We are not interested in what you believe

bahramthegreat
by bahramthegreat
10-May-2010
 

The other day I met an Iranian in the drug store near my house. We talked for a minute and right away he said “by the way I am of Bahai faith.” This is not the first time that this situation happened to me when I met an Iranian of Bahai background. It seems this is part of Bahai culture that must to mention “I am Bahai” especially, at that early stage of conversation. That bothers me a lot. I never met anyone of other faiths that introduced himself/herself through their religion affiliation.

I have many Iranian and non-Iranian friends that are Christian, Jews, Moslems, Hindu and never talked about what they believe when a conversation strikes between us. When I was attending university back in 70’s, they were these two Bahais couples that constantly promoting their religion like they had nothing to do in their daily life. The thing that was agitating to me was their perseverance in converting Muslims, Christians, and Jews to their faith which they thought is a noble thing to do. Later when I met my wife coming from other State, she told me exactly the same thing that she experienced similar situation while she was attending university. That type of method of approach will reflect negatively on Bahai people.

Hope our Iranian Bahais as well as others would put their priority on first being a good Iranian and less on their religious believe (this should be true for Muslims and Jews of Iranian background as well). To do it otherwise, will create division among Iranians and will harm us much more than helping us for building a better Iran.

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something smells suspicious about this blog

by Gavazn on

"Hope ...put their priority on first being a good Iranian and less on their religious believe ...otherwise, will create division among Iranians and will harm us much more than helping us for building a better Iran."

Tell that to the bigots that contiuously have harassed this minority on this website, have told them they are not Iranian, and that they should be made to leave their homeland. I have not seen any pushy Bahais here, but just continuous attacks on them. It is interesting that you are writing a blog addressing the Bahais and not those that harass and are devisive. 


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Thank You Sag I am refraining

by timothyfloyd on

from conversation now,best to you.


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Best comment of the day goes to ....

by sag koochooloo on

timothyfloyd - short and to the point.  (LOL)

If you do not want to hear anyone go on about religion just say so or walk away. Simple as that. Bahais do not intimidate, arrest, and execute non-believers. It seems that they are always an easy target for attack because 99% of the ones I know are gentle souls.


faryarm

Careless comments

by faryarm on


The only thing Bahai Faith  should remind you of is your inexplicable animosity towards something very simple;

that religion, or "deen" as Bahais believe should be the cause of unity not discord. 

Regrettably  The record of your comments on IR.com, about Bahai faith has been nothing but the opinions of a careless and misinformed cynic, which can be just as harmful as the ignorant comments of a religious bigot.

 


i am a bahai too

Glory in this, that you love your kind

by i am a bahai too on

Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather glory in this, that he loves his kind. …” - Baha'u'llah

An opinion was given that Baha'is should show that they are good Iranians. Iranian Baha'is do this with excellence. Iranian Baha'is love their homeland deeply and have sacrificed much to remain there, despite overt persecution by the Iranian government. 

Everyone should be free to love their homeland and be proud of their ethnicity or nationality. Baha'is do not argue against this. We simply believe that our first allegiance is to humanity; all of it.  For us, it is like acquiring an added level of consciousness; it is not a disavowal of our native affiliation.

Bahram the Great, there are many, many (millions) more Baha'is who are NOT Iranian, than there are who are Iranian.  So some Baha'is must show that they are good Americans, good Spaniards, good Frenchmen, good Egyptians, good Argentinians, good Indians, good Kenyans, good Australians, etc., etc.

BTW, goodness adds up.

The new teaching for our global age comes from Baha'u'llah, an Iranian Man, who counselled humanity to "Let your vision be world-embracing . . ." from a prison cell in Akka, 140 years ago. 

Diversity works. It has become a fact that if we ignore global trends and disavow the oneness of all people we will suffer greatly. An example would be how the world markets trembled when one small nation faltered economically as Greece did last week.

Oneness is a beautiful belief that becomes an experience of love. Baha'is work at this, seeking to develop appreciation for all religions, all nations, all people.  We pray with Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and Christians.  We are a threat to no one; we accept everyone.


maxwell

introduction as a bahai

by maxwell on

Dear Bahramthe great

I am one of the Bahais who always tells a new Muslim friend at the very beginning that I am a Bahai, it comes from an experience I had when I was 11 years old at school in Iran.

We had a new boy in our class who was sat next to me, at break time a very close friend of mine whispered something to the new boy, the new boy replied back "so what", I later found out that my very old friend told him, "be careful he is a Bahai". since then I dont want any surprised faces from new friends, I want to be the first to proudly say I am a Bahai and I am not ashamed or affraid.

Shame is on the Mullahs who have lied and made being a Bahai or any one who has a modern progressive belief into a monster.


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Bahai faith reminds me of a dateline segment on pyramid schemes

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

you have to keep buying books and tapes to "get closer to the top." Az daste deen....


Sargashteh

stereotyping minorities is simple

by Sargashteh on

stereotyping minorities is simple all it takes for one or at most two of them to behave a certain way. After that "They" are all THIS or THAT!


faryarm

Dear Mr Bahram, Question, examine Why They are so....

by faryarm on

Dear Mr Bahram

No one wants or needs to be preached to; as there has to be thirst and hunger for knowledge...you have every right to not listen.

As for some Bahais who may come across as overly enthusiastic about their beliefs; perhaps it is worth asking,  why some are more passionate than the rest, who see such urgency in identifying themselves as Bahais.

I dont know if you have taken the trouble to seek for yourself as to what Bahais actually believe and hold close to their heart...

Ask what is that they are willing to die for? for something that has no personal or material gain to any Bahai.

I assure you that when you realize, what difference the spread of  their beliefs could have made to so many generations of Iranians, when it was first revealed to Iranians  over 100 years ago, you wold perhaps change you view; principles that could have freed a backward medieval Iranian society of the Qaiars from the clutches of an "antiquatde" corrupt clergy and propelled Iranian society ahead of its western counterparts; beliefs that could have replaced the dogma and superstitions of the Mullah with progressive spiritual principles that in the 1860s was little known or accepted in the west.

Are you aware that the beliefs you refuse to hear or accept such as  

1. Equality of Men and women.

2. Compulsory education, especially for girls.

3. Independent thinking and search for th truth , as opposed to "taghlid" from a Mullah.

The above is only three of many other principles,

//www.bahai.com/Bahaullah/principles.htm

that if allowed by the opposing mullahs to take root in Iran, we would not be today dealing with the widespread injustice and horror of the Islamic republic.

I hope that more knowledge freed from pre judgment will expand your horizons and hopefully a more informed point of view,

so that next a time you meet a Bahai, you could better appreciate the reason for their compulsion to mention their faith, not to mention the love, respect, devotion they have for Iran as, the birthplace of ideas they believe are destined to give birth to a future renewed Persian Civilization envied and respected by the rest of humanity, as promised by Baha'u'llah.

"In the Book of Aqdas written when the tyrannical Násiri'd-Dín Sháh was at the height of his power, Bahá'u'lláh blesses the city of Tehran, and His own birthplace, and says of it: --


Let nothing grieve thee, O Land of Tá (Tihrán), for God hath chosen thee to be the source of the joy of all mankind.

He shall, if it be His will, bless thy throne with one who will rule with justice, who will gather together the flock of God which the wolves have scattered. Such a ruler will, with joy and gladness, turn his face towards, and extend his favors unto, the people of Bahá. He indeed is accounted in the sight of God as a jewel among men. Upon him rest forever the glory of God, and the glory of all that dwell in the kingdom of His Revelation.

         "Ere long will the state of affairs within thee be changed, and the reins of power fall into the hands of the people. Verily, thy Lord is the All-Knowing. His authority embraceth all things. Rest thou assured in the gracious favor of thy Lord. The eye of His loving-kindness shall everlastingly be directed towards thee. The day is approaching when thy agitation will have been transmuted into peace and quiet calm. Thus hath it been decreed in the wondrous Book. -- Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh, pp. 110-111. 

 

Sadly, as a result of the kind of disinterest you describe, other nations and races have benefited from the wisdom of these teachings except the majority of the people in the land of its birth who know little or nothing about it, except the poison spread by the Mullah. 

But the tide has turned and a new generation of independent thinkers empowered by the internet can access first hand information, exposing  decades of false propaganda and lies.

 

faryar 

 


Maryam Hojjat

No Such experience with Bahaies!

by Maryam Hojjat on

I have known many Iranian Bahaies in Iran & US and have some friends as well but never had such experience with any of them.  However,  Bahaies are very kind, cordial & loving people if it is because of their religion I recommend this religion to anyone who is looking for a new faith!


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Speak for yourself

by timothyfloyd on

Who elected you?


vildemose

bahram: Who is "we"?

by vildemose on

bahram: Who is "we"?


vildemose

Bahais, in my experience,

by vildemose on

Bahais, in my experience, don't like to talk about religion or politics especially IRI policies regarding Bahai. They immediately change the subject,  which I found a bit odd in the beginning but I realized that it's just too painful for them to talk about. So, I don't mention politics or religion around them.

 My experience with Bahais has always been most cordial and non prying. Foozol nistan at all like many of us.

I find them to be very hard working and very family oriented.


Ali P.

Maybe...

by Ali P. on

Maybe, your Bahai friend, had a few bad experiences, with fellow Iranians, who made a 180 degree turn around, when they found out he was Bahai. Bigots, are, out there, you know? They are those who'd wash their hards after shaking hands with a Bahai.

Would that not hurt YOUR feelings? Would you not make sure, next time you meet someone, they know about your faith,at a very early stage, so if they have any problem with that, they could move on?

I know quite a few Bahais. I have never had your experience, but I am sure it happens.

Yours,

Ali P.


Sahameddin Ghiassi

Unity of mankind

by Sahameddin Ghiassi on

That is exactly true. We should work for humanity and not for an especial religion. We should save now the great Iran, the whole Iran and all his Ostans of Iran. We are artificially divided, we should be united again. But not by fight and war, but by love and respect. Why our Kurdish brothers , sisters people should be in five different countries? ...and our Azari ...Baluch... We are one. United States of....Like Europe or like America. Like in the past. But not through war and hate.