Rudaba and Zal trivia


Rudaba and Zal trivia
by ramintork

Follow up to quiz on the connection between the German fairy tale "Rapunzal" and Ferdosi's Roudabeh and Zal. The story has so much fun trivia. Here are a few to have fun with:

- Simurgh instructed and Zal conducted the first known Caesarean section which in persian is called Rustamzaad.

- Rustam had Arab blood! Rudaba Rustam's mum and daughter of chief of Kabul was from line of Zahak the Arab and that is why they were all against the marriage! So even Rustam would not be too pure an Aryan for some of our bloggers here. LOL!

- The tradition of Javanmardi or Pahlavani (not the Gajar resurrection of Pahlavani) known in English as code of Chivalry was passed from Iranians to Arabs, Romans, and the Eurpeans of post Rome i.e. Anglo Saxons. It was mixed with some branches of Sufism and exists to this day, we just have to go back and get rid of the Islamic bits here and there. LOL. So for instance Salman Farsi is no longer a hero but a traitor or at least the kid who suffered from Stockholm syndrome before the syndrome was recognized in 20th Century and became a bandit! Thank you IRI for the last 30 inch nail!

Here are the qualites as I understand them (I wished I practiced them too): Patience, hospitality, tolerance, respect for elders, self sacrifice, acting on one's promise and being one with one's good deeds, being the champion of the weak, defender of light and wisdom, to summarize the doctrince of Avesta in good thought, good deeds, good actions which meant that you held back your words until you were sure it is what you want to say! I think all of us bloggers on IC qualify! LOL.

These Aryans lived in Sistan a hot climate region in south east Iran so they would have been very olive-skinned so please get the Hitler's youth images out of your head, that nonesense doesn't apply to us.

- Rakhsh wasn't white! It was as described: "like rose leaves that have been scattered upon a saffron ground."

- Shahnameh is a zen like practical application book of Javanmardi it is what being Iranian is all about, so now that you know Shahnameh is your real book of light we should go back and read it in detail. Although blood line is important, it is the chivalry conduct that makes you Iranian so I'll try to practrice it more often and if you love Iran you would do the same. Instead of reading the Da vinci code the secrets are in Shahnameh ( the uncut version i.e. the version that was not altered by Mullahs).


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Thanks for your point, it is the point I was trying to make. A point that is often missed by some. Indeed Ferdowsi was refering to a cultural rather than a racial group.

In addition scientifically there is no such thing as race by genes, there are not enough genetic differences between Homo Sapiens to classify them into subdivisions but we still use the concept as a social construct.


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We don't have any real Iranian Stand Up Comic here in France which is a shame. There is just one Journalist Sarah Doraghi on the morning show called Tele Matin who gives people some insight into persian culture from time to time between her culture reports. But no actor to date be it on theater or on screen. Apart of course Marjane Satrapi. But haven't heard much of her either lately. I guess she is working on her next film in Germany.

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Particularly in a scetch where he argues with a Turk Selling Doner Kebab.  

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مفهوم نژاد در شاهنامه با معنای آن در کاربرد امروزی یکسان نیست. در نظر غربی های مدرن نژاد دلالتی بیولوژیکی دارد حال آنکه نژاد در نظر فردوسی امری اخلاقی است. تفاوت این دو از زمین تا آسمان است.



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Besides I always thought You were a Bloody Lucky Er ... You know:



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Imagine you are a hard working farmer living near a civilized city like Ctesiphon where Cyrus's doctrine of respect for all religions is still valid, you come home to have your supper with the dear wife and kids and next thing you know an army of men with raised swords guided by a fellow country man come and say we will take your property, kill your men sell your wives and children because we have been told to do so by our God!

How should you or your decendents feel about such a man?

That I can't reconcile, companion of prophet or not! Call me old fashion but I don't accept crimes against humanity in or not in the name of God specially since I'm a De facto athiest.

Right. Now I've asked for it and instead of sitting down sorting out what I've taken time off for I'll probably be spending time on this Blog, or hopefully not!



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I didn't know you liked the comment so much you turned it to my Blog, or was it that I turned the comment to an Essay?