The solution to the World Problems, the Baha'i belief in Politics

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09-Sep-2011
 

The Baha'i Faith and Politics - Dr Moojan Momen - July 3, 2011 - Toronto

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Tabarzin

Reality_Bites

by Tabarzin on Sat Sep 10, 2011 03:48 AM PDT

Everyone has problems. There is no person, let alone community, immune to this fundamental fact of life. We come to this world loaded with problems. We leave it full of problems. If you know a fool-proof method or way out of problems, I hereby unequivocally pay you allegience and wish to be your disciple!

All kidding aside, whoever and whatever the person who posted this blog may be, we can minimize existing problems by not having a caniption everytime someone has something pertinent to say about a certain topic, questioning motivations and the like.

 


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Reality-Bites

The person who posted this clip, JamilEghrari

by Reality-Bites on Sat Sep 10, 2011 03:21 AM PDT

I just took a look at the list of blogs he/she has posted and they are all about the Bahais!

However, going by his choice of specific subject matters on this issue, I get the feeling he is not a Bahai himself, but merely posting blogs to cause controversy for whatever reason, as if the Bahais don't already get enough accusations of every kind thrown their way.

Could I be wrong about the blogger's intentions? Of course I could. But the fact that he/she does not post any follow up comments makes me suspect I could be right.


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پندارنیک

Thanks Roger_Rabbit

by پندارنیک on Sat Sep 10, 2011 03:06 AM PDT

I second Tabarzin. Carry on..............


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Roger_Rabbit

Thank you Tabarzin

by Roger_Rabbit on Sat Sep 10, 2011 02:59 AM PDT

I don't know why the slightest expression of one's opinion about the Baha'i community must attract such a vehement reaction? I have no problem with Baha'i community's involvemnt in politics. They had done so in the past on and off until Abdul Baha ordered them to refrain. But they still do it: sometimes openly, like the case of Dr Rasekh, and sometimes subtly, like the case of General Dr Ayadi.  My critique of Dr Mo'men is that why he so clumsily denies the obvious. 

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Tabarzin

Gilani

by Tabarzin on Sat Sep 10, 2011 02:49 AM PDT

What exactly is your problem? Day in, day out you spout off the most ultra-rightwing Islamophobic rhetoric all over this site. One person expresses their opinion and you are all over them with a barrage of the most below the belt attacks and accusations attempting to intimidate them into silence like the worst kind of Hezbollahi thug!

Take arguments on their merits, not on your snide, ideological, arrogant and largely false projections.

@Roger_Rabbit, carry on...


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Roger_Rabbit

No need to entice RG

by Roger_Rabbit on Sat Sep 10, 2011 02:01 AM PDT

 

Glad to be of service :)) 


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Roozbeh_Gilani

"B" for Bahai, "J" for Jew :)

by Roozbeh_Gilani on Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:00 PM PDT

Are my favourite baits, to entice them to the open, from behind the charades of "Toodeh party", "Fanon", "Walt Disney!!!!!!!",  and "Rumi"!

Bulls Eye! 10 our of 10 on this for the author of the blog:)

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


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Roger_Rabbit

Proof, the British style

by Roger_Rabbit on Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:41 AM PDT

 

I have much respect for Dr Mo'men and his faith but frankly I am disappointed in his water-logged arguments. In a way, I feel his frustration with the issue of Baha'i involvement in political affairs and his desparation in coming up with a convincing argument. The question that comes to one's mind, as another commenter had pointed out some time ago is this: are we talking about a spiritual faith or is some kind of closed shop fraternity with members carrying cards and enjoying membership privileges? When he says that General Sani'i was barred from participation (!!) in Baha'i community , it sounds like a member of an political order being ex-communicated on the orders of the leader(s) and his card being removed!! Surely one's faith is a matter of one's relation with God and not party rules and regulations?

Dr Mo'men (deliberately) excluded the one of the most prominent  Baha'i activists of the Pahlavi regime who held one of the most political offices in the country i.e Dr Shapour Rasekh who as the deputy head of the Organisation of Budget and Planning was a close ally of Amir Abbas Hoveyda and a protege of General Dr Ayadi (the Shah's  confidant and personal physician). Ayadi was not holding a political office but had a major influence in promoting and demoting people into or out of the political arena of the country.

Sorry, Dr Mo'men but your arguments have serious holes in them.


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