GAZA

REPLY : MY NAIGHBOURE, the SYRIAN

He hates the ajams. Although he is an academician. So I read in the article of the respectable author. I wounder if such a syrian is the true representabnt of the arabs. However i ask myself who loves whom in this globalized materialized world? it is possible that also that syrian is just jealous about iran and iranians. On the other side the foreigners are the most best tool to fight the foreigners. Thjis is managed by originates. just as in holocoust camps. The jews were recruited against jews. They never solidarized which each other.regarding Arafat: In the war against Iran he did not do much but all negligible actions. he came to Iran after the revolution. he was alowede to go to the farmer israeli`s Embassy. The strret in which the building is was then called FELESTIN Street. Arafat showed not being worth to enjoy full iranian support. he did not got any remarkabel help from iran. Anyway by all means we cpuld count which speak against Arafat i think one better takes into account that he is now dead. The fact is that he did not recieved from "free western" world that what he had expected. The Palestinains seem to have learned from thier youngest history and from Iranians. The not any more so great satan lays since long in his death bed snapping for air. The palestine occupying system get solved. the inhabitants go back to the countries where they came originally from. Fact and truth is that the arabs do not follow such a clear Line as Iranians. But the arab nations have begann to act as the Model ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN offers. The arab politicians will have to follow. See Egypt, Saudi arabia and a nummber of other arab countries. Greeting

REPLY : WHY NOT IRAN?, realy why not?

May be it could be a little helpfull to understand the problem with GAZA and palestine if one also acknowledeges a bit what the officials have to say about. I just found this statement:

Mottaki: Gaza developments results of secret agreements in Annapolis confab
Feb 3,2008

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said on Sunday that the current developments in Gaza Strip are the results of secret agreements made in Annapolis conference.
Addressing an extraordinary meeting of the foreign ministers of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) in Jeddah on Sunday, he said the claims raised by US President George W.
Bush in Annapolis conference about formation of a Jewish country indicated they had made a secret agreement to expel Muslims and Christians from Palestine.
Some 150 Palestinians have been massacred since the end of Annapolis conference, he pointed out.
After Annapolis conference, the Zionist regime closed all border crossings and cut humanitarian aid to people besides launching a full scale land and air attack on people in Gaza, Mottaki said.
The atrocities of the Zionist regime have claimed lives of over 5,000 Palestinians in the past eight years, he said.
Supporting the Zionist regime is now very costly and they are now witnessing its downfall after its defeat in the 33-day war in Lebanon, he said.
Referring to the promises and slogans of the US presidential nominees, he said making a drastic change in US policy in the Middle East region should top the agenda of the next US president.
Islamic countries should abide by their pledges to boycott the Zionist regime, Mottaki underlined.
The United Nations should pay due attention to current developments in Gaza Strip and fulfill its duty to prevent the atrocities of the Zionist regime, Mottaki said. Greeting

Dearest Anonymous Observer

Civilizations are not built upon the thought of Plato and Socrates!!!  Come on please...and furthermore Islamic civilization isn't built upon Hossein's paedophilia, which seems to be your implication.  If that's not, and you're referring to the emphasis upon martydom that is pivotal to Shi'i thought, then who is to say that paedophilia and self-sacrifice cannot live side by side?  Nietzsche showed us a long time ago that some of the most 'transcendent' values come from some of the most debased and despicable origins.  It's only the ascetic priests who believe that we should jettison such ideas because they haven't emerged from virginal and pristine beginnings.  They can still function and have a profound effect nevertheless.  In particular such beleifs can inspire others not to bow to oppression and fight worldly repression.  Khomeini used this and it can in turn be used by the masses against the IRI.  I'm not taking a side here I am merely observing that it remains profound and powerful.  Also an idea and its expression in practice is hardly as clear cut an issue as you make out.  Because people decide to engage in self-flagellation that doesn't mean that such practices express the kernel or essential in a particular belief or set of ideas.  Because something is perverted or interpreted differently in particular historical times and places that doesn't mean that the idea in question in merely the sum of such expressions.  Finally, Theodor W. Adorno thought and argued that the Holocaust, foremost Auschwitz was a consequence of Platonic metaphysics, so maybe you should start looking into it as promised.  Good luck, you have your work cut out for you...ES

RE: Mr. Eskandar Sadeghi

Not to prolong this, but I actually enjoy this dialogue. I wanted to address your point about my “obsession” with Hossein’s pedophilia and his comparison with Aristotle and Plato. First, I am not obsessed with the issue. I am obsessed with historical accuracy and debunking superstitious myths, especially those emanating from a foreign culture. Second, sure, Aristotle and Plato were pedophiles as well, but they should not be subjected to the same scrutiny as Hossein, because unlike Hossein, they are not God-like figures upon whom an entire culture and belief system is built. When we start seeing people beating their chests, cutting themselves and sacrificing their lives in the name of Aristotle and Plato, I will scrutinize them as well!!

فلسطین آخر به ما چه؟!

اصلآ فلسطین به ما چه؟ وقتی بزرگترین ملتهای عرب مانند مصر و عربستان سعودی نه تنها سکوت اختیار کرده اند بلکه به دشمن فلسطینی ها کمک میکنند، ما چرا کاسه داغ تر از آش باشیم؟ تاریخ نه چندان گذشته به ما آموخته که احساس و غریضه ملی عربها من جمله فلسطینی ها بر علیه ما "عجم" هاست! مگر یادتان رفته که دست عسل آلود خمینی هنوز تا آرنج در دهان یاسر عرفات فلان فلان شده بود که به طرفداری از سردار قادسیه آن را گاز گرفت؟ بنده در کانادا همسایه سوری دارم که بدون شک و بدون هیچ دلیل میدانم از ما نفرت دارد تنها بدلیل اینکه ایرانی هستیم! این همسایه دکتر و تحصیل کرده هم هست! از ندانستن و بی سوادی نیست که نژاد پرست است! حالا کسی هست که به ما بگوید ما چرا باید با کاسه داغ تر از آش شدن فلان خود را با شاخ گاو اسراییل و آمریکا درگیر کنیم؟! مخالف کمک به انسانهای محتاج نیستیم! به فلسطینی ها هم کمک کنیم. ولی به حد متعادل و معقول! مواضع رادیکال و بحث برانگیز در دفاع از فلسطینی ها چه منفعتی غیر از گوشه گیری و طرد شدن برای ایران داشته است؟ اگر زیاده روی ها در این زمینه نبود یه چه بهانه ای میتوانستند پیشرفت فناوری هسته ای در ایران را زیر سوال ببرند؟

Thanks again

I agree that realpolitik is the governing rationale of Arab states as it is with all states.  That's hardly a profound or penetrating observation.  My Noon o Kebab comment was merely a quotidian observation and was intended as such as I made clear.  Furthermore, you essentializing of Arabs and myself as an IRANIAN is simply illegitimate and flies in the face of experience.  There isn't some determinate Arab essence that you can single out, just as there isn't an Iranian one.  It's when dogmas such as these gain currency that the world gets absolutely f**cked!  Of course the UAE is jockeying to strenghten it position vis-a-vis Iran - I've read Machiavelli my friend and I've studied old wily Henry Kissinger, so it really isn't news to me that the self-interest of states dictates their decisions in the international arena.  Also your obsession with Hossein being a paedophile is really strange; by your lights Socrates and Plato are also worthy of villification, the only difference is that they molested young boys!  Anyway I have to say that you have given me some food for thought and the next time you're in Dubai be sure to drop me an email.  Kind regards, Eskandar.

RE: Eskandar Sadeghi

I read your comments, and I have to disagree with your statements. Your analysis of the Dubai situation is simplistic and superficial. First, as you know, Dubai is, and has always been a unique situation among Persian Gulf States, and even the Arab world. Aside from the fact that most “Emiarati” citizens are of Iranian descent, lacking any notable oil resources independently, Dubai has always relied on substantial trade with Iran and other nations for its survival. Second, I too never experience any disrespect during my stay in a Persian Gulf State, but as I mentioned, that is an extremely superficial mean by which to gauge the Arab countries’ intentions toward Iranians. In fact, as you are surely aware, at the time these days that the extent of the relationship between Iran and Dubai is at an all time high, UAE is laying the groundwork for a military takeover of the three disputed islands from Iran. It just signed an agreement for a permanent French military base in the UAE (which really is designed to threaten Iran), and has been ratcheting up its efforts at the UN. So just because there are a lot of Kabaob houses in Dubai, does not mean that they have stopped conspiring about Iran!!! I also heard that Dubai is one of the home bases (England being the other) of the Arab separatists is Khoozestan.

Next, the article accuses that Iranians are essentially anti-Arab racists and that we should feel guilty and ashamed and go out and be the standard bearer of the Palestinian cause!!! Talking about nuts, this is probably one of the most absurd things that I have heard in my life. I don’t know if Mr. Nasri is mentally ill or was high when he wrote this piece, but it puts forth a theory the foundation of which is fundamentally flawed. My responses were designed to demonstrate that if there is racism, it is Arab racism and not Iranian racism. The article ignored entirely decades and centuries of Arab racism and animosity against Iranians and instead tries to shame us into thinking that we somehow have something to do with the Palestinian plight because of our racism. This is just bizarre and frankly insane!!!

As I mentioned, I don’t think that any human being should be subjected to unfair and inhumane treatment. However, the Palestinian problem is not our problem and has nothing to do with Iranian “racism”. It is an Arab issue, and just like Arabs came out of the woodwork to band together against Iran, they should band together now and help their ‘shaghigh” Palestinian brethren….or is it only Arab brothers with oil (i.e, Iraq) are “shaghighs”?!!!!! I personally, and I think the rest of Iranians should, refuse to support any Palestinian issue until and unless the Palestinian government (whoever and whatever that is) issues a formal apology to the Iranian nation for their support of Iraq, and their actual participation, in the Iran / Iraq war and to also declare their regret and remorse for the loss of Iranian lives during that conflict.

Next, your whole idea and implication that somehow Iranian nationalists are anti-Islam is also unfounded and reflects the extreme liberalism that is so unfortunately displayed whenever an Iranian nationalist dares to discuss any facts related to Islam. This notion that you and the likes of you are somehow trying to stop an extremist nationalist movement is pure fantasy (but if it makes you happy please go ahead and keep on visualizing!). The article tried to portray the Hossein’s story as somehow of a religious epic, and I had to show him that that was not the case. It was an inter-Arab political power struggle, and nothing else. As far as Hossein being a pedophile…well he was. He force raped Shahrbanoo at the age of ten. She was actually brought to the Ali household as war booty at the age of three when she was captured on the battlefield. She was the Persian king, Yazdgird’s daughter. She was kept at the household until she was ten and then given to Hossein as his “bride”, which obviously would not have been her choice if she was not stolen and kidnapped when she was three. This makes Hossein a pedophile and a rapist…of an Iranian child.

Next, the piece and your comments display an inherent lack of understanding of Arab culture. Arabs are essentially Seventh Century people. What to an average modern human appears to be compassion, friendship, conciliation and reproach, to an Arab is a sign of weakness that needs to be exploited to his / her advantage. Arabs also have a huge ego, which should not be fed! If we start to be the standard bearer of their causes, to them it will imply that we are somehow beneath them and / or that we are serving them.

Lastly, there is no need for us to get any more closer to Arabs. We should learn from Turkey and Pakistan. They are “Muslim” countries too, but you don’t see them putting their interests in jeopardy for an Arab cause. We should mind our own business and not intertwine our destiny with that of Arabs. 1400 years is enough!!!

Re-Eskandar Sadeghi

It is sad that even at the cost of aligning with the discredited IRI the bankrupt lefties still push their pseudo intellectual humanistic internationalism, it is just sad.

Dearest Anonymous Observer

I greatly enjoyed many of the points you made, but I don't think it's a matter of 'going down to their level' just because you've seen a great deal of evidence (which there undoubtedly is) of Arab hostility towards Iranians. I live in Dubai and as I'm sure you're aware Dubai has a huge Iranian constituency. Iranians are greatly respected if not revered here, from their ancient culture to their cuisine - the myriad of 'Noon o Kebab' restaurants packed with Emirati clientele is just one banal example of this. I guess my point is, and please don't get hostile I really do appreciate your post, that because some Arabs may loathe us, that doesn't mean that we have to loathe all Arabs in turn. You have lived in an Arab country as have I, and I have received a far warmer greeting here than I ever did in the UK where I also lived for a significant proportion of my life. Unwarranted generalizations never work out. There is another motif which interests me that I believe is present in your post. I have observed on many an occasion that Iranians who revile Islam are nonetheless obsessed with and fixated upon it. I don't mean necessarily you, my point is merely that to focus on the point that the Palestinians are only connected to 'us' by means of 'their' imposition of 'their' religion, and thus the fact that they are 'Arabs' is a little nuts. Again I know you didn’t say this, it just seems to me at least, tangentially relevant to what you said. Egypt, Syria and Iraq were all populated by diverse races and ethnicities before the coming of Islam (and actually still are, but not to the same extent) - furthermore Arab unity is a phantom and has remained elusive (you actually mention this with a great deal of panache in your comments on the inability of the GCC to properly function) because despite these nations supposedly having a common 'language' and 'culture' there remain massive differences between them. Anyway, my point is that the fact that we can't feel empathy for a people under a brutal military occupation while at the same time turn our attention to our own lamentations and disgust for our own regime is rather odd. Surely we can sympathise and support another people by virtue of their going through trials and tribulations of some sort that are worthy of our acknowledgement. To use a platitude we can relate to such struggles on a human level - supra-national constructs notwithstanding. Just like the idea that Iranian identity is somehow a uniform and unproblematic entity is a facile and naive assertion, and has lead to the exclusion of Azeris, Balochis, Arabs and Kurds from our own national imaginary (and which they understandably greatly resent) - and I guess partly responsible for many Iranians’ excessive ethnocentrism. I too am Iranian, I too am proud, but not to the point where I overlook our mistakes and shortcomings; some creeds of Iranian nationalism are just plain scary and a little too akin to other dangerous nationalisms which have left an indelible mark upon world history (Iranians are not an exception in this regard, but that's not our concern). Surely we can empathise with multiple struggles, with multiple peoples whether they be in Burma or Kandahar. Just because they are Muslim many Iranians’ moral compass seems to break down due to a reaction to our own theocratic monsters. Our demons are our demons and others shouldn't be blamed because our historical agency with hindsight proved to be misguided or lacking in critical insight. Or just because Islam seems to be equivalent to many middle class Iranians' Oedipus complex writ large it doesn't necessitate our reversion to medieval tribalisms when it come to unambiguous HUMANitarian disasters. Anyway, that's all I have to say for the moment. Thanks for the post. I enjoyed it very much. Eskandar

A few minor points

I greatly enjoyed many of the points you made, but I don't think it's a matter of 'going down to their level' just because you've seen a great deal of evidence (which there undoubtedly is) of Arab hostility towards Iranians. I live in Dubai and as I'm sure you're aware Dubai has a huge Iranian constituency. Iranians are greatly respected if not revered here, from their ancient culture to their cuisine - the myriad of 'Noon o Kebab' restaurants packed with Emirati clientele is just one banal example of this. I guess my point is and please don't get hostile I really do appreciate your post, that because some Arabs may loathe us, that doesn't mean that we have to loathe all Arabs in turn. You have lived in an Arab country as have I, and I have received a far warmer greeting here than I ever did in the UK where I also lived for a significant proportion of my life. There is another motif which interests me that I believe is present in your post. I have observed on many an occasion that Iranians who revile Islam are nonetheless obsessed with and fixated upon it. I don't mean necessarily you, my point is merely that to focus on the point that the Palestinians are only connected to 'us' by means of 'their' imposition of 'their' religion, and thus the fact that they are 'Arabs' is a little nuts. Again I know you didn’t say this, it just seems to me at least, tangentially relevant to what you said. Egypt, Syria and Iraq were all populated by diverse races and ethnicities before the coming of Islam (and actually still are, but not to the same extent) - furthermore Arab unity is a phantom and has remained elusive (you actually mention with a great deal of panache in your comments on the GCC) because despite these nations supposedly having a common 'language' and 'culture' there remain massive differences between them. Anyway, my point is that the fact that we can't feel empathy for a people under a brutal military occupation while at the same time turn our attention to our own lamentations and disgust for our own regime is rather odd. Surely we can sympathise and support another people by virtue of their going through trials and tribulations of some sort that are worthy of our acknowledgement. To use a platitude we can relate to such struggles on a human level - supra-national constructs notwithstanding. Just like the idea that Iranian identity is somehow a uniform and unproblematic entity is a facile and naive assertion, and lead to the exclusion of Azeris, Balochis, Arabs and Kurds from our own national imaginary (and which they understandably greatly resent) - and I guess partly responsible for many Iranian excessive ethnocentrism. I too am Iranian, I too am proud, but not to the point where I overlook our mistakes and shortcomings; some creeds of Iranian nationalism are just plain scary and a little too akin to other dangerous nationalisms which have left an indelible mark upon world history (Iranians are not an exception in this regard, but that‘s not our concern). Surely we can empathise with multiple struggles, with multiple peoples whether they be in Burma or Kandahar. Just because they are Muslim many Iranians’ moral compass seems to break down due to a reaction to our own theocratic monsters. Our demons are our demons and others shouldn't be blamed because our historical agency with hindsight proved to be misguided or lacking in critical insight. Anyway, that's all I had to say. Thanks for the post. I enjoyed it very much. Eskandar.

بسیار جالب است

بسیار جالب است کلید استارت همدردی بعضیهابا هموطنان خود کلمه
فلسطین است . مردمی سرخوش که سر در آخر خود دارند وبه مجض شنیدن کلامی در باب مظلومیت بی پایان مردم فلسطین بناگاه به یاده مصایب مردم مملکت خود می افتند وبا دوچند برابرنمایی مصائب خورد وخوراک وپوشاک واحیانا" مظلوم نمای تنبلها وبی استعدادهاومجانین و... سعی در خطف نظر ازقتل عام فلسطین وتمرکز بر دردهایی که در مرفهترین جوامع هم دیده می شود اقدام نماید انصافا" اقایی که غذای گرم نخوردن کودکی را هم سنک وبی شک درد ناک تر از قتل عامی بطول 80 سال می داند وبه این بهانه سخیف نه بر خواستگاه از کم فهمی که به احتمال قریب به یقین جانبداری نژادی بی غیرتی عملی خود را به دیگران نسبت می دهد ایا او هیچ می داند که در همین تهران بزرگ چه تعدادمردمی با وضعیت شبیه ان کودکان وجود دارد که برنج را دیده .گوشت رادیده و...دیده ودرآرزوی خوردن ان است.

قران عظیم خصلت اولیه کسانی را که از کمکها ویاریها جلو گیر می کنند لا یدع الیتیم ولا یحز طعام المسکین معرفی می کند .جناب اقای دلسوز برو این دام بر مرغ دگر نه می بینی که آمارت را از از1400 سال پیش داریم .

Nu-Liberal

I just think you are another Nu-liberal Iranian who's probably living in west. If the Palestinians did stop bombing Israeli civilians then they could have the same life style as their Israeli neighbours. I am very gald to read many Iranians here disagrreing with you. BET YOU HAVE NEVER WROTE A SINGLE ARTICLE ABOUT IRANIAN KIDS NOR A SINGLE ARTICLE ABOUT STONING WOMEN IN IRAN. Get a life! will ya?

عزيزم شمايي كه

عزيزم
شمايي كه از هر عرب عرب تر شده‌اي
در خبرهاي هفته پيش ( فكر كنم ايرنا شايدم ايسنا)آمده بود 46 كودك زير 6 سال خاش براي اولين بار طعم غذاي گرم را چشيدند.مي دانيد اين جمله يعني چه ؟ مردم ما مظلوم ترند يا فلسطيني هايي كه در جنگ ما با عراق طرف صدام را گرفتند و حتي تعدادي از آنها اسير يا كشته شدند؟فلسطيني هايي كه براي صدام عزا داري مي‌كنند و او را قهرمان مي‌دانند.وجدان و غيرت هم خوب چيزي است كه در وجود شما به اندازه يك جو وجود ندارد

Dametun garm

We are a nation that has defined the declaration of human rights by Cyrus the Great 2500 years ago. That's the connection between us and the Palestinians, who had joined the war against the Iranians with Saddam. But we are Pahlevan nation and humble to the fortunes that life brings to us as a gift. If we have a chance to stand, we will. Yaa hoo. Irani harf na-daa-reh. Be salamaty

RE: Ye Irani

Damet garm, khaili hal dadi. baahaatam aziz, bahaatam

History Teaches Us Many Things

I thought that I had all that I had to say on this subject, but unfortunately, I am so passionate about this issue that I thought some more clarification is in order. Before I start, I do want to mention that I am so glad too see so many people agree with my point of view on this subject.

First of all, I almost threw up when I saw your heart wrenching reference to "Yazid" and his "Karbala"...who funny and how sad!!!! If you knew anything about history, you would know that the whole conflict between that pedophile master of yours, Hossein, and Yazid was an intra-tribal Arab conflict, not unlike those that continue to this day. It was a power struggle. Hossein wanted to be king. All you have to do to see this conflict manifest itself in modern times is to simply look at the so called Gulf Cooperation Council (which incidentally purposely excluded Iran from membership even though Iran is on the Persian Gulf because.....(drum roll please) Iran was not an Arab country....but never mind that, we're the racists...not them!!!!). Since its creation in the 1980's almost all of its six members have either had armed conflicts between them or have sued each other in the world court (or both); examples: Saudi and Qatar, Qatar and Bahrain, Saudi and Oman, Kuwait and Saudi...and the list goes on.

The conflict between Yazid and Hossein was no different in its nature than what we see today. Other intra-tribal, inter-Arab power struggles were also going on at the same time. In fact, our friend Yazid bombarded your beloved house of worship, Kaaba with catapults and pretty much destroyed it during one of his other fights with another Arab tribe. Here's the link that mentions a summary of that event:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

And the Kaaba that you know (and presumably love!) today was rebuilt after that event. Therefore, the Hossein on Yazid fight was just another political power struggle that has nothing to do with being a scared religious battle....BUT leave to our desperate, Stockholm Syndrome suffering people to take that nonevent and turn it into a religious epic, thereby providing an excuse for the past 1400 years for us to worship every barefooted sand monkey that has come out of the Arabian Peninsula with an Arabic name and call him an "Imam" or "Imamzadeh".

If you want to cite an example of a siege, what don't you cite the siege of the fortress of Almot (the home of the great Iranian hero Hassan Sabbah) by Teimor? There are many other famous sieges in history that I cannot recall at this time...but your focusing on Hossein's story just shows your point of view and your point of reference.

Second, as I mentioned before, Palestinians and other Arab nations showed our people no mercy during the Iran-Iraq war. They cheered Saddam every step of the way and contributed troops, money, facilities and territory to the Iraqis so that they can win their Qadisiyeh against the Iranians. I had the misfortune to live in a Persian Gulf Arab state at that time and witnessed with my own eyes news footage of Palestinian fighters getting off planes in Baghdad airport with guns slung on their shoulders, holding a picture of Saddam in one hand and Kermit the Frog Arafat (I shouldn't really insult Kermit--Sorry) in the other, chanting pro-Arab slogans and declaring that they were going to fight alongside their Iraqi Brethren against the Iranians. I witnessed Iraqi fighter planes refueling in that country's airports on their way to bomb our towns. I witnessed news footage of King Hussein of Jordan at the front lines of the war personally firing a Howitzer toward Iran. I witnessed our PALESTINIAN neighbors cheering in the streets where Khramshahr (which they call Mohamareh because....(drum roll please) Khramshahr is a Persian word and they can't stand it...but never mind that, we are the racists!!!).

The problem with you and the likes of you is that you have no idea about what you're talking about. You know jack shit about history, you never lived in an Arab country, no don't know Arab culture and you have no idea about the extent of the deep Arab hatred toward anything and everything Persian. And know this my friend: regardless of how much you kiss their asses and suck up to them (as we have done for the past 1400 years) they will NEVER like or respect us because....(drum roll please) we are Iranians...but never mind that because we are the racists not them!!!!

None of what I have said, however, justifies the suffering of any human being. But it's not our job to be the standard bearer for the cause of a people who despise our very existence. As they use to call Iraq during its war with Iran, Palestinians are the "shaghigh" (brothers) of the rest of the Arabs...let them deal with the problem...just like they were so anxious to deal with Iran as a problem during its war with Iraq....

In sum, stop your Arab loving bleeding heart bullshit on this site...find an Arabic language site and post your nonsense there. I'm sure they will love you...so long as, of course, you don't mention that you are Iranian!!!!

Felestini ha cheh rabti beh

Felestini ha cheh rabti beh ma darand?

آقاي انصاري با تشكر

آقاي انصاري فكي مي كنم كه همه ما به اندازه كافي طي اين 30 ساله كه از انقلاب ميگذره از فلسطين شنيديم ؟؟!! فلسطين ده ها كشور عرب هم زبان و هم دين و هم كيش خودش رو داره !! آيا فكر كردين اون ها براي فلسطين چه كار كرده اند؟!
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به اندازه كافي از فلسطين شنيده ايم ..
لطفا از درد و رنج مردم ايران خودمون بگيد.. از كودكي كه مي گفت برنج رو اولين بار در غذاهاي نذري محرم ديده ! از پدري كه شرمنده بچه هاش بوده چون هرگز نتونسته ميوه به خونه ببره!! از اعدام و شكنجه دانشجوهاي بي گناه و هزران هزار مورد ديگه كه گفتنش تكرار مكرراته !
از فلسطين به اندازه كافي شنيديم....

Arabs against the Iranians

I agree with you in terms of the humanitarian aspects of your article, but I urge you to study the Middle East's history and you'll be surprise to see that it is not the Iranians who hated the Arabs but instead the Arabs who always hated and loath Iranians. Let's not forget the Iran-Iraq war. All those Arab nations (that you vehemently are trying to defend and build your case on) stood against us Iranians. Not only that, they even helped Saddam by all means to defeat Iran. At the end I will also encourage you to look no further than Iran's premises and you will see mounds of problems and poverties and so on. I hope the next time that your humanitarian feelings takes over, you have your Iranian compatriot in mind as well.
PEACE....

احیا کنندهء شرمساری بشر Humanity

It is wonderful and refreshing to see Mr. A. Nasiri point out and remind us who we are. Iranians have always defended the oppressed and have always disliked the oppressor. Who is being oppressed is irrelevant and who is oppressing is also irrelevant. It is the act of oppressing which is being condemned and when you are defending the oppressed, you are in fact defending Freedom. Who the Arabs are and how they feel about us and what they have done to us is a different issue. We should always defend Human Rights and condemn the oppressor. Many thanks to Mr. Nasiri for pointing this out, you are a true Iranian.

Gaza Palestanians

The Palestanians are a lazy good for nothing group of people and vested interests have kept them in the shape that they are, that well fed to make trouble.
Please do not equate the Palestanians with the Arab nation as a whole. The Palestanians even in the past have been trouble makers and in pre Islamic times they were Phonecians or some afflicted race mostly involved in sea pirating.
The Arabs gave the Iranian nation civilization. Before the Arabs Iran then Persia was a misfit and misruled nation. Even now here in Vancouver, Canada you will find all these people of the pre Islamic religion of Iran have the highest divorce rates, the women of these religion cheat on their husbands and vice versa. It is a shame to have these people around.
Islam saved Iran and today the Arab nation of Iran is re asserting itself amongst the nations of the world. As a nation whose inhabitants are all followers of the Koran, having arabic names, worshipping arabic prophets, faceing the Kibla in Saudi Arabia when praying, doing our Haj pilgrimage by going to Mecca in Arabia, doing our namaz in arabic, waiting for Mahdi our Iman to come, nearly all official holidays for observing the death/birthdays of our Arabic Imans, we are more Arabic than the Arabs themselves. So all Iranians should be proud of their Arabic background and Arabic blood. My sister's Arabic boyfreind is the most wonderful man I have ever come across. It shows how good and beautiful the Arabs are.
Dr Pourandokht Rostamian of Sharifabad
Vancouver
British Columbia
Canada

How do you define one as IRANIAN?

Ye Irani:
Ba morovvate;
Ba marame;
Javanmarde;
por fotovvate;
ba nezakate;
ergh melli dare;
moreede emam Ali va takhtie;
koorosh kabir eftekhreshe;
kaseye ajnabi nemilise;
daste ajnabi nemiboose;
Be harke zadeye irane va irano doost dare nokareshe;
Daste doshman shekane;
Namoose irani namoos khodeshe;
hoghooghe basharo negah midare;
Har ke iranie vo dar in dayere nist......nist!!!!

Who is running Iran? Not Iranian People

Palestinians,Ghadafi,British and arms and oil mafias

//67.192.94.187/main/2008/shah-ayatollah

You forgot to mention...

You forgot to mention that any time there is any sign of uprising in Iran, Palestinians set up road blocks in the streets of Iranian cities, pull out young Iranian people out of their cars, push them against walls, strip search them, and kick the crap out of them while brandishing their machine guns and assault rifles. And, WE are supposed to feel sorry for them?!
Iran is under foreign occupation.

Let's be humans first

Let's drop politics for a second and take a humanitarian crisis as it is.

How would you feel for example if an earthquake struck Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Gaza and plunged its people into complete misery? Would you still NOT care because they're Arabs and they supposedly hate us? Would you turn a blind eye and refrain from helping them because many of them supported Saddam 25 years ago? Would you NOT voice your concern and invite people to help just about the same thing happened in BAM?

See, political bias strips us out of our humanity. It makes us judge people based on the misconceptions we have of them. And truth is often very far from these misconceptions.

Despite the generalizations, a great number of turks are ashamed of the Armenian genocide and many of their journalists have lost their lives over it. Many Israelis are vigorously fighting against the injustices that happen in the occupied territories. And the ARAB people of Dujail in Iraq heavily paid the price of their opposition to war with Iran. So, to say that Arabs this, or Arabs that, is a gross misrepresentation and a great sign of ignorance.

The best way to see things is through a holistic approach. Humanity should be unconditional. Anything less than that is a deviation.

I don't see any difference

I don't see any difference in the tone of Mr Ali Nasri: peace needs support of victims, be it Jews in WWII or Palestinians under Israeli occupation. What's the problem? What did you expect from a peace activist?

JUST ONE

There is only ONE mash mandali "registered" and it's me !

The rest of you pretending to be "mash mandali" are CHICKENS ! just look at the avatar next to your comments.

I wish at the very least you were a "REGISTERED CHICKENS"!!!LOL

I met with A.NASRI and the rest of his friends, and that was my opinion/comment.

KUPPISH ????

get a grip

The ignorance on display here by some of the comments is astounding but pretty much par for the course for this site. Some, such as Anonymous Observer, are so ignorant of recent history that I have to conclude they were raised and "educated" here in the US. You can tell all the ignorant ones when they treat Arabs, all 250 million of them, as a monolith. You hate the Akhoonds, fine. Who doesn't? But don't let that blind you to facts of history and treat a very diverse group of people as one.
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Anonymous Observer, Ahmagh e bisavad, Syria and Libya, two Arab countries, were on Iran's side during Iran-Iraq war and helped us tremendously. The same Ghadhafi that you mention gave Iran free weapons when no one would sell them to us. When Saddam (your red, white and blue Nowkar) started firing SCUD missiles on Iranian cities, we had nothing of the sort to retaliate with. According to published accounts by Mohsen Rafighdoost, the first series of SCUD B missiles Iran acquired was from Libya, free of charge and on short notice on orders of Ghadhafi himself. Get you head out of your ass and read some history you ignorant fuck. People like you and this site portray Iranians as a bunch of ignorant, racist goons.

so am I

so am I.

I am sorry

I am sorry, I am stupid, please forgive me.