Can we all agree on CEASE FIRE NOW ?

Can we all agree on CEASE FIRE NOW ?
by Q
08-Jan-2009
 

My view is that Hating or criticizing IRI has nothing to with Gaza, not when 100000X help is being given to the side carrying out the actual genocide by the US government.

My view is that many Iranians are so increadibly ignorant, prejudices and Islamophobic that they feel like this is like a soccer match and they have to take sides with any asshole that opposes IRI. For them, politics is more important than humanity.

My view is that Israel is committing war crimes and genocide by any and all definitions of the words. Israel is engaging in deliberate action knowing civilians will be murdered but since it has support from the criminal Bush administration, it gets away with it. Israel clearly intends to punish Gazans, whom it considers less than human. Otherwise, it would treat them like humans.

However, no matter what side of the equation you are on and how deeply you resent Hamas or the Palestinians, or equally no matter how reflexively anti-Israel, or anti Zionist you are, isn't it reasonable to demand a cease fire at this point in time?

Can we at least use this as a point of unity? Cease fire? Stop the meat grinder that is killing children? Is that helping anybody? Is it helping to stop terrorism or to bring peace? Is it even hurting Hamas one bit?

Can we say we have at least this much in common? That we support an immediate cease fire right now?

The question is: Immediate Cease Fire, Yes or No?

(Picture: Anti-Israel demonstration in Kualalampur, Malaysia)

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Iranian Reader

DK, good heavens, no!

by Iranian Reader on

I am terribly sorry, you've misunderstood me completely. I keep writing how much I appreciate your humor and gentlemanly demeanor -- perhaps you haven't read the other comments I have left for you here and there, which is why I complain that you ignore me! Good lord, threaten you?!!! The "you'll be sorry" that I talk about is the kind you say to a friend with a: "Was that you, you haroomzadeh?"

I so hope you read this!


Free Spirit

Sadly it appears........

by Free Spirit on

Sadly it appears by some of the comments on this thread that a cease fire is not an option.

Their own political agendas are more important than the suffering of women and children.

What you ask of them is to have a humanitarian view which sees no political or religious boundaries.......it simply sees all as part of the same race the "HUMAN RACE".


rosie is roxy is roshan

DEAR MODERATORS / J.

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I request again that the goldfish post from Anonymous which I flagged yesterday be deleted. This post calls Darius Kadivar a Ziopig. That is unacceptable from ANYONE at ANY TIME to ANYONE but especially to Darius who is a very prominent member of our community from a goldfish.

The post also begins "Forget him" and then says he lost his mind. At first this might seem like a joke but it's not.  It is offensive enough coming from anyone but from some coward hiding behind the PRIVILEGE of anonymity

It is EXACTLY these kinds of goldfish who make people want to get rid of all of them. The whole goldfish controversy would be solved if you would just delete this kind of fish.

DK is one of the few people here who uses his own identity. He has to be harrassed by this coward? This is a very extreme situation which proves the point of all the other complaints.

Pls.delete.

Thx

Rosie


samsam1111

Darius

by samsam1111 on

Threats ? ..look here in blog //iranian.com/main/blog/ebi-amirhosseini-103

"Samsam we have tolerated you up to now making our work harder for us...but if you keep siding with efriteh zehionists and certain characters ..thats a different story ..so take my word and do whats good for you or you wont have an easy time on this site "

this was in broad view of moderators and went past them no sweat...so keep cool pal..those so called annonyms are closer than you think..cheers pal!!!


Darius Kadivar

Iranian Reader Is that a Threat Sir/Madam ?

by Darius Kadivar on

I don't have the pleasure of knowing you Sir/Madam all the more that you write under anonymity and with no Identity.

I SIR DON'T WRITE HERE TO BE ANYONE's CLOWN !

YAANI CHEEH ?

NOW WE ARE THE DANGEROUS WRITERS ?

What Are you going to do ? Shoot Me ?

FIRST DAVID ET, WHO HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR HUMAN RIGHTS FREELY WITHOUT THE SLIGHTEST FINANCIAL RETRIBUTION OR THANKS UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS CYBER COMMUNITY. NOW ITS MY TURN ?

HAJI AGHA AND HIS RACIST CARTOONS THAT REMIND ME OF WHAT MY GRANDPARENTS TOLD ME ABOUT NAZI CARTOONS MAKING FUN OF JEWS, GAYS AND THE HOLOCAUST ARE TOLERATED ON THE IRANIAN.COM BUT THE FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND CREATIVITY ARE CONSIDERED SUBVERSIVE ? 

I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE A MONARCHISTS. AN MKO, A REPUBLICAN OR COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST ! I KNOW PEOPLE FROM ALL THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHO EITHER LIKE ME OR HATE ME. WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS IF THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY SAY AND ARE SINCERE !

WHAT YOU JUST WROTE IS WORST THAN AN INSULT IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO CORRUPT ME TO SATISFY YOUR VIEWS ADDED TO YOUR THREAT :

"And don't ignore all the good things I'm saying to you. You'll be sorry when our paths cross in real life!" -Iranian Reader

WHERE IS THE MONITOR "Moderator 1234" ON THIS SITE ? TO MODERATE YOUR THREAT !

IF YOU ARE SO OLD AND FRAIL THEN YOU SHOULD REMEMBER WHAT YOUR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS TOLD YOU ABOUT WWII AND THE NAZI's AND FASCIST IDEOLOGIES, AND SHOULD MOVE FORWARD TO INFORM AND DENOUNCE REVISIONISTIC COMMENTS ON THAT ERA !

SHAME ON THE IRANIAN DIASPORA COMMUNITY NOT TO DEMONSTRATE MORE ADAMANTLY AND UNITE AFTER 30 YEARS FOR A GOOD AND JUST CAUSE AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE HIGHJACKED OUR PATRIOTISM AND NOW OUR EMOTIONS !

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN NAZANIN AFHSHIN JAM NEEDED YOUR SUPPORT ?

You Can Make a Difference ! By Darius KADIVAR

AND ALL THE INSULTS I GOT FOR IT !

Where Were You guys to Report our Compatriots of the Solidarity of Iranian Intellectuals against the HOLOCAUST DENIALS OF AHMADINEJAD ? Which Apart from me NO ONE BOTHERED TO EVEN MENTION IT on this Website.

Iranian Diaspora Intelligentsia Unite Against Islamic Republic's Holocaust Revisionism By Darius KADIVAR

I ALSO GOT THREATS AND TELEPHONE CALLS BY THE LIKES OF YOU HERE IN FRANCE FOR WHAT I WRITE ON THE IRANIAN AND ELSEWHERE !

I WON'T CHICKEN OUT SIR/MADAME NOR WILL THE IRANIAN PEOPLE !

I DON't JUST WRITE IN THE NAME OF IRAN AND IRANIANS ! I AM EQUALLY INDEPTED TO MY MOTHERS EUROPEAN BACKGROUND AND ALL THAT THEY SUFFERED DURING WWII DUE TO THE NAZI's BRUTALITY.

SO SPARE ME YOUR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ! ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM HAS DONE MORE TO HURT MANKIND AND OUR COUNTRY THAN ANYONE ELSE AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT !

I PREFER AN INSULT FROM A GUY LIKE Q (Who at Least Signs Under his Real Name and Identity and Stand for His Opinions EVEN IF I DON't SHARE THEM) THAN HYPOCRITICAL CYBER FRIENDSHIPS OF YOUR KIND ONLY TO BE STABBED BY THREATS IN RETURN !

FOR AT LEAST WE EXCHANGE IN A FAIR FIGHT ! NOT WITH GUNS BUT WITH THE PEN AND OUR INDIVIDUAL TALENT OR NOT !

THERE IS A PRICE TO WRITING AND FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW THE PREDICAMENT OF HOSSEIN DERAKHSHAN ALSO A FEATURE WRITER ON THIS SITE PROVES TODAY !

IF Q WAS IN THE SAME SITUATION I WOULD EQUALLY SIGN A PETITION FOR HIS LIBERATION AND AS A WRITER TRY TO INFORM PEOPLE ON HIS PREDICAMENT ! I GUESS HE WOULD DO THE SAME !

BUT YOU SIR/MADAM BELONG TO THE ARMY OF ANONYMOUS WRITERS HERE WHO STAND FOR NOTHING BUT THEIR OWN PATHETIC SELVES AND EGO AND WANT TO GIVE MORAL LESSONS TO FEATURE WRITERS ?

SO IF YOUR COMMENT WAS INTENDED AS A THREAT I SUGGEST YOU TO TAKE IT AWAY IMMEDIATELY ! OTHERWISE SIMPLY TAKE CHARGE FOR YOUR OPINIONS AND SAY WHY YOU OPPOSE MINE ?

IF SOME ARE CORRUPTABLE SIR, DARIUS KADIVAR IS NOT !

FOR I DON'T BELONG TO HEZBEH BAAD !

Good Night !

DK

 


Iranian Reader

DK, listen to me again!

by Iranian Reader on

I myself am too old and sad not to shudder at the sight of people like Trita Parsi and am sorry to see unsuspecting people falling for his dokoon. But any good anybody can achieve at this point is cause to rejoice, albeit grudgingly!

But to hell with NIAC... you know what I always liked about you? Your old-world gentlemanliness -- I don't care how old or young people are, we need that. Please don't lose that persona! And don't ignore all the good things I'm saying to you. You'll be sorry when our paths cross in real life!


rosie is roxy is roshan

PS Sorry I wrote that when DK's post wasn't there yet and when

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

I posted it I saw DK's post...well I am leaving it there as a document of my frustration...

(which btw DK if you want a laugh, check out today's quiz...Q, suggest you don't or you will get mad at me and say THIS ISN'T FUNNY!!!!

and it ISN'T!

but you DO have to admit...it's damn ABSURD...

prepostrous...absurd...

Peace Now.

R.

BIIIIIG PS. DOTTING MY OWN I's AND CROSSING MY OWN T'S: Q DID NOT SAY HE IS PRO-IRI, HE SAID HE IS ANTI-WAR AND HIS STANCE IS CONCILIATORY.


rosie is roxy is roshan

Spelling and Cease Fire dk/q

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

1) TI asked Dick Davis and he toldd me these are the correct rules for the transliterations:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcK5fiyehas

2) I want to make a couple of comments on what I saw happening here at the start and end, if I sound like a school marm and you don't like me that shouldn't make much difference, hate is popular here these days.

Q wrote the blog about cease fire, about peace. It is very sad that has become an on-gong bitter feud between two of the most high-profile members of the blogging community and a skillful one too because boy you two can write, and this could go on FOREVER. I believe Q began with a brief statement of his position at the beginning of the blog because people are always "demanding" he articulate it clearly and so he tried to. I believe he did it in good faith to show that there are many possible sides but we should all want peace, and I think the intention of his doing it has been completely misunderstood. I think it has also been missed that he spoke of reflexive extreme reactions against Israel and Zionists as being equally harmful as those against the supporters of the Palestinians.

The articulation of the postiion at the begining already being a calculated risk, Q did make a mistake in the use of language when he said that anti-IRI Iranians were ignorant, prejudiced and anti-Islamist. It is a legitimate viewpoint, myself if I wished to articulate it would have said something like:. "Some Iranians hereare uninformed of the full situation, and while they may not realize it, harbor anti-Islamic biases..." etc., espeicially being we are trying to communicate here among dedicated people in a close community rather than your average Joe (or aveerage Ahmad...). Like Q siad once on a moderation blog, the real battles are fought out amongst us on the blogs, the articles are more for the general (and VAST) readership).  Predictablye Q's characterization made Darius see red, and that is why he thought Q was calling him an asshole (bad word choice Q in a blog on cease fire...). However Darius is very well-schooled in hermeneutics and the sentence obviously did not say that .

Well, if nothing else at least that got settled!  Asshole did not mean all anti-IRI Iraninas.

What else is being settled here? This whole exchange is getting painful to watch and I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. The wounds are very deep, the current stances on Is/Pal correspond as you know to stances that brought real wars and tortures and deaths to people's friends and families not long ago, not to mention what is happening today in IRI. This is an old festering sore and the Gaza situation is making it gangrenous. Myself personally I would rather you cease fire or cease blog before the gangrene gets so bad amputation is necessary. The two of you are two brilliant. This can go on forever, with each of you finding more nuanced and subtle ways of battling...but to what end?

My own view is that the best thing that could be gotten out of this blog at this time is an understanding of how the failure to communicate began from the start and laid the foundations for things to only get ugly, how there were good intentions there and how things could be improved in the future.

Beyond this, all these who knows more etymologies and what language can I pull out of my hat next to ostracize or mreo include whoever and what not...it's just gangrene LITE.

My personal  preference:  cease fire or cease blog.

Or both.

--Rosie

PS I do not need to be acknowledged and frankly I don't wish to. I do not think I said anything debate-worthy, the deatils are not important in what I said, it is the SPIRIT, not the LETTER, and I don't need either thanks or no thanks or f. you's, I've heard them all before. Please just cease fire or cease blog.  Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. If you two brilliant people can't make nay progress with each other, who can, and do we all have to wait until the entire planet gets blown up?


Darius Kadivar

Le "Q" Entre Deux Chaises ;0))

by Darius Kadivar on

No Khadivar was the name of a good Bah'ai friend of ours in Shiraz. Unfortunately for him, your Friends sent him to the Death Squads and Executed him for his faith. But well that is another story ...

As for Kadivar it also derives from a "Kingly" definition and means "Kad Khoda" Or Land Lord !

Darius is the name my parents gave me in tribute to two people they admired most:  Darius Milhaud a French Jewish Composer and the Greatest Persian King : Darius The Great as he was known to all by the Father of History Herodotus. And it is this spelling I use in my english conversations and my French and American Passports because it corresponds to how all English/French/Francophone/Anglo Saxon Encyclopedias use to refer to that MAJESTIC KING and TALENTED MUSICIAN. Otherwise I could well use Khateh Meekhi or Hebrew for each one. Its a question of Cosmopolitanism you see But that I'm afraid is something too sophisticated for people like you to understand. As For Dariush it is the way I am called by my friends and family.      

Cheers MON Q and Have A Nice Weekend ... LOL

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8AqqIztTk


Q

Kadivar,

by Q on

actually, it seems you are a bit ignorant of the correct spelling of the Shahname character. It's not "Kioumarz" but "Keyumars" as translated in literature.
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyumars

So, let me know after you get some more studying done. At that point, you may come to the conclusion that Iranians do not use the latin alphabet and there are no rules for translating personal names. This why "Qumars" is a common spelling, in fact more respectful to the original as it has a chance of being pronounced more correctly.

But your own name is curious. Isn't Daryoush the Persian version of the greek name "Darius"? What about your last name? Is it supposed to be "Khadivar" ? Or is it "Kadu-var"? Perhaps "Kadu-sar"? Just curious, does your pumpkin-head fit in the toilet?

relax! This is just a matter of taste and you are free to name yoruself whatever you want. It's your choice! Don't take it as an insult because I will end this sentence with ":0)"

Now I understand you think it's important to call Mojahedeen your brothers in arm and you think someone who has lost family members to them should just laugh it off with some 1950's videos which amuse your aging fantasies!!! but I'm talking about a genocide killing children at this very moment. So, respectfully, if you have nothing worthy to contribute,
va-t'en, mon ami :))::)))00000)))))::)00):):)


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Well Then

by Anonymous112 (not verified) on


Hajminator

Merci DK,

by Hajminator on

Oui je vois ce que tu veux dire ;-) Einstein disait "Deux choses sont infinies : l’Univers et la bêtise humaine. Mais, en ce qui concerne l’Univers, je n’en ai pas encore acquis la certitude absolue." Comme quoi la connerie humaine lui collera à ses basquettes jusqu'au bout.

Je continuerai à te lire et visionner ce que tu nous envoies avec plaisir.

Bon WE à toi.


Darius Kadivar

Hajminator Sans Rancune Mon Frere ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Sans Rancune Mon Frere. Salut Tu Vas Bien ?

Cher Ami et Frere  je pense exactement comme toi et certains monarchists sont tout simplement des cons ( Surtout En France). Mais heureusement pas tous ni toutes ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uHikQqc4ik

PS: Juste pour l'info et sans aucun rapport direct Ce clip est sorti au moment de la guerre du Golf ( Le Premier en 90 avec George Bush Pere, mais le second si on se refere au Persian Gulf que les Francais hypocritement appel parfois seulement Golf ou Golf Arabo Persique) Comme Quoi Parfois ... ;0)


Hajminator

DK, t'es très drôle ;-)

by Hajminator on

Non, la honte (pour revenir au clip) ne m'envahit pas puisque je ne suis pas communiste, ni un gauchiste - un peu tendance socialo mais c'est tout.

Ce que je hais le plus dans ce monde, ce sont les mullahs (Si tu ne me crois pas, je peux t'inviter à lire un poème que j'ai écrit à leur égard //iranian.com/main/2008-382 - D'après tes dires un peu avant, on est en quelque sorte des frères ;-)) ). Je pense franchement que l'ami en question ne soit pas un supporteur de ces monstres, J'ai même lu de lui qu'il ne l'était pas. 

Je n'aime pas particulièrement les gens qui croient en Dieu et qui le font savoir. Mais je respecte leurs points de vu. Je comprends que certains dans ce monde aient besoin de la foi religieuse pour trouver leur chemin bien que je sois moi-même laïque.

Voilà c'est à peu près tout de moi, je n'ai pas ton talent pour trouver des clips qui vont à mes dires; mais chacun son dada comme on dit. 

Sans rancune, tu peux me croire, je t'aime bien (bien que je ne sois pas moi-même un monarchiste  ;o))

 


Azadeh Azad

Can we do something useful for the Gazans?

by Azadeh Azad on

Yes, we can. We can help "Avaaz.org" to amplify its cease-fire call, by donations, large or small:

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/gaza_peace_ads/

We can also help the injured and maimed Gazans by donating to the Red Crescent or the Red Cross.

//www.palestinercs.org/Donate_online.aspx

//www.redcross.org/article/0,1072,0_312_8556,0.html

Azadeh


Darius Kadivar

Quand A Hajminator ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

On dirait Cher Ami que votre Humour et a geometrie Variable selon le direction du vent ? C'est Fort Facheux ...

Vous ne serez pas un peu rouge Socialo-Communist tendance Moncuq ?

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAnCTMkqY8

Bon Weekend Cher Ami,

D


Darius Kadivar

MON Q t'est Co-"Q" ... ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

I suggest you learn a little more about the Real Iranians and start by spelling your name Correctly it can help your lost and confused soul. Qumars is Spelled Kioumarz with a "K" like in Kia ( from which it derives in the Indo European Language and phonetics) which means "Crown" in ancient Persian. Like in "Kiarostami", Get it ? I know this first hand for my late father Khoda Biamorz first name was Kioumarz. But well you are Perfectly Free to Use "Q" after all its a question of "Taste". I personally Prefer a "Crown" to a Toilet-Headed Turban" on my head or to which I could relate to. Mais Bon A Chacun Ses Gouts n'est pas ? ;0)

Care for some Sauerkraut a "la Mode de Chez Nous" En France ? Just to cool down your hyper tension so early in the Year 2009 !

Best. And Peace Indeed !

DK

 


Darius Kadivar

While You are At it Irandokht ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Tell your Fellow Comrads at NIAC particularly Trita to also look into the whereabouts of one of our former regular feature writers Hossein Derakhshan who also thought he could still Trust the IRI Mafia in Iran. I don't want to see the poor fellow end up like the same one I posted previously or end up dead in some anonymous graveyard or die in a cold cell in EVIN Prison under SAVAMA Torture Methods.

//www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5190462.ece

I am Sure Agha Doctor Trita Parsi with his connections with the Iranian Moderates and Reformists can help put an end to the poor fellows predicament and guarantee his Liberation in good physical and psychological condition.

Oh And next time you criticize me in public Use YOUR REAL NAME AND AVATAR. We Live in an Age where One has to Stand Up for his or Her Ideas in Full Transparency and be Accountable for our Opinions be it by respect for Those REAL Friends ! ...

DK aka Athos, Porthos, and Aramis, United !

 


rosie is roxy is roshan

i just want to let you all know that i am...

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

flagging the fish below azadeh, this is EXACTLY the kind of goldfish that starts all the trouble on the threads and especially now when everyone's already so tense...and then starts the fights with jj on the moderation blogs about we should get rid of the goldfish...cowardly people hiding behind the privilege of being anonymous to make more trouble between us...i think we should start MULTIPLE flagging these people until jj gets the message that he doesn't HAVE to accommodate every single sociopath on earth. It doesn't matter what you think of dk, no one has any right to say ANYTHING  REMOTELY like this ANONYMOUSLY....

please keep flagging people like this, we have enough on our plate already...we don't need more trouble...

roxane


Azadeh Azad

Israel does not want ceasefire

by Azadeh Azad on

For now, these are the slides from its crimes in Gaza

//sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/12/29/gaza-massacre-slideshow/

Azadeh 


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forget Darius

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

he lost his mind a long time ago and now is chasing any shadow to make sure it's "IRI" supporter. lost complete touch with reality.

it is good to know that ZioPigs don't support an immediate stop of the bloodshed. very good to know.


Kaveh Nouraee

Sometimes Humor is Needed

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Because after watching those videos DK posted, I want to scream.

 


Zion

Cease Fire

by Zion on

There will be a cease fire when the military capability and infra structure of Hamas is taken out so that no more missiles are sent into Israeli territory to kill Israeli civilians. Period.


Hajminator

The truth is

by Hajminator on

It was all my fault and I apologize for my silly reaction. I was tired of some childish reactions here to events which are crimes against humanity and I found DK's comment and his clip very funny (as I usually do).

I have respect for Q's ideas, as he really believes on what he says and defends them eloquently. 

He has already denied any support to IRI and it sufficies to me. There are some of his standings that I do not share as it should inversely be the case.

Sorry again :)


IRANdokht

You want to know what's really funny?

by IRANdokht on

I defended SCE campaign when David and SCE were criticized for not speaking of the human rights activists, jailed students and journalist in Iran and only working for the rights of the juvenile offenders (which some people called chaaghoo-kesh). There were a group of critics who would accuse them on having an agenda, because there were more important people to fight for and speak of, than the group SCE was concentrating on.

Just like I have to defend the ones who speak of human rights violations and war crimes in Gaza when some are accusing us to have an agenda since we're concentrating on that instead of IRI crimes.

see the parallel?

I defended SCE then, and I am defending the ones who are speaking up now too. My conscience is clear because I don't jump ship and I don't side with power. 

Now if you tell jokes when you're stressed, that's fine, but shouldn't it also be ok if I lose my sense of humor when stressed? People aren't the same no matter how many links of Satrapi you copy/paste here to provide proof. 

We're all expressing our opinions and ourfeelings, some are also making the extra effort of pointing fingers towards the rest to make ridiculous accusations, and classify "real patriots" vs "apologists" based on their views of the Gaza massacre.

Lets just say:  I don't like hypocrisy. SCE can pick one group of people to fight for despite more urgent "politically correct" activitists, and a real Iranian patriot can also criticize Israel for their criminal actions despite what's going on in Iran.   

I hope I was clear

IRANdokht


Darius Kadivar

Irandokht Spare me YOUR "Political Correctness"

by Darius Kadivar on

Make yourself useful and ask your Favorite PHD Graduates in International Politics at NIAC and their Fan Club Members you belong to, to investigate on the source of the following Video and the identity of this poor young 17 year Old dead boy who was alledgedly in Khomeiny Shahr.

 

در این ویدئو جسد حمید رضائی نوجوان 17 ساله جانباخته در درگیریهای محرم در خمینی شهر را مشاهده مینمائید
این درگیریها بین عزاداران و نیروهای نظامی به مدت دو روز در این شهر در جریان بود و باعث بازداشت و زخمی شدن دهها نفر گردید.

Unlike YOU and Your "NEW FRIENDS" I don't jump to quick conclusions and try to give lessons to others on what they should do or not do or Their Sense of Humor.

In an Era of Intolerance and Blind Hatred Humor is the LAST RESORT OF THE DESPERATE AND OF ANY HUMANIST. If you don't believe me Ask Marjane Satrapi !

//www.payvand.com/news/08/jan/1102.html

Apart from that my advice to you would be to  take a few steps out of the debate and look at the Global Picture and the Huge Challenges that we are going to be faced with in the advent of this local Gaza Crisis.

It is one of most challenging intellectual, Philisophical , economic and cultural dillemmas that Humanity has faced since the advent of the 21st century and more further back to that of the end of WWII. All Ideologies from Capitalism ( if one can really call it an ideology that is for I would call it simply an economic model of society) to Communism in all its different forms ( Marxism, Trotskism, Leninism, Stalinism) and todays Islamic Fundamentalism ( that has joined hands with Fascism and Nazism be it in vocabulary) have all collapsed or discredited. In the face of this ideological vaccum ANY IDIOT can offer an Alternative without thinking of the consenquences and his or her responsability . and as a result be hailed as a genius just Like Khomeiny, Lenin or Stalin or Hitler who thought that Evil was JUST ON ONE SIDE !. 

When it comes to HIGHJACKING  Emotions just as OUR PATRIOTISM The IRI and their Supporters and Apologists have ALWAYS been experts.

You want to make the same mistake as your elders with the CINEMA REX Tragedy by immediately taking sides and not evaluating the consenquences by endorsing people who are also distorting terms like "Holocaust" or "Genocide" Or "Ethnic Cleasnsing" Out of Context.

By Endorsing such Outrageous and purely Emotional comments you become the tools of the Extremist who you probably despise as much as me: LE PEN, THE IRI or ANY OTHER ASSHOLE LIKE AHMADINEJAD AND CO:

IRI Support for HAMAS: ( BBC Report which is often Left Wing in its analysis is begining to also ask the right questions, I hope so for their sake at least)

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/01/08/iran-takes-advantage-gaza-crisis

LE PEN CLaiming Concentration Camp in Gaza :

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/01/08/gaza-concentration-camp-says-far-right-politician-jean-marie-le-pen

IRI GIVES VOICE TO NEO NAZI REVISIONISTS LIKE MICHELLE RENOUF (BUT CALLS HER A HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST):

She is feeling sorry for Hamas too :

Like David ET ( who was also a good cyber Friend of yours l believe) I do not endorse this Disastrous Military Operation and as an Outsider to this conflict between two people I refuse to target one People as entirely responsible. The Israelis are accountable for any crime commited during this Operation and if ever this leads to a Tribunal to decide on the responsabilities of those involved in any unjustified killings of civilians if you please like the La Hague Tribunal for Ex Yougoslavia which has brought War Criminals like Milosevitch or Karachik to trial, I will trust the decision of such a recognized and impartial Tribunal.

Apart from that I repeat that I do not oppose a cease Fire but I do not consider the HAMAS, its NIHILIST ideology or its leaders as representative of the Palestinian People in any way. They are supported by Iran's clerical regime and as such I DO NOT consider them or their cause as an Ally of the Iranian people nor is their plight a priority to the cause of Democracy in IRan.

TRUTH HURTS BUT HAS TO BE SAID FOR THE SAKE OF HONESTY AND CREDIBILITY.

My Conscience Is Clear !


rosie is roxy is roshan

Humor is knwon to come up sometimes when people are

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

gettnig very upset or nervous, sometimes it's a conscious way to try to defuse the stiuation but it can backfire, sometimes it's a subconscious way of dealing with negative feelings coming up (about self or others or life in general..). In any case it's true, tensions are running SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO high!  Want to blow off some steam? I just posted a new blog specifically for that purpose...to talk about some things...ANY things...we might have in common and be able to really LAUGH about without hurting nanyone's feelings unintentionally. Because no one's doing it intentionally, that I know...

except SOME of these fish pretending to me goldfish when they are really barracudas...and cowards, big cowards, oh boy if you are registered and hiding behind these little orange scaley hand grenades of yours...

r.

R.


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Things are geting very

by Boushehri (not verified) on

Things are geting very heated here!
I hear things from people I don't expect!
Please think before you leave comments
And kindly get a grip people.
This subject is NOT funny. Not Funny at all.


IRANdokht

Dear Iranian Reader

by IRANdokht on

That was exactly what I was thinking too. 

Especially after hearing about the deadly attacks on UN, Red Cross and humanitarian aids by Israeli tanks in Gaza killing and injuring aid workers, who can possibly see humor when discussing a cease fire...

IRANdokht


Iranian Reader

I am a fan of DK but

by Iranian Reader on

I am disappointed at this mirth making at this particular time. There are times that I for one lose my sense of humor.