Killing myself

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Jahanshah Javid
by Jahanshah Javid
10-May-2009
 

I looked out the window as the plane was approaching Chihuahua airport. I saw dirt roads in dry, almost desert-like areas that seemed to lead to nowhere. They made me think of my latest exit plan: I would drive my car into the desert until it ran out of gas. There would be no food or water and no way to go back. I would smash the windows, rip out and trash the inside and then set the car on fire so that when my body was found, the detectives would be baffled as to what had happened. Kidnappers or drug dealers would be among the prime suspects. And over time, suspicion would eventually turn to certainty, since the case would never be solved.

It's not one of my best plans, but with a little refinement, it could work.

***

I think about killing myself a lot. I wouldn't say every day, but certainly several times a month. I toy with the idea for a few minutes and I realize it's stupid or impossible. Any seemingly difficult problem or unbearable situation makes me want to die. These "problems" are almost always trivial, certainly nothing to end my life over. And lately it's the thought that I have done and experienced enough in life. What else is there?

***

I've only made one attempt at suicide. A feeble one, really. I don't think it even counts as an attempt. I was living in London with my first wife and my daughter. Early 1988? I was sitting on the couch in the living room of our house in Tooting, south London. I had a bottle of prescription pain killers the doctor had given me for my severe back aches. It was not the pain that made me want to die, but my marriage, then in its 7th year. I had asked, begged, my wife for a divorce several times. The first was only three months after our marriage. I was only 19 and she was 20 when we got married. We were so young and inexperienced. We didn't know shit about life. Every time I brought up divorce, my wife would start crying and tell me to be patient, that things would improve, that divorce was taboo in her traditional family and she would be destroyed, that I should think about our little daughter and how she would be damaged growing up without a father. I would believe her, feel sorry and back down. But after every argument, I was left feeling more trapped, helpless and depressed. There was no way out.

I poured a few pain killers into my hand. I stared at the orange capsules for a while. They were my ticket to freedom. They were going to save me from further misery. How many should I take? Five? Ten? I swallowed three capsules for a start. Then the gravity of the situation hit me. What if I didn't die? What if I was dragged to the hospital and saved? How would I live with the shame of having attempted suicide? What if death was slow and painful? What would happen if I died? My wife would be devastated. My sweet little girl would be scarred for life. My family, my friends... I couldn't do it. I chickened out.

Few months later my wife and I finally separated. This time I was adamant about divorce. The crisis was over. THAT crisis was over. But I still think of suicide as an option when I face a tough challenge, or when I get bored and tired of life.

***

When I got hired by the BBC Persian Service as a freelance reporter in Washington DC in 1998, the first story I did was about a best-selling book called "Final Exit", a how-to guide for those who want to end their life. I didn't actually read it.

***

My mother told me she once bought a gun to kill herself. At the time she was living in Florida and was in her early 60's. I don't remember the circumstances exactly. She said she couldn't go through with it. I was shocked. My mother contemplating suicide -- with a gun?!

None of my suicidal thoughts have involved a gun. Guns are for grown-ups!

I'm sure immaturity and irresponsibility play a big role in my desires to die. I just don't want to deal with adversity like an adult. I'd rather run away or I always try to think of something that would make my suicide look like an accident or a murder. Like driving into a barrier at high speed. I'm a bad enough driver that an accidental car crash would look more than plausible. Or I could leave some clues that would seem I've been killed by either the CIA, MI6, Mossad or the IRI. Or it could be set up to blame it on extremists from the far left to the far right.

***

What has stopped me every time has been two things. One, I love my daughter too much. I just don't want to ruin her life. Two, I can't tolerate pain. I guess pain is a message from your body telling you to regain health; the will to survive, to live. Love and sex, food, movies, people, cultures, dogs, flowers and places I've never seen are also making me hang around.

But I wonder: if I could end my life as easily, instantly and painlessly as flipping a switch, would I do it? I'm just glad that switch doesn't exist.

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JJ jan this is for you whenever you feel down!

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something to think about

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persian westender

Delete this blog asap

by persian westender on

 " Or I could leave some clues that would seem I've been killed by either the CIA, MI6, Mossad or the IRI. Or it could be set up to blame it on extremists from the far left to the far right."

Now If god forbidden, you get murdered by the hands of CIA, M16,....., they will be acquitted by this blog. don’t make it easy for them man!  just don't!


ebi amirhosseini

Bahram Jaan

by ebi amirhosseini on

Dadash daashtim?!

Ebi aka Haaji


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Zandeh---baad: Bahram

by zanzalil (not verified) on

I loved your comment, so far the best.


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Mr javid, running a site

by a fan of this site (not verified) on

Mr javid, running a site like this which criticizes the iri regime and religion is a form of attempting suicide, if you get the drift. I used to think that you are a very brave person, didn't know that you are just trying to kill your self:). Well, if it gives you any solace and mental comfort, remember that this site is fantastic, and has helped me to learn a lot about my iranian neighbours, so remember you have accomplished an amazing thing and it it is worth living for.


bahram9821

Come to my House

by bahram9821 on

You want to kill yourself? forget about guns, jumping from buildings, pills and...... Come to my house and eat my wife's cooking, it is like committing suicide everyday.

TheMrs

I can't ever go visit a

by TheMrs on

I can't ever go visit a tower or a bridge (Golden Gate bridge, CN Tower etc) without imagining what a free fall would feel like. It wouldn't be my method of choice but it's more about WHAT WOULD IT FEEL LIKE? Would I pass out and die before hitting the ground? Does it hurt to fall flat on top of a car and smashing it with my free fall weight? Do you die instantly? Do you feel anything? Do you regret it midway?

But I've never thought about it in a suicide way. I still haven't visited Malta. Too much to do. I can wallow in the mire when I'm six feet under. Not yet.


Darius Kadivar

Even My Dog wanted to do it... ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Very Funny Ad ... But Not a Laughing Matter :


Niki Tehranchi

What a blog to read on Mother's Day

by Niki Tehranchi on

Thanks for that. After all the saccarine sweetie-doo-da going-ons of Mother's Day, a good dose of reality check to restore the balance and make us come back down to earth.  It is very brave of you to share your thoughts on this issue which I am pretty sure EVERYBODY has thought about at least once in their life (I mean, what else are teen-age years for right?) but very few have the courage to admit it. Happy to see you are still amongst us though.  We need you around for a very very long time!


ebi amirhosseini

Pills,Guns,No!! only Chickens....

by ebi amirhosseini on

are the best!.

Eat as much as you can till you explode,that's "the best way to commit suicide"!!.

 

Ebi aka Haaji


Souri

Now, I'm back :-)

by Souri on

JJ jan, happy to see you're still alive :-)

I'm back from the Mother's Day lunch and have my stomach full and can now speak very well to guide you !!

When I was young, I'd always that question in my mind : What's the purpose of the life! Reading too much Hedayat  and Kafka and etol...I had a desperate outlook towards llife and once even I asked my father (who was my source person at that time)  why do you want to live more now? What's the purpose of you guys (mom, Dad, aunts and uncles) for living? I remember my mom was shocked by that question and she couldn't forgive me for a while, despite many attempt from my Dad to make her understand what I really meant by that!

I liked the idea of suicide, until I've got 16/17 and got too many other things(boys!!) in mind to think about death and life.

When you get a real purpose in life, you don't have neither the time nor the willing to think about those things.

Now, my view has changed. I think life is like a movie. It's full of moments of delight followed by the moments of horror and sorrow!

We can turn off the TV and it's all finish!! What takes me to see more of it, is really the curiosity now. I want to know what happens next! Depending of who we are and how we act as a person, the movie of our life could be of the category "G" , "F, for fiction not F$$k :-))" or even "X"....etc.

I like Historic movies...! Now, go figure what kind of person I am! An old clich!

You are a very sensitive and intense person. Sometimes the lack of intensity in our lives, lead us to these moment of chaos and we ask ourselves " What for?" We think: At our age, we have already seen of all the colors, now  nothing will surprise us, and nothing will make us happier or sadder than what we have already felt in the past.

Yes, true, maybe nothing will drive us crazier than once we had felt in the past, but even if the future has nothing more intense for us, it will sure bring us some "different" stories. Some different scenes and maybe, just maybe, also different feeling.

Maybe yes, maybe not. But it worth waiting and trying. Just the same way we don't turn off the TV, even if sometimes we are bored by some of the scenes. 

Deal? Okay!

Love you,


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thoughts

by Amir Kabir near godez zanboorak khaneh (not verified) on

all thoughts are to be directed and shifted towards the desire and willingness for a long life. Suicide is not an escape, it is passing through a gate with no walls, and one should wonder what was the point.

Living is creating, and one must attempt to create something each and every day even if it is confined in his or her mind.

There are plenty of good things to think about and not thinking about self-destruction. Leave that to accidents, drunk drivers and other events beyond your control.

Think about how to manage yourself when you are 110 years old. Life is very precious.


David ET

Live Life

by David ET on

such thoughts regradless of what one does with them need to be adressed with a professional just as we seek help with back "aches"..

you have contributed much to Iranian community and the world and have been responsible for a beautiful and intelligent daughter
to say the least

other than that hug the horizon where the desert that you stood on and the stars above come together at a....distant

I assure you that you are one of those whose name will never die... too late for that...so while a guest here make the best of it..learn the unknown...share your wisdom and LIVE LIFE
as for death I also assure you THAT would come by itself too
may be you have tried to rush at everything in life anyway
its good that you are travelling
it is wonderful
if not enough
make even a bigger or more lasting MOVE right here on earth before rushing beyond..
best


Organic NUTritionist

nice, genuine read...

by Organic NUTritionist on

i also used to think about what else is there to live for?

i know what you mean.

but it passed.  

now i just live for the simple things in life...  sunshiny days, my sons' humor, bark of a puppy, and a good chocolate cake   :)


Reza 41

من هم با خود کشی موافقم اما....

Reza 41


دوست گرامی؛ به نظر من ما همه باید سعی کنیم خودمان را بکشیم ولی نه خود جسممان را بلکه بایدخود نفسمان را بکشیم .چرا که هر مکافاتی که داریم از همین زیاده خواهی های نفسمان است .متاسفانه این دوره زمانه آنقدر ما را به خودش مشغول کرده ما بفکره سیر کردن بچه هامون هستیم به فکر یک لقمه نون برای خودمون و یا حتی یادمون نمی ره که کاسه غذای سگ و گربه هامون را قبل از این که از خونه بریم بیرون پر بکنیم و در مجموع به فکر پر کردن شکم همه هستیم غیر از شکم روحمون تا توانستیم آشغال و فست فودafast food) به خوردش دادیم یک خپله بی ریخت لوسی در آمده که خودمون هم از خودمون بدمون می آد. دوستان؛ ما همان جور که بدنمون احتیاج به دایت و رژیم داره نتنها روحمون هم احتیاج به رژیم داره علاوه بر این رژیم همچنین باید غذاهای خوب هم به روحون بدهیم. جناب جهانشاه از چیز هایی که شما مطرح کردید نشانه های این را داره که روح شما بر اثر چاقی زیاد و عارضه های مریوظه آماده سکته است و همون جور که خود اعتراف کردید یک سکته خفیف هم قبلا داشته اید . دوست عزیز, قدیم ها رسم بود مردم جمعه ها میرفتند قبرستانها ؛خیلی خوب بود به ما یاد آوری میشد که ایستگاه آخر مان کجاست همه ما یک روزی خواهیم رفت این که اشکالی نداره ؛ به شما و هر کس که بعضی اوقات فکر میکنند واقعا مشکلاتی دارند که نمیتوانند از پس آن بر بیایند و دیگر آخر خط رسیدند, توصیه می کنم که در اولین فرصت یک قدم تشریف ببرید به یک بیمارستان و از ایشان بخواهید اجازه بدهند شما برویدعیادت این کسانی که متاسفانه در اثر تصادف نخاعشان از گردن قطع شده و نفس هم دیگر به اراده خود نمی توانند بکشند حتی غذا هم دیگر از دهان نمی توانند بخورند  اما  هنوز برای زنده ماندن مبارزه دارند می کنند و امید دارند و اینها را ببینید خودتان را جای آنها ببینید و یا حداقل خودتان را جای پدر مادر آنها قرار دهید .  بروید بخش کسانی که احتیاج به قلب یا کلیه  و یا جگر و یا به شش دارند با زحمت زیاد زنده اند و نفس می کشند و کسی هم نیست به ایشان این عضو مورد نیازشان را به ایشان اهدا کند ولی باز هم دارند مبارزه میکنند حتما بخش بیماران سرطانی یادتان نره, کسانی که همه چیز را بر اثر مریضیشان از دست دادند و تا آخرین نفسشان باید بهشان سم تزریق کنند و باید با اون حال بسیار بد هر روز را بگذرانند ولی باز هم هر روز مجله های پزشکی را ورق میزنند که شاید کشف جدیدی اتفاق افتاده با شه که آنها را نجات بده . دوست گرامی و هموطنان گرامی خداوند مادر روح ماست این بچه را به مادرش نزدیک کنید شادابی و انگیزه شما
باز خواهد گشت
. الحمدالله اگر ما هیچ چیز نداریم حداقل اکثریتمان از سلامتی بدنی نسبی برخودمان و خانواده مان بر خورداریم و حدا اقل ٣ وعده غذامان را هم داریم فکر آن بچه های افریقایی را بکنیم که هر ٣ روز یک وعده غذا گیرشان میاید. شما را دعوت میکنم به رستوران قران تشریف ببرید مطمئن باشید خداوند در این منیو, خارج از جنگ و دفاع ؛عفو و قصاص که دشمنان روحتان آنها را به رخ میکشند غذاهای دیگر هم دارد که در ارتباط با زندگی روزمره و حکمتهای کلیدی دارد که مطمئنا به درد کارشما خواهد خورد. خواندن کلام خدا خود ویتامینیست برای روح حال اگر در آن تعمق هم بکنیم که سوپر.  امیدوارم حالتان را بد نکرده باشم با آرزوی موفقیت

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Tafreshi

جناب جهانشاه: "انگار که نیستی اگر هستی خوش باش"

Tafreshi


 

"We should return to the story of the person who is told by the doctor that he has only six months to live.

He says, "Okay, I know I will die in six months." But he shouldn’t be so sure the doctor is right, because doctors often predict wrongly. Some people are told that they have only six months to live but they live for many years. It depends on the way that we live. All the same, we say, "Okay, from now until I die I am going to live properly, with peace and freedom and solidity, and I’m going to make the quality of my life so much better."

And once that person is free, is not caught in the past or the future, is not afraid of the future and can live solidly, free in the present moment, and see deeply what life is about, then that person will see that his or her life span is limitless."

From a talk by Vietnamese Zen master Thich Naht Hanh


irannostalgia.com

Three years after was my best year in life.

by irannostalgia.com on

The worst year in my life was 2003 . I was living in Los Angeles. That year I hit absolute bottom. I had nothing and no one I could call. I also didn't know what to do professionaly as when I was looking for work they would treat my degree (Economics) as useless. A little bit about that story here:

//updatesdario.blogspot.com/2007/12/unspoken-trueths-about-eyeranian.html

(single line)

I had suicidal thoughts which I couldn't control. But also, my body was trembling all the time, and one day it just shut down. I fell on the floor and couldn't get up. Needless to say I didn't have health insurance.

Anyway, to my surprise, I got out of that mess and completely on my own two feet. It took years.

The best year of my life, however, was probably 2006, which was alomst 3 years after all that!!! So I am greatful I didn't switch off the plug in 2003!!

I always remind myself that If I hadn't kept trying I wouldn't have been able to experience the amazing things I have done in those years AFTER hitting bottom. Since 2006 I've visited: Egypt, India, East Turkey, Croatia, Morocco, Portugal, all of Europe several times, Hungary, Greece (4times), Check republic....

This year I also will do Uzbakestan and next year Argentina, Brazil and Mexico !!!

I do all this with hardly any money. Plus I have some additional issues some other more "normal" people don't have.

I still get suicidal thoughts. Last month I had it. But I just tell myself I have to hold on a bit more or I try to delay it with some doable project. For example, I will tell myself to delay suicide until I'm 55 and can't work anymore ...!! Ha ha..

I've heard from other friends of mine that they have suicidal thoughts too. Sometimes I'm shocked, as some of them are people that are well off and have homes and money is not an issue for them.

It's probably more common than each one of us might think.

 

 

//www.irannostalgia.com

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Darius Kadivar

JJ Please Do ... ;0))

by Darius Kadivar on

Just make sure to name me as legal successor so I can turn this website into a Permanent 24h/24 Pro-Monarchist Propaganda Machine.

But then I am afraid it may backfire for it will turn Iranian.com into a Boring Fart Hole with me as Commander in Chief  ... LOL

Man Are You CRAZY ? How do you think I will be able to restore the Monarchy without having Staunch Opponents like you to send to the Dungeons when they scrub my Megalomaniac tendancies ? .;0)).. 

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER MY REVOLUTIONARY FRIEND !

WE COUNT ON YOU !

Cheers,

DK


Monda

Dear JJ

by Monda on

I wish I had the chance to compare personal notes with you on this topic. Briefly, it's not uncommon for people of any age to consider suicide when under existential pressure. I ditto Ali P., character formerly known as Shazde among others. You freaked me out man, first thing this morning! it was really dramatic but I'm glad you brought it up, I feel closer to you now.

btw guns are stereotypically men's way to end it, while taking pills is most preferred by women. I have never thought of using a gun (for any reason, if my life depended on it!) because it's not me. Now pills I tried way back in '79, I had lost complete contact with everyone back home and was in shock realizing I had no home. Like you I had no idea how many...good thing because I started with a hand full but tasted like chalk on my tongue, so I needed juice to wash it down, meanwhile my friend Soudi showed up to go to the beach...we talked and cried all day on the beach about what was happening to us; we had no clue what revolution meant for our families back home or for us here.


mrlayl

To: Respectfully.......

by mrlayl on

"Not that there is anything wrong with it!"

 


Anonymous Observer

JJ

by Anonymous Observer on

I'de be thinking about killing myself too if all I did all day was to deal with the nit wits on this site (myself included)!!! :-).

Seriously, though, stick around...at least until you have the east coast Iranian.com party.  You promised me front row tickets.  You're not going to get out of that promise so easily by killing yourself...it ain't gonna happen buddy..

Relly seriously...you do a great service for the Iranian community..we need you man...


minadadvar

Dear Jahanshah

by minadadvar on

You are such a complicated man.  How can a  person who has the courage to share such intimate details of his soul (on iranian.com!!),  think about escaping the everyday life challenges?!. 

If you like reading, I recommend "Man's Search for Meaning", by Victor Frankl.  As Nietzche put it, "He who has a WHY to live for can bear almost any HOW." 

Thanks for being so couragous and generous.    


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A little slow on the uptake, but we get it now, jj......

by A little slow on the uptake (not verified) on

It was all just a joke. A killing joke.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDwhZEFk5W4&feature...

:o) lol hahaha


SamSamIIII

Well,

by SamSamIIII on

 

No one can stop you thinkin but as you pointed out yourself the pain left for your loved ones to deal with is immence which makes you reconsider your every decision twice and it,s a good thing .Death by itself is not scary but the prospect of leaving a child not cared for & sent into a cruel world is whats sad and frightening . Sooner or later we all drop from this merry go around wheel , lets not rush it pal .

A few things to consider , stop hangin around needy friends , preachy folks , phony crowds & wastefull distractions , spent more time with kids(Robert) than adults and enjoy the nature . here i,m being preachy myself ;)

Cheers & Best wishes !!!

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//www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


Abarmard

you got to stick around

by Abarmard on

Until we get together for a drink, after that khoda karimeh;)


Jahanshah Javid

Marge man!

by Jahanshah Javid on

Baba I'm not going to kill myself! I said these thoughts of mine are over trivial things and are childish. They always go away after a few minutes.

Now I think if I die of natural causes tomorrow, you'll all think I killed myself :o)))

Thank you for your loving thoughts and messages.

Love you too!

Yours,

Alive and Kickin'


Shazde Asdola Mirza

Post divorce depression

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

After finishing any major project, normally a deep sense of depression sets in; divorce is a grand example. One works so hard and so long to organize everything, to get rid of it all, but in the aftermath is faced with a huge void and sense of loss. Not the loss of an ex-partner, but the loss of a grand project, a great exit, a final solution, which really does not deliver all that was promised.

Communication is best cure for depression; if you can talk about it, the ghosts of despair get unsettled and disperse. Writing about it is even better, as one can read it later on and have some fun too.

Now we get to the obligatory prescription part, as one always does when someone opens up to us; perhaps to show that we are better, immune or have found the ultimate panacea. Folk remedy number one two and three are exercise, exercise and exercise.

We are not made to sit in front of a freaking laptop all day long and click away. We are hunter gatherer primates who have to move around all the time, look for things, find little prizes, and feel our own muscles stretch and strain. Of course, chasing women, having sex, and running away from them, are all exercise in my book ;-)


Souri

آقایی

Souri


من خیلی‌ حرف‌ها باهات دارم، الان یخورده گیجم، یک کم دیرتر برمیگردم و واست همشو مینویسم

تو رو خدا فعلا خودتو  نکش، تا من برگردم

ناسلامتی امروز روز مادره بابا!! این هم عوض کادو دادنته؟

یا شاید حسودیت شده که چرا روز مادره و روز پدر نیست، حالا اینکه دیگه خودکشی نداره!

فعلا دست نگهدار، پاشو برو با خواهرت یک برانچ بزن، تا من هم برگردم و واست سیریوسلی !! یک چیزایی بنویسم.

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