مسعود از امریکا

Civility is earned not demanded

As you can see, capt_ayhab, attempts to bully me by ganging or teaming-up do not work. I will throw punch for punch blow for blow! As of today IRANPARAST has dropped the ball and is all but feigning chakeram, nowkaram with me.

With bullies and gang mentalities such as displayed by IRANPARAST, Massoud and his Bahai friends, civility does not work, because they don't initiate it yet hypocritically demand it whenever they are put on the ropes! The only tactic which works with people such as these is standing ones ground, throwing back at them what they throw, and not caving in a milimetre to their general amoral bullying and skullduddgery.

BTW I might remind you again of the actual purpose of this very blog we're commenting on. If the shoe was on the other foot, would you exercise civility towards such people who abuse its very basis?

Dear NUR

With all due respect sir, you are way out of line with your ugly and hateful name calling. Please sir, some civility is in order.

Respectfully

-YT

IRAN PARAST

For the records everyone knows that I am a Muslim, and I do hold respect for every and all faiths and beliefs.

I am not here to judge anyone nor am I here to befriend anyone. I come here to learn various view points. Although I appreciate your interjection to my comment I must clarify that my comment was not meant to judge anyone nor it was meant to support anyone.

I merely am asking the ladies and the gentlemen of the Iranian.com to refrain from personal attacks, instead concentrate on getting their voice heard, in a civilized and logical manner. Mr. Masoud is entitled to hus opinion as is Mr. Nur, but not in this hateful way.

All due respect, I do not see any relevance between your quote from Bible and my comment in civility and humility !

Regards

-YT

Liar whose pants are on fire

SAGPARAST: 

"Please open your eyes, and see the truth. I am neither a Bahai,"

You are a LIAR. Straight up!

Worthless SAG(not IRAN)PARAST

The smell of yolk and sulphur is still coming from your general direction... 

Massoud posted his typical BS and is now lying with a straight face, as are you. The issue still stands and is outstanding that his first blog was put up after he claimed he'd already written the other one. Since neither Massoud or you are judges or lawyers, your transparent denials in the matter mean diddly squat! Nothing will erase that statement whatever song and dance he pulls - or you try to pull. If you want to resolve the matter inside a courtroom, I'm game; or if you personally want to come here to OZ, this Mirror (I don't use prophet) is quite happy, willing and capable of handing both of your sorry backsides back to you on a metal platter, whether in a courtroom or in other ways.

BTW you keep denying being a Bahai yet use their verbatim words, scripting and diction to the letter. I know a rat when I see one, and you are a Haifan Baha'i rat bar none! The only parastesh you do is to your mammonic false god in Haifa, Zionistan, i.e. the UHJ. 

You are no iranparast. You are just one in a long line of self-hating anti-Iranian parasites (SHAIP) I have had the displeasure of running into. So I hereby christen thee from here on out as SAGPARAST!

Iran Parast u r a Bahai.

You are a Bahai. Thank you.
Your hate towards NUR shows your faith in Baha.

Nur wants to sue the US Bahai's - LOL :O)))))

To sue "your enemies", you first have to disclose your OWN identity buddy! Then, a miracle of miracles will happen, and you'll see how everything you own disappears into thin air.

Go find a good shopping cart, that can hold a lot of empty pop cans ;-)

My Dear capt_ayhab

Please open your eyes, and see the truth. I am neither a Bahai, nor a Babi. I was raised as a Muslim, but I am not a practicing one.

I do not intend to insult you in any way, but your comment reminds me of a verse in the Bible that I read many years go: 'Innocent Sheep led to the Slaughter'! - Just be careful with your 'FRIEND' Mr. NUR!

I genuinely hope you understand what I am saying,

Regards

P.S. I am not a Christian either ......

so sad

Its so sad that you guys have resorted to character defamation and name calling to this extend. 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and there is no reason to gang up on a person who merely is expressing his views.

I have read many of Mr. NUR's blog, although I do not agree with some or most of them but I see no reason to attack a person like this.

Mr. Masoud, this blog is vicious and ugly. If you disagree with Mr. NURs ideas you can do so in a  logical and civilized manner and not so viciously and vindictively like this.

Respectfully

-YT

Iran Parast !

Is this your religion!! What you will get by putting Eggs on NUR's face. Will your god Baha be happy with you if you do this stupid act.
Awake stupids!
All this fight in the name of religion! Damn!

Dear NUR

'Do we have egg on our face, or what?' he, he .... I was trying to tell you that you are absolutely crazy, and you were trying to argue away your nonsense.

I'm glad that Massoud himself posted the comment again, with your b.s. on EEN BLOG ... Egg all over your face ... Please keep them coming ... You're a gift that keeps on giving! ... Yes, Mr. Prophet  ... :)

I know what you said, 'aziz

I have a full record of who said what exactly and where. It is obvious that you are either dissimulating now or you simply do not see your own Freudian slip regarding the actual chronology of the two blogs you made, and what you stated about that chronology. In any case, since it is obvious that it is I who have gotten into your head, you might wish to take a chill-pill or three and simply chill out and back-off without making it any worse for yourself, since these two blogs of yours are legally actionable defamation or libel.

Now I might live here Australia, but I still have solid connections in the United States where I used to live, and this site together with its logs and records and webmaster can be very much be subpoened in a lawsuit to 1. establish your identity and 2. to explain why it is allowing such personally defamatory content about an active poster. So let me give you a piece of brotherly advice: DO NOT get in the middle of my war with the Haifan Bahais or again make attempts to intercede in matters which do not concern you - or you will be sorry! M'kay?

Why do you want to hurt someone ?

Hey Masood Az Amrikah

Is this your BAHAI religion. You hurt someone by making his caricature just because he speaks truth and you people are unable to answer his questions.

What is the difference between YOU and COVENANT? You are doing the same as covenant is doing to you all.

Act with wisdom and don't make fool of yourselves.

NUR: This is the full comment:

من این بلاگ را دو روز پیش نوشتم، به امید اینکه دوستان بهایی را، از یک طرف، و اقای نور (NUR) را، از طرف دیگر، گرد هم اورده، تا مشکلاتشان را حل کنند. بنده نه بابی هستم، و نه بهایی. در ضمن، هیچگونه رابطه و دوستی با این دو گروه اصلا ندارم. بد نیست نگاهی به این بلاگ کرده، و نظرات همه را بخوانید، من جمله اقای نور - بعد،  برای خودتان قضاوت کنید - ممنون!

نت - این بلاگ مربوط میشود به بلاگ اول من که من راجع به این موضوع نوشتم. اگر روی ان کلیک کنید، می برتتان انجا!

Nur;

Thank you for directing me to the response you had written to me through this blog.  I am under an impression that not too long ago in one of you blogs; that I really do not remember which one it was and my computer skills are not that advanced to let me do a conclusive search and find the exact blog, you had briefly referred to Ebn'e Arabi (Ibn Arabi) in a mystical (Erfaan) context and admired him as one of those who has mastered the path (tareeghat).  I have, superficially, read about this man since I was in my early twenties on and off.  I, also, have heard that he was considered a a perfect master by people like Shams of Tabirz and even Mowlavee to such an extent that he was mostly regarded as fromulator of Islamic mysticism (Erfaan). Can you, please, share more in-depth information about his thoughts, life, and methods of vasl with me if you are aware of.  Considering that I am not deeply knowledgeable about Erfaan in practice, can you give some explanations about some technical points in his thoughts.  You may e-mail the information to me if you don't like to post it on this website.  My e-mail address is on Iranian.com.

I appreciate this and ,definitely, will let you know how I found or understood him.

Thanx

Khar khodeti

I know what he said, where he put it and what he linked to and where he linked it to. You can dance around this issue as much as you want and pretend whatever you wish however much you wish. What he said is what he said in black and white, and right here as the first comment of this blog. Previously you even denied that he said anything. Now your story is changing since I opened your palm, mocheto baaz kardam...

For the record, EEN blog came after OON blog. But OON BLOG appeared before EEN blog. And that is Massoud's own statement below.

Now if you're game, how about we take this matter in front of a courtroom and let a judge decide what Massoud said, where he said it, where he linked it to and when, and what the chronology of blogs and statements are? Believe it, you don't have a f-ing leg to stand on - and even you know  it!

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NUR

I honestly thought that you were smarter than this!

If you click on EEN BLOG, it will take you directly to the first blog, and not this one. What he is trying to say is, that he wrote the first blog two days ago in order to bring about Reconciliation between you and the Bahais. But because of your antics, he had to write this second blog to let everyone know what's going on.

By the way, it really didn't occur to you to ask yourself this question: why if he was referring to this blog, when he said EEN BLOG, then after clicking on EEN BLOG, it would take you to the first blog, and not here.

As I have said before, please keep writing these comments. The more you write these comments, the more people realize the fool that you are!

2Iranparast get new glasses and lay off whatever you are smoking

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That was Massoud's own comment, which is the first comment here. No equivocation by him. Two days before this blog is just before posting the earlier "olive branch" blog. This shows 1. premeditation in his attempts and 2. total and utter insincerity in the earlier peace making attempt. He had written this blog before posting the other. If you are stupid or inhabit a world of utter self-delusion and lies, don't assume others are there living with you. If such a statement was submitted to a courtroom worth its salt (which probably will at some point, since I have saved everything here) Massoud and your lame attempt to cover for him would be seen for what it is in two seconds flat and nailed.

Hallucinate on this...

Iranparast get new glasses and lay off whatever you are smoking

من این بلاگ را دو روز پیش نوشتم،

-   

Hallucinate on this...

Dear Mohsen

You don't have to worry for me. I have no specific religion and am not in the market for one. My religion is "Humanity" and I follow my heart. I am not attracted by Nur's philosophy, but I don't like people who make fun of him. Hope this is clear now.

Respectfully,

Mr. Nur

In all honesty, I truly believe today, that you are crazier than I thought you would be last night.

When I was reading your comments last night, I never thought that you have this Messianic Complex. I am glad that this person Religious Scholar shed light on this fact today.

Regarding your statement:

'I leave you this Easter Monday with these words ... especially addressed to Massoud from America whose attempts at peace-craft were completely insincere all along seeing how he confessed that he had written this blog before posting his silly olive-branch one'

I have read all of Massoud's comments, together with his blogs. There is absolutely no mention of the fact that this blog was written before the one that you were referring to, let alone confessing to that. Again, this is another one of your hallucinations, together with your Messianic Complex.

Last night, I said in my response to you, that this blog, together with the one previous to this, have opened up a window to your soul, showing the disturbed person that you are. As you can see, bit by bit, people are discovering that for themselves!

Please continue writing these comments here. As I have mentioned to you previously, 'a fool will be given enough rope to hang himself'!

Coming through...

Well, it is obvious you aren't much of a psychic since it's a wide open secret of some seven years now, and it is now the 7th Year of the Manifestation whereby according to the Persian Bayan the Great Reckoning will occur. And if indeed I AM THAT I say I AM, then the Lord really help you all... ;-)

BTW it also occurs to me that most of the herd here have such a tenuous and slim grasp on reality themselves that they automatically assume that everyone is likewise on the edge of falling into the abyss just as they are. You might want to think about that.

I leave you this Easter Monday with these words of Yeshua/Jesus from the Apocryphon of James, especially addressed to Massoud from America whose attempts at peace-craft were completely insincere all along seeing how he confessed that he had written this blog before posting his silly olive-branch one: 

"Come to hate hypocrisy and the evil thought; for it is the thought that gives birth to hypocrisy; but hypocrisy is far from truth."

PS - Accusations of insanity by the herd is also one of most oft repeated, and thus one of the oldest marks, of all True Prophets! FYI

My Dear Souri

Do you see now what's going on? If you haven't noticed it, read the comment by 'Religious Scholar', and then the response by 'faryarm'.

Whatever you do, just be careful with this charactacter 'NUR'. I am not too sure about all the details myself, but when I started reading the comments here, I never expected this.

Dear Religious Scholar; BINGO.

Dear Religious Scholar;

BINGO.

Dear alborz

I think that you are missing the whole point here. The more I read from this gentleman Nur, the more I realize that this is not a Babi-Bahai issue, but something bigger than that.

I am genuinely beginning to feel that Mr. Nur thinks that he is actually the legitimate Prophet that Bab was predicting. This is not a joke. He is challenging your prophet, Bahaullah, as being illegitimate, and that he, Mr. NUR, is the rightful and greater messenger that Bab was prophesying about.

I know that it all sounds crazy, but this is what's coming through!!!! God have mercy .......

از کلمات مکنونه حضرت بها‌الله

ای صاحبان هوش و گوش اوّل سروش دوست اينست 

(ای بلبل معنوی )  جز در گلبن معانی جای مگزين و ای هدهد سليمان عشق جز در سبای جانان وطن مگير و ای عنقای بقا جز در قاف وفامحلّ مپذير * اينست مکان تو اگر بلامکان بپر جان برپری و آهنگ مقام خود رايگان نمائی *

(ای پسر روح )  هر طيری را نظر بر آشيان است و هر بلبلی را مقصود جمال گل مگر طيور افئده عباد که بتراب فانی قانع شده از آشيان باقی دور مانده‌اندو بگِلهای بعد توجّه نموده از گلهای قرب محروم گشته‌اند * زهی حيرت و حسرت و افسوس و دريغ که بابريقی از امواج بحر رفيق اعلی گذشته‌اند و از افق ابهی دور مانده‌اند *

) ای دوست)  در روضه قلب جز گل عشق مکار و از ذيل بلبل حبّ و شوق دست مدار * مصاحبت ابرار را غنيمت دان و از مرافقت اشرار دست و دل هر دو بردار *

(ای پسر انصاف )  کدام عاشق كه جز در وطن معشوق محلّ گيرد و کدام طالب که بی مطلوب راحت جويد ؟ عاشق صادق را حيات در وصال است و موت در فراق * صدرشان از صبر خالی و قلوبشان از اصطبار مقدّس از صد هزار جان درگذرند و بکوی جانان شتابند *

(ای پسر خاک )  براستی ميگويم غافلترين عباد کسی است که در قول مجادله نمايد و بر برادر خود تفوّق جويد * بگو ای برادران باعمال خود را بيارائيد نه باقوال *

//reference.bahai.org/fa/t/b/

البرز

To Souri

"I believe in God and his power and goodness for all human being."

Souri khanoum, I apprciate your kind words. 

Dear friends

Please do stop this non sense and useless conversation. I'm so sorry to see you are still there trying to make a point over someone's personality or mental health. Someone that you don't even know. I would say, your behavior on this thread look more like gossip than a real healthy debate.

Mr Nur, is not a stupid person. Through his various articles that I read this couple of days, I came across a person who is indeed  very much informed and educated. He has lots of  good point to make. Only his approach is getting on his way of bringing his ideas to those point.

We are all human. We are emotional, we are sensitive, we get hurt. Sometimes the wounds are so deep that we can't overcome them fast and easily. Hope this never happened to none of you, but I, myself have been trough that and I know how it feels, especially when we are in a state of denial about being really hurt.

But I got over that wound, slowly but thorouly. I believe in God and his power and goodness for all human being. I'm convinced that when there is wound, there is heal, too. It takes time and effort to reach out to his guidance and the light of serenity and peace.

Each person is unique. Our wounds and our approach to healing are also different. We have to give ourselves and others, the chance to find our way  through the trials and experiences.

Nobody is here to judge nobody. I know I have been harsh to Mr Nur too and I apology for that. At first, I didn't think that may be hurtful for him, and I was joking about his approach, like I do joke with my brothers and sister or friends, calling them sometime, Daee jan Napoleon or Samad ....etc. But the more he opened himself to us, the more I  got empathy for him.

True, we can never get heal and serenity by the way of hate and war.

This is were, I believe, Mr Nur will rethink about his approach and find a way to better communicate with others. As I said before, I have been there and know, how it's hard to bear too much hurt and sometimes we get lost in our deep emotions.

All in all, I wish, we get over this matter now and will be more tolerant toward each other, restraining from profanity, accusation and also, also gossip!!

Happy Easter to all.

awesome

not only NUR tells the truth (in his mind)but to prove it he claims on his website that he is a prophet so be careful, he is here to save all of you from your dark souls and expose all the conspiracy theories of the political world to you so as he said kiss his back side and let him say and verbally abuse you and what ever sect or cult he doesn't like cause after all prophets just do behave that way.any one remember David Koresh ?

دوستان عزیز

خیلی ممنون برای نظراتتون اینجا - من امیدوارم که پیشنهاد های شما، برای همه، بخصوص برای اقای نور، اثری مثبت داشته باشند ... روز رستاخیز حضرت عسی مسیح را به تمام مسیحیان دنیا، بخصوص به برادران وخواهران ارمنی و اسوری ایرانیمان را، صمیمانه تبریک می گوییم - موفق باشید!