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by Nokhod

i tried to find another place for this card on JJ's site. i couldn't. i don't know where to put it. anyone knows?


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by maziar 058 (not verified) on

I know my friend please dig for some more pics. I missed Tehran, all the way before the 79's estefragh........
hope you can find more memorabillias.


Not my idea, BASHGAH's idea!

by Nokhod on

I found this card in our basement recently. I am not pro CHADOR or against it.
There is a little 4D(!?)theater in park SAEE in Tehran. When I wanted to buy a ticket last month while visiting, they refused to sell me one because I was MOJARAD! I didn’t like it and I felt discriminated. Someone mentioned the discrimination by religious people if you wanted to visit a mosque without CHADOR. Maybe we have to accept the sanctity of both places (BASHGAH and MASJED) and respect the rules! I think this is going to be a BIG issue on the first day of free Iran, don’t you think?

ebi amirhosseini

Salty jaan

by ebi amirhosseini on

Thanks for info,you must have had Very very high ranking relatives in Shahrbaani(as your avatar suggests) !,since my Mom's aunt could attend a wedding there ( wearing Chador),only after my dad got a personal recommendation from Raees Shahrbaani of the time.


Let's cherrish our good old memories.

Ebi aka Haaji



by Majid on

You wrote, 

"women should be given the choice and opportunity to be educated and be able to contribute to the society and the choice of her clothing should be left to her!" 

It should be and WILL be "EARNED" and not "given".

Anything that's been given it's destined for revocation. 

Iranian women WILL earn what they rightfully deserve, I'm sure of that.

Fight the darkness with light.


Re: Irandokth

by Anonymous1234 (not verified) on

People ran to the streets because they were fooled by lies, not because of discriminations.

Luckily (or perhaps unluckily), I was there and old enough to witness it first hand myself. You on the other hand were probably no more than a teen ager back then.

So please kindly refrain from giving your seniors lecture on Iran's events of 1979.


Re: Setareh Sabeti

by SangePaayeGhazvin (not verified) on

You are blaming today's enforcement of hejaab on Pahlavis? How far ignorance can go? I don't know, but don't you know something called "Mollah" had more to do with hejab than Pahlavi?

Your blind hatred of Pahlavi is not a reflection of facts, but a reflection of your ignorance, as is blind hatred toward anything else.



well this is my comment!

by Tahirih on

Forcing women to remove hejab and forcing them to wear hejab has one thing in common, and it is undermining her capacity to think and decide for herself.

women should be given the choice and opportunity to be educated and be able to contribute to the society and the choice of her clothing should be left to her! 

As Abdulbaha say;Woman’s lack of progress and proficiency has been due to her need of equal education and opportunity.

Not her choice of clothing!



Ebi Jaan

by SALTY on

Both my sister and my cousin got married there and my grandmother was there on both occasions with chador ofcourse :-)


eey nokhoodi

by maziar 058 (not verified) on

Mrs. N.K not to argue about your comment as whole,agreeing to personal part of it the hurttings....
But come on it was a family gathering in a CLUB not khone zahra khanoom capisc ?
in the same club today if someone enters chadoor or hijab less will be given pink slip too.
eey nokhoodi don't you have pictures of bash gah mohandessin onvar vanak too,funfare,vanak drive in
who liked to go to ghasre yakh wearing chadoor ? seriously? in your memory lane SANDOOGH to show us PLEASE.



by mazfaz on

The discrimination of ecclesiastical class of the society during Shah's reig and the intimidation of secular practice under the current islamic rule are both unjustifiable.


Setareh Sabety

Pahlavi Arrogance and Stupidity

by Setareh Sabety on

Thank you Nokhod for posting this. No wonder we are forced to wear the hejab now. I read a zan-e-rooz article which I used for an article on Googoosh

(5 -- See Zan-e-Rouz, Tehran (1976): "do nameh as dokhtaran chadori," in which two letters signed anonymously complain about the magazine's constant effort to degrade the veiled woman. I am grateful to Jahanshah Javid for pointing out this letter and much more about Googoosh which appeared on his website, " Iranian.com")

We are still paying for the incredible arrogance and endless stupidity of the Pahlavis and their cronies! In the end this is their most lasting legacy: To have alienated and angered much of the population to the point where they embraced the sharia and the Ayatollahs.


"No chadori allowed"

by daryaa (not verified) on

"No chadori allowed" were printed in most bashgah invitations that I remember. Moreover, there was a feeling that chadori and roosari wearing( they were called lachak beh sar) women were backwards.

In general, it wasn't cool to be wearing hejab. I remember one of my classmates was harassed for wearing roosari (covering her forehead style) by our gym teacher who was a woman.

I think only religious people and peasants wore it in those times.

ebi amirhosseini

Salty jaan

by ebi amirhosseini on

One could go to the restaurant(bld on the right) with Chador,but definitely not to the wedding hall(bld on the left). The card as you see is an invitation to a wedding.


Ebi aka Haaji


Couple of notes about this

by SALTY on

Couple of notes about this card:

1- My grandmother used to wear chadoor before the revolution(she stopped wearing it after the revolution). We used to go to Bashgah e Shahrebani quite often and I dont remember anyone stoping her from entering!

2- Removel of hejab by force was a necessity at the time since because of the culture of the time, many women were afraid to do so on their own, out of fear of being labled as shameless or loose. My aunts used to tell me that they were happy that the law(Kashf e Hejab) came about, since that way they could blame not wearing chador, on Reza shah and enjoy their new found freedom without being ridiculed.

By the way the same grandmother used to hate shah because he took away her lands(Eslahat e Arzi) and used to call him "Mamad Damagh" but started to love him and defend him at the start of the revolution and continued to do so untill she died.


Bashgaah Sherkat Naft...

by Bacheh Shir (not verified) on

With all due respect, none of the other Bashgaah came close to Bashgaah Sherkat Naft in activities and in Haal, but you had to be Shekat Nafti or guest of one to enter! So many memories.....

ebi amirhosseini

Nokhod Jaan

by ebi amirhosseini on

As a lot of you konw ,my father was a police officer,so I give you first hand info:

1-Yes,no Chador,but they could wear "Roosari" & go in.

2-As for 'Weddings',if you had a friend in police force,he could reserve the place for a wedding,& no need for you to have any police relatives.This was true for a good number of other clubs ( banks,Army,...).Apart from that,the use of pool,Monday night  show was only for officers' family,though you could have guests with you for The restaurant.

unfortunately,all of it is wrong,forcing hejab & forcing bihejabi.

I believe that's why in both regims, a lot of poeple feel left out.


Were did you find this card?! brought back a lot of memories for me.



Ebi aka Haaji


Re: Choice

by Souri on

JJ, you are absolutely right on this, from where you are now (I mean in 21 century, in US after going trough what is called an Islamic revolution in our country).....

But if we look at the event of the past, very ponctually, considering the context in which those events had happened, we will be more objective.

If the choice of chador was left to the Iranian of that era, it would be very difficult to fight against backwardness. Now, things are different. People are used to read and study. Regligion, is more a matter of choice than something imposed by some ertejaee mulla.

That's why I think, Reza Shah's decision was irrevocable at that time.


Nokhod jan

by Monda on

This card brought back a childhood memory, thank you for your post! aroossiyeh khaaleh am dar een baashgah bood. Dar blog e Javaad agha minevissam :o) 

I do remember some baashgahs did not allow chadoris or children, I was told for dalaayel e amniyati. Choonke bazi az chadorihaa zir e chadoreshoon maaloom nabood ki boodan yaa chee boodan. Va bachehaa, for obvious reasons, agar khaastee baraat minevissam.. 

Jahanshah Javid


by Jahanshah Javid on

If I HAD to choose between these two options:

A-- Removal of the hejab by force, or
B-- Imposing the hejab by force

I would pick A!

But they are both wrong. It's nobody's business if a woman (adult) chooses to wear the hejab or not.

Thanks for the extremely interesting piece of cultural history Nokhod jan.



by Souri on

I think Reza Shah did a good thing to remove the chador by force!! But somehow, like in any other things, the people who were responsible for that (Jean d'armes...etc) maybe had gone too far. Putting aside some isolated action, I thing it was really a good thing (one of the rare one) imposed to our people.

About refusing women with chador at the wedding: Although I am one of the most ferocious defender of freedom, I don't know why, in this particular case, I approve it (sorry :O)) I thinkseeying a woman with chador could really break something on that well organized wedding. Women of the time, were always able to wear a "rousari" to attend the wedding (more presentable) but not with a chador.  Actually I don't remember whole my life, having seen anybody wearing a chador at a wedding. How about you?



by IRANdokht on

You must not be very familiar with the events of Iran in 79 and prior to it. You're either not iranian (kasseyeh daghtar az ash) or not old enough to have lived through it to comprehend what I am saying.

People did not run to the streets because they were political. They felt as if they were looked over and discriminated against. Khomeini promised them a better life, he talked about sharing the wealth amongst all people. Those were the promises that appealed to people, they couldn't care less about Israel and America back then.

Don't start with the new favorite "shame on you" bashing yet:  I could type slowly if you'd like.



Re: Irandokht

by Anonymous1234 (not verified) on

people weren't really political back then and most had no real reason to revolt except hearing that they'll be counted as equals to...

Really? Sure, Khomeini and his like minded people just wanted to be equals. The khaahar Zeynabs terrorizing Iranian women just wanted to be equals.

The previous "az ma behtaroon" are gone now. I hope you are enjoying the new "az ma behtaroon" who just wanted to be "equals".

Shame on you.


Re: Nazi K.

by AnonymousX (not verified) on

Nazi, you are wrong. In the previous regime, you could wear a chaador if you wanted to, and not wear it if you didn't want to.

Conversely, there were establishements that could not allow chaador. However, they were out numbered by establishements that did not allow entrance by women who were NOT wearing chador.

Did you visit Ghom or Shahaboldazim when you were younger? Did anyone terrorized you for NOT wearing a chador?

It is amazing how even a good thing that was done in the previous regime is criticized by the very same individuals who probably benefited from it the most.

It is just amazing and sad too.

khaleh mosheh

Unusally easy address

by khaleh mosheh on

for a place in Tehran- usually the postal address itself is an essay.

Thanks for posting Nokhod Jan.


On the subject of Iranian addresses there is a Khorsandi sketch covering this in the video below (at 10:57)

Nazy Kaviani

Dear Nokhod

by Nazy Kaviani on

Thanks for sharing this. It does bring back many memories. In more recent years, I seem to recall a line on such admission cards which says: "Az koochooloohaye aziz dar forsat e deegari pazeeraee khahad shod!"

Now, I want to ask you something Nokhod. Do you think it was O.K. not to admit women wearing chadors to public establishments? I think that was really wrong. I think people who were forced out of establishments because of their appearance and their choices of clothing, later came to power and devised rules which made others to wear "good" hejab in order to be admitted.

All of it is wrong. Reza Shah removed the hejab by force and IRI put it back on by force. Such issues have cultural roots which cannot be easily changed by rulers. In the meantime, I hope our nation will become tolerant and accepting of each other one day, where no ruler can force them into any particular dress code.


اشکالی ندارد

رضا خان میر فایو (not verified)

در عوض این سالها ورود خانمهای بد حجاب ممنوع و اطفال زیر 12 سال را عقد میکنند! خوب دنیا همینه دیگه....



by IRANdokht on

Nokhod how many of this pictures do you have? did you send them to JJ?

I'd like to see more.

Jaleho jan:  You're right, the weddings there were real fun!

I learned how to swim in that club-e shahrebani too.  it seems like centuries ago...

But I agree with Anonymously. Some of these actions made people really feel left out. Otherwise, people weren't really political back then and most had no real reason to revolt except hearing that they'll be counted as equals to "az ma behtaroon". 




by Jaleho on

I don't think the place was for Afsaran only. My oldest brother had his wedding in there and we had no afsar in the family. I was small and don't recall why did they have the wedding in Afsari club, but I remember the party as a heck of a fun and good pastry and dancing party.


good enough nokhodi?


No Chador

by Anonymously of course (not verified) on

and that's how so many people felt left out and resented the officers, their families and anyone who worked for the government.
there were a lot of chadori women in Iran, this is just as bad as the new rule of maghnaeh and chador for the government offices.

oghdeh dorost kardan barayeh mardom, pedareh hameyeh maro dar avordan



by Nokhod on

thanks, i got it.