POETRY

You are still missing the point

and talking about constipation remedies.... just take a look at Ramin Parsa's bab-log. the remedies are working!!!!!

بت شکن

Next time you get the urge to barge in with your bare feet to where you don't belong, take a moment and take some of your constipation remedies!

I know what the point is

but clearly you don't. So there is no point to talk about the point.

بت شکن

So why did you bring it up then?

What's the point?

If you haven't got it by now then there is no point talking about the point.

copier101

You know that religions are only our time-restricted interpretation of a general message. Some of these interpretations work for the given time and some don’t and some are more advanced than the others.

Iranian literature is a battleground for these conflicting ideas. In classical Persian literature there is always a debate between two groups of people, Zaheds (the blind followers) and Dervishes/Rends (with advanced views) about Shahed (the beauty) who is the subject of worship for Zaheds and love for Dervishes.

Accordingly Zaheds’ interpretation of Koran and what they preach about our outlook towards life including the treatment of women is fundamentally different from what of Dervishes.

For a glimpse of other interpretation about the treatment of women please follow this link:
//www.sublimequran.org/

Here is one translation I found online, Qur'an 2:223

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"Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers."

Partial English Translation. That’s the best I can do

With my broken English:

Be alert! There are some thieves in the city,

Stealing from people very cleverly.

The "Rends" who have an enlightened heart and are happy with no doubt,

Can set things in motion in the universe with one shout.

The clandestine guardians want your life in exchange of their secrets,

And they have an abundant amount of wine, which is not made of aged grapes.

They are the apostles of that beautiful face whom everyone is searching for,

Although they have faces but they are the enemy of any superficial face…

Molana Rumi, Ghazalyat-e Shamse Tabrizi

هله هش دار که

هله هش دار که در شهر دو سه طرارند

که به تدبیر کلاه از سر مه بردارند

دو سه رندند که هشیاردل و سرمستند

که فلک را به یکی عربده در چرخ آرند

سردهانند که تا سر ندهی سر ندهند

ساقیانند که انگور نمی‌افشارند

یار آن صورت غیبند که جان طالب اوست

همچو چشم خوش او خیره کش و بیمارند

صورتی‌اند ولی دشمن صورت‌هااند

در جهانند ولی از دو جهان بیزارند

همچو شیران بدرانند و به لب می‌خندند

دشمن همدگرند و به حقیقت یارند

خرفروشانه یکی با دگری در جنگند

لیک چون وانگری متفق یک کارند

همچو خورشید همه روز نظر می‌بخشند

مثل ماه و ستاره همه شب سیارند

گر به کف خاک بگیرند زر سرخ شود

روز گندم دروند ار چه به شب جو کارند

دلبرانند که دل بر ندهد بی‌برشان

سرورانند که بیرون ز سر و دستارند

شکرانند که در معده نگردند ترش

شاکرانند و از آن یار چه برخوردارند

مردمی کن برو از خدمتشان مردم شو

زانک این مردم دیگر همه مردم خوارند

بس کن و بیش مگو گر چه دهان پرسخنست

زانک این حرف و دم و قافیه هم اغیارند

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Thank you, Rennd!!! 

Delaram Banafsheh (Yolanda)

"Cactus in the Desert"

بت شکن

"If sly is supposed to be Rend, then you have lost the point".

Let me know what you mean. I am curious to know what you think the point was. Just for my own feedback use and see what people's interpretations are with respect to the symbolism been used here.

Thanks,

acopier101, Midwesty,

acopier101,

I wish you could translate it to English.

acopier101,Midwesty,

Again it's your poem, interpret it however you want to.

Yolanda,

Don't know what to say...Vatican teaches sex education, priest doesn't mean necessarily a catholic priest, they used to call the holly men in the ancient Egypt or Persia priests too.

It's your poem up to you how to interpret it.

Bitter jan,

Thanks for your comment and the nice poem. You are a poet better than I am.

Just a quick question: Don't you think even the blond and shallow ones are still women?

There is no equivalent meaning for Rend

If sly is supposed to be Rend, then you have lost the point.

"And among His signs is

"And among His signs is this, that He has created for you mates from among yourselves, that you may dwell in tranquility with them; and He has put love and mercy between you. Verily in that are signs for those who reflect (are thinkers)." [Noble Quran 30:21]

متن مورد استناد آيه ۲۲۳ سوره بقره به شرح ذيل است:

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نِسَآؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُواْ حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّى شِئْتُمْ وَقَدِّمُواْ لأَنفُسِكُمْ وَاتَّقُواْ اللّهَ وَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّكُم مُّلاَقُوهُ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

"زنان شما (همچون) كشتزار شما هستند، پس هر زمان خواستيد به كشتزار خويش در آييد و اثر نيكي براي خود، از پيش بفرستيد! و از خدا پروا كنيد و بدانيد كه به لقاي او نايل خواهيد شد؛ و اهل ايمان را (براي آن ملاقات) بشارت داده".

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It sounded like a very bad preacher. I thought a priest does not know anything about women.....they are supposed to be celibate.......I maybe wrong or naive....thank you.

Delaram Banafsheh (Yolanda)

"Cactus in the Desert"

Yeah! There lays the problem

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You have to make up your mind
Do you want her brain or her behind?
Do you want someone shallow or refined?

Do you want a "dumb blonde" or someone well defined?
Do want someone to farm, or someone divined?

Life is a bitch, it’s a grind
So, make up your mind
What kind, what kind?