Anti-war protest in New York

Rally against possible attack on Iran

AFP: Hundreds of protesters demonstrated Saturday in New York and pacifist groups took to the streets in dozens of other US and Canadian cities in a "Day of Mass Action" against a possible war with Iran. About 500 protesters gathered in Manhattan's Times Square and marched to the headquarters of the US mission to the United Nations and to the Israeli consulate. "No war, no sanctions, no intervention, no assassinations," read a banner leading the march >>>


06-Feb-2012
Share/Save/Bookmark

Recently by Ghormeh SabziCommentsDate
Majid Tavakoli: Prisoner of the day
5
Dec 02, 2012
Nasrin Sotoudeh: Prisoner of the day
2
Dec 01, 2012
Abdollah Momeni: Prisoner of the day
2
Nov 30, 2012
more from Ghormeh Sabzi
 
Behrouz

what keeps what in power

by Behrouz on

Have you ever heard of New World Order, pal?

  • it doesn't mater if you are for democracy in iran or not.
  • if you are for war, thats enough for NWO authorities.
  • it doesn't mater whether you are a US, Israel or Iran or anywhere else's citizen, when you are lower 99%, you being slave/peasant of the elites. they kill us to become fatter and more powerful.

I know that's such a pesimistic irony, but hey what else you want to do, just follow the  power, that can help, you sure?

they force misery to have an excuse to overthrow governments, specially in middle east. for instance, look at the history how many times Iranians rose for freedom! whats happening in US or europe, people are getting more freedom or less, as a matter of fact?


maziar 58

............

by maziar 58 on

Let focus on war with IR and not IRAN .

say yes to first and no to latter.

Maziar


Siavash300

Iraj khan's misunderstanding

by Siavash300 on

"let me assure you of the fact the present regime in Iran is not insane." Iraj khan

So wipe off Israel from the map is NOT insane. it is perfectly normal. That is surprise for me. I don't think any rational person think that way. If you don't believe me let's ask some normal people. Imagine those who were in Nazi Germany Gas Chamber were your family members and your relatives. How would you feel about it?

Normal feeling is that you should feel sad and have sympathy for them. Now, if you feel differently, my suggestion is to check with psychiatrist soon because it is not normal feelings. I know some one also feel that way and he calls himself Iran's president.

"The political system in Iran with its different layers and centers of power will not be easy to be overthrown." Iraj khan

May be yes , may be no. We see it in action what would be happens. My idea is quite different. I believe all these hart o port (dog brag) will go away once the first bomb settled on mullahs houses. No body is willing to lose his/her precious life for stinky mullahs. 

You may be mistaken between Iran at present time with Iran at the time of Saddam invasion.

  Our people defended Iran and it was a nationalism. it was compeletely different with current situation. Our youth took their lives in their hands and defended our country. They died for our country against outside invasion. That is compeletely different ball game. At present time, it is mullah's ambition for taking over the foreign power and wipe them out.  That is way different from what you saw in early 80's which was nationalism. I think this is the source of your misunderstanding.  I love to see you the day these Islamic monsters get overthrown. you will see million and million of happy Iranians celeberate downfall of Islamo fascist in Iran cities. There are million of Iranian people waiting for that moment. They are longing just to see that day mullahs would hang from the trees in public. you may not be in contact with ordinary Iranian people in Iran, so you miscalculate and misunderstand the whole situation.  

Let me assure you my friend. Assad in Syria and mullahs in Iran will go to dumpster of history soon. U.S and Israel will remain intact. Mark my word.

Siavash  


AMIR1973

Caution: multiple user IDs in progress

by AMIR1973 on

I'm just sayin'  .-)


iraj khan

So,

by iraj khan on

He says:

"Take the security forces out of the streets and the whole bloody, corrupt, murderous edifice of IR will evaporate in less than half a day."

Question: Who is going to 'Take security forces out of the streets?

a. United States?

b. United States and Nato?

c. United States, Nato and Israel?

d. United States, Nato, Israel and Saudis?

e. United States, Nato, Israel, Saudis and You?

Fact: Iran is not Iraq, Lybia or Syria.

Fact: IRI as a complex system of government is different than Shah's, Saddam's, Ghaddafi's and Bashar's.

Fact: If they could've overthrown IRI, it would have been done by now.  

Fact: Empty slogans are not enough to overthrow Iranian regime.

Fact: you secretely hope Israel would be able to push U.S. to bombard Iran but you feel guilty and conflicted for feeling so. 

Fact: I always prefer Peace to War. 

I'm just saying,

Iraj 


Mash Ghasem

Iraj, the only thing keeping IR in power are Basij &Sepah thugs

by Mash Ghasem on

Take the security forces out of the streets and the whole bloody, corrupt, murderous edifice of IR will evaporate in less than half a day.

Shameless IR apologists and defenders like you, always portray this mythical picture of IR, but in reality and in everyday life the only thing maintaining IR is the bayonet.

Then again as we all know, you could rule by bayonet, but you can't live on bayonet!

Iraji looks like you need to start looking for another line of work. Do you know how to speak Korean? Give my regards to mollah nasresdin and his camel too. 


iraj khan

A

by iraj khan on

few notes:

Siavash, yes I do believe Israel is using everything in her power to 'Destroy Iran'.

Do you know why? Because nobody can change the present regime of Iran without destroying Iran along with it. The political system in Iran with its different layers and centers of power will not be easy to be overthrown.

Mr Siavash you say: "So let the Islamic criminal gang who occupied Iran have nuke bomb and wipe off Isreal from the map and that is "sanity" and anyone who is opposed with second hollucast is "insanity".

Mr Siavash let me assure you of the fact the present regime in Iran is not insane. As Ron Paul the candidate for U.S. president believes so because:

"Israel, the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid (about $3 billion in
2011), unlike Iran, possesses hundreds of nuclear weapons."

 


Sassan1

When people claim...

by Sassan1 on

That "Iran has never attacked any other country for 200-years" they completely ignore the fact that this regime has been involved in worldwide terrorism and murders throughout the world and outside of Iran for the past 30+ years. Away from the fact that this regime has been responsible for a large part of the terrorism and attacks on U.S. and allied troops in Afghanistan and Iraq; this regime has been responsible for the murders of hundreds of Iranians throughout Europe and the west ever since this regime's inception. Let's not forget the fact that this regime has been responsible for terrorist attacks ranging from the Argentinian bombing of innocent civilians, the support for suicide bombers in Israel, the Lebanon Barracks bombings, and numerous other terrorist attacks, activities, and murders.

 Bottom line: this is a regime that is unstable and under no circumstance must be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. Of course, this would immediately start a nuclear arms race in the region and away from that, this would enable the regime to increase their stranglehold on the Iranian people. In addition, this is a regime that is guided by fanatical Islam through their apocalyptic vision of bringing the return of the "hidden imam" in which as a prerequisite not only must Jerusalem be "reconquered" but 2/3rd of humanity "will perish" through war, havoc, chaos, and famine. 

Remember people: this is a regime that rapes our young sisters before executing them so that they don't "die as virgins" as "virgins go straight to heaven" so to "deny" this to them too. This is a regime in which Khomeini refused to end the Iran-Iraq war at two opportunities he was afforded (once early in the war during a deal brokered by the Saudis and later before the war reached its apex through a ceasefire through the U.N.) as Khomeini declared, "on to Karbala, Saudi Arabia, Jerusalem, and the west!" This is a regime if afforded the opportunity will nuke Israel despite the fact that Israel would strike and nuke Iran killing tens of millions of Iranians. The lives of Iranians mean nothing to these fanatical madmen. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Israel vs Mollah

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

There are some people who think of Iran as Mollahs. There are some who consider Iran and Islam the same

They are wrong.


Siavash300

Correction of Iraj Khan's mistake

by Siavash300 on

"Israel is using everything in her power to destroy Iran." Iraj khan

The correct version of above statement is:

"Israel is using everything in her power to destroy Stinky ruling mullahs in Iran"

Because we did not have any problem with Israel when shah was on power. We also would not have any problem with Israel once crown Reza Pahlavi takes the office.

Sincerely,

Siavash


Siavash300

Sanity versus insanity

by Siavash300 on

GOAL: Restoring sanity to the world! !" Disenchanted

"I also have issue with people who are obsessed with history " Disenchanted

So let the Islamic criminal gang who occupied Iran have nuke bomb and wipe off Isreal from the map and that is "sanity" and anyone who is opposed with second hollucast is "insanity".

That is very brilliant.

P.S

past makes future. If you don't believe me just pay attention to a any doctor whom you visit. They ask for the history of illness in order to diagnose the current problem. We have a disease in Iran which is big threat to human lives and we can diagnose this disease only by reviewing our history. Surely, that doesn't send us to the ditch. We only end up to the ditch if we are not careful by misleading information and being brainwash by a bunch Islamic of rag heads.


Disenchanted

Good post TL!

by Disenchanted on

You forgot one important fact: Might makes right! But what about Hitler & Nazis?! Where does it fit in all this? Eventually everything at some degree HAS TO be related to Hitler. It simply HAS TO! No..No it is! It MUST! 

MM

I guess AIPAC means American Iranian Political Action Committee!

by MM on

By Faramarz's logic, here are some more acronyms with their definitions for your view:

AIPAC: American Iranian Political Action Committee

MKO: Mas.. Kaze.... Organization

IRI: short for iritant or irisponsible (OK, buy an "R" in the next wheel of fortune)

Proviso - the above acronyms/definitions are intended for fun and any accidental resemblence(s) to real characters may or may not be on-purpose. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Iran vs ...

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

The problem in recent history is Iranian leaders have not faced reality. Which is Iran is not the world power it once was. Mossadegh; Shah and Khomeini had very different ideologies. But all shared one main problem.

Their actions were as if Iran was a world power but it is not. You may get angry and yell but it will not make a difference. Or accept it; then work realistically to improve things. In time Iran will regain a prominent position. 

Meanwhile don't pick fights by crossing the powerful. Why is this so hard to get for some. Yell about international rules and peace but it will not go anywhere. Play your hand right and that will get your much better results.Too bad most of us do not get it.


Faramarz

دیزی چنده!

Faramarz


"Take Faramarz with a grain of salt!"

They laughed at Galileo too because he said the Earth goes round the sun.

Keep an eye on your salt intake.


Tiger Lily

"Fact: who is the real threat to peace?"

by Tiger Lily on

 

"Fact: Iran does not possess a nuclear weapon.

Fact: Iran has the right, according to international law, to develop nuclear energy for civilian use.

Fact: Iran’s nuclear energy program is regularly monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Fact: Iran has never started a war.

Fact:
The United States possesses 10,600 nuclear warheads in its stockpile,
7,982 of which are deployed and 2,700 of which are in a contingency
stockpile. The total number of nuclear warheads that have been built
from 1951 to present is 67,500.

Fact:
The United States is the only country to have ever used nuclear
weapons. It did so when it incinerated hundreds of thousands of Japanese
people living in the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Neither city had
any military significance.

Fact:
The United States has spent $7 trillion on nuclear weapons. The U.S.
military budget for 2012 alone is about equal to Iran’s entire Gross
National Product.

Fact:
Israel, the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid (about $3 billion in
2011), unlike Iran, possesses hundreds of nuclear weapons.

Fact:
Israel, unlike Iran, refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
Treaty, or allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) into
Israel to monitor its nuclear program.

Fact:
There is active discussion in the Israeli media about whether Israel
will carry out military strikes against Iran’s nuclear energy
facilities. Israel bombed similar nuclear civilian energy facilities in
Iraq in 1981 (“Operation Babylon”) and in Syria in 2007 (“Operation
Orchard”).

Fact:
The United States and Britain used severe economic sanctions and CIA
covert operatives to overthrow the democratically elected government of
Iran led by Dr. Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953. The Iranian government under
Mosaddegh had nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), which
became known as British Petroleum (BP), in a campaign to use oil profits
to eradicate widespread poverty within Iran. The successful CIA and
British Intelligence coup d’état put the Shah of Iran (King) back in
power. The Shah’s dictatorship denationalized Iranian oil and returned
it to the ownership of British and U.S. oil companies. The Shah executed
and tortured thousands during his 26-year bloody reign, which ended in
the 1979 revolution that created the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Fact:
The United States broke diplomatic relations with Iran and has pursued a
policy of economic sanctions against the country since the overthrow of
the U.S.-backed Shah (King).

Fact:
Iran’s oil reserves are the fourth largest in the world—it has 12.7
percent of the world’s known oil reserves. That makes Iran’s oil
reserves second only to Saudi Arabia in the Middle East, greater than
those of Iraq.

Fact:
The new economic sanctions against Iran include a ban on the import,
sale and trade of Iranian oil, which constitutes half of Iran’s Gross
National Product. It forbids any company in the world that does any
business with Iran or its Central Bank from having any trade or economic
transaction with a U.S. bank or corporation.

Fact:
The economic sanctions are an effort to create economic suffering in
Iran and to deprive the country of the goods and services to sustain
life. According to international law, these economic sanctions
constitute a blockade or an act of war against Iran even though Iran
poses no threat to the people of the United States or Europe.

 The
ANSWER Coalition is organizing or supporting several of the Feb. 4
demonstrations taking place across the country in opposition to the new
threats against Iran. Please make an urgently needed donation now to
support this critical work.

 

http://www.answercoalition.org/la/news/factsheet-w...

ENDORSED BY: American Iranian Friendship Committee •
ANSWER Coalition • Antiwar.com • Bail Out The People Movement (BOPM) •
Cindy Sheehan, National Co-ordinator of Peace of the Action • CODEPINK
Women for Peace • ComeHomeAmerica.us • David Swanson, Author, “When the
World Outlawed War” • Defenders for Freedom, Justice &
Equality-Virginia • Delegation’s Journey through the Islamic Republic” •
George Phillies, Editor for Liberty for America • Granny Peace Brigade •
International Action Center (IAC) • Karla Hansen, Producer/Director
“Silent Screams” • Malcolm X Center for Self Determination • Minnesota
Peace Action Coalition • Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS)
• Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) • Peace of the Action
Phil Wilayto, Author, “In Defense of Iran: Notes from a U.S. Peace •
Ramsey Clark, Former US Attorney General, awarded UN Human Rights Award •
Ray McGovern, Veterans for Peace • Refugee Apostolic Catholic Church •
SI! Solidarity with Iran • St. Pete for Peace • Twin Cities Peace
Campaign • United National Anti-War Committee (UNAC) • Veterans for
Peace – NYC Chapter 034 • Waco Friends of Peace • WAMM, Women Against
Military Madness • We Won’t Fly • WESPAC Foundation • Workers World
Party • World Can’t Wait

http://www.answercoalition.org/la/news/feb-4-day-o...

 

 

next event in Londonistan, 11th Feb...


Disenchanted

Expat, thanks for the kind words...welcome aboard!

by Disenchanted on

NIAC stands for what VPK said. Faramarz is a bit sheytoon so take his words with a grain of salt (rather salt shaker!) :-) Bavafa jon I hear you.. 

expat

Thanks folks

by expat on

I know who all the groups are and what they stand for, just didn't know the abbreviations. One thing, NIAC has 2 meanings? Or are they the same thing really? And I truly didn't know what they meant VKP (though I'm officially still 'ghahr' with you cos you cyber-shouted at me and called me mean things :-( )


vildemose

Targeting

by vildemose on

Targeting expats:

http://iranian.com/main/news/2012/02/05/iran-targeting-expatriates

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


Faramarz

NIAC Stands for

by Faramarz on

Non-Iranian-American Community


iraj khan

Expat,

by iraj khan on

You may also want to know what AIPAC stands for:

AIPAC stands for:

American-Israeli Political Action Committee.

And their action on IC (that stands for Iranian.com) includes - among other activities- publishing ads in 'Support of Israel'.

Meanwhile Israel is using everything in her power to destroy Iran.

I'm just saying,

Iraj


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Expat

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

You got to be kidding since a simple Google will tell you but here you go:

  • NIAC - National Iranian American Council
  • MEK - Mojahedin e Khalgh aka Rajavi gang
  • VP - Velayat Fagih aka Khamenei.

You got to get the basics down. And honestly if you don't know these  you should spend a day reading about various things including these.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

MassoudA Jan

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

My take is that we fight when it makes sense but only then. If I was in Iran and American soldiers came I would not fight one bit. In reality I would volunteer to take them right to the Mollahs.Then to AN and watch them cuffed and taken.

Any war is the direct fault of Islamic Republic: they are guilty. In order to minimize the damage do not fight back. Do we want Iran to be like the Kurdish part of Iraq or Sunni? Kurds cooperated; are doing great.Sunni fought and mostly hurt themselves.


expat

Erm, stupid question..

by expat on

..But what does NIAC mean? And MEK? And VF?

Not hot on the abbreviations here..

 


masoudA

There are DOERS and then there are TALKERS!!!

by masoudA on

Us Eyranians are peaceful TALKERS....we let the most hated bunch in our culture (Akhoonds) to become our leaders......we love what America stand for and would do anything to live in America......yet we TALK a big game on how we will defend our country against US or any agressions!!!!   lool - wake up guys - invasion of Iran by foreign forces is nothing new - USA and it's allies invaded Iran during WW2, they exiled our king......and we filled their consulates with flowers.   The older generation talks about British Flags that went up in every house.....lol

Stop the BS - If USA and it's alies attack IR, not only we will not defend the IR - but majority would start looking for Akhoonda and Hezis making sure they don't escape. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Why fight USA

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Here is a possible scenario and even an impossible or not very likely one. But I am going to say them anyway.

  1. USA attacks Iran or IRI. Overthrows IRI then holds elections as they did in Iraq. People  choose a sane leader who negotiates decent terms with the West. Iran gets to be a part of the normal world. The sanctions get removed and many go back. Iran starts to prosper or at least come out of the dump. Radical Islamic rules are removed. People get to walk around without moral police.
  2. USA attacks; brave Iranians fight and "win". IRI remains in power and we are "proud". Iranians suffer more under IRI. No free elections; sanctions remain and get worse. Iranians keep running away at any opportunity.

All the first one requires is we put away false pride and xenophobia.

The second one is not really possible with the IRI military. But if it does happen we get to say "marg bar amrica". Then go watch the next public hanging.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Alright Mehrdad

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

If you were a Frenchman in 1040s would you fight America to save Vichy? Rampant anit Americanism is blinding some people.

Good luck


Bavafa

VPK: It is not siding with IRI...

by Bavafa on

It is siding with the Iranian people. 

But as you said we maybe just going around a circle and not much reason for arguing.  Just agree to disagree.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Mehrdad

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

This is getting old and we just repeat things.

  • I do not think attacking IRI is the same as attacking Iran. You disagree.
  • Iran is occupied already by Islamic invaders. It never got really free. One invader Islamic against another one. Why side with the Islamic gang.

I do not agree with pro IRI people but at least get why they take the positions. I don't understand why an anti-IRI person wants others to fight to preserve it.


Bavafa

VPK: No one is blaming YOU for IRI...

by Bavafa on

I am merely suggesting

  • The passiveness expressed by you helped losing Iran to IRI.
  • Iran is worth fighting for
  • Your suggestion of not resisting against what it would be a foreign military occupier, is offensive to me

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


FACEBOOK