Anti-war protest in New York

Rally against possible attack on Iran

AFP: Hundreds of protesters demonstrated Saturday in New York and pacifist groups took to the streets in dozens of other US and Canadian cities in a "Day of Mass Action" against a possible war with Iran. About 500 protesters gathered in Manhattan's Times Square and marched to the headquarters of the US mission to the United Nations and to the Israeli consulate. "No war, no sanctions, no intervention, no assassinations," read a banner leading the march >>>


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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

SK jan

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I don't know about MG.

HTG got banned a while ago. He was getting really angry and posts were showing it. I don't know for sure but suspect that is the reason. He got unblocked for a short time then must have got re-banned.

I am opposed to banning of most people including: SamSam; HTG and even JK. Banning is like amputation. You only do it when there is no other option!


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Mehrdad

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

You post was so offensive I am going to reply again:

No wonder the Mullahs took over Iran so easily and have stayed in power for 33 years.  When are we to grow self-dignity to stand up for against aggression, both by IRI and foreign occupiers.

That is really something to blame me for IRI! Don't you get it that the argument is not about whether to fight. It is about when and how. 

  • The intelligence to know  what is worth fighting for.
  • The wisdom to know when to fight and when to run.

By the way, running does not mean giving up, heard of "live to fight another day".

 

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Responses

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

Ahmad: I know Israel worked behind the scenes. You need to read my posts.
  • If there is an attack on Iran America will be blamed no matter what.
  • Israel may not attack Iran without American help and approval.
  • Israel does not have the might to do it.
That means a successful attack will need America. A direct act by Israel will inflame more anger toward it. So Israel might as well let America do the work. This is my point as proven in Iraq Mehrdad: We argued this many times. You are plain wrong. A fight depends on several things:
  • Is the goal worth it? The goal of keeping IRI in power is not worth it to me. However you disguise it this is what the fight is about.
  • What are the chances of the outcome. Here inhiallation is almost 100% for soldiers. 

You dress it as you wish. But this is not about patriotism. No more than fighting for Vichi France would have been. It is about keepin Mollahs in power.  


expat

Disenchanted..

by expat on

Loving your work buddy :)

Agree, agree, agree..

Love and Peace. 


Ahmed from Bahrain

VPK asks a question

by Ahmed from Bahrain on

and answers it himself! "Did Israel get involved in Iraq: no!" AM not sure where you get this answer which doesn't even reflect the staunch Zionist's point of view coz they are truly beligerrent these days and make no bones about taking down Iran but prefer USA to send American kids to do it for them.

Suggest you do a bit of Google on 'Israel involvement in Iraq." but here is some reading for you if you can stomach it: "//www.brussellstribunal.org/pdf/IsraelinIraq.pdf

AIPAC, Neocons, Fox, Horowitz, Pearl, Kristol, Pipes, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Straus and that bulldog Bolton who makes no bones about worshipping Israel. They are all sworn Zionists who beat the drum wars to Iraq with their favourite quote "The road to Tehran is through Baghdad"; which was going to be "cake walk" according to Pearle, no. 1 war-monger.

Peace out.

Ahmed from Bahrain 


Dr. Mohandes

AO

by Dr. Mohandes on

I have a better plan.

I think some iranians should volunteer dressing up as Newspaper boys and just stick around "pre-identified" and tagged homes belonging to certain iranians and wait and wait until they stuck their head out and begin to scan the area and grab their Motches (wrists) and just drag them into the van... or that cattle ride you mentioned. Bekhoda it will do some of them some major , honest to goodness, Good!

The camp experience will bring their resilient and Humane side out for sure. They will Thank the administrators and creators of such plan immensley and endlessly.

So...what do you say? should we start petitioning DHS so they can get started right away without killing a second? oh, oh. and make sure those guys have definitely a camera handy in order to snatch the look on the faces of those targetted while uttering these precious and scholarly....

Eheh...Mister, vat ar u doeeng? i gave taxes to de goverment!! at leest geev me refund before you take me!! i will talk veet my atooorney...ve veel sooouu you!! Kan i talk to prezident Obama? veel der be chelokabab in thoze camps? Kan i beereeng my couzins and aunties? 

Bet it will be just hilarious... 


default

The time will tell

by rain bow movment on

I'm not angery at western & Eastern Pirate governments like(UK,EU,USA,China,Russia). as they do evrything in their power to serv the best interest of their country.

I'm angery at hypocrite theivs , on IR pay list ,clue less hot headed Iranian .with no agenda and direction to show the  Iranian and other nations how they want to change this murderous regim.

do they think IR regime will suddenly disappear overnight magicly by a group of theives & collaborator like (mosavi,khatami,rafsanjani,ganji and Co and so many other crooks).

these demonstrator are consist of false nationalist ,tudehee, Iranian theives investing in Iran and supporting this regim for their own advantage and IR theives investing in the west  to have a place  for the IR doomsday.

first of all none of these government gives a Damn about these kind of demonstrations .

they have plan long long befor bring the IR in power ,they have agreements and they act decisively when the time is right.

I'm not in favor of war on Iran,but in favor of sanctions on IR regime in any direction.

The real outcome is the rise of people to topple this inhumane regime.

if the IR got into some deal with these pirate governments, then the people have to take the matter into their own hands.

by the way the so called nuclear scientist(basiji)they are not realy scintist, are killed by IR agent to stimulate some fool nationalist and islamist fever.

 

NO WAR ON IRAN,SUPPORT THE REGIME CHANGE,SUPPORT DEMOCRACY MOVMENT & SECULARISM IN IRAN.

YES TO SANCTIONS ON IR REGIME TO END THIS REGIME 

 

There is no limit to stupidity & ignorance hypocite Iranian


Disenchanted

Well someone is confused alright! ;-)

by Disenchanted on

 

        Siavash300, everyone who reads my statement that you quoted and your response below it can tell who is the confused between two of us! :-)

       I mentioned the "violent entity in Tel Aviv" and you talk about Jews' suffering ad nauseum! To identify Jews with Netanyahu gov. and Likud party and bunch of religious nuts in west bank is CONFUSION, and its yours! 

      I also have issue with people who are obsessed with history be it 1400 years ago or even further 2000 years ago! He who looks in the rear mirror all the time ends up in a ditch! :-)

      Reza Pahlai whom you are so fond of has explicitly declared his opposition to aggression against Iran. This post is about concern of an imminent attack by Israel on Iran so you better express concern for innocent Iranian people. People of Israel always can go back where they came from. Iranians, be it Muslims, Christians, Jews, Turk, Kurd & Balooch are in their homeland and have no other place to go!

            GOAL: Restoring sanity to the world!


مآمور

having fun

by مآمور on

it is all about fun and the ways to get some!!! just to let know I am left with a pile of paperwork that needs to be done and sent to my boss, therfore, I wont show up in here for next few days. Gilani jon u make sure u keep track of every move here for me. perhaps, next time u travel to Iran to take care of your personal business, I could get u some good recommandation letter from my boss!!!then u and me collectivelly go to your tea farm and discuss how peacefully israel can stop iranian nukes. say hi to sholam and ask her not to bomb your hamshahrie, would u???

I wear an Omega watch


Siavash300

Disenchanted's confusion

by Siavash300 on

"I can't see any reason whatsoever that someone who calls him/herself Iranian let alone human being support a violent entity like the one in Tel aviv" Disenchanted

I call myself Iranian and I have feeling for jews in Israel as our king Koroush e Kabir had for them over 2000 years ago. I am Iranian and I don't want anything happen to jews who were brutally massacred by Nazi Germany. I don't want to see another hollucast taken place by Islamic fundamentalism. I am Iranian and I admire our shah who had peacefully relationship with all our neighbores including state of Israel. I still don't understand what that  moneky who calls himself Iran president had in mind when he said Israel has to be wipe off the map. Imagine those who were burned in gas chamber by Nazi Germany were your biological brothers and sisters or your relatives.  How do you feel about it.?

That is Israel's right to defend her citizens. I feel for all jews who had been oppressed either in U.S or in the middle east. I hope one day we all live with state of Israel in peace and harmony. That day is not that far. In that day, our crown Reza Pahlavi takes the office. On that day, happiness will come back to our country. Our people will be happy again as they were during shah's days.

                       GOAL : RESTORING MONARCHY


Ferdowsi

Two criminal regimes! One against her own people, one others!

by Ferdowsi on

And they both are religious governments! Is this what religions do? Or is it using the name of the religion? Shame on Israel and IRI!


Roozbeh_Gilani

Azize del, honestly we all believe you...

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Mamoor Pendar joon, We believe you that you are somewhere so important that no one would believe it. That you can single handedly kill every american and jew on the planet with a single swipe of your keyboard, that you can block the straits of hurmorz with a click of your mouse, that you'll single handedly make a nuke bomb for Doctor, that Time square is just beneath you, that is why you did not turn up. we are simply not worthy.

OK? Now go get some rest, you've been on this site 24/7, waste of time for someone as important as you...


Bavafa

VPK jaan: with such attitude…

by Bavafa on

The smart soldiers will surrender or run. The ones who fight will die

 

  

No wonder the Mullahs took over Iran so easily and have stayed in power for 33 years.  When are we to grow self-dignity to stand up for against aggression, both by IRI and foreign occupiers.

  Such advocacy is plainly shameful in my book

 

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


مآمور

I better get out of here

by مآمور on

before my identity or even worse my face get revealed, before people who have purchased the right of being the sole voice of iranians in the west break my watch, before the forces of good with their hearts filled with love for Iran get angry at me, before these well educated, perfectly speaking english bunch run out of patience, .........

I better go back to my cave in Iran.

scary stuff here, didnt expect that!!!!

I wear an Omega watch


Roozbeh_Gilani

'Pieces of bodies, children, women'

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Friends, fellow Iranians, Make no mistakes, this is what these warmongers, these west residing cowardly nameless, faceless keyboard warriers,  in service of NIAC and islamist regime with their hearts full of contempt for Iran and it's people want for Iran and it's people.

This is why they repeat the shameless accusations of Fascist IRI against it's opposition, , this time against us, shamelessly accusing the rest of us, the anti-war/anti IRI folks, of warmongering and support for foreign countries.  This is why they dont dare turning up for or showing their faces even in IRI sponsored demonstrations in west. This is why they are all already on the run , residing in west.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Anonymous Observer

RG Jan - Can we be bunkmates in the internment camp?

by Anonymous Observer on

A couple of things that you will need to know about me though before we can bunk together: 1. I will have my puppy with me. She's almost house trained. So, we should be good there. 2. I read late into the night. But I will have my little reading light. Other than that, we should be good. Oh, I sometimes snore. Sorry! You think they will have a running track for us there? We can FINALLY go out for that run that we have been planning. Perhaps we can also train for the mini ironman too while we're at it. We'll have nothing else to do.

Does anyone know what color patches they wil make us wear, and what design it will be? Hmmmm... Perhaps Amir1973 can bunk with us too. that'll be extra cool!

I wonder why people who are so paranoid about being put in a camp by the fascist United States do not immediately pack and move back to the safety of the Islamic Republic of Iran? Problem solved, no? They don't have to wake up every morning, slowly open their front doors and look to see if DHS agents are waiting to put them in cattle cars headed for the camps!

I hear you folks. I have it on good authority that you are being identified by the government as we speak. In fact, I even heard some of you were even "tagged" (and unfortunately "probed") while you were asleep. Quickly folks! I'm telling you: get your plane tickets while you can. Next thing you know, the Jooooz will close all the airports in Iran. The time to move back is NOW! Save yourselves before it's too late!!!!!


مآمور

ی فراموش نشود خواهیم

مآمور


 پس انهای که در خانه اشان در غرب نشسته اند آرزوی حمله به ایران را در خواب تشخوار می کنند همه مشتی بزدل ترسو هستند؟؟؟؟
من میدونستم گلانیها همه دلاور هستند.
فراموش کن آلبالو را بگو از کیوی و مرکبات
شما زیاد هم به هوش و فراست گیلانی خود مغرور نشو مکانی که من زندگی میکنم   ممکن باعث تعجب شما شود اگر واقعیت را بدانی

I wear an Omega watch


Disenchanted

SK jan you are welcome....

by Disenchanted on

...and the reply to the other post: I have always maintained on this site that it is easy to see why some Iranians here are against IRI and at times throw the baby with the bath water. However I can't see any reason whatsoever that someone who calls him/herself Iranian let alone human being support a violent entity like the one in Tel aviv!       In other words just the fact that you are anti IRI does not grant support for Israel and if you do you better have a very good explanation otherwise one justifyably assumes that .... 

AMIR1973

Another Case of Jooooo-on-the-Brain-Syndrome

by AMIR1973 on

How do they treat Iranians in Tel Aviv?! How is life there?

And why is it that the Peace Lovers/Newly Converted Super Duper Iranian Uber Patriots/Cyber Martyrs for Palestine seem to suffer from the most acute variety of this Syndrome (any blogs on Beautiful Palestine today)? 


Roozbeh_Gilani

اگر به ایران حمله شود در جواب چنان درسی به ایشان خواهم داد

Roozbeh_Gilani


Pendar joon: First: calm down, bad for your blood pressure. Second: Some (not me of course) might say all this brave talk of killing israelis and americans, from the safety of your residence in west, is talk of a coward, and pure Bull Cr*p. So to make all of them (not me, i know you are the bravest and biggest and strongest and can pi*s furthest....) start believing you at least do me a favour by  escorting aloobaloo khanoom to the next demo in Time square. Dont worry, You'll have a Gilani Chai on me :)  

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Soosan Khanoom

Dear VPK

by Soosan Khanoom on

Since you mentioned Mash Ghasem, do you know where is he?   I hope everythng is fine with MG. He should know that he has been missed. 

Furthermore, i have no idea why Hooshang is blocked.  Does anyone know why?

 


Soosan Khanoom

Disenchanted jan ... loved what you said

by Soosan Khanoom on

 The redneck down in S. Carolina really wouldn't give  ahoot that you are Shahi or Lefty or Sabzy or Jew or what! You are an eye ranian and out of luck! ;-)


Soosan Khanoom

MK

by Soosan Khanoom on

With all its misfortunes Iran is not a concentration camp ...  I know people are tired of this regime and everyone has a good reason to not want this regime.

I have just come back from Iran there was not a single taxi driver .. A single passer by that I ran into ... A single friend of mine over there who did not wish for these mullas to go away.  But at the same time I could not find a single person to be a war advocate and prefer war and destructions over living in Iran under the current regime.  


Masoud Kazemzadeh

GR jaan

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

GR jaan,

You are welcome and thank you.

MK


Soosan Khanoom

Mehrdad and Disenchanted and all the anti war voices here

by Soosan Khanoom on

This war was planned long time ago.    If you recall, I posted the Toread the entire Brookings Institute report, "Which Path to Persia?"click here.  

AS it has been commented here

The future of Iran is clear

Meeting of so called Terrorist group with king of Jordan after 12 years is no surprise either.   These groups have been created by Isreal to begin with.

The empty threats from Iranian officals including the VF and all those "Jang Jang ta pyroozi " slogans are also a calculated plan to start a war.

The amount of mischives is overwelming and the least one can do is to be activily involved in the anti-war movements.  We should let our voices to be heard ... nevermind of all the labels and accussations and nevermind the fools on this site. 

by the way mehrdad , based on the quote below

There are over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency)  and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.  "  

And with Obama's new year surprises nothing is impossible.  

 


مآمور

let's rock

by مآمور on

 من همچون شما طرفدار جنگ هستم و به ۲ دلیل
۱-اگر به ایران حمله شود در جواب چنان درسی به ایشان خواهیم داد که بار بندیل خود را جمع کرده و به همان جای که ار ان آمده بودنند برگردن.به قول ريیسم ان وقت معلوم می شود ایران شعار می داد یا اعزرائیل؟
۲-با شلیک فقط یک گلوله به طرف ایران بقای رژیم برای ۳۳ دیگر تضمین شده
هر چند از این جبونها که دختر ۵ ساله در ساحل غزه میکشند بعید که با دم شیر بازی کنند.
شما هم آقای گیلانی چرا یک بلاگ درباره وضع اسف بار چای در گیلان نمینویسی که من دیلمی کمی با شما هم اوازی کنم و ازمدیریت بیکفایت آن انتقاد سازنده کنم.
امید به آن بزدلان بچه کش نبند. صهونیستها به سمبه پر زور که ببینن تمام برلیانهایشان و ساعتها گران قیمشان را انداخته دنبال سوراخ موش میگردند

I wear an Omega watch


Disenchanted

Daer VPK jaan, azize delam

by Disenchanted on

 

     how fast is your internet connection?! :-) Do you get the news?!


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Disenchanted Jan

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Jew baiting is not going to work. Mr. Bibi is not going to be doing a war. If done it will be America. Did Israel get involved in Iraq: no! Because there is no point. If they do anything it will just inflame passions and they know it.

 


Disenchanted

Amir007 every discussion for you ends up in Holocaust!

by Disenchanted on

 

        How do they treat Iranians in Tel Aviv?! How is life there?


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

What "body bags"

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

It is funny how much hysteria I see. If there is a war America will wipe out the IR without any significant loss. Face it people the military balance is so far off IR has no chance. American military is orders of magnitude more powerful.

The smart soldiers will surrender or run. The ones who fight will die. There is no point fighting a no win battle to save the Mollah regime. Why should anyone fight to keep the VF? Are they nuts.

If there is a war the best way to minimize damage is to not fight. No resistance means no reason for Americans to keep shooting. They come; put away the mullahs and hold elections. No matter how flawed they won't be worse than IRI. 


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