Ahmadinejad: Iran Will Keep Nukes as Long as Israel Does
Jewish Times / Jewish Times
30-Oct-2009 (48 comments)

Iran will continue to progress in its nuclear program as long as Israel continues to have nuclear weapons, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said.

The Iranian president made the remarks Tuesday during a meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the semi-official state news agency ISNR reported.

“When an illegal regime possesses nuclear weapons, the other countries’ rights for peaceful nuclear energy cannot be denied,” ISNR quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons but has never admitted to having them.

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Shah Ghollam

Payame Nahs

by Shah Ghollam on

You keep calling some of us spammers, well it is officially proven that you are the greatest spammer of mankind history. Just take a look at your very very very very long list of posted article's which surprise surprise are either in support of killers and rapers in i.r. or are bashing on USA or esrail.

Among many other things, you should get the definition of "spamming" correct. Posting articles here at IMF is not defined as "spamming". But attemps to derail the discussion on the main topic of the post is "spamming". Your attempts to "silence" people here for whatever they post stems from the fact that you have no sense for "Democracy" and "Freedom of speech" that you beat your chest  for so much. You have to first put it into your head that you have a long way before you "deserve" Democracy! Ireesponsible people such as yourself will turn any freedom to chaotic hooliganism. Your behavior in virtual world proves the case. 

Baba, get the peanuts out your eyes and while you at it have a brain scan,  the symptoms and behaviour you are showing go along with antisocial personality disorder which untreated in long term will turn you into your hero killer/raper leaders, irreversibly.

Welcome to the truth! Such statements will only encourage me more to keep on. You and the people who think and behave like you are not for democracy nor for freedom in Iran. You are simply pissed because you are not at power. Like what MKO members, such as yourself, have exhibited in the last thirty years.

MKO, and you as a member, has proven to Iranians that they are bunch of terrorist prostitudes working for whomever that pays more. They also proved that as traitors and terrorists they can put Hitler to shame in brutality, god forbid if you guys ever come even close to power in Iran. 

 


پیام

Gholi, one more thing.

by پیام on

You keep calling some of us spammers, well it is officially proven that you are the greatest spammer of mankind history. Just take a look at your very very very very long list of posted article's which surprise surprise are either in support of killers and rapers in i.r. or are bashing on USA or esrail.

Baba, get the peanuts out your eyes and while you at it have a brain scan,  the symptoms and behaviour you are showing go along with antisocial personality disorder which untreated in long term will turn you into your hero killer/raper leaders, irreversibly.


Shah Ghollam

The saga continues......!

by Shah Ghollam on

Mardom Azar,

I simply put into English boldley what you write in Farsi here at Iranian.com everytime you are to insult posters. Now why you would write in Farsi what you did not write in English is by itself a whole different discussion about your real charactor.

As far as I am concerned, I simply give you what you deserve, it is all for everyone to be the judge in this open forum!

 

Kashani,

Shah Gholam, I think

What a surprise! 

 

I think craig, Payam and mardoom pretty much summed it up and “layed it all out on you”! 

 

Somebody seems to always have to help you here, isn't that special?

You parrot everything that comes out of IRIs mouth, and since IRI is the most brutal, savage, inhumane and fundamentalist regime in the world which is butchering your brothers and sisters in Iran on daily basis, that makes you a propagandist at best..and a partner in IRIs crimes against humanity in Iran at worst.

Finally you uttered why you call me what you call me here or anyone else for that matter. Your expectations from anyone to blast IRI like you do before you start your name calling is nothing but "bullying". However, nothing more is expected from a hard core Zionist who supports murdering innocent civilians in occupied Palestine for the past sixty years. You will be estetic on the day Iran is nuked for the interest of Israel and then blame it on IRI regime.

I am also glad that you finally disassociated yourself from Iran by calling "your brothers and sisters". I never had any doubt that you have always been far more concernned about Israeli well being than Iranians. Thank you!

Everything you say is out of desperation. You know Iranians, and the world, despise your regime and want it removed, so you take your anger, frustration and desperation on Israel.

My slow enemy, desperation for what reason? Who is the world to you? A handful of European or a couple of American countries are not the world by any standards. Open your eyes, there is far more to the world that you can see from you shut windows.

My dislike towards Israel has a lot to do with what Israel stands for for what it has done to the ME and the world, a cancer that must be dealt with so the world can breath a fresh air for future generations. That stands regardless of what happens to IRI or the future rgimes that will govern Iran. Why can't you get anything "stratight" is beyond me! 

“NA GAZA NA LEBANON JAANAM FADAYEH IRAN”

We all have seen it too many times how you really subscribe to this "sound bite". It goes with your spamming tactics whever you find yourself in the hole to distract your audience from the main course, otherwise you have proved it means nothing to you but a lip service!

world although asking for just peace between Israel and Arabs, but in no way, shape or form, is asking for Israel to be wiped off the map, however, they are asking for IRI to be wiped off history. So this is another thing that adds to your anger, and your jealousy, and your desperation.

My slow enemy, why you have so much problems to get things straight? The world is asking a lot more from Israel. The world is asking Israel to stop killing innocent women and children, stop destroying Arab villages, stop invading countries in land grab moves, stop pushing Palestinians to migrate out of their ancesteral lands, stop mass killings, stop building on occupied lands, stop the creation of the biggest concentration camp ever called Gaza, stop the aparthied regime and so forth!

If there is any one here who is frustrated it is you. A day does not pass by w/o a bad news for Israel. It is Israel existance that is far more under question rather than Iran's. Iran has been there as long as humanity can remember, this cannot be said about your beloved Israel. It is a matter of a short time before US withdraws its immense political, financial and military support simply because its own existance is at stake now. It is then that the free loafer Israelis, having their monthly free paycheck by the American tax payers slashed, will be leaving Israel en mass back to wherever they think money is. That is a historical fact of the Jewish people and nothing that I have made on my own. I am telling you this not because I  believe you are not aware, rather, to show you how desperate you are. That is why your very existance here is justified. Iranians mean nothing to you, you shed crocodile tears, this is already known to the old timers here. You don't believe me, pay attention why you brought Israel into this discussion.

If you support IRI, and that support can be in many forms including engaging in useless anti Israeli propaganda to make IRI look righteous and legitimate, you are an enemy of Iran and its people, and you will be treated as one.

If this does not prove what I claim about you I simply don't know what can!

Once Iran is freed, you can perpetuate anti Israeli propaganda till you turn blue, trust me, no one gives a flying…you know what, because at that time, we know that propaganda will not be used as a tool to oppress the Iranian people.

Regardless of what will happen to Iran, anti Israeli sentiment will not diminish. That has alot to do with what Israel stands for. If you and your pay masters are hoping that Iranians will be officially silenced against Israeli crimes, much like during Shah's times, think again. The only time this story dies down is when Israel is dieing. For what I see is happening at the world stage (I mean the world with 186 countries), Israeli existantial days as we know it are numbered.  

 


Farhad Kashani

Shah Gholam, I think

by Farhad Kashani on

Shah Gholam,

I think craig, Payam and mardoom pretty much summed it up and “layed it all out on you”!

You parrot everything that comes out of IRIs mouth, and since IRI is the most brutal, savage, inhumane and fundamentalist regime in the world which is butchering your brothers and sisters in Iran on daily basis, that makes you a propagandist at best..and a partner in IRIs crimes against humanity in Iran at worst.

 

Everything you say is out of desperation. You know Iranians, and the world, despise your regime and want it removed, so you take your anger, frustration and desperation on Israel. This is IRIs oldest trick that proved miserably a failure. After 30 years of bombarding the Iranian people and the world with propaganda, Iranians came out and said “NA GAZA NA LEBANON JAANAM FADAYEH IRAN”, and the world although asking for just peace between Israel and Arabs, but in no way, shape or form, is asking for Israel to be wiped off the map, however, they are asking for IRI to be wiped off history. So this is another thing that adds to your anger, and your jealousy, and your desperation.

But make no mistake, we are not making nice with IRI and its supporters anymore. Done. 30 years of oppression of being nice is enough. We will fight and fight and fight until your beloved regime is sent to hell. If you support IRI, and that support can be in many forms including engaging in useless anti Israeli propaganda to make IRI look righteous and legitimate, you are an enemy of Iran and its people, and you will be treated as one. You could be Iranian, you could be non Iranian, you could be male, you could be female, you could be young, you could be old..It doesn’t matter.

Once Iran is freed, you can perpetuate anti Israeli propaganda till you turn blue, trust me, no one gives a flying…you know what, because at that time, we know that propaganda will not be used as a tool to oppress the Iranian people.


Mardom Mazloom

Ghollam-e-Ali (gueda)

by Mardom Mazloom on

After your failed propagandist cover, you are now showing your real face of stupid Hezbollahis. Truth hurts, Hein?

You got hurt because I said that IRI is collapsing, or rather than admitting that you’re a rapist apologist, you preferred to become coarse.

Anyway, your chances that a single soul believes on your shits here are merely 0. So, I repeat my first comment

ای غلام صحنه این سایت نه جولانگاه تست
عرض خود میبری و زحمت ما میداری


Shah Ghollam

Mardom Azar

by Shah Ghollam on

So you admit that you back IRI at all costs. Between us, do you really think that your void propaganda has a chance to be believed here. It's even rejeced in Iran. Your regime is doomed to disappear, you should think of an alternative plan.

Listen numb skull, what I think or not is a priviledged information that I would disclose to those to have at least a half brain over their shoulders not a hoolligan numb skull such as yourself.

Also, regardless of what happens to Iran in general, you as a dead weight, can claim nothing except when Iran falls. That should give you an idea what your existance really means to Iran and Iranians.


Mardom Mazloom

Capt_Nokhodi

by Mardom Mazloom on

Deeper in what? ;)

PS/ manam azet khosham miad, you're my hamvatan


capt_ayhab

gender unknown jan

by capt_ayhab on

LOL

so you like rump roast? I thought you liked Ash !

Have you noticed that you are sinking deeper and deeper? But since you are my hamvatan, I can not help it but to love you.

 

-YT 

P/S

خوشم اومد، هرچند که چندان متلک پرون  خوبی نیستی‌ و خودت برای خودت متلک جور میکنی‌،  ولی‌ جنبه داری


Mardom Mazloom

Ghollam-e-Ali (gueda)

by Mardom Mazloom on

So you admit that you back IRI at all costs. Between us, do you really think that your void propaganda has a chance to be believed here. It's even rejeced in Iran. Your regime is doomed to disappear, you should think of an alternative plan.


Shah Ghollam

Mardom Azar

by Shah Ghollam on

You say one thing and when you're putting in the front of your non-sense, you change the registry.

Sounds like I caught you dumb founded! Then again, this was not the first time! ;-)


Mardom Mazloom

Ghollam,

by Mardom Mazloom on

You say one thing and when you're putting in the front of your non-sense, you change the registry.


Garbage in ---> Garbage out (ha ha ha)

Finally, do you back murders, rapes, perpetuated in IRI or not?

 


Mardom Mazloom

Capt_Nokhodi

by Mardom Mazloom on

خیلی خوب نمیخواستم بروت بیارم , ولی مثله اینکه خیلی میخواهی زور بزنی بگوی کون نخودی ;) خوب باش, ولی من همیشه از نخود گنده ها شروع میکنم .


capt_ayhab

Gender Undecided Mazloom Agho

by capt_ayhab on

Read the question more carefully ;-o)

Here let me help you: [I wonder what part of Nokhods you start eating first???  ;-o)]

-YT 


Shah Ghollam

Mardom Azar

by Shah Ghollam on

So your HATE for the great satan rapist makes you spread shit propaganda for the rapists in IRI. Woaw what a logic you have! So let me tell you that for me it's the inverse. I HATE rapists in IRI as well as their followers. You're one of them right?

though there was a lot more to my previous respond to you but what a heck, the respond to your above comment is just what i wrote to vildmouse:

With fals assumptions such as yours, there is only one resutlt:

Garbage in --------> Garbage out

Any more of your grand assumptions/analysis/discussions?

Also, do you have anything meaning ful to add to the article posted here? i guess you simply cannot. It takes beef that you don't seem to posses!

 


Mardom Mazloom

Nokhodi(as gender) Capt_ayab

by Mardom Mazloom on

Which Nokhods you start eating first???
I usuallly start with the largest ;-o)

Shah Ghollam, the only spamer and non sense speaker on IC is you for the moment.
You say: After all, the US has been blamed to be biggest rapist murdering and mass killing nation post WWII. bla bla bla.
So your HATE for the great satan rapist makes you spread shit propaganda for the rapists in IRI. Woaw what a logic you have! So let me tell you that for me it's the inverse. I HATE rapists in IRI as well as their followers. You're one of them right?


Mola Nasredeen

"Shah Gholam

by Mola Nasredeen on

I declare you the next Shah of Iran. Your title will be AlaHazrate Homayooni, Noore Aria Shah Gholam Aval!" Said Hazrate shotor.

"Keep on informing, keep on exposing" Said I.


Shah Ghollam

Ali Akbar

by Shah Ghollam on

first I'd like to make the following observations....

 What do you think you get when you base a good deal of your discussion/analysis based on "false observations"?

They call this:  "garbage in, garbage out"!


Shah Ghollam

vildemouse

by Shah Ghollam on

Happy Holloween to you too!  :-)


Shah Ghollam

Payanm

by Shah Ghollam on

What if I told you that right now I'am in Iran?

Indeed I don't know and cannot prove either way! But what honesty reputaion have you brought to the table in your past that I could give a hoot what you claim any way? Is it your self Democratic ideals that you follow so well here or is it your Iranian patriotism that comes with a ton of encouragement for the American/Israeli bombings and sanctions for Iran that should give me the slightest clue as far as your honesty is concerned?


vildemose

    sociopathic

by vildemose on

 

 

sociopathic authoritative demeanor is the hallmark of all hizballhis and basiji. We see it on display daily on this site courtesy of "Khameni-Gholam".

Lucky for us today , we are treated to  Khameni-Gholam's Halloweeen Special!

He help us celebrate Halloween by conjuring up the ugly human demons of Lies and Hypocrisy in the name of Islam or Toudeh, as well as reminding us of the violent  mindset of the religious zealots which will only lead to more violence in the future.


vildemose

I think it was

by vildemose on

I think it was "truthseeker" who was advocating arm struggle against the West and Israel..Shah Gholam, are you the same person? Do you want to arm every Iranian man, woman, child armed and turned into warriors? Is your other handle, "truthseeker"?


Ali Akbar

Am I the only one who see's the...

by Ali Akbar on

absurdity of Iran's position "well if Israel has Nukes then we have the right to have nukes too"

 

first I'd like to make the following observations....

 

[1] Iran is as we speak VIOLATING the human rights of any non-Muslim's who live in IRAN

[2] Iran has threatened the very existence of Israel

[3] Iran continues to hold the position that Germany and Adolf Hitler were right in exterminating Jews in Europe as if they were non-humans.....

 

in my book  3 STRIKES  YOU'RE OUT!!!!

 

FURTHERMORE their complaint that they have the right to nukes sounds like a criminal entity who is on the OTHER SIDE of the Law and wants the right to own a gun....

 

From my understanding of American Law if you are GUILTY of a FELONY you surrender the right to own a gun   


پیام

Nonsense as usual.

by پیام on

I was merely commenting to other people about your behaviour Gholi khan. Once again you amaze me more with your "knowledge". I am indeed jealous of your ignorance. If you only could be more like you,. then I wouldn't bother to confront people like you witg their actions.

As far as residence, as usual you try to be a know it all. What in earth gave you the idea I am living in the states? Wrong again! Is it beacause you assue and know for fact that me and my other countrymen have no acces to Iranian.com from inside Iran? So we must live in US to make these kind of comments? What if I told you that right now I'am in Iran? Hahahahahaha!

Which group do I belong to now? Not MKO again, it's really getting boring.

About the "mardoonegi". I dare you to go out on 13 Aban and tell the people in the streets the same thing you are advocating here. Let's see if you are man enough to that. And who says I didn't join protests in Iran last summer? Do I have to confess everything to you and your hezbolalhi brothers.

Instead og judging others,  take a deep look at your own childish behaviour. Stop supporting killers and rapers. People like you are the cause of our problems in Iran. Thank God that every knows it these days. Just for once in your life be a man and stand for a noble cause. Open your eyes man.

Otherwise I really suggest you take a one way ticket to your native country which I am sure is not Iran and do not return to Iran. We are better off without your people.


Shah Ghollam

Mardom Azar, Payam and Kashani

by Shah Ghollam on

I guess one more time you gentelmen have nothing meaningful to say/add about posted articles but resorting to spamming to derail healthy discussions. So here we go again:

Payam:

Shah Gholam is a know it all

You have a serious problem. I know of no redemies for jealousy to cure you. Learn to take it like a man is my only advice.

As far as a democratic debate goes, I do not engage in a debate with those defending murderers and rapers.

Then you are living in a wrong country since the US has been implicated for rape, murder, mass killings of thousands of innocent civilians (that still continues). You must be living a lonely life in the US!!!! That could explain the language and the methods you use to engage me and others here.

Everyone is entiteld to his/her opinion, as long as he does not deny the same right to others.

Can I take it you are very good at "nushkhar kardan" rather than applying the principal.

The same freedom that is denied by his precious leaders to Iranians in Iran. Not even one "reformist" newspaper is allowed to be printed these days. Reformist's websites are either blocked or hacked and their publishers are jailed. I hope for once this "character" would confess to that, but I think that is a hope to far.

If you have any beef with IRI, I suggest you show some "mardanegy" (tough commodity among your club here) and take it to them like real men do, enage IRI where you should, on the streets of Tehran instead of yapping in your comfortable chair in the US behind your computer while encouraging others other youngesters to risk danger on your behalf. Don't feel bad, mardom Azar and Kashani are in the same leagus as you are, you are in a deserving company, a handful of "bozdel"!

Mardom Azar:

You're a joke.

You don't seem to be laughing. Unless you include none sense talk and spamming as laughing.

That includes rapes; murders; mass executions and fascism.

As I told Payam, you must be a sorry state! After all, the US has been blamed to be biggest rapist murdering and mass killing nation post WWII. But Like the rest of club members, you don't have "balls" to critisize or engae Americans on such issues. You enjoy to stick to your "hot air" for Iranians, that is far less risky, no? So, the question is "What the hell are you doing here among Americans if you know they are acclaimed rapists and mass murderers? You are doing what the some hot communists do who live in the US!

Your masters ( Kha.R. and A.N.) also claim that IRI is the most democratic state in the world but do you really think that people believe these spiels anymore? All you (IRI) know is to divide, kill and push your crap one step further.

For someone who complains about me associating people with countries or organizations you are amusing. I go further, in fact you are the joke, and I am laughing aloud, too bad you can't see me!

By the way, do you guys have anything meaninful to contribute to the article posted? Please spare us with childish spamming!!!!!

 


capt_ayhab

Gu. Mardom Mazloom

by capt_ayhab on

ps./ Me too I love Ash . I always begin to eat its Nokhods first. 

I wonder what part of Nokhods you start eating first???  ;-o)

Agho you walked right into that one ha. But honestly, I never get angry at anyone, only disappointed at best. 

-YT 


Mardom Mazloom

Shah Ghollam

by Mardom Mazloom on

You're a joke. You back ALL IRI's exactions as you reflect ALL their crap here. That includes rapes; murders; mass executions and fascism. But you still have the cheek to speak about democracy ! Hahaha Khodeti janam.

Your masters ( Kha.R. and A.N.) also claim that IRI is the most democratic state in the world but do you really think that people believe these spiels anymore? All you (IRI) know is to divide, kill and push your crap one step further.


پیام

Shah Gholam is a know it all.

by پیام on

He has categorized us to all kinds of groups. I bet he keeps a chart next to his keyboard with our names and the groups to which he thinks we belong to.

As far as a democratic debate goes, I do not engage in a debate with those defending murderers and rapers. Everyone is entiteld to his/her opinion, as long as he does not deny the same right to others. And that is exactly what Gholi does. He tries to marginalize people and calls them names constantly and judges which opinion is accepted and which one is not. I am actually amazed by the freedom of speech that this guy gets on Iranian.com. The same freedom that is denied by his precious leaders to Iranians in Iran. Not even one "reformist" newspaper is allowed to be printed these days. Reformist's websites are either blocked or hacked and their publishers are jailed. I hope for once this "character" would confess to that, but I think that is a hope to far.

All of above will be charactrized as CIA/Mossad/Zionist(nazi) propaganda by Gholi. That's is all that his kind can and will do. Iranians are and will always be victorious, the history is the evidence of that. These non-Iranians will end ruling us pretty soon. The day is near :)


ex programmer craig

Shah Ghollam

by ex programmer craig on

Can we agree that you have now come around and not only agree with my
statement but also wholeheartedly applying applying it too?  

Not really, but I guess maybe we can agree that I'm bored because I had to cancel my plans tonight and nobody is around here!


Shah Ghollam

EX

by Shah Ghollam on

It's my observation that most the readers here associate themselves with the green movement, so it doesn't really make sense that they would be giving a bad image to themselves right?

You are entitled to your "impresssion" !

By the way, I recall you saying that you "been there done that" in terms of engaging people like me on other forums. I also recall that I rsponded to that by reminding you that on a public forum you cannot pick and choose who you wish to respond to your posts. Can we agree that you have now come around and not only agree with my statement but also wholeheartedly applying applying it too?  


ex programmer craig

Shah Ghollam

by ex programmer craig on

Well, I did notice this part:

This is necessary since they give a bad image to the Green movement in the eyes of readers here and thus cheapen the Green cause. 

It's my observation that most the readers here associate themselves with the green movement, so it doesn't really make sense that they would be giving a bad image to themselves right? So I assumed that you meant they would give a bad impression to those few people like you who don't associate themselves with the green movement.

Am I right? If so, is there a reason they should care if Iranians who don't support them anyway disapprove of them?

But maybe you meant they would give a "bad image" to non-Iranians on this website? People like me?