"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth"

I have

NOT decided to leave it alone. So discussion or Not, i need to know:)

there. Sounds better?:)

If I answer that...

it may end up in a 'discussion' again. Now you KNOW that's not what you want. So leave it alone :P

mofo?

what the heck is a "mofo" soldier?:))

siding with iran

easy question.

No

You didn't, at least not with regard to me. I'm one tired of battling mofo soldier!

Thank god

Cease Fire!

Finally. There is hope for us after all... (or did i speak too soon?:)

Kharmagas

I don't get this DJN. Never did. I know it was hugely popular but I just never saw the allure of it. So I'll skip it but thanks anyway.

KouroshS

Thanks! I really didn't feel like continuing either. So that works fine for me.

disciplining the rogue posters!

HollyUSA, since your blog has gotten very quiet I thought of dedicating this Dai JAn Napelon episide to you:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=g502yfkhAWE&feature...

a video to watch and ponder on

//edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/10...

IRANdokht

HollyUSA

Ohhh please. Not one of those big, long medly of replies. Please NOOOOOOOOOO:((( I think we have done our Shekve o Gelayeh Right here and Let's just relax and get ready for other blogs.

Craig

Dude. You should have at least gone to have a drink or two:) They could be saying the meanest things to you here, but i am sure they won't bite.

There are not ANY dirty laundry to begin with :)

ID

But the only American I know turned my invitation down :(

You might have better luck if you don't shoot their dog before you ask them out to lunch. Americans like dogs!

Kharmagas jan

That was the Halloween special!

Happy coding my friend ;-)

IRANdokht

ID, that was extraordinary!

" PS:  BOO!"

Can't stop laughing, I thought I (the bad esfoni) was smart. That was extraordinary! Now I can go back to my coding with a charged mind.

#best

XPC

I tried...  I really did!

But the only American I know turned my invitation down :(

IRANdokht

ID

I find your naïveté absolutely adorable.

Thanks! That's another well known "American" trait! If you stay here long enough you can pick that up too! But you have to actually hang out with Americans once in a while for the magic to happen.

LOL

XPC

Despite how I disagree with you on... well, on just about everything and on every subject, I find your naïveté absolutely adorable.

Thanks for the smile.   :o)

IRANdokht

PS:  BOO!

KouroshS

 I can not REALLY (i mean come on) be the judge of how nice they are or not. All i see is their Typped up words on IC.

That's all I see as well. But IRANdokht offerred to meet with me to discuss our differences in person a few montsh ago, which made me very suspicious and which I declined. Ayhab just offerred to discuss things in a "different forum" (rather than here on IC) and that looks like a red flag to me, after reading about how they've assassinated other people's characters after taking things to a more personal level. I'm just trying to issue a friendly warning here. I agree with you that it's best to keep your distance and keep things entirely impersonal in online forums, unless you really trust somebody a lot. They can't expose your dirty laundry if they don't have access to it, right? :)

KouroshS

No I don't bail my friend. And I actively do what I can to behave  responsibly, I assure you. I'm sure that at times I will fall short of any number of people's expectations. That I think is a given for all of mankind.

I do however have a very busy day and if you allow me, I will respond to you at the end of the day.

Thanks.

Ah! elegance as usual

Avoidiing to stoop to someone's level.

to whom that may have concerned!

KouroshS

Kourosh says: " I have respect for Kharmagas too."

.. same here, so I dedicate this to you and your cult:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyA9sPJIFhA

EPC

I appreciate the warning But i really do not take anything that i see or read in this site super-seriously. I am a centrist or center-of-the-gravity kinda guy, i don't care what they tell you about me.

If anyone wants to go behind my back and do the nastiest of things to me and dishing out all forms of dirts that do not really exist one me Let them indulge themselves, by all means... have at it:)

 I can not REALLY (i mean come on) be the judge of how nice they are or not. All i see is their Typped up words on IC. And on that level, I respect them.

thanks again:)

KouroshS

May I have a suggestion? Lets resolve this issue between you two by debating each other in a different format.

Despite the run-ins I've had with you in the past, I feel it necessary to warn you not to take Ayhab up on this. I don't know what's going on because I've never exhcanged emails with any of this crowd, but I've seen bits and pieces of a lot of real horror stories about how that tends to end. These are not nice people, and they are apparrently expert at destroying people behind their backs.

Dorood bar Capitain

Brilliance is all yours my friend.

I have respect for you and all those who oppose you in one form or another. I have respect for Kharmagas too, and i will have more if he does not fly off the handle every now and then. All debates, i think could be a source of Learning something new and i agree with you on that. As i mentioned before I would love for people to understand one's position and leave it at that and refrain from elaborating on it and making all sorts of unfair accusations. If i see someone doing that, i will return the respect, Otherwise... It will be on:)

Ayhab

Firstly I assure you the feeling of dislike is mutual.

That was obvious when you repeatedly made racist comments about my people and about me in particular, and kept up with that even after I pointed out to you that you were being racist. As I recall, it was your "opinion" that you were saying racist things to be funny and not to be hurtful and that it was therefore OK. Somehow. As if other racists don't think they are being funny when they belittle people of other ethnicities or nationalities?

Secondly I never attacked you...

Is that also supposed to be a joke? Or do you honestly not remember how you behave when you lose your temper? Do you have a long history of losing your temper and lashing out at people? I can't think of any other way you could have developed such a defense mechanism.

...and I do not have any, as you so
childishly put, gang members.

And yet, ID came to your defense quite vigorously... before you even read the comment I directed to you. Are you denying that she's a friend of yours? That the two of you are part of a click that always seems to stick together and gang up on other people on this website? Because, I assure you I'm not teh first person who noticed it. In fact, I may be the last person who noticed it, as I'm not very sharp when it comes to Iranian cultural norms. In American culture, people who engaged in as much backstabbing and malicious gossip as what seems to be the norm with Iranians on this website would be friendless pretty fast. That's obviosuly not the case in Iranian society.

People in this thread are masters of
their own opinions and ideologies, and NONE of these ladies or
gentlemen who HAPPEN to agree with me on this issue  need me to come to
their rescue or support.

Right. That's your new policy. I've noticed that. They gangland style bullying has been toned down quite a bit the last few months. Used to be there'd be 5 or 6 of you show up within an hour of eachother. That was pretty bad! Especially when combined with hamhanded censorship of the opposition.

They are quite capable of standing their own
ground and I feel blessed that I am in same company with them.

You admitto being in the gang, in the same comment you deny it? That must have beena  slip :p

Thirdly, It is obvious that the [WE] crowd were the ones who
attacked me[i.e. see Mr. Kashani's remarks about me], and not the other
way arround. 

Those are your past victims... you don't recognize them? Really? :o

So dude, I say this to you as well as clearly and frankly as I
could.  You sir need to  refrain from accusing people of having done
something under false pretense. Last time I checked, these types of
character defamation and slanderings   are  against the law, and carry
criminal and civil penalties.

So now you are threatening to sue me? lol.

Mr. KouroshS

Duly noted my friend and cheers.

-YT 

My Final words: Mr.'s KouroshS, Kharmagas

Mr.'s KouroshS, Kharmagas

It is disheartening to see two brilliant and well versed gentleman like you two to be constantly at each others throat. 

May I have a suggestion? Lets resolve this issue between you two by debating each other in a different format. In a way that we can read your comments and threads and LEARN something. After all that is why we are here for aren't we?

If you two gentleman, whom I respect greatly, feel that I am speaking out of line and am trying to give you guys advise, just tell me and I will shut up.

Respectfully

-YT 

YT

I am in no position to tell you your buisness and how to go about it, but issuing a warning to someone as in "this is your last notice" is a bit too much, especially on this site where we know we have a long history of Fosh and foshkari toward each other, at one point or another.

Distortion of the truth is the way many people play the game on this site capitain jan. Purely fabricating and twisting and spinning one another's point has also been a tool of choice in various discussion settings on this very site.  Not to break the wall of respect between you and me, But do you think you or even I, or anyone of us here is less guilty of doing the same thing, every now and then?

Bottomline: I don't like it when i see people issuing warnings for each other. That simply means that ihave that same right as well. \

Would you want to see this site turning into a "wild wild west"? (of course i know JJ will kick plenty butts before that happens)

Craig, Mr. KouroshS

Craig

Firstly I assure you the feeling of dislike is mutual.

Secondly I never attacked you, and I do not have any, as you so childishly put, gang members. People in this thread are masters of their own opinions and ideologies, and NONE of these ladies or gentlemen who HAPPEN to agree with me on this issue  need me to come to their rescue or support. They are quite capable of standing their own ground and I feel blessed that I am in same company with them.

Thirdly, It is obvious that the [WE] crowd were the ones who attacked me[i.e. see Mr. Kashani's remarks about me], and not the other way arround. 

So dude, I say this to you as well as clearly and frankly as I could.  You sir need to  refrain from accusing people of having done something under false pretense. Last time I checked, these types of character defamation and slanderings   are  against the law, and carry criminal and civil penalties.

Mr. KouroshS,

You are well aware of the fact that even though I do not agree with your stances on issues, I have always respected you because it has always been mutual. I do not see myself as having done anything wrong since Mr. Kashani has viciously attacked my person in three occasions on this very same thread, by calling me IR thug and apologist. What he has done is pure fabrication and distortion of truth about me. 

Sorry my good man but I shall not sit silent allowing character like Mr. Kashani slander my name and spread lies about my person. Would you?

Best regards

-YT 

Ayhab

Since you gentleman are in process checking the alliances of people who live in US...

Checking your allegiance is not necessary. You told us that 100% of your allegiance is to Iran. How much is leftover for America? lol.

and are citizens...

You wouldn't be a citizen if you had said the same thing in your citizenship interview that you said here on this website. But instead of telling them the truth at your naturalization hearing, you foreswore allegiancce to any foreign power and swore loyalty to America. Nobody made you do that, Ayhab. And nobody made you admit to becoming a ctitizen under false pretenses, on this website.

Personally, I think I was pretty nice about it when I questioned your motivations. I'm feeling a lot less nice after seeing how you and your gang reacted. I have to assume that ID and anyone else who defended you with such enthusiasm are doing so because they are also disloyal to the US and don't want to feel quilty about it, eh?

Maybe honesty isn't always the best policy. I don't like you much anyway, but I liked you better yesterday before I read this thread.