شاه و فراماسونری

Tapesh
by Tapesh
10-Feb-2012
 

سابقه ی انگلیسی ها در فرقه سازی و تشکیل سازمان های مخفی به قرن 16 میلادی بر میگردد

در جایی که درسال 1619 انگلیسی ها تشکیلاتی مخفی . سری به نام فراماسونری را بنا نهادند.

 


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MM

Anglophile, my old chap - here is an easy pol-sci 101 quiz

by MM on

I will even give you the answers underneath each question, if you promise not to peek.

Q. who is ruling Iran now?

A. Blood-sucking Mollahs.

Q. Why are the Mollahs ruling Iran?

A. Because Iranians were yearning for democracy under MRP.

Q. What is RP(II) doing now?

A. He is promising Iranians to do what his father, MRP, should have done 60 years ago, if Iranians gave monarchy a chance, again.


anglophile

Chill off MM - you need to retake your 101s :))

by anglophile on

Firstly, you clearly don't understand the differece between "constitutional royal decree" and "ruling by decree" (politics 101). Mosaddegh was appointed by a royal decree and was removed by a royal decree but the Shah was not ruling by decree (at least until 1953). I suppose by "[the] Shah sould have ruled than decreed" you meant the Shah should have reigned and not ruled. Well he did reign until Mosaddegh taught him a big lesson: democracy is just a ploy to gain power and then abuse it - as Mosaddegh did.   Secondly, I didn't know you are so close to her majesty the Queen - can you please put in a good word for me? LoL. When or where did she say that monarchy (particularly the British monarchy) is a dictatorship - source please?   Lastly, old boy, the American so called revolution took its roots from the British democracy and the Free Mason George Washington replaced King George III. One George replaced the other (history  101).  When you read all these then maybe we can have something to talk about - may be LOL.

MM

sorry buddy - Shah should have ruled than decreed

by MM on

If the 1906 constitution was based on the European monarchies, even your current Queen in England would say that it was a dicatorship.  Your Queen learned that lesson when Washingtonophiles kicked the old Georgiboy out of the new world for taxation without representation.

The actions you mentioned were based on a collective of thoughts from inside of Iran to change monarchy for the better.  On the other hand, if the Shah would have listened to his heart rather than foreign agents, his son would be ruling Iran rather than these blood-sucking Mollahs.


anglophile

Is this supposed to be a rebuttal?

by anglophile on

My dear fellow, the so called rebuttal you provided is no more than some specullation whereas there is documented evidence that the old man did belong to the Adamiyat lodge. And for his betrayal of the oath of office, you don't need to look too far away. Mosaddeq had violated his oath of office several times before he was removed. Examples are many.
  • He started off when he meddled in the legislaative affairs to get the Razmara's assassin off the hook as token of his appreciation for the vital assistance he received from Kashani and Co in having an obstacle called Razamara cleared off.
  •  
  • He he unlawfully brought the Majles to a state of dissolution by getting his supporters in Majles to resign. The he unlawfully staged an illegal and uncostitutonal referundum to legitimise the dissolution.
  •  
  • He did not protect the institution of monarchy against the unconstitutional speeches, provocations and actions of his own cabinet members, e.g. Fatemi and Shayegan among others.
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  • He disobeyed the Shah's decree that  removed him from office (received on 25 Mordad), He kept that decree secret from his own cabinet members until after he was removed.
Need I say more?

MM

regarding this video, and Anglophile's question

by MM on

This video sounds like the type of weekly half-truths that another not-so-well-known Iranian puts together, and adds his own version of truth in between the sentences. 

Personally, I do not think that joining the Mason's lodge is a crime, and as a matter of fact, some Masons that I know here are very horoable folks.  The main question that needs to be answered is whether an Iranian like Mosaddegh (Mason or not) disregarded/betrayed his oath of office.  And, compare that to the other not so honorable Iranian Masons from, e.g., All-Iranian's blog (http://iranian.com/main/blog/all-iranians-58).


MM

تهمت فراماسون بودن دکتر مصدق

MM