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Abaramard

The post bellow that I just sent in was in response to Abarmard's post.

Demagogy!

You said:
"Regardless of the form of the regime, you must be fair relating the stories. You have two sets of eyes that sees one side nice and other not. That's not right and it does mean caring for Israel, IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE."

Contrary to what you have been propagating in your posts over the past several months, it is because of the regime that has been seeking wars with its neighbors that many peace-loving individuals are criticizing it harshly. Let's not make any excuses for the warmongers in Tehran!

Are you denying that the mullahs have been using the language of threat against some of Iran's neighbors and Israel in the past thirty years? Does defending the likes of Ahmadinejad make you a better Iranian than those who condemn his warmongering rhetoric? Your problem is you think those who read your posts are not capable of understanding your love affair with the regiem in Iran.

And in this SPECIFI CASE, Sadegh is turning a blind eye to the brutalities of the regime against Iranians for the past three decades and tries to concentrate on an empty threat by an Israeli cabinet minister. Why isn't there any condemnation of Ahmadinejad's threats by those who support the IRI? Why the blatant lies about "mistranslation?"

You said,
"-The content of this blog is whether the media will react the same as Iran’s Ahmadinejad’s speech. We all know the answer."

No you don't know the answer and that is why you are still trying to make excuses for Ahmadinejad!
Abarmard, you don't even know what war is and you don't care.

You said,
"Let me ask you a question, let’s say similar to Iran-Iraq war, who is there to say who started the war? Until after the war and damages were done, and when the world began to dislike Iraq, every country believed that Iran started the war. Israel could do the same. Knowing that they have the media and resources to do so. This is more dangerous than you think since Israel has Nukes and has not shown the social responsibilities during their wars. Iran has!"

This is a whole different can of worms. Let's not even touch it. But why is it that the media is on the Israel's side? What has the Iranian regime done?

Also let's not talk about the media before discussing what has happened to the media inside Iran. To many Iranians what the mullahs have done to the media in Iran seems to be more important than what the foreign media would report. How many Iranians inside Iran are able to rely on the foreign media.

By the way, what is "social responsibilities?"
What the hell are you talking about? My be you want to use a different expression!

Also, is getting hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed what you call, "social responsibilities?"

You say,
"What he says means that Israel is willing and able to wipe Iran off the map. And you think that's OK?"

And why would Israel wait for thirty years and not do anything? If, as is reported, Israel intends to destroy Iran and has the capabilities to do so, why hasn't there been a war between Iran and Israel? What is holding Israelis back? They have had good excuses to attack Iran all along and they haven't done so, WHY?

AND when did I say it was "OK for Israel to wipe Iran off the map?"

THIS IS BLATANT DEMAGOGUERY ON YOUR PART!!!

The rset is peeshkesh!

No war between Israel and Iran

I don't think Israelis want a war with Iran and I don't think Iranians want a war with Israel. But somebody sure does! We already knew that the mullahs were easy to manipulate into an unwanted, unnecessary war. But now we know that at least this guy from Israel is not better!

Any smart individual, especially in a position of power, will not resort to enflaming the situation but invite to peace and unity. From the verbal fight between people on this thread, it is dismayingly obvious that it is easy to get the two countries into a war even though there is really no reason for it.

I wish we could be smarter and look around and see who it is that is getting us into a fight.

Throughout history....

....no country as small as Israel has created so much problems for the whole world!

They brag about their NUKES all the time. Skrew them and their "nuclear ambiguty" policy!

You racist, knucle heads can not even handle a small group north of your border meanwhile threatening IRAN?!

As long as Israel is the only one with nules in Middle East it will continue to blackmail everyone!

why bother attacking them??

no need to attack isreal by a military mean.Like soviet union, south africa and few other examples isreal will be dissolved . they lack legitimacy.this is a question they are asking, where will be isreal on 60 years on its 60th birthday??answer is clear it wont exisit any more.of course Iran will take the most credit

Not a subject for discussion!

Just say SHUT UP to Israeli commander!
There is no limit to criminal intentions of Israeli occupiers!

My Israeli friends should know...

that three (3) nuclear weapons will completely wipe Israel out from the face of the world map.

I believe that they should be careful in how they address the Iranian people. They are a very proud and nationalistic people.

In a nuclear exchange, Iran and Persia will ultimately survive, but I highly doubt whether anything will be left from the Israeli state. This is especially true in view of the wrath that the Jewish People in general, and the Israelis in particular, will bring upon themselves from the rest of the Islamic World.

A nuclear attack on Iran equates the ultimate 'Annihilation' of the Jewish State, Israel, and perhaps even the rest of the jewish people.

Naazokbin , let me clarify

You said:
"Exposing a demagogue DOES NOT mean caring about Israel."
-Yes, if it's a one way street. Regardless of the form of the regime, you must be fair relating the stories. You have two sets of eyes that sees one side nice and other not. That's not right and it does mean caring for Israel, IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE.

-The content of this blog is whether the media will react the same as Iran’s Ahmadinejad’s speech. We all know the answer. Let me ask you a question, let’s say similar to Iran-Iraq war, who is there to say who started the war? Until after the war and damages were done, and when the world began to dislike Iraq, every country believed that Iran started the war. Israel could do the same. Knowing that they have the media and resources to do so. This is more dangerous than you think since Israel has Nukes and has not shown the social responsibilities during their wars. Iran has!

What he says means that Israel is willing and able to wipe Iran off the map. And you think that's OK? You make excuses about this outrageous speech yet you tend to look harshly at the Iranian side. What historical evidence do you have to say that Iran is a more serious threat to the Middle East than Israel?

This is not an anti Israeli argument but a valid political argument in regards to the realities of the Middle .

I tend to actually believe that this guy is coming from a large base, along with many western regimes, which would like Iran destroyed while Iran's Ahmadinjad's speech was different. You are free to interpret it anyway you like, I see it this way.

"Are you implying those who criticize the mullahs and their supporters are not Iranian?"
-Never. If you dislike the IRI, don't go and bend over for a regime that hasn't been on the Iranian side either. Remember that this guy has clearly declared "ALL THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WILL BE GONE". As an Iranian, I don't like him and what he says regardless how I feel about IR. How about you?

-I disapprove of those who tell others:”if you like so and so why don’t you go there or live there…” I am not even going to respond to that, not to say that I don’t have an answer for you but I am going to stop here.

Partridge V Ostrich

In the Persian adage it is a partridge that sticks its head in the sand. With some liberty, the Ostrich that you mistook it with would be more apt in the example of those who profess love for human rights and the Iranian nation but at the same time back Islamic Republic’s policies even at the cost of misrepresenting verifiable facts.

You can rebuke and point out

Abarmard!

1. Exposing a demagogue DOES NOT mean caring about Israel.

2. Do you understand the meaning of quotation marks?

3. Are you implying those who criticize the mullahs and their supporters are not Iranian?

4. If you care so much about Iran, what are you doing outside Iran? YOUR country needs YOU!

The Israelis are imperialist

The Israelis are imperialist European colonizers that want to dominate the Middle East and will destroy anyone who dares stand in their way. Just look what they have done to the Palestinians (a helpless people), the Lebanese and anyone else that dares challenge their ambitions. I don't care about the IRI but to threaten to murder millions of innocent Iranians is barbaric and the Israeli government should be shown up for the monsters they really are. They don't even know the meaning of civilization!!!

Interesting

It's just very interesting to see so many "Iranians" who care a great deal about Israel! How sweet.

LOL..... back and forth....

Don't ya just love these Leaders?  Honestly, the first thought that came to my mind was "Monkey see, Monkey do."

Disingenuous

It is disingenuous to say that Ahamdinejad’s directly quoted threat has been “mistranslated”. Neither his, nor Rafsanjani’s infamous Friday prayer sermon saying a nuke attack would finish off Israel while a counter attack would leave plenty Muslims unscathed are not the results of “mistranslations”. Almost all Islamic Republic leaders and officials, beginning with Khomeini to this day in various ways have threatened the existence of the sovereign state of Israel. The Israeli ultra conservative cabinet member threat of a devastating RETALIATORY attack against Iran is reprehensible and being chastised more than any place else in Israel by Israeli mass media and general public. The line that some pursue by calling it “rhetorical” threat might pull the wool over some but denying it out right will not.

Demagogue!

Eskandar,
For better comprehension, read the article very carefully several times or get some help from a native speaker. Her's what Ben-Eliezer says:

"An Iranian attack would result in a harsh Israeli reaction that would cause the destruction of the Iranian nation," Ben-Eliezer said during the exercise, according to a statement from his office. "They are definitely aware of our power."

He is only saying that IF IRAN ATTACKED ISRAEL, Israelis will respond by destroying Iran. If you don't believe my interpretation, get some help!

He is probably reacting to Ahmadinejad's frequent statements as to wiping Israel off the map of the world, while at the same time trying to bolster Israeli military personnels' morale.

Also stop lying about Ahmadinejad's threats against Israel being mistranslated.

i completely agree with you

i completely agree with you. if israel kills and destruct a whole "nation" that's not genocide, but if ahmadinejad says israel should be "wiped off the map" thats anti-semtism and discrimination. also ahmadinjead only said this quote once not "several times"...

i think the west + israel are promoting "iranophobia".

mazfayaz

War of words

These kind of war of words have become common. I don't care what Ahmadinejad says and certainly don't give a damn about Israeli cabinet minister, who is really nobody, saying his views. Generally Iranians are not as tattle tell as Israelis are.

He says if Iran attacks Israel, knowing well that Iran will not. He better remember who he is and where he comes from, and things in that little country will not always be the same.

With talks like this, a nationalist such as myself (As much as I hate to be one) thinks nothing is better for Iran than THE bomb. I believe if every country in the ME has one, we will be in peace! This sadly sounds true to me.