شیرین عبادی، رضا پهلوی و لاهه

Fred
by Fred
23-Mar-2012
 

دیروز شورای حقوق بشر سازمان ملل متحد، ماموریت احمد شهید، گزارشگر ویژه حقوق بشر برای ایران را تمدید کرد.

به همین مناسبت آقای دهقانپور، مجری برنامه افق بخش فارسی صدای آمریکا، از بانو شیرین عبادی در مورد عواقب تداوم عدم همکاری نظام پربرکت مسلمین "اصلاح طلب" و غیره با احمد شهید پرس و جو کرد.

"عبادی: ادامۀ عدم همکاری دولت ایران و ادامۀ نقض حقوق بشر در ایران میتواند پیامدهای سنگینی برای حکومت داشته باشد که سلسله مراتب مختلفی دارد و سرانجام میتواند دولت ایران را پای میز محاکمه در دادگاه بین المللی جنایت علیه بشریت بکشد."

به عبارت دیگر؛ نقض فاحش حقوق بشر همانند جنایت علیه بشریت در حیطه صلاحیت دیوان کیفری بین المللی مستقر در لاهه میباشد.

افراد بسیاری منجمله رضا پهلوی در تلاشند تا حضرات ایرانی کُش و ایران ویران کُن را به پای میز محاکمه در لاهه بکشانند.

این رویداد قضایی دیر و زود دارد و سوخت و سوز ندارد.

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anglophile

I came across one of your "top" publications!!

by anglophile on

 "I am one of the top experts on the Iranian opposition groups with several top publications on the subject. " - MK I just though to benefit for your huge intelect and searh your "top" publications that I found this:         Ten Best Iranian Political Leaders of All Time **

1. Koresh Kabir (Cyrus the Great)

2. Babak Khorramdin

3. Yaaghob Leis Safar

4. Ferdowsi

5. Mossadegh

6. Sattar Khan

7. Karim Khan Zand

8. Dehkhoda

9. Dariush

10. Khayyam

 

http://iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/my-top-ten-lists-best-and-worst-political-leaders-world

 

 

I rest my case.


Masoud Kazemzadeh

Nokar Anglo Is Wrong As Usual

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Nokar Anglo,

 

You are sooooooooo clueless, you do not realize that you are clueless. If you take what you wrote to ANY political science professor, he or she would give you "F."

1. Maoists ARE Stalinists. Heloooooooo.

2. Paykar was Maoist. Helooooooo.

3. Tudeh Party, actually CHANGED according to the Changes in the USSR. When USSR was ruled by Stalin and was Stalinist, the TP was Stalinist. When USSR was under the so-called "revisionism" of Khrushchev, the Tudeh Party became Khrushchevist. And when the USSR became neo-Stalinist under Brezhnev, Tudeh Party became Brezhnevist.

4. You are soooooooooooooooo clueless that you do not know that I am one of the top experts on the Iranian opposition groups with several top publications on the subject. Most Iranian leftists in 1979 were Stalinist. But as I have written in my publications there were significant exceptions. For example, Shoray Motehhad Chap baray Democracy Va Esteghlal was a democratic Marxist. The Sazeman Vahdat Kommunisti was also close to council communists and very democratic and non-Leninist and non-Stalinist. There were also a few very small Trotskyist groups (Reza Barahani was a member of one them).

 

5. Kashani and Fadaian Islam closely worked with the Shah and CIA and MI6 before, during, and after the coup. See:

 

http://iranian.com/History/2005/January/Kinzer/index.html

 

In conclusion, you are a weird combination of utter ignorance and utter arrogance, whose writing is peppered with personal attacks and insults.

MK


anglophile

Convinced Fred?

by anglophile on

I don't know if you got the answer to your question but I got more than I had hoped for from the response by our resident Mossadeghi-Basijsit, Professor Masoud (JM-didn't-help-khomeini-to-power) Kazemzadeh. First of all, I couldn't help laughing out loud when I read the dear Professor's black-and-white notion of the Iranian left evolution. To our Mossijist (I just combined Mossadeghi and Basijist) Professoer if you are left you must be Stalinist!! Ehmm ...., sorry Professor but have you ever heard, among other parties, of the Fedaees (Marxist-Leninists), Ranjbaran (Maoists) Peykars (Trotskiytes), Hekmatits (mish mash of everything) etc, etc (http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%87:%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%A8_%DA%A9%D9%85%D9%88%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86)  Contrary to Professor Mossijist's assertion, the only party that never changed  their position was the one and only Stalinist party, the Tudeh, that was Stalinist from day one and continues to be Stalinist to this day - so much for your evolution theory Professor!! There was, however, a very correct assetion in Professor Mossijist's comment that I can fully concur with:
In JM we make our decisions based on what is in the national interests of Iran. There might emerge a situation that we would make an alliance with ANYBODY ..."
But Professor did not need to look so far afield as the US politics and FDR to find an example. His own Imam, Mossadegh, saw it in the interest of the nation (!!) to forge an alliance with the most reactionary and backward faction of the society, i.e the clergy under the leadership of Aytollah Kashani,  until Mossadegh, who had been helped to power by Kashani and Co (Fadeeyan Islam) didn't keep his side of the deal and sought more powers than he could handle! The rest is history. Funny enough Mossadegh's disciples followed his path twenty five years later and forged another ill-fated alliance (In the interest of the country of course!!) with one of Kashani's disciples: Khomeini. The rest, as they say, is history. Over to you Professor -  LOL.  

Masoud Kazemzadeh

Fred

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Dear Fred,

 

1. I 100% support taking the IRI officials to the ICC.

2. I think the most appropriate persons to lead that effort would be Shirin Ebadi and the team should include Dr. Karim Lahiji and other prominent human rights advocates.

3. Reza Pahlavi is NOT the appropriate person to talk about IRI’s crimes against humanity because his own gang has also committed crimes against humanity. It is hypocrisy. Monarchists talking about human rights violations of IRI while remaining silent on human right violation by themselves is like onion telling garlic you smell. The son of the former tyrant criticizing the current tyrants so that he could get back to power as KING.

4. It appears to me that RP is more interested in self-promotion than any genuine regards for human rights.

 

5. If RP is genuinely interested on prosecuting crimes against humanity, he should also include those in his father’s regime who committed torture, rape, murders, and killings of unarmed protesters.

 

6. The way I see it, almost all other groups have evolved in the past few decades except the monarchists. Just look at our leftists. In the early 1980s, they were brutal Stalinists. Today, most of them have abandoned dictatorship and embrace democracy, freedom, human rights. They have fully and unambiguously condemn Stalin, Stalinism, and their own ideology and policies. Unfortunately, as it is crystal clear our monarchists have gotten WORSE. The "moderate" monarchist openly advocates hanging 5.9 MILLION people!!!!!!

 

7. I am a Political Science professor.

8. One of the main reasons that the vf regime has been able to stay in power is the weakness of the opposition groups. One of the reasons for the weakness of the opposition is existence of the monarchists. There is no realistic change whatsoever for the monarchist to restore the Pahlavu dynasty. But they are SPOILERS. They have been able to get a lot of money, use the money to attack OTHER opposition forces, say the most extremist weird genocidal stuff on tv (and make all the opposition look bad), and take resources (money and people) away from those opposition groups that do have a very realistic change of getting rid of the IRI. Just see how much of the time and energy of the people on this site is wasted on proving for the nth time the horrible things the Shah did???????? The same on tv.

 

9. What is really sad is the fact that still in 2012 there exists people who support monarchy. It is really sad that these people have not yet learned the basics of democracy, freedom, and our own history.

 

10. I do not know how to remedy the situation. The monarchists are spoilers. How to convince them to abandon their dictatorial alternative is not easy. Their continued existence does definitely HELP the vf regime. The BEST thing to expedite the overthrow of the vf regime would be for RP to renounce monarchy and establish a conservative republican party. I think the monarchists are soooooooooooo brain washed that no amount of reason, logic, scholarly evidence can change their minds.

Best,

Masoud

P.S. In JM we make our decisions based on what is in the national interests of Iran. There might emerge a situation that we would make an alliance with ANYBODY, including the monarchists. For example, FDR made an alliance with Stalin against Hitler. It was the correct policy. So we do not totally forever dismiss anything. At this moment, we do not see a situation that it would be possible to form an alliance with the monarchists. We see them as simply as another dictatorial group, one that has become worse and more blood-thirsty year after year.

 

 

 

 


anglophile

Fred you don't need to be a history professor (!) to answer ...

by anglophile on

that question. Just think of one name: SPAIN! (they didn't go to ICC to establish their democracy). The main issue at hand here is neither the Mossadeghists (they are not the same as the Republicans) nor the Pahlavists (they are not the same as the monarchists) have any clue what democracy is.

Fred

Masoud

by Fred on

Thank you for taking the time to explain your position on the questions asked in this and a previous blog.

If I understand correctly, you support the ongoing efforts to take the Islamist Rapists to ICC, however, you want the same treatment be meted out to the officials of the regime which was overthrown some 34 years ago.

The question in the previous blog asked if the time has come to unite, despite differences, to overthrow the Islamist Rapists who are fast dragging Iran into an abyss.

My reading of your answer is that the divide between the Republican and the Monarchists are too wide to be bridged. And that this issue has to be settled first before moving on.

Since you are a history professor, can you explain what other nations who were in similar circumstances did to get over the impass?

Thank you again.


Arj

Name droppings!

by Arj on

What does RP have to do with this news?! Is erverything supposed to be about him? Couldn't this news just be told without inserting RP in there for no good reason?!

....................................................

Dear MK, thank you for your kind words and support. Unfortunately, the notion of "reconciliation" for monarchists and Pahlavi supporters is the same as date-rape! Meaning: We do our part which is being there, and you do yours, which is to put out!!!

Noruzat piruz...


Masoud Kazemzadeh

Dear Fred

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Fred jaan,

I support putting fundamentalist terrorist regime officials (Khamenei, Rafsanjani, et al) on trial at the ICC or any other international or Iranian courts of law. I admire your support for this issue.

But at the same time, we have to have the same standard. The monarchists also committed crimes against humanity. Should we also demand putting Farah Pahlavi, Parviz Sabeti, Ashraf Pahlavi, Ardeshir Zahedi on trial at the ICC or any other international or Iranian courts of law?

And please read what our own IC monarchists want to do. Our own "moderate" monarchist Onn Yaroo advocates execute by hanging 5,000,000 in addition to the 900,000 or so estimated executions by Saeed Sakuee.

http://iranian.com/main/2012/mar/saeed-sakuee-900-000-need-be-executed

And when a decent social democrat like Ajr makes mild criticism of Reza Pahlavi, another "moderate" monarchist Maziar 58 advocates to hang Ajr and people like him.

http://iranian.com/main/albums/royal-green-norooz

Two days ago, you asked isn’t time for democrats work with monarchists instead of keep debating Mossadegh vs. the Shah fight?

http://iranian.com/main/node/176333

Let me provide an answer.

1. The fight between democrats and monarchists is primarily about the future. We want a secular democratic republic. We believe that the monarchists want to re-establish their fascistic brutal tyranny.

2. The debate between Mossadegh and the Shah is merely symbolic between those who wanted then and now democracy and those wanted then and now a brutal savage tyranny.

3. In my observations of the real world as well as the cyber world, the overwhelming majority of the monarchists are Shahollahis who are not only unrepentant of their crimes against humanity that they committed when they were in power, but also want to commit more genocide as soon as they get the power to do so.

4. Even the handful of so-called "moderate"or "constitutionalist" monarchists, are still pretty dictatorial.

5. Reza Pahlavi has not only not unequivocally condemned the crimes committed by his father and grandfather, but also has their photos displayed on his homes and elsewhere.

6. Reza Pahlavi’s WORDS in the U.S. on democracy and human rights appear to us to be insincere, and designed to fool the people (Iranian and others) very much like Khomeini’s WORDS in Paris on democracy and human rights were designed to fool the people (Iranian and others).

7. Put yourself in our shoes. If the vf regime was overthrown next year and RP was able to re-establish another brutal tyranny like Franco or Pinochet or his father’s or his grandfather’s. And a few years later, Mojtaba Khamenei comes around and says to democrats that they should unify with him while he is heading the movement to restore the nezam Velayat Faqih. Mojtaba says that he promises that he will be a constitutional Vali Faqih. And that the people in free election can vote for any cleric to the Assembly of Expert which will monitor the actions of the VF and can remove him if he ruled badly. Mojtaba would add the VF institution under periodic election and supervision is more democratic (or less authoritarian) than an unelected and unsupervised KING. Moreover, Mojtaba would not advocate the prosecution of those who committed crimes against humanity under the vf regime but does support sending monarchists to the ICC. Mojtaba also says that his father and Ayatollah Khomeini loved Iran and Islam.

If you would not collaborate with Mojtaba Khamenei (while he want to restore the system of velayat faqih) why in the world should Iranian democrats do the same thing with Reza Pahlavi?

In the opinion of Iranian democrats, the institution of monarchy (like the institution of Vali Faqih) is an anti-democratic institution. A country could be democratic (U.K., Sweden) as long as the monarch is merely symbolic and has no real actual power. To the extent a monarch has any real political powers, to that extent that system is not democratic. The question is why the hell, have a anti-democratic institution like monarchy in the future post-fundamentalist Iran? If the position of monarch is not going to have any power, why the hell have this anti-democratic institution in the constitution? If the position of monarch is going to have any power, then why have a anti-democratic constitution?

If RP is a democrat, then he should renounce any demands for special permanent power. He could easily renounce monarchy. After the overthrow of the vf regime, he can run for Presidency, if he won, he could serve as President for a maximum of two terms. Or he could run for Majles.

The Iranian democrats do not see the wisdom is allying with someone with an alternative (monarchy) that is an anti-democratic institution, that has the actual HISTORY of brutal savage tyranny, that has not unequivocally condemned the tyrannical past of the Pahlavi regime, and that the vast majority of his supporters are openly genocidal and fascistic.

We are sick and tired of our people having to jump from frying pan to the fire and back and forth. Enough is enough for our tortured people. We want a normal democratic secular republic. We want a system whose leaders have not engaged in torture, rape, and murder of the Iranian people. BOTH the fundamentalists and the monarchists have committed these crimes against our people. We are sick and tired of our beloved Iran being ruled by violent fascistic savages like fundamentalists and monarchists.

I hope this explanation helps you to understand why we have a problem working with the monarchists.

Best,

Masoud

 


Roozbeh_Gilani

ماموريت گزارشگر ويژه حقوق بشر برای ايران تمديد شد

Roozbeh_Gilani


بى بى سى:شورای حقوق بشر سازمان ملل متحد ماموريت احمد شهيد، گزارشگر ويژه حقوق بشر برای ايران را تمديد کرد.

در رای گيری اين شورا ۲۲ عضو رای موافق و ۵ عضو رای مخالف دادند. نمايندگان چين، کوبا، روسيه، بنگلادش و قطر ار مخالفان تمديد ماموريت آقای شهيد بودند.

باقی اعضای اين شورا که از ۴۷ عضو تشکيل شده، رای ممتنع دادند.

احمد شهيد ده ماه قبل به اين سمت انتخاب شد. او دومين گزارش خود را ده روز قبل به شورای حقوق بشر سازمان ملل متحد ارائه کرد که مانند گزارش نخست، با واکنش منفی مقام های ايرانی روبرو شد.

در گزارش دوم، از ايران به دليل 'موارد متعدد نقض حقوق بشر' از جمله فشار بر روزنامه‌نگاران و منتقدان حکومت، شکنجه زندانيان و محروم بودن متهمان از حق دادرسی عادلانه انتقاد شد.

پيشتر بيش از بيست سازمان و گروه فعال در زمينه حقوق بشر از اعضای شورای حقوق بشر سازمان ملل متحد خواسته‌ بودند که ماموريت آقای شهيد را تمديد کنند.

آقای شهيد در گزارش دوم خود از 'عدم همکاری مقامات ايران' گلايه کرد و نوشت که مقام های ايرانی با درخواست او برای سفر به اين کشور موافقت نکرده اند.

در ماه ژوئن سال گذشته احمد شهيد، وزير امور خارجه سابق مالديو، به عنوان گزارشگر ويژه حقوق بشر برای ايران معرفی شد.

اين نخستين بار بود که شورای حقوق بشر سازمان ملل، که در سال ۲۰۰۶ تأسيس شد، برای ايران گزارشگر ويژه تعيين می کرد.

'ادامه موارد نقض حقوق بشر'
در گزارش دوم آقای شهيد، از ايران به دليل موارد متعدد نقض حقوق بشر از جمله فشار بر روزنامه‌نگاران و منتقدان حکومت، شکنجه زندانيان، محروم بودن متهمان از حق دادرسی عادلانه و "سرکوب سازمان‌يافته" اقليت‌های ديني، قومی و جنسی انتقاد شد.

به دنبال انتشار اين گزارش، محمدجواد لاريجانی دبير ستاد حقوق بشر ايران، اين گزارش را "مملو از اتهامات بي‌پايه و اساس" خواند.

او روز دوشنبه ۲۲ اسفند (۱۲ مارس)، در نشست شورای حقوق بشر سازمان ملل متحد، احمد شهيد را متهم کرد که "به جای بيان حقايق به جهانيان با شرورترين گروه‌های تروريستی که دستشان به خون ملت ايران آغشته است، همکاری نزديک داشته است."

آقای لاريجانی در روز ارائه اين گزارش، به طعنه گفت که لازم نيست احمد شهيد به ايران سفر کند، چون مي‌تواند به "وب‌سايت‌های ضدانقلاب و معاند جمهوری اسلامی رجوع کند و اين محتويات را کپی و پيست کند."

در گذشته آندرياس آگوئيلار، رينالدو گاليندوپل و موريس کاپيتورن به عنوان نمايندگان ويژه حقوق بشر سازمان ملل چند بار به ايران رفتند و گزارش های متعددی در مورد وضعيت حقوق بشر در ايران تهيه کردند.

روابط دولت ايران با نمايندگان ويژه سازمان ملل عموما پر تنش بود و گزارش های آنها اکثرا ناخرسندی مقامات ايران را بر انگيخته است.

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مآمور

r we busing there? can u

by مآمور on

r we busing there? can u hold the bus till I come back from work? I lost my GPS and I might not find it!! oh I know, ok ok go no worries!!

I ask Fred! he is heading there to deffend his clients!!

I wear an Omega watch


پندارنیک

........

by پندارنیک on

The respectable Israeli attachè at IC, our dear Fred, has to make up his Kosher mind: Is Ebadi, or any other reformist/semi-reformist for that matter worthy of being the point of reference or not?

We all know you can't wait for the moment that you'll eat Ebadi and her gang for your lunch, Fred..........you are here, my friend, to promote the retarded boy.

And since when has the retarded Reza become a political entity? Based on what? For what? who is he? what does he represent? where's he coming from? where does he want to go? (no slogans accepted.......let's get the house back, then we'll choose the color for the walls....is over-used/outdated........and utterly immature).........

If RP wants to "claim" his rightful inheritance (and that's the only thing that he's historically but not legally entitled to do), he has to accept the liabilities as well..............

Never mind the Hague, Fred.......it's a pipe dream designed for the publicity stunt.....(the aimless/leaderless opposition abroad needs a bandwagon to jump on every now and then).....and let's keep it as a pipe dream for the sake of the criminals who committed the Flotilla massacre and Gaza phosphorus bombing, etc...............

The only institution which should be allowed to make a judgment upon an Iranian for his or her alleged(don't forget this one) crimes in IRI time, will be an Iranian court,  presided by an Iranian judge, and in front of an Iranian jury, in Iran...............any other suggestion is designed by the foreigners for humiliating our people, our collective will, and our potential..........

 


Demo

نمایش رو حوضی لاهه

Demo


 


این دیوان کیفری بین المللی مستقر در لاهه هم شده عینهو مثل نمایشهای رو حوضی قدیم در کشورمان. به ساز و تنبک زور گویان یک سری چون میمون گاهی گداری در روی آن به رقص در می آیند،حقوقی سر ماه گرفته و چون میمون ماتحت خود را به هنگام پرسش در مورد محل رسیدگی به حقوق بشر و کیفر ظالمان نشان میدهند!
پ.ن. و چه بشر بدبختی که کسانی چون شیرین و رضا غصه اش را میل نمایند!