مسعود از امریکا

The sickness is in your own soul, brother. Believe it!

Look within before judging without knowing anything. Maybe this is God's message to you all here through me this Easter since obviously I have become a Mirror reflecting back the ugliness of yourselves back to you. Also you do not speak for anyone here other than yourself personally, nor has a herd consensus ever been the gauge of anything remotely related to truth. Remember that!

Happy Easter to you too, and Ya Haqq!

Wahid (One) Azal (Pre-Eternal), Haqiqqat-Parast!

To: NUR

It's most unfortunate, that despite urging by all the people involved here, you are declining to proceed in a civil, and mature way.

As for me, as we say in Iranian, my hopes are that God would cure you of all your ills. You are most certainly a sick man, whether you would want to admit it or not.

If there is one thing that this exchange has produced, then that would be this: a clear window in to your soul has been opened up, and people are now fully aware of how you think, and also operate. Believe it or not, it's all there for everyone to see.

Finally, it may seem odd to you, but I would like to wish you a Happy Easter. You may not know it, but even someone like you, is part of God's glorious creation!!

I am NOT Covenant, etc., so kiss it!

Note that, and note it well...

Now if the people here, esp. the Baha'is and their friends on the back-roll, are offended by what I say, tough sh*&! The Baha'is (particularly the Haifans) have offended and abused several dozen communities of people going on well over a century plus and it is high time for these people to be called out on it to give an accounting of their longstanding abuses and lies. There is no resolution to such outstanding grievances by kicking them under the carpet or calling people to hold hands and proverbially sing "koombaya," or to label people with smeer when they refuse to play ball!

Obviously my tactics work given the wide reaction and given the wedge that has now been created of this contrived and dishonest consensus propaganda these people are ramming down people's throat without challenge. I am here challenging it and I am also challenging the credibility, integrity and honesty of those people who wish to dilute or misdirect this issue into ad hominems.

That said, those who pronounce judgement or make diagnosis on the mental health of others without being remotely qualified, are obviously in need of serious counselling themselves. Also note that totalitarian systems and dictatorships - such as the old Soviet Union - regularly employ the smeer tactic of calling their detractors mentally unstable and crazy when they can't silence them. Massoud's defamatory post proves this to be the case and the transparent fascistic mind behind it! So, as far as I am concerned, without any ta'arof, he can come and kiss my very blunt, frank and no-nonsense backside...

Covenant and Covenant-breaker

Covenant (Pers., Arab. `ahd, mítháq) The spiritual contract binding God and humanity. The Bahá'í Faith recognizes two covenants: first, the greater covenant, between God, represented by the Manifestation of God (q.v.), on the one hand, and humanity on the other, in which God promises to continue to send guidance to humankind, while humanity, on its part, promises to obey and follow these teachings when they come. Part of this greater covenant is the obligation which each Manifestation of God places upon his followers to accept the next Manifestation. Second, the lesser covenant, which obliges individual Bahá'ís to accept the leadership of Bahá'u'lláh's appointed successors and the administrative institutions of the Faith. Firmness in the covenant is one of the chief Bahá'í religious virtues and includes not just acceptance of the legitimacy of the Bahá'í institution but much more general attitudes of loyalty and whole-hearted commitment to the Bahá'í Faith and Bahá'í community. Challenging the authority of the center of the Bahá'í Faith is the most serious spiritual offence that a Bahá'í can commit. It called Covenant-Breaking and is considered to be a spiritual disease and is punished by expulsion from the community.

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You r not a tru baha'i

With this action of yours, you have proven that you r not a real baha'i. What is the difference between U and COVENANT ?

IRAN PARAST

I am in general agreement with your analysis, and the point of view you are presenting here. I just hope that NUR (Covenant, etc.) is reading this stuff, and that he would take the necessary actions to correct the situation.

I also want to thank Massoud for his efforts in this direction. Any effort in the direction of Peace and Reconciliation, is not a wasted effort.

Happy Easter everybody!

Massoud Khan

I am neither a Bahai, nor do I care about all these schisms that exist between the Bahais and the Babis. Nevertheless, it does bother me that the Bahais are being subjected to such abuse.

Let me be clear on this: I believe that the Bahais on this site, for too long, have been in a process of propaganda, trying to tell everyone how great their religion is. No one ever questioned them, because many of us didn't know much about the Bahai Faith. Now, this fellow 'NUR' has come along, and is showing us a side of the Bahai Faith that we never knew before. Nevertheless, The End Does Not Justify The Means.

To be honest with you, what really ticked me off was his personal attacks on you. I mean, what kind of a crazy thing is that ?! Others have reflected on this, but to me, it was over-the-top!!

In any event, as others have indicated, it was good to see his modus-oprandi exposed. If he is an issue with the Bahais, then he should come out, and act in a civilized manner. Engage the Bahais properly, and try to have a civil discourse with them.

If there is one thing that is quite clear in this whole affair, then that would be: NUR's technic, and his tactics, have turned many people off. He may have something legitimate to say, but his approach has turned people against him.

If he is a wise man, he would take note of that. It's really that simple!!

Massoud Jaan

Thank you for exposing this person. I saw in the other blog that you referred us to, that he was accusing you of being a Bahai, or a Bahai sympathizer!! This is your thank you from him for trying to diffuse the situation. Clinically speaking, this is a classic case of someone with a Paranoid-Schizophrenic personality: He does not trust anyone, even someone who is trying to help him.

I want to thank you for trying to bring reconciliation. It didn't work, but it was worth trying. Remember, with these kind of people, 'No good deed goes unpunished' - as you can see from their behavior here.

Peace be with you - Have a blessed Easter!

Masoud khan

Please don't add fuel to the fire.

By writing these blogs, you're giving him a forum to spread hate and propaganda even more.

This person has offended many of our friends including Jahanshah himself without being censored. All the while he keeps ending his venomous comments with "[Comment and time of posting recorded in the event of deletion by the censor of this site]".He is obviously blinded by hate and none of these blogs and comments will make a dent! 

So please do not feed the rage and let him be. I am also asking all our friends to just let it go.

IRANdokht

I am sorry if my comment may come across as demanding or preaching. I just can't stay quiet about what I see happening over and over again. It seems everyone is repeating the same actions and expecting a different outcome.

NUR I agree with you that Bahai is a cult. BUt I still think

You might be unstable. Maybe Bahai did this to you. Maybe leaving Bahai has stressed you ought because of this reaction they have to you. You're not the first to crack because of religion. Ignore these people and they should ignore you. Damn this religion. Damn it all. What a shame.

mediator got mad and escalate the conflict!

Masoud az America, this is not your place to make any diagnosis!You! Yes, you and few here are in need of Mental health care.

شهردار سایت ایرانیان رو میگی؟

گفتی داداش.این نور شده شهردار سایت ایرانیان.همه جا هم هست.

Dear Massoud

A lot of us have been waiting for some of this exposures for a while. I read your other blog, and also the comments there. Unfortunately, in my opinion, Mr. Nur is truly a disturbed person.

I don't know the exact details of his associations with the Bahai community, nevertheless, it is obvious that it has impacted him greatly. His writings are that of a Paranoid person, perhaps even a Schizophrenic.

I hope that he gets help. Someone like him, could potentially pose a danger not only to himself, but also to others.

I appreciate your work. Best ....

you should be ashamed

I don't read Persian, but I know what the picture means, and I know from the handle who you are talking about. You should be ashamed.

Bahai Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed while supporting the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

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دوستان

من این بلاگ را دو روز پیش نوشتم، به امید اینکه دوستان بهایی را، از یک طرف، و اقای نور (NUR) را، از طرف دیگر، گرد هم اورده، تا مشکلاتشان را حل کنند. بنده نه بابی هستم، و نه بهایی. در ضمن، هیچگونه رابطه و دوستی با این دو گروه اصلا ندارم. بد نیست نگاهی به این بلاگ کرده، و نظرات همه را بخوانید، من جمله اقای نور - بعد،  برای خودتان قضاوت کنید - ممنون!

نت - این بلاگ مربوط میشود به بلاگ اول من که من راجع به این موضوع نوشتم. اگر روی ان کلیک کنید، می برتتان انجا!

مسعود عزیز

گل گفتی !

Ebi aka Haaji