you are correct, I have absolutely no desire to ever return to Iran because Iran is a lost fucking cause. A rational person living in a theocracy would truly be in "hell".

The only hope for Iran is if all these mullahs and their bastard thugs, the Basiji's, are rounded up and sent to that shithole Saudi Arabia. Better yet, put in the middle of Dashte-e-Kavir and see if their "Khoda" saves their "holy" asses.

Fuck Islam and all the other religions while you're at it. Fuck the Arabs who infected the world with Islam and fuck you Iranians who can't think in a rational manner. You dare insult thinking Iranians when you're the one that worships an invisible cloud being and a book written by an ancient charlatan?


Not much difference between Islam and Judaism

by Daryush on

Whoever doesn't know that is stupid idiot and blind. Therefore if anyone makes a video about Islam must relate it to Judaism since they preach the same shit.

Maybe I should get the verses from Torah to show you guys the anger in that book. Asking why they don't have terrorists?

Give the same media access to all Arabs who happen to be Muslim and I prove why is the way it is.


Persian by Heart & Soul, Ex-Muslim by Force....

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To Anonymous19867532451....

by Tahirih (not verified) on

With all due respect but God and Allah are the same.I can not believe this mentality of diferenciating them.It is like saying angor,or grapes.They are the same please read my comment so may be it gets clear for you as why they are the same.



Allah and the God of Christians

by Anonymous19867532451 (not verified) on

"The media is using these opportunity to create an environment where if you hear the name "Allah" which by the way is the Arabic word for God , who Jewish and Christian followers believe in as well as create an environment that will isolate Muslims."

If you truly believe that the "God" whom Christians serve and "Allah" are the need to do some biblical research.

We do not believe in the same "God". Just because we call him "God" does not mean they are the same person.


last time your hero "Bush"

by Anonymous99999999999999999 (not verified) on

last time your hero "Bush" said "bring it on!" he lost the war in Iraq. don't wish for what you can't handle little boy.


The point has been proven

by Iranian- on

As you can see there are so many who already have thoughts of war and killing of innocent Muslims on their mind.

They make challenges to start wars and conflicts. Actually this is not the first time I see this. I have already heard it from the mouth of a so called 'Christian' Iranian right after 911. He wanted the US to attack and nuke Iran!!! What a nice Iranian!

Please don't think all Christian Iranians are bad, they definitly are not.

Now everyone can see what some of these hate monger sadistic  people have on their mind.


To bored Iranian dude.Your silence is what keeps us where we are

by Salome (not verified) on

How dare you say I am exaggerating. I saw as a child people being executed on television, I saw as a child Parsa being dragged by a car in a sac...all in the name of "Allah". Don't tell me I'm influenced by propoganda! Don't insult me, or my sufferings. Yes those that are fanatics, that commit these crimes are a minority, but I see people who keep silent as the real criminals.

"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.


I read "bahmani's comment" and felt that I have to say this!!!

by Tahirih (not verified) on

I have been biting my lips and in reality holding my hands as not to write this,but something in my deepest part of my soul says "say it" so here it is:

every religion has to end and when the end comes it shows the signs of old age ,but since God is so kind he sends another one to not leave humanity alone to it's we should not blame the religion but the people who have concealed the truth of the next dispensation from masses.
please read the following with eyes clear of prejudice and meditate and think about it.

It is long but it is woth it,

""A great stumbling block to many, in the way of religious unity, is the difference between the Revelations given by the different Prophets. What is commanded by one is forbidden by another; how then can both be right, how can both be proclaiming the Will of God? Surely the truth is One, and cannot change. Yes, the Absolute Truth is One and cannot change, but the Absolute Truth is infinitely beyond the present range of human understanding, and our conceptions of it must constantly change. Our earlier, imperfect ideas will be by the Grace of God replaced, as time goes on, by more and more adequate conceptions. Bahá’u’lláh says, in a Tablet to some Bahá’ís of Persia:—

O people! Words are revealed according to capacity so that the beginners may make progress. The milk must be given according to measure so that the babe of the world may enter into the Realm of Grandeur and be established in the Court of Unity.

It is milk that strengthens the babe so that it can digest more solid food later on. To say that because one Prophet is right in giving a certain teaching at a certain time, therefore another Prophet must be wrong Who gives a different teaching at a different time, is like saying that because milk is the best food 123 for the newborn babe, therefore, milk and nothing but milk should be the food of the grown man also, and to give any other diet would be wrong! ‘Abdu’l-Bahá(eldest son of Bahaullah) says:

Each divine revelation is divided into two parts. The first part is essential and belongs to the eternal world. It is the exposition of Divine truths and essential principles. It is the expression of the Love of God. This is one in all the religions, unchangeable and immutable.
The second part is not eternal; it deals with practical life, transactions and business, and changes according to the evolution of man and the requirements of the time of each Prophet. For example. … During the Mosaic period the hand of a person was cut off in punishment of a small theft; there was a law of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but as these laws were not expedient in the time of Christ, they were abrogated. Likewise divorce had become so universal that there remained no fixed laws of marriage, therefore His Holiness Christ forbade divorce.""

And the progressive revelation did not stop with Rassole Akram.......
With hope of peace on Earth,


It seems that the

by Anonymousll (not verified) on

It seems that the Islamist/Khomeinists on this site want a war over what they consider injustice? Bring it on.

The Germans wanted a war over injustice. Where are they now?

The Japanese wanted a war over injustice. They seem quite content these days. The Soviets wanted a war over injustice.

So if you want a war over your grievances. BRING IT ON.

Sharia is not going to fly in the USA and we will destroy it in the rest of the world. And there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
Whine one. We ain't listening.

Allah or Khoda is definitely not on the side of muslim and has never been.

I think you have done an excellent job of proving the Truth of Fitna. Keep up the good work, Islamists supremacists!



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A bit of correction Mr. bahmani

by Iranian- on

It is true the word of God in Arabic is Allah or in Persian Khoda, but that simply means God, the lord of all worlds. This is the same God as in Abrahamism, Judism and Christianity.


Are they civilized where you come from?

by Anonymous ... (not verified) on

We do not recognize outsiders by their names.
but by the color of there RELIGION as we paint it ...

Milking 911 for all its worth. But what if 911 another false flag.

This part of the psychological war ...

Psychopathic constructs and artifacts are facades and not a manifestation of Islamic values.
How grotesque? While US and Israel murdering Muslims… some are busy blaming Islam for it i.e. “Islam makes for bad Moslems”…
Look at the Iraq war.
Specifically, look at the Abu Ghraib incident and ask; what kind of a mind set (religion/culture) takes joy in inflecting pain to another human being. Or for that matter what kind of a mind set can allow for use of Depleted Uranium in a cold and calculated action that can bring total destruction of a race.

Mohmad fkd Mosees and Jesuse fkd Chriset and than
Moses fked both Jesues and Mohahmaed ... and than ... they were all fked ...

This is from a relegion that has a man on a stick for a symbole ....



چطور شد که

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چطور شد که اینطوری شد؟



But you have to admit...

by bahmani on

Current Islam's jammed evolutionary path aside, the religions that you have listed, have not been exactly holy examples of pristine harmlessness now have they? OK maybe the Buddhists, but I am pretty sure I saw some of them, kicking some serious Chinese ass in the news a week ago.

I think the main problem is in arrogance or the sin of vanity, which seems to get lost, whenever the discussion comes close to accepting other religions.

The sin of vanity, which every single religious person commits easily, and eagerly, is in the arrogant assumption that their brand of the same religion as anyone else's, is the ONLY brand to be bought or sold. I say bought because every single religion has the uncanny financial objective and price.

Even though they all admit you can talk to God for free, it appears his toll takers constantly need to feed.

The Jews call themselves the "Chosen People", which automatically labels me as a "Loser".

Moslems claim there is no god but their god and that his only correct name is Allah. Merely insist on calling him Tony makes you a killable infidel.

Buddhists won't put down their laptops long enough to explain what the hell their religion, kung fu, and those orange robes are all about.

And Christians have this continual obsession with sinning, just for the express purpose and opportunity to gain forgiveness.

Sikhs won't cut their hair out of defiance, but wear turbans as a symbol of royalty.

And finally, Mormons think their underwear has super powers.

And don't get me started on Tom Cruise!

I think you get the point though, and while I support your position to accept the tenets of all religions as basically good, the followers however continually commit unbelievably evil acts on behalf of their chosen faith.

And you have to admit that if any of this leftover cavemanism, was actually true, and if there was the slightest evidence of the active participation by God in proving his presence by his own hand, that the sinning would actually stop.

As it stands now, it certainly appears that the faithful do not apparently have faith in the validity of their own religions, at least enough to leave others well enough alone.

But of course, I am just BS-ing.



by islamismercy! (not verified) on


I always wonder why Moslems do not offer any public apology

by Truth must be told (not verified) on

to Iranians for all horrible harm have done to them and their culture under Islam and Islam rule?


Terrorist behavior has been

by Anonymousk (not verified) on

Terrorist behavior has been condemned resoundingly among Muslims. Those that use the Quran for illegitimate and criminal ends should be punished by the fullest extent of the law. Muslim should condemn the Islamic Republic of Iran for disgracing the religion of Islam for their political gains and bring charges against the Isalmic Republic in a real Islamic Court, perhaps by Egypt or other non-Iranian Shia muslims.



To: JJ, Amir, and a few others

by aaj sr (not verified) on

To:JJ, I would add ignorance and illiteracy to your opening statement.

To Amir Nasiri;

couple of things to think about. I try to mention my point as a headline, rather than explaining them in full details:
-look at the statistical figures showing number of Muslim population growth in Holland and Belgium, I guess other countries' figures should be similar if not higher.
-This Dutch guy think the same way as you think about your son's future, except, he thinks he and his son are going to loose it all while others coming to his country and taking it away from him, he is the one who and his family waking up with sound of "Moazen" when he calls for prayers to come to Mosque a few times a day (as a small example).
On top of that he think he or his children may have to convert to Islam, as we saw how the banners suggesting in their demonstrations.
-Think what we as Iranian did, when Taliban killed few Iranian diplomats in Afghnistan a few years ago, and how the poor Afghan refugees were treated in Iran?. Think about Iranian who were killed viciously (Bakhtiar, Farokhzad etc) in Europe.
-We (as silent majority) can be united by demonstrating against violence whenever we see violence, regardless it's agianst Islam, against Christianity, against Buddhists, against Bahais, against Jews, against Palestinian etc. In return we will get support and respect when we are attacked.

-What did we do, when we saw women are beaten, jailed, even killed in Iran because their hair was not covered entirely?, or when girls kicked out of stadiums, prohibiting them to watch a football game? If we were unitd and protested it, then Dutch and many other nationalities see us as victim of violence and ignorance. We are all in the same boat, we are as victims as they are in our homelands.
-How did we react when we saw, under-aged Iranians were hanged when they reach their 18 birthday for the crime they did (or did n't) when they were 14-15-16-17 years of age, while there were ample petitions, directions (still there is) for support of the causes.
-What did we do or doing now to change the law (the bill is sitting in Majlis since last 5 years), when we are told that the legal age for girl is 9 while boy is 15 but if you want to vote, obtain driving license, or obtain passport you have to be 18!! and there is no age difference between boy and girl!.

-Where were we when they stoned a man (Mr. Kiani) in Takestan despite direct order from Shahroudi and now Khamene-ee, unprecedently pardonned!! his wife for alleged adultry , both were living in prisons for 11 years(she would have been stoned to death at the same time along her husband if there were not internal/external pressures from all over the world). Did we follow and protested why that poor guy stonned to death, and what happened to the Haj-Agha-judge who ordered Kiani's stoning? Is he punished? is he going to pay for the expenses of two kids, is he or the government is going to pay the poor woman's expenses, what is the value of an innocent's man life?, what is the value of 11 years in jail, awaiting EVERY DAY to be execeuted!!( even writing it is very painful). These few incidents from Iran,including very many similar barbaric, inhuman acts from Afghanistan, Saudi, Sudan, China etc are all reported on a daily basis all over the world, don't you think it effect other nations? don't they fear the same coming to their own neighbourhood soon?, when they see a bunch of violent people screaming from bottom of their lungs "justice go to hell" or "we kill infidels" " "Islam will take over UK, US, Europe"!!, or whatever we saw in the film? they should not get scared?
-Would'nt they fear Mosques mushrooming every month in every city in Europe, while there is no single Mosque for Sunnis in Tehran?, or destroying Derwish's mosque in Iran, and how about there is not a single Church, let alone a synagogue in entire Saudi Arabia? while Saudi financing the biggest Mosque in London.?
-Don't you think the policy of Australian government asking immigrants who can not adopt with Austrlian way of life should go back to their own country, is it a fair statement?
-We have to respect others if we want to be respected, we have to raise our voice when we see injustice regardless it's against our belief, our religion or even our own family member, then we shall see others will defend us when we are attacked unfairly.

We agree or disagree with the content of the movie: If we disgree, then we must state our disagreement (saying which part is not correct or translation is not right etc) with reasons and documentations, and if warrants, we have a good legal case to follow it through the court of law, and if we agree, then we have to voice our agreement with the content of the film, voicing our FRUSTRATION against voilence and ask for reforming the Sharia/Sunna law to today's human rights and common sense. (let me give you an example among very many others:) stoning law exist in Judaism as well as in Christianity, but you have never heard anyone being stoned to death anywhere in these relegions)
Final word: For those who remember when we did not need entry visa to many countries in Europe and easily obtained visa to other countries without being humilated or rejected? It started when we took American hostages for 444 days. If we had protested, raised our voices and freed them, what would have been our situtaion today!!. This can get worse or perhaps eventually it will get better IF we change the regime or the regime change its barbaric, inhuman treatment toward our mothers, brothers, sisters once for all.


TO: Bored Iranian Dude

by urstruly (not verified) on

Right on...

"...If you really are a muslim, walk with your back straight and know that your religion, like most religions, dictate love, peace and understanding...."


Fitna with persian

by Anonymous,,,, (not verified) on

Sheila K

Ignorance is NOT a bliss

by Sheila K on

Many muslims are ignorant, from the rich to poor. Take the king of Dubai spending billions to build superficial islands destroying the eco system of the Persian Gulf--for power and greed. He could've spent that money to help his Palestinian brothers and sisters buy a country. But instead he'd rather pay to fuel the anger against jews and such.

Many muslims are inherently rich, spoiled, and ignorant. 


RE: Salmoe

by Bored Iranian dude (not verified) on

I think your over exagerating and caving in for propaganda. If you really are a muslim, walk with your back straight and know that your religion, like most religions, dictate love, peace and understanding. There are 1.4 billion muslims in this world, and maybe 0.000001 percent of them are as extreme as this video shows. Dont fall for generalization, rascism and lies. IF you do, they win.


To Site Admin and why you should not have posted this

by Bored Iranian dude (not verified) on

Im not a muslim, I dont understand Islam or religion at all. But when there are 1.4 billion muslims in the world, and videos like these are made just to offend them, why do you post them? Because you want to show that "nothing is sacred?" Does this mean that you will soon post equally politically credible videos from White Nationalist movements, anti jewish films or films that prove that men are better than women? Why not? I mean, nothing is sacred right? Go for it now, your on a roll. I dare you.

You should prove that you stand for free speech Javid, by posting a white nationalist speaking about how negroides should be clensed. Then you should post white christian evangelical clips that call for the murder of muslims. If you need help, I can find them for you by all means. We need to prove that freedom of expression is 100%!!

The sad real fact is that, videos like these are made all the time and posted on the internet regarding jews, black, white, women, muslims, christians and etc. Only media outlets (BBC, CNN, FOX) and editors like Javid allow them to become famous and conflict making by actually giving them the spotlight.

The sane side of humanity thanks you for your help!



by Salome (not verified) on

You know I was a child when the Islamic Republic was forced down my families throat. I saw all the suffereings, I lived in fear. All of the events in the film happened! Why are you all denying it? It is true. Before the Islamic Revolution my thoughts were different, I related it to peace. I don't know. And the actions that the muslic community has shown to us all is one of hatred and violence. Actions speak louder than words. They seem to only distroy, never build. I have no problem with this film, the truth hurts! Perhaps it's time to actually look at what has happened, and make changes. I consider my self a muslic, when people ask of my religion I say muslim. And it's up to us moderate muslims, to put those fanatics in their place. For the love of humnity, it's up to us to make that change.


شما وقتی حرف یکی رو سانسور می کنید چون مخا لف عقیده شماست روزی ک


شما وقتی حرف یکی رو سانسور می کنید چون مخا لف عقیده شماست روزی که به قدرت برسید با زن بچه مردم و مخا لفان عقیده خودتان چه می کنید


RE: JJ's Power and Politics

by LostIdentity (not verified) on

I also agree with the logic you have. Passion of Power corrupts even the most virtuous man.

We usually like to judge others and find them at fauly but seldom sit in fron of the mirror and see how responsible we are.

...And, most of the time we like to use "Freedom & Democracy" selfishly as an our eternal right without paying attention to how we can transgress on other people's freedom.


Why All this Islamophibia????

by Anonymuslim (not verified) on

Muslims Outnumber World's Catholics
Posted: 2008-03-30 17:24:57
Filed Under: World News
VATICAN CITY (March 30) - Islam has surpassed Roman Catholicism as the world's largest religion, the Vatican newspaper said Sunday.

"For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims have overtaken us," Monsignor Vittorio Formenti said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. Formenti compiles the Vatican's yearbook.

He said that Catholics accounted for 17.4 percent of the world population — a stable percentage — while Muslims were at 19.2 percent.

"It is true that while Muslim families, as is well known, continue to make a lot of children, Christian ones on the contrary tend to have fewer and fewer," the monsignor said.

Formenti said that the data refer to 2006. The figures on Muslims were put together by Muslim countries and then provided to the United Nations, he said, adding that the Vatican could only vouch for its own data.

When considering all Christians and not just Catholics, Christians make up 33 percent of the world population, Formenti said.

Spokesmen for the Vatican and the United Nations did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment Sunday.


Mr Javid I agree with you ,and want to add one thing....

by Tahirih (not verified) on

In addition to politics and power I like to add the following:
“The source and origin of tyranny have been the divines(religious leaders). Through the sentences pronounced by these haughty and wayward souls the rulers of the earth have wrought that which ye have heard…. The reins of the heedless masses have been, and are, in the hands of the exponents of idle fancies and vain imaginings. These decree what they please. God, verily, is clear of them . "