Fate of HODER awaits some IRI supporters in West

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by Monarchy_Forever
19-Mar-2010
 

Many IRI supporters living overseas in the West think that their new freedoms and their allegience to IRI allows them to say what they want and what they feel like.

They pledge allegience to IRI in heart, yet at times put their own spin on things and advocate amongst other things the restoration of US-Iran relations for example (contrary to IRI policy).

They feel their allegience to IRI gives them the latitude to differ with IRI on some "minor" issues.  The only problem is that these "minor" issues in the minds of IRI supporters in West are to some IRI supporters in IRan - "major" issues.

HODER was in the same field.  He differed with IRI on some issues but truly supported IRI.

So he went back, expecting high level reception and perhaps a lecture here or there at a university.  What he instead found out, was that IRI supporters in Iran in the upper eschelon have no room for any newbies.  The more people at the top, the smaller the share of pie for those already embedded up there.

So they treated him instead with suspicion and as a spy - in the true meaning of the word.  They thought it is incomprehensible how a "true" IRI supporter could for example visit Israel, advocate relations with Europe and US.  So to them HODER was the prime example of a "well- trained" Mossad spy trying to infiltrate the regime's halls of power and bring about a "White Revolution" in their minds.

So they treated him far far far worse than say a monarchist that thyey would arrest.  Why? because the monarchist is plain and what he shows on the exterior is what he is at heart.  But HODER to IRI's intelligence services is potentially IRI on the outside but a spy at heart- even though the poor guy is a IRI supporter at heart.  But the intelligence services are not willing to take the chance and let the guy roam freely in Iran and spread his thoughts.

So to all IRI supporters out in the WEST: JUST BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT IRI, doesn't mean you get a carte blanche fro IRI to do as you please.  Instead they will be more suspicious of you and treat you even worse. 

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by Fatollah on Sat Mar 20, 2010 05:25 AM PDT

hey buddy, good work, I think you have hit some nerve, keep up! :)

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by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Sat Mar 20, 2010 04:47 AM PDT

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Hoder wasn't exactly what

by Sargord Pirouz on Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:00 PM PDT

Hoder wasn't exactly what you would call mainstream, or even an element of the establishment. His outspoken political views were expressed unevenly. And he travelled to Israel, which is against the law.

Now we don't know how he fared in custody. It could very well be a situation in certain respects comparable to the conviction of Hamid Hayat of Lodi, California. But again, we don't know.

I don't understand the monarchist reference in this attempted comparison. Monarchists have no relevance inside the Islamic Republic of Iran. They are a fringe, external element, expressed on poorly followed exile TV programming, and that's really about the extent of it.

I don't know any high profile monarchists that are Hoder's age currently in custody in the IRI. If you do, please provide details in order to give this post the meaning it lacks, as is. 


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