Solution to the hijacking of iranian.com

Solution to the hijacking of iranian.com
by MeyBokhor_Manbarbesuzan
02-Feb-2009
 

Since great analysts and ardent contributors Farhad Kashani, samsam1111, and their usual par-gheychees have now through their tireless efforts and research revealed that Iranian.com and its founder JJ are hijacked by un-Iranian elements, I propose the following:

1) Stop whining and form your own site -- a site you make sure no un-Iranian can hijack. You can use JJ's motto with a small variation: Nothing is sacred but some nothings are more sacred.

2) Membership in the site can be granted upon receipt of DNA results certifying non-existence of Arab genes.

3) And finally a picture of the applier with a half open shirt revealing a hairy chest where a golden Faravahar hangs from a ¼ pound chain rivalling those of Hip Hop bands.

There could be other restrictions and I’d welcome reader contributions to the above list. Let us all help this pure Iranian, Non-Muslim, Non-Un-Iranian group achieve their goal of creating the perfect site.

P.S. 1: I would suggest they make the hits counter of their site be hidden to avoid embarrassment.

P.S. 2: They can save their energies and just use the Iranvajahan.org site.

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rosie is roxy is roshan

About Mehdi, you see people this is what I'm trying to

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

tell some of you here there and everywhere onsite in these discussions. It is just one example. Majority here are extremely against the Israeli regime's actions, me too,  and hence frustrated with the argumentation of the major Zionists on this site as well as angry, sometimes disgusted with some of their methods and tactics so to say for asserting themselves. Next thing you know we're doing parallel things, saying this one IS this and that one IS that when we DON'T KNOW, and lumping groups into hulks (these non-Iranians, oops, sorry! didn't mean YOU!), and whitewashing Hamas, etc. And the NEXT thing you know I'm seeing the Ottomans cast as the Gandhis of the Middle East and  "our brothers' (in what? Islam?), etc. Nobody on this thread to my knowledge ever got to those last two grotesque extremes of silly rhetoric but fact is in extremely polarized political situations such as the current one, these things tend to just grow...so VIGILANCE is necessary. Doesn't MATTER when the pot calls the kettle black if the pot is only slate gray and the kettle is ebony. Same phenomen, difference only of degree.

Watch your back. Me too.


Zion

lol

by Zion on

Farshad you guys crack me up! I wasn't proving anything about what Mehdi meant, I just mentioned that the term agha can actually be used correctly for women as well, a couple of your "sensitive" folks had a knee jerk reaction to prove me wrong as usual and, I have proved it with enough references already, and they came out as quite illiterate at the end of it all, if I may say so. So give it a rest, buddy. :-)

Mehdi by the way has clearly stated many times already that he was born in Iran from Iranian Jewish parents and then migrated to Israel where he grew up. So he has a valid excuse for why his Persian might not be all perfect
[I wonder what excuse you people have? ;-)]

Dear Pope, agha in both forms is a Turkish word with Mongolian counterparts. Turkish is being written with Arabic alphabet and its phonetics transliterated with specific Arabic letters for a long time. It is only since Ataturk's time that the language is written in Latin alphabet in Turkey. It is also written with Cyrillic alphabet in former Soviet states.

Haji, high five!


Hajminator

capt_ayhab

by Hajminator on

In Aghayeh noiZ ra dasteh kam naguir.

She knows a lot of thing about us that we don't! Yeah, about our history, language, who we are, who we shall be, ... everything.

Kofr nagham pendari in Agha khodasst.


capt_ayhab

آغا بیگم = اسم

capt_ayhab


آغا بیگم = اسم زنانه
آقا بوئک = اسم مردانه
آغا محمد خان قاجار = بدونه بیضه
با عرض معضرت خدمت همه!

capt_ayhab [-YT]


capt_ayhab

agha begum

by capt_ayhab on

agha begum is really a masculine name which is used originally for elder sister in the family. it is with [ghein] and not with [ghaf],

Agha with [ghein] is used to describe [unic] meaning man without testicles. In Qa'jar dynasty there was a monoarch name [agha mohamad khane qa'jar] 

Agha there is with [ghein] since Agha Mohamad khane Qa'jar was in fact a UNIC.

For fuddge sake, stop teaching Farsi to Iranians.

capt_ayhab [-YT]


Hajminator

ThePope

by Hajminator on

The reality is that after the dynasty of Samanian we had Turkish rulers for centuries long - Ghaznavi-ha, Saljooghian, Kharazmshahian, Attabak-ha, ..., Ghajars, ouff

Imagine how all these selseleha affected our language! I don't know how before attaturk, Turks used to write agha with ghayn or ghaf using arabic symbols to designate men, women, enuks? But, facts are what they are as Dehkhoda pointed it out on this case.

For Khomeini's mother I trust you, I have also heard about it. She was born under the Ghajar's era, that could explain the surname?

For Zion, the fact is that she is everywhere - wondering why? - So it's impossible to go in a room and not to cross her. By the way, I don't want to make Rosie jealous ;)


rosie is roxy is roshan

Aaghaa Pope, please do not insinuate such things about

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Hajminator and Zion.

You will make me jealous!

LOL

Shahparak


ThePope

Hajminator

by ThePope on

Here's a link for Khomeini's mother, since you're VERY MUCH into "links":
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhollah_Khomeini#Ear...
(but, her name was Aajaareh Aaghaa Khaanoom and not Haajieh Aaghaa khaanoom,,,, and his father was AA'Mostafa  aka Mossy shaleh....).
-Zeeyaad beh een "link" haa vaabasteh nabash.

Hajminator jaan,  how can a word written with an arabic letter (alphabet) be turkish?!!!.
(that's all I have to say... :o)  
-Anyways, never mind,,, I'm probably wrong...

ps  Haaji, do you have a "crush" on Zion?! Wherever she goes, your there too...! ;-)    -ay nagholaa
Haalaa shod "noiz"(!)-e maa?!!!   


Hajminator

ThePope

by Hajminator on

What are you telling man? You are saying that Dehkhoda had to come meet you to write his encyclopedia? Follow the link I posted.

Agha with ghayn is Turkish as Agha with ghaf. But we Iranians, use to emply almost exclusively the word Agha with ghaf as Mister. And, that everyone knows.

For Khomeini's mother I don't know. Don't want to make fool of someone who is not here. But your noiZ has a theory: Cyrus was the first Zionist! And, Mahmoud has Jewish roots, so why not Khomeini? He could be an Indian Jewish who came from Turkey. That explains a lot of things.

By the way, Rosie jan did you know that shahparak is a butterfly and also the most popular 56371.st name in USA ?
//www.pokemyname.com/firstname_58834_shaparak...

Beautiful name isn't it?


ThePope

Dear Robin is Rosie is Roxy is Roshan is Roshanak is Shaaparak

by ThePope on

No, I'm not being ironic...
It's for real!
Khomeini's mother's name was ".... Agha" (Mr.)!!!! lol  :-)
-I'm serious,,, just google it and find out for yourself...
(Probably, it will show: Haajeeyeh Aaghaa khaanoom, which is BS.... Her name was Aajaareh Aaghaa Khaanoom.
Even "khomeini's"(!) name is not Moosavi (!)... I'll blog about it one day,,, about his real name...) 

Dear Zion,  Agha is a Persian word, a pure Persian word, meaning "mister". Agha is RARELY used today to address a Women. It's not Mongolian, Indian, arabic or a turkish word.
The turks have been stealing our culture for centuries...
[even if written with the arabic letter "ghayn"(!) it's not turkish!!!]

Farshad jaan, if you have seen any of Samad's (Parviz Sayyad) movies, you should know who is (was) Naneh Aaghaa...
BTW, Naneh Agha doesn't mean "paternal grandmother" or "mother in law".

But, it's not important,, you're right; who cares...


rosie is roxy is roshan

Farshad,

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Mehdi said he's not Iranian? He doesn't have Iranian family either? When did he say that?

btw I think the Pope was being ironic...


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Give it up Zion!

by Farshad R. (not verified) on

No, Zion, I’m afraid you can’t get your foot out of your mouth on this one. You did make a fool out of yourself with that earlier post, giving us a lecture and you are now just grasping at straws, trying to find a confirmation! So just drop it now before you dig yourself in any deeper!

Use of the name Agha for women has not been in contemporary practice for well over a century. The example of Hajieh Agha Khanum, Khomeini’s mother’s name, only shows that someone was named that about 130 years ago (born in 1902, Khomeini himself would have been 107 years old this year).

The Pope’s second example is either a joke or written without proper knowledge. In rural and provincial Iran, people call fathers and husbands Agha. Naneh Agha means either paternal grandmother or mother-in-law.

There is no way you can justify Mehdi Mazloom’s addressing a woman as Agha in contemporary Farsi language. Why are you trying so hard? Who cares anyway? Mehdi Mazloom has admitted that he is not an Iranian and it is obvious that he doesn’t know the language, at least not very well, so why the insistence to prove that he was correct when he wasn’t? What’s the agenda now Zion?


Zion

Dear P.o.p.e

by Zion on

Is that for real? Khomeini's mother was an agha too?
haha the irony of it. These bunch don't even know their lessons about their own Imam... .


Parthian

This is not about Arabs as an ethnicity

by Parthian on

Mey bokhor and his supporters are the real racists. No one here has used the word Arab in a racial or ethnical context. None of us are talking about ethnic purification. What we are talking about is cultural purification.

Remember the revolution slogan, Na gharbee, na sharghee, jomhuriye islamee! Just as Westoxification, and its excesses were bad for Iran, so is Arabization. The only difference is that Western cultures have much more useful elements to be salvaged and adapted than the arab culture of 14 centuries ago. The real racist are you guys who see our attack on the arabization of Iran as a racial issues. I don't see it as that. There is no doubt that arab culture and religion has been supreme in Iran in the past 30 years. That is bad for Iran, and her identity.

Now go call me a racist, and demagogue the issue as you are so expert at doing.


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Agha (aaghaa) like;

by T.h.e.P.o.p.e. (not verified) on

-Aajaareh Aaghaa Khaanoom, khomeini's mother...
(also known as Haajieh Aaghaa!!!!!)

oh, yeah! Naneh Aaghaa! (Samad's mother :o)


rosie is roxy is roshan

It's amazing...this blog already has

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

eighty five million posts.  I propose:

a five minute Innocence Break, all you Aghas and Aghaesses. Then back to our very own virtual Gaza. The future of humanity lies right here on these threads. How lucky can you get? 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iK9PLdVXK4


Zion

Here is another one

by Zion on

'Mirza Abolhassan was married to Kokab-ol-Hajieh Khanoum "Qajr Agha (آغا)" daughter of Mirza Mehdi Khan Qajar Davaloo...'

//home.online.no/~hhakimi/album/fore/abolhass...

:-)

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Dear Sam,
no one has disputed the gradual change of usage or even meaning in languages. It is a completely irrelevant issue here. The male usage for "agha" itself is clearly changed from elder brother to lord and master, as I initially stated. To bring this up is just to try to avoid the clear examples I gave of the usage of the term in Iran and in Persian. Therefore your Ebi's claim:

'The word has the meaning of "Lady" in its original language / etymological application;but nonetheless it is not used as the original meaning in Farsi.'

is patently false, as the examples I have provided clearly demonstrate.


Hajminator

Sorry to disturb your Begoo-Magoo party

by Hajminator on

But, please stop to push it far. Agha with ghayn is a turkish word!
//www.loghatnaameh.com/dehkhodaworddetail-36f...
You're not telling us that you use all the ME languages, as you like, coz you think that the whole region already belongs to Israel!

 


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Mehrnaz could very well be a

by bobak (not verified) on

Mehrnaz could very well be a male Kurdish or Afghani name. Some female Iranian names are 'male' names in Afghani or Kurdish.

The name Kianoosh could be both female and male. There were other names but I can't think of them right now.

Can someone verify with an Afghani or a Kurd speaking source?


rosie is roxy is roshan

Wanna hear something REALLY funny /fearless leader

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

Here's something REALLY funny about Mehrmaz's "diatribes". Mehrmaz is one of the ONLY people here who has said that she feels there may be some bias here on the as it is now called Ommati "side" who is not on the so-called Ziopig "side".  I'm not so convinced about her spy theory, but the part I just said I know for sure. Isn't that just a barrel of laughs?  Hilarious.

As for our Fearless leader, praise the Lord! Last I heard he'd been kidnapped by Omatti terrorists. I believe he has escaped and is safe and sound, unharmed, unchanged, unruffled, and without an ounce of Stockholm Syndrome.

Let us all give thanks in a moment of silent prayer.

LOL

Roxy


Zion

Nice try

by Zion on

but I did not use the Iranica link for the "lady" usage [nevertheless the link did actually clearly demonstrate that the usage of the title "agha" for women goes all the way back to the original roots as well, which is nice. :-)]

For that I had the link to some guy's family tree inside Iran from the Bakhtiari family (tribe?) (and in not so distant past either) with at least one wife having the appellation "agha" after her name (the one but last from top to bottom.), namely: Bibi agha Begum.

[Lol. Sure gotta love the vain attempts of you guys to do damage control. Is it painful to "lose" to a "Zionist"? The "honor"'s hurt? ;-) As if any of such details matter in the "logic" of this Mehrnaz agha's original diatribes anyway!]


ebi amirhosseini

"shift of meaning/word application" in linguistics..

by ebi amirhosseini on

The word has the meaning of "Lady" in its original language / etymological application;but nonetheless it is not used as the original meaning in Farsi.One can find many examples in any language:

Farsi : Reesh(injury)- Reesh(beard).

Farsi : French,evolvs into : Farang(abroad....) & Farangi(foreigner) 

//ali.mamouri.com/129

//www.aariaboom.com/content/view/1120/30/

//www.khaalefer.com/87/BANK/B%20(2)/file/87029.htm

Ebi aka Haaji


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To MRX1 (khali)

by MRX11111111 (not verified) on

Hey dude, we have our site and it's this one. A bug free, nice site that even Zionists wanna occupy.

You, go and make a better one if you can. Here some suggestions:

www.DarehMatahtehAjnabi4Ever.org
www.Illf---EveryIraniansWhoDisagree.com
www.WeRABunchOfLoosers.com
www.ZionIsGood.org
www.PatriotsGholabiBa1001Effadeh.com


Jahanshah Javid

Fight on!

by Jahanshah Javid on

If you think I care one bit who says what about me or this site... It's pro-IRI, Islamist? Ok. It's pro-Western, Zionist? Fine. It's pornographic? Whatever. It's too this, too that... too bad!

Not that it will make any difference in the way you think or what you write, but I'd like to assure you that I don't spend one second reading what you have to say.

I know you don't believe me but iranian.com is not the battleground of Good against Evil. You want to fight Islam or the IRI or the Israelis or the Americans? You know very well where they are, and it ain't here.

You cyber warriors don't have an ounce of courage in you. You are unwilling to lift a finger or spend a dime for ANY cause. Instead you sit and punch the keyboard all day, every day, thinking you are fighting some epic battle.

That's ok googooli moogoolis. Fight on! I'm glad iranian.com keeps you busy. We don't want you running around in the real world, khodaye nakardeh :o)


capt_ayhab

Ms. Curly

by capt_ayhab on

One word of advise from another new kid in the BLOG[block], if I may say so.

So as long as you say things that is tasteful to, let say Ms. Zion, you are loved and praised. 

But God help you if you decide to tell the truth and disagree with her. Or say anything other than [bah bah o chah chah] about Israel.

Just wanted to share my experience with you dear lady.

Respectfully

capt_ayhab [-YT]


rosie is roxy is roshan

No, Mehrmaz, I don't think any of the things you say are

by rosie is roxy is roshan on

not your concerns are concerns of yours. I also know that you are not an ideologically polarized person and are very fair-minded. I just brought them up to try to point out some underlying assumptions and ramifications that the general discussion might have built into them...in terms of how the majority side may so easily see what the minority side does w/out looking at what they do. I did address that post to you but it was really meant for the general readership.

Anyway I am in the middle of a protracted (and perhaps somewhat acrimonious) discussion with MM, I'll try to remember to direct him here to address the Agha issue.  :o)

Roxane


capt_ayhab

Suggestion to AGHA JJ

by capt_ayhab on

This site is NOT dual font friendly, or its my ignorance? I am certain Mr. Foaad can easily remedy this issue.

Thanks

capt_ayhab [-YT]


Zion

Indeed dear curly

by Zion on

You can also take a look at the video link I posted in answer to this lovely Mahernaz agha here to see how similar these people's rants are to Nazi propaganda. But we all should be expecting this stuff all over this place by now, shouldn't we?
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By the way, funny how this blog was so proudly featured on the first page. Now it is been quitely de-featured again (for the time beingat least.) I think the discussions were too much of an expose and needed some damage control! lol.


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Rats? You take it the way it makes you feel a victim if you wish

by Mehrnaz (not verified) on

Zion, Don't try to blackmail me by the usual cliches. Most people on this site are far too intelligent to fall for that. You are a rat because of your racist arrogant attitude and absence of any compassion towards people who are being brutalised, as we have witnessed amply on this website. Did you not know that?

Talking of racism, the PERSONS acting under the name Masloum repeatedly call Arabs and Muslims brutes. Let me give you a couple of examples if you really need educating about racism, just a few tasters because there is plenty you can relish on:

"The New York Times (REUTERS) Published: April 1, 1988
LEAD: As Israel prepared to lift a three-day blockade of the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir warned today that rioters would be crushed ''like grasshoppers.''

Mr. Shamir, standing atop an ancient West Bank castle, told reporters: ''Anybody who wants to damage this fortress and other fortresses we are establishing will have his head smashed against the boulders and walls.'' In remarks aimed at Arab rioters, the Prime Minister said: ''We say to them from the heights of this mountain and from the perspective of thousands of years of history that they are like grasshoppers compared to us.''

//query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940...

“[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs.”—Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, Begin and the “Beasts,” New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

This does not mean that all Jews and Israelis think so obscenely but this attitude has been central and essential to the occupation and expansion, as is the case in all colonial settler societies.

Zion dear, perhaps try to read some history, try to watch some videos of Gaza and the settlers and may be you will feel differently, and a lot better about yourself. I can't do much to improve your self-image. I can only offer advice and that is GO for PEACE.


Zion

Nope

by Zion on

It does come from the word for elder brother:
//www.iranica.com/newsite/index.isc?Article=h...
//www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=aga
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agha_(Ottoman_Empire)#Etymology

and it is recorded to have been used as a title for women as well.
Example:
//www.bakhtiarifamily.com/charts/SardarZafar....