سخنان بهرام مشیری در باره دروغ های رضا پهلوی

Tapesh
by Tapesh
02-Jul-2012
 

صحبتهای بهرام مشیری در رابطه با دروغ گویی‌های رضا پهلوی.


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Darius Kadivar

Didn't know 'totalitarian regimes allowed you to travel abroad ?

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Arj

The totalitarian devide!

by Arj on

Totalitarian regimes such as that of Pahlavis and the Islamic regime ruling Iran --which are ruled by megalomaniacs such as Shah, Khomeini and Khamenei -- thrive on driving a wedge among the population in order to direct the public hatred towards certain groups in order to justify their incompetencies, mismanagements and abuse of power.

These regimes and their sociopathic leaders (Shah, Khomeini and Khamenei, who by the way have/had delusional agendas such as Shah's "golden gates of civilization" and Khomeini's "repossession of Quds through Karbala"...) see the populace only in two groups; "pawns" who accommodate their psychotic objectives, and "rogues" who impede the realization of their delusional fantasies.

That is exactly why these psychotic despots have their pawns kissing their hands -- and in general terms , their asses -- and those seen as obstacles to their feverish dreams incarcerated, tortured or killed, so in their minds they break the spirit of opposition and keep the populace in chek! They particularly pick a group of their oppositions to dehumanize in extreme fashion and create a mock alternative in order to justify their dysfunctional dictatorships to the terrified public; e.g. "if we don't do this or that, they're gonna take over and ..."!

Shah and his propaganidists did, and still do so with the Tudeh party and Tudehis, and IRI and its agents did and still do same with PMOI/MEK! Indeed, with the comically dehimanized evil charcters they make of these sidelined opposition groups, they not only attempt to anihilate them as political rivals, but to eradicate all opposition by associating other political groups with these "evil" groups!

But fortunately, as Shah and his pathetic regime is rotting in the trashbin of history and the Islamic regime is on its way to join them sooner than later, our new generation is not going to be fooled by such propaganda and cheap tactics! They want democracy and they know that no political group or inclination should be demonized or illegalized. They know that even one political prisoner (whatever name be it under; traitor, separatist, enemy of state...) is one too many, for in a civilized world and a civil society that is not ruled by savages and despots, there should be no such thing as political crime or political prisoners!


alimostofi

You could not afford

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You could not afford me.

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anglophile

I said thank you Mr Mostofi. The first session has ended.

by anglophile on

We can continue in the next session but I am afraid there is going to be a fee. 


alimostofi

I am the one whose grandad

by alimostofi on

I am the one whose grandad taught MRP. Our home was where MRP was born in. You know that for me it is in my DNA. I am the teacher in all this. If only RP listened to half the stuff. It took three years to get him to believe in non violent opposition. First step is to form a group of 12 Iranians who can represent Iran and are accepted by UN to form a provisional government of Iran in exile. It is not rocket science. We are not talking politics or religion. We are talking love for Iranian culture. No one is against that. And no one is perfect. We will all make mistakes. But our love and heart for Iran will keep us positive about Iran. Correct me if I am wrong. I am not wrong.

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anglophile

Thank you Mr Mostofi

by anglophile on

I got the answers I needed. There are no more questions. You may now raise from the coach. There are no charges for the first session.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Ali and Anglophile, please

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

http://iranian.com/main/blog/amirparvizforsecu...

in the spirit of democracy please go to the link and cast your votes, relate, live, love and above all laugh together so you can get closer and minimize silly animosities. Anglo, Ali's not gonna be shah, Ali anglo gets red with your way of expressing yourself instead of doin your job which is congratulating the young king for being intelligent and acting in a well rounded and cautious way for pete's sake even the f'ing foreign minister of canada is peeing on iranians f your ideas on action for the moment you are totally not informed, so just be friends, join me and vote on the link


alimostofi

I actually know more than

by alimostofi on

I actually know more than almost anyone in Iran the ancient history and the spirit of Iran so much that it drives me to free Iran without bloodshed. I wrote and spoke about non violent change when I was at Princeton in 1979. My pedigree is second to none. I express who I am and I am proud of it. No pretence. A natural leader.

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anglophile

One more question Mr Mostofi, if I may?

by anglophile on

What are your qualifications that make you suitable for the job that others may not have?


alimostofi

Absolutely. And I have a

by alimostofi on

Absolutely. And I have a plan. No problem. No fear. Someone needs to serve the Spirit of The Throne of Solomon and pray for Iran at Azargoshnasp.

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anglophile

Mr Mostofi this meant to be a serious question

by anglophile on

Should Cyrus Reza Pahlavi abdicate and in the absence of any male successor would you by any chance consider to throw your hat in the ring? 


fozolie

Arj hogwash!

by fozolie on

You write beautifully to the extent that you had me almost forgetting Tudeh crimes. Now that we know what they were really up to, namely destablising at any price for their sick aimes, your argument is not convincing anyone who has read the history of their subterfuge, treachery and murders. Nobody buys that any more. Sell it somewhere else.  

Mr. Fozolie


alimostofi

The difference between The

by alimostofi on

The difference between The Queen of England and Cyrus Reza Pahlavi is that QoE does her job running the UK's Royal Institution. Our Royal Institution is not being run. Cyrus Reza Pahlavi is not carrying out his job as the caretaker of Iran's Royal Institution because he thinks he would be more popular in being a Human Rights advocate.

The reason for all this is that he is worried for the people to label him as a dictator if he starts to carry out his mandate.

That mandate would mean for him to rescue the culture of Iran under the rule of IRGC. He does not want to say to the world that as heir to the throne he has the power to order the country to rise up against the Ayatollah. He does not want to take the responsibility to even oversee a government in exile.

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ghalam-doon

Dr. Mohandes jan, I partially agree with you!

by ghalam-doon on

Especially with the last paragrah:

" Don't u think that themere idea of seeing his or her majesty of some X
country that sends waves of proud and joy down your spine, Is what and
how all our problems has started? That is where the concept of Idolizing
someone finds its roots at, in my HO"

I guess it's too late even to talk about these things since the Shah and his father put an end to monarchy in Iran and destroyed an ancient and honorable institution. However, I think one could make a distinction between having respect for someone and worshiping the ground that they walk on.

An example would be Queen Elizabeth. We saw how her people celebrated her diamond jubilee without being forced to do so or idolizing her in any way. Now compare that to what we had/have in Iran.


Ashk Dovom

Thanks ghalam-doon!

by Ashk Dovom on

You are absolutely right when you say: "He's trying to be many things and he ends up being nothing." I am not a psychologist, but I can only guess that maybe this is the result of a pampered life. He is a spoilt kid! Both the Shah and Reza Shah went through tough military training and their characters were formed through rigorous discipline and relentless  army rules. Reza Pahlavi was kicked out of his country and  lost his father at an early age. His unfortunate situation made those around him treat him with leniency and spoilt him even more. Although he was a spoilt kid already back in Iran when during one Christmas party he embarrassed the Shah by getting up and performing a disco dance in front of Jimmy Carter and his wife. No one has ever corrected his conduct. He just doesn't have what it takes to fit the role he has inherited. But it is useless to tell this to his worshippers, for even if tomorrow he were to perform a strip tease in front of the television camera his supporters would find a way to justify it.


Dr. Mohandes

Ghalamdoon jan

by Dr. Mohandes on

 Even though your comment was not refering to me but...

With all due respect to your well-justified and articulated disdain for mr. RP, but you are really stretching this way too far my man.

The conducts of reza pahlavi on any show, be it comedy or not, should not be a measuring stick by which we make real judgments on him and his personality.  He goes on these comedy show to act in a  funny  way and act differently than his usual norm, that is what obama does , he just did it on Jimmy fallen show a couple of weeks ago, of which i thought as absolutely rediculous thing to do, BUT I did not hold it against him. Because there was a context through which he was supposed to act that way. 

BTW, jay leno, practically has ruined the little reputation the white house had left, so really makes no damn difference how Hussein agha presents himself. Like a cool gansta or a stick up his butt, stiff el preseidente.  

Have you noticed how obama jokes around with reporters in many of the press conferences, with the big exception of that guy who heckled him basically on his HC reform victory, But i mean that is the general theme of his speeches, emails, press conferences. He is one cool commdaner in chief!

Don't u think that themere idea of seeing his or her majesty of some X country that sends waves of proud and joy down your spine, Is what and how all our problems has started? That is where the concept of Idolizing someone finds its roots at, in my HO.

 


مآمور

رضا شاه با

مآمور


رضا شاه با لیاقت بود و ایران را یک پارچه حفظ کرد. پسرش اسیر دیو صیهونیست و نماینده آن در ایران بود!! این شازده خپل هم که اصلأ هیچی!!

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ghalam-doon

Ashk-Dovom I agree with you!

by ghalam-doon on

We can say many things about the Shah but at least he acted like a Shah. We used to see him on TV and deep down we were proud.

That's something that is missing in this prince in waiting. He's trying to be many things and he ends up being nothing.

I watched him on a comedy show and he was addressing the interviewer as "ghorbonet beram"! Is that the way the Royal Highness is supposed to talk?

Even Obama has some respect for the office that he occupies and when he appears on Jay Leno show, he talks like a commander in chief, a president.

 


Ashk Dovom

جنا ب انگلوفیل

Ashk Dovom


مثل اینکه شماهم مثل لیدر محترمتون بیشتر اهل اظهار نظرید تا گوش دادن و خواندن اظهار نظرات دیگران. اگر به نوشته قبلی بنده عنایت میفرمودید میدید که بنده نه تنها نقش رضا شاه را "کمرنگ" نکرده ام بلکه مطالبی  که جنابعالی مرقوم و نقل قول فرموده بودید را عمدتا تایید کرده ام. فقط متذکر شدم که پیشرفت ایران در زمان رضا شاه نتیجه یک تلاش جمعی و صد البته با یک رهبری کارساز و موثر بود و امیدوارم که شما هم اینرو قبول داشته باشید و بر این گمان نباشید که رضا شاه مثل حضرت موسی عصاشو میانداخت روی زمین و  کشور بدبخت وبا زده، شپشو رو تبدیل میکرد به مملکت مدرن توسعه یافته. سهم اون کارگرها و مهندسینی رو  که با دلیری جانشون رو برای ساختن تونلها، جاده ها و برق رسانی به اقصی نقاط کشور از دست دادند  فراموش نکنید


ghalam-doon

LOVED IT!

by ghalam-doon on

I should start watching his program more often.

So the Shah had established a training camp to teach his people on the art of democracy! LOL!

As Moshirhi put it, this guy (Reza) has not even established that he's the legitimate heir to the throne and he's started this "gonde-gooie." Just wait until he actually ascends to the throne.

 


anglophile

جناب اشک دوم

anglophile


تلاش های بی‌ امان شما برای کمرنگ نشان دادن پیشرفت‌های خارق العاده ایران در عصر پهلوی جالب است ولی‌ توصیه می‌کنم که انرژی خودرا بیشتر صرف فراگیری حقایق از قول آنهائی که در عصر پهلوی از مخالفین پهلوی بوده‌اند ولی‌ با باز نگری به اندیشه‌های خود و واقعیات تاریخی به این درک رسیده اند که اگر بنیان بسیاری از نهاد‌های مدنی و سیاسی که در عصر پهلوی پایه گذاری شد نمی‌‌بود اکنون حکومت اسلامی از زمان طالبان در افغانستان هم بد تر کرده بود.

ماشااللّه اجودانی در باره رضا شاه و سکولاریزاسیون ایران در عصر پهلوی:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aywa7lUt_as&feature=relmfu


Ashk Dovom

انگوفل جان

Ashk Dovom


انگوفل جان، گرچه کسی منکر این نیست که رضا شاه آدم با عرضه ای بوده، نباید فراموش کنیم که جامعه هم در اون زمان با اصلاحاتی که به همت امیرکبیر، میرزا حسین‌خان سپهسالار و بیداری ملی پس از نهضت مشروطه پا گرفته بود آماده  و مترصد پیشرفت و دگرگونی بود. شما نگاه بکن حتی این دولت فناتیک وعصر حجری جمهوری اسلامی هم نتوانسته جلوی پیشرفت زمان و ترقی  ایران رو بگیره . میزان  بیسوادی بیشتر از سی درصد بعد از انقلاب کاهش پیدا کرده و میزان مرگ و میر نوزادان در زمان تولد بیشتر از بیست در صد کاهش پیدا کرده. دسترسی به بیمارستان و خدمات پزشکی در سطح کشور، تعداد دانشجویان دختر در دانشگاهها، جاده سازی و غیره و غیره با پیش از انقلاب قابل مقایسه نیست. پس این اشتباه رو نکنیم که همه پیشرفتهارو مدیون یک فرد قلمداد کنیم. بله، جامعه آماده پیشرفت و توسعه بود و رضا شاه هم نماد و بیانگر اون خواست جمعی و ملی برای ترقی بود. در اینکه ایشان همانطور که شما فرموده اید با رشادت کشوررو ازملوک الطوایفی و چند پارچگی نجات داد شکی نیست. ولی  اینکه بعضی میخواهند القا کنند که ایشان تنها با عرضه و کار آمد بودند و بقیه ملت یک مشت تن لش عقب مانده ، نه با عقل جور در میاد نه با انصاف و نه با وقایع تاریخی.

anglophile

Never mind the lies by the followers of the great Charlatan

by anglophile on

See what a republican and one time anti Shah activist says about Reza Shah (positive and negative) - Abbas Milani on Reza Shah:

 


Ashk Dovom

Reza Pahlavi has all the drawbacks, none of the positive

by Ashk Dovom on

Reza Pahlavi has all the faults and drawbacks of his father without any of his positive points. Like his father he has no respect for or faith in Iranian people and thinks that he should rely on foreigners to procure and secure him a crown. Although he pays lip service to democracy, deep down like his father  he has no respect or use for democracy.  On the other hand, he doesn't have his father's good looks and royal dignity. As Bahram Moshiri mentions he is vulgar and articulates himself very distastfully using pitiful language like "okeh hech" or " in baraye Fati tonboon nemisheh". He has no sense of comme il faut, or correctness in his talk or body language.  In spite of his numerous faults, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, whenever he appeared in international arena he brought honour and pride to Iranians by his behavior and dignity. Reza Pahlavi wants to be everything to everybody at the same time: Iranian prince, chummy American Joe Sixpack, descendant of Princess Esther, Kurdish separatist, a Green Movement activist and a showbiz personality and so on. He ends up looking like a clown! 


alimostofi

Coup of Reza Khan? If I have

by alimostofi on

Coup of Reza Khan? If I have read my history correctly, originally Reza Khan wanted to have a Republic, and it was the Mullahs who were afraid of another Ataturk, who decided to keep Iran a CM and made him King.

He only got the guns out on parliament after the Mullahs got out of line and there was an emergency.

Correct me if I am wrong. Or just read my grandad's book. Lol It is in English as well.

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Bavafa

خیلی‌ جالب و آموزنده بود...

Bavafa


با تشکر فراوان.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


مآمور

از فسیل تا سنگواره

مآمور


 خاطرم میاد آن اوایل انقلاب ارباب من فرستاد روبروی دانشگاه تهران تا کتاب ۵۰ـ۵۲ (نمیدونم چند نفر) تن افسران حزب توده!!چیچیه!!را برای مطالعه ایشان خریداری کنم. گفتم ارباب آخه ۷۲ تن خودم چه عیبی دارد که افتادی دنبال تن روسها؟؟ آمرانه جواب داد، شما دهاتیها بی کلاس و امل هستید!! آخوندها از شما استفاده میکنند!!!
ارباب این روزها پیر شده و خانه نشین، آخرین بار که برای عرض سلام خدمت رسیدم دیگر من رادهاتی صدا نمیکرد، آخه پلی که جهاد سازندگی زده بود و دهات ما را به شهر وصل کرده!! این دفعه با کمی لرزش فرمودند  ً شما از نظم نوین جهانی خبر ندارید ُ

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CallmeRed

عالی عالی.

CallmeRed


بسیار جالب بود. مثل همیشه

بهتره رضا پهلوی دیگه صحبت شاه شدن نکنه چون شخصا خودش رو ریشخند میکنه.

درضمن بهرام مشیری راست میگه اوائل میگفت من یک شهروند ساده هستم و فقط خیر و صلاح مردم و برقراری دموکراسی و آزادی درایران را میخواهم، تازگیها به شدت شبهه برش داشته که شاه مملکته!!!ااون هم ازراه دور...

منظورش هم از آموزش دموکراسی آمورش زندگی به سبک آمریکایی به مردم بدبختی بود که توی حلبی آباد زندگی می کردند!!!!! . 


Arj

The bogeymen of politics!

by Arj on

Fascist and quasi-fascist reimes, and by a wider margine, undemocratic rules, need a bogeyman who's a corrupted caricature of the political opposition in order to eradicate all oposition to the rule by associating them to the said bogeyman. Soviets had the "imperialist collaborators" and Americans had "communists" to bash all opposition entities -- majority of whom by the way had nothing to do with American imperialism or communism.

By the same token, and as IRI's loosely use of the term "mohareb" serves its purpose of criminalizing political dissent, Shah and his coup d'etat regime used the term "Tudehi" as the bogeymen to justify snuffing of all opposition groups, namely by torturing and murdering of political prisoners via "association" with the "Tudeh" or "Tudhi."

In reality many of these people had nothing to do with the Tudeh party or even if they did, they where mere supporters of the party or low-rank members. Even many high ranking members were not necessarily in contact with the soviets! Nevertheless, Shah's regime painted all Tudehis as "Soviet agents," and nearly all leftist or even liberal democrqtic opposition entities as "Tudehi!" As the IRI uses the same tactic with the term "mohareb."

Indeed, to this day, many of the Pahlavi worshippers, ex-Savakis and their descendants still use the term "Tudehi" as a bogeymen to justify the despotic and savage nature of Shah's regime! Matter of factly, although having expressed my opposition to communism and support of democratic socialism, I myself have been subject of attacks by the Pahlavi groupies as a "Tudehi" for merely defending the rights of Tudehis, and communists in general, to freedom of political activity! 


fozolie

I love the jebhe gheir e melli justification and mozakhraf gooi

by fozolie on

You engage in innuendo the same as every other fanatic. You make unsubstantiated accusations against Reza Shah of being a British stooge.  Where is your evidence? What would you have Iranians do? Continue living In the shit that Qajar rule was?  

Wasn't the British stooge your Imamzadeh Mossadegh? How much damages did we pay BP? Didn't your hero cause the split that still to this day splits nationalists? Whose support in the Parliament he was relying on long before his incompetent government, wasn't it Tucdeh? Did he not want to rule by decree? Keep your silly justifications for yourself.  

 

Mr. Fozolie