Curious Joe

Persian westender and Arabic avatar + language

"Let Salman’s avatar and language used in his comments,
represent what he believes. There is nothing wrong with that too. There is a beauty in diversity. Persian westender

 Dear Persian Westender:

I wrote the below on the other site, but I see it beneficial to get repeated as follow. No offense to any specific individual. My apology.

It was Nationalism who saved Iran from the hands of arabs in early 80's. Our trained homafars and shahanshi army broke their jaws in a heat beat. The legacy of shah and his nationalism notion among army persoanels saved Iran.  The slogan :                                    چو ایران نباشد تن من مباد         

 No Arabic Avatar on Iran.com. no Arabic words here. Some people who pose as Iranian trying to promote arab culture and arab language here. It must be stopped. These are the same people who claimed ownership of our oil field not long ago. They were trying to call it "Moamareh". It is Khozestan and it will always remain khozestan. They were trying to call Ahvaz, Al-Ahvaz. Now they're looking at our Persian Gulf. This is big a threat to our "national interest".

They could be Iraqis, Palestinians, Lebananese. who knows?

 But one thing for sure they have to stop using our site to promote their agenda. Enough is enough.

Thanks

Siavash

Curious Joe and Conrad Lawrance

Conrad lawrence Psychologist did in-depth research about fishes in coral reef in Florida shores back in 70's. His observation was remarkable. He found out that fishes who look similar express hostility toward the same color fishes. Fishes who are less similar has nothing to do with those group of fishes. This concept also applies to human society. In U.S also black people mostly kills black people. Some say because of more interaction among those people, but truth is something else. For example, thieves always goes next door house than going very far whom he is not familiar.  

Resemblance between the Ayatollahs and the Norwegian psycho

Ladies and gentlemen:

Thank you for participating in this blog.  The essence of this blog was this: 

The IRI, Ayattolahs, Ahmadi-Nejad (believing in a ghost arriving “soon” as the 12th Imam to save the world), and their cohorts have been killing Persians for the past 32 years in the Evin Prison (and other hidden dungeons in Iran) – doing exactly what the 32 year old Norwegian Psycho did in Oslo to 90 of his own country men last week.

 Why didn’t that bastard psycho kill 90 Muslims, wearing a hejab or looking like an angry/jealous bearded-suicide-bomber, freely walking in the streets of Oslo?

The truth is this. That 32 year old bastard Norwegian psycho, who hated Muslims so much, killed 90 of his own country men/women and children – all Norwegians -- as opposed to killing 90 Muslims who proudly wear chador/hejab in the streets of Oslo. 

 Doesn’t that give you a resemblance of the Ayatollahs who imprison/kill their own people (Persians) in the Evin Prison (and in many other hidden dungeons), versus killing the “outsiders”/enemies of Iran?  Can you see the parallel between the Ayatollah’s way versus the Bastard/Norwegian psycho?

Maryam

The only extreme ideology which is not dangerous is pacifism.

When the core belief is promoting peace; the more radical it gets, the least harm will result. You can read about it in a good blog by Ari:

//iranian.com/main/blog/ari-siletz/defintion-religion-peace-most-radical-believers-do-least-harm

Extereme Idealogy is always Dengerous!

We have seen it all around us!  Extereme fanatic mosles (Talaban, IRR/IRR), extereme right wing (Tea Party), Extereme librals (?)

Beauty in diversity!

I like that but it does not fit the SF's intention.  Remember who is Salman Farsi and what he did to his country & countrymen. 

Siavash300

There is nothing wrong with suggesting others to use Persian  avatars and language in this site. Absolutely not, especially if it is a polite suggestion and it is not directed to only one particular person representing a particular belief (Salman Farsi); but take note that in the same thread (and in  the whole site) there are many others who use English or other languages or  symbols in their avatars and their communications.

Let Salman’s avatar and language used in his comments,
represent what he believes. There is nothing wrong with that too. There is a beauty in diversity. 

Persian westender possible misuderstanding.

"whatever Arabs have done  to us or have not, does not mean that no one is allowed to use the part of  their language" Pesian westender

Of course, no one deny that, but we are trying to promote Persian language and Persian culture as much as we can on this site. I am just asking politely NOT to use arabic words as much as possible and promote our beautiful culture. What is wrong with that? Saying Ba Doorood instead of Asalam-0-alakom. Just trying to promote our language. Using Persian Avatar, not Arabic Avatar. For example, we have so many beautiful Persian Avatars such as perspolis, etc.. We can use those avatars instead of promoting arab avatars here. That's all. I don't think I am saying anything irrational.  

Brother/Sister Persian Westender

You are a voice of reason

Thank you

 For an Islamic democracy

Brother AO

"The same goes for this guy"!

You either haven't read his manifesto or you are just as mixed up as sis vild.

والله اعلم

 For an Islamic democracy

Sister vildemose

Sorry sis but you are just as mixed up as ABB.

 For an Islamic democracy

Wrong on both accounts brother Ghasem

Nationalism is a political ideology whereas patriotism is a dangerous emotional state nothing to do with politics.

Nationalism is the worst enemy of peace (George Orwell).

Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel (Samuel Johnson)

When do you learn something brother Ghasem?

 For an Islamic democracy

Nationalism

"BTW, nationalism is a love to mother land."

No it's not. Nationalism is hatred for people other than one's own. Patriotism is love for the motherland.

It looks and unfortunately feels like Iranians are more nationalist than patriotic. 

Good news---he'll be out in 21 years!

That's the maxium punishment for any crime in Norway.  He's young too, and will be in his early 50's when he's out of the slammer.  And last I checked, Norwegians did not need a visa to enter the U.S.  Sooooo...get ready boys and girls...he's gonna come for you.....

On a more serious note, the guy is a terrorist, and a mass murderer.   Killing 92 of your own citizens really does not give any credibility to whatever message you want to spread.  Timothy McVeigh also had some legitimate argument against the size and intrusiveness of the federal government.  But instead of arguing and presenting those points, he comitted a terrorist act, and alienated any non mentally ill person who might have listened to him.  The same goes for this guy.  

This might be off the topic of the blog,

...and I don’t want  to get into this discussion of Arabs vs. Persians; but whatever Arabs have done  to us or have not, does not mean that no one is allowed to use the part of  their language that has been absorbed to ours over the centuries. Like it or  not, if you go to a typical Iranian household and use the word “assalam-o-aleik” it would be more understandable than any English word or even ancient Persian word of the similar nature. If  you want to change that, you cannot tell people to silence.

As for the analogy of be farma , beshin, .....; since when
assalom-o aleik is impolite? It’s just one version of greeting and for the
better or worse is more popular that the others in Iran. You cannot change the  fact; although you may not like it. Comparing it to 'betamarg' I believe is irrelevant.

Thanks    

Good night Rea. You're

Good night Rea. You're welcome.

Persian westender and spirit of Persianism

"80 percent of the materials are in English!" Persian westender

Yes, it is in English, but Brits never tried to impose their view of life to Iranians. The arabs did. They did it over 1400 years and seems they are continuing doing that. Sekeneh Ashtaiani has been scheduled to be stoned by law of Arabs. Her stonning is vivid example of arab view of life which was imposed to Iranians especially during last 32 years. Has it ever Brits, that we are using their language on this site, tried to impose their laws to Iranians.? of course NOT. Do you see the differences my friend?

"Salman can use any words that is comprehensible for Iranians" Persian westender

yes, anybody can use any language to convey their messages. Be farma, ben-e-shin and betamarg, they all have the same meaning and anybody can use any language, no doubt about it, but we recommand Be Farma because it is more polite and deplomatic. plus we have beautiful word which is BA DOOROOD instead of Salam-o-alakom which is compleletly arabic. Arab culture and their religion devastated and destroyed our country for last 32 years. Enough is enough.

BTW, nationalism is a love to mother land. 
No nation can survive if nationalism is taken away from that nation. Nationalism has nothing to do with racism. Racism breed on history of slaverly.  Iran is the only country with no history of slaverly. Persians are not racist by definition because of the fact that they never had history of slaverly. That is beauty of Iran history. Unlike Europeans with long history of slaverly with Africans, Persians were way far from that concept. Nationalism is a key for survival, especially when the country is under cultural attack of foreign entity.

Payendeh our Aryan Land Iran.

vildemose

Just to say thank you for providing excellent links. Powerful tool for fighting ignorants.

Late here, nite everybody. 

"La Reine Margot", soundtrack. Goran Bregović, born in Sarajevo, Croatian father, Serbian mother, Muslim wife, Jewish singer.  Enjoy ! ;o)

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Not surprising

Sun Jul 24, 2011 at 05:25 AM PDT

//www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/24/998052/-UPDATED:-Right-Wing-DEFENDS-Anders-Behring-Breivik?via=siderec

Siavash300

This is Iranian.com and yet 80 percent of the materials are in English! Have you ever objected that?

Salman can use any words that is comprehensible for Iranians; wether it is Arabic or Persian. If we can not tolerate one person with different viewpoints out of many, this world is not our place.

It is irony that the subject of this blog is the horrible consequences of racism, and still people fall for it! 

BY the way ......

On a more serious note .....

The blogger's last statement is completely not true ... IRI does not hate christians or jews etc..... They even have rep in the Iranian congress .. they have their temples and churches in Iran and living happily ever after .....  

IRI just hate any one who becomes politically active and against them regardless of one's religion or school of thoughts and that includes many muslims who are currently in jail as political prisoners .....

Please get your facts straight  

Finally

A good looking terrorist ... LOL 

Zionism behind Norway mass murder!

      //www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=230762

      "So let us fight together with Israel, with our zionist brothers"

Brother Salman this is Iran.com, NOT arab.com

Please change your avatar and use persian words rahter than Arabic words (such as Salam-o alakom) for the same reason that NO Persian can go to arab site and write in Farsi or promote  Persian culture. That is just common sense brother.

Thanks,

Siavash

Payandeh our Aryan Land IRAN

We cannot allow ourselves to

We cannot allow ourselves to fall into the habit of claiming this person was merely mentally ill. The mass murder of liberals/leftists/communists is the logical outcome of right-wing religiosity/philosophy. Genocide is a feature, not a bug, in the behavior patterns of all right-wing idealogues such as Khomeini, Khamei (VF), Basiji, Hojatii, Shariati, Brevik, teabagger loonies, Mcveigh, etc.

Brevik is much too sophisticated to be called lunatic

We are dealing with a rapidly emerging genre of radical right-wingers in Europe who try to solve them problem at its roots, meaning their cultural/political identity, by igniting (in their misguided minds) a revolution rather than by cutting a few branches like killing a Muslim neighbourhood.

Just read Brevik's manifesto and you know what I mean.

 For an Islamic democracy

A few questions comes to mind

Could it happen in England

or other countries in Europe?

What happens if there is a war between Iran and United States?

How would Iranians in United States be effected?

Comrade

European X-n extremists are minority of the minority. They'll never ever get the upper hand.

Secularism is, and will remain, the very heart of Europe. 

One more thing

I rather wait to see what he has to say tomorrow in the
court to clarify the reason behind mass killing of Norwegians (instead of Muslims and immigrants). But I guess he directed his anger toward the political system  (Labour Party) supporting the multiculturalism and socialism, no matter that they are  from the same nationality. Perhaps his anger and hate toward the opponent  ideology, exceeded the racial supremacy that believes in.

The whole problem with the

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -Bertrand Russell