rosie is roxy is roshan

The Nukes

Don't make things complicated. Things are more simple than you think. How could the west trust Iran to have Nukes when you have a country called the Republic of Islam which supports terror and promotes suicide bombing. This theocracy is not afraid to unleash Nuclear bomb because any retaliation against it would be labeled as Martyrdom by the republic of Islam. In other words the Iranian govt will not be afraid of any consequences because any retaliation against it will be an honor for them which will send them to heaven in their simple mind.

Thanks a lot,

I'll look at it tomorrow.

PS Who has time, are you kidding? People spend hours and hours a day here. But I think the report'll more than do for now. :oD

This is the latest report by

This is the latest report by IAEA:

Implementation of the NPT Safeguards
Agreement and relevant provisions of Security
Council resolutions 1737 (2006), 1747 (2007),
1803 (2008) and 1835 (2008) in the Islamic
Republic of Iran
Report by the Director General

//www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2...

Yes, you're right, it was..

Niki and it seems the reason I couldn't search it here is that she deleted it, she doesn't have any blogs under her account from before last spring. I don't understand why people do this.

I read your link. It is really weird, this guy was so "westernizd." Well it's by no means unheard of for Western guys to flip out when their wives leave them and kill them...but they don't usually do it by beheading. I guess his sense of masculinity (power) was so damaged he went ballistic and went "hyperpatriarchal" on her (remember that word I coined in the Hiroshima blog--fundamentalist movements reacting to the horrors of modernity by trying to hide in a mythologized hyperpatriarchal past?...guess beheading ust about qualifies--yep he definitely lost it and went hyperpatriarchal, it's like going postal with a very large box cutter...)

The incident I was talking about involved a Lebanese (not Egyptian) singer who was living in Dubai and it was last fall. The accused murderer is a hugh mogul in Egypt and friends with the President's son and whatnot, the trial has been in Egypt and it was a big stink, there was a big cover-up, and interestingly some have called it an "honor" killing too, although they weren't married and he just had a thing for her real bad and couldn't "have" her, so he "got" her instead.  It seems she was not beheaded although I was certain she had been, but rather grossly disfigured on the face...sorry, gorey, but here is the link with more links, focusing on the corruption aspects more than the sensationalist ones.

//archive.gulfnews.com/indepth/suzan/index.html

Flight 1395 Non-Stop to Waziristan is boarding

You are talking about the talented and witty Nikki Tehranchi's article about those fundamentalist sex lovers Ahmadinjead and Coulter. 

If you want to marry your Mooslim husbands from now on, please make sure to wear an Iron turtle neck. It's like you need a chain link shirt too.

Also have you seen the pope lecturing Nancy Pelosi on abortion?! HA! Nazi Shmazi...... but abortion! A-B-O-R-T-I-O-N!!!! Shit! Some women must really hate babies if they are having abortions. Systematic genocide I tell ya. There's a hitler in all of us. 

//www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5...

I agree with you about those kinds of meaningless debates

(not a reference to Mehrmaz, though..) If you look at the article on the nukes that's featured which I posted on I am very specific about this. I want specific answers about the issue of "transparency" that was brought up. They are just slinging a bunch of mud and it was very childish. But I knew someone would come to my rescue and it was Mammad. Whatever you may think of him ideologically, one thing you can't say is that his thoughts aren't thoughtful and documented and that he doesn't try to stick to the issue at hand. 

You take care, I'll read the articles later today.

R.

Reply to Rosie

Thanks Rosie.  I am very interested in a potential article on this issue. 

The reason I am not really interested in getting into "shotgun" discussions is that they are essentially a waste of time for me.  That was part of the trouble with the Gaza debates.  One person would say something about Israel invading Gaze and someone else would respond with a comment about Ahmajinedad supporting Hamas then someone else would talk about apartheid and someone else would talk about Adolph Hitler killing Jews.  The comments were usually extremely broad over generalizations and stereotypes.  Essentially, those debates were a waste of time, very time consuming and left everyone angry.  I personally just don't have time to get into meandering debates. 

David, this thread..

has branched out in numerous directions, I think it is fine so blow with the wind if you wish. I haven't read either of the articles you gave me yet but I will do it tomorrow. I read the current feed on the nuclear issue and started on that thread too. Lots of arguinng going on but I did finally get a good reply from Mammad so I will divide the time between reading your article and continuing the dialog w/him and whoever else hops on board (as long as they're not bickering w/me...LOL)

Later,

r

Mehrnaz

Who said I am not concerned about it. I haven't addressed it because it is not the topic of this thread.  You are merging complex issues which are impossible to address adequately in a single thread. 

You wrote: "More to the point, why is Israel not joining the NPT and giving up its illegal stockpile of nuclear weapons? And why are you not concerned about that rather than Iran's insistence on its right to legal energy production?"

Rosie

This is what she is talking about. 

//news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090216/us_nm/us_bridgestv_murder

Taliban..

should've been overthrown by a cooperative military effort worldwide spearheaded by the UN the day they took over. It is probably the one thing virtually every country in the world could've agreed on. They are horrendous. They not only don't allow women to leave the house unaccompanied, they PAINT THE WINDOWS BLACK so no one can see them The Dari Persian women of Kabul who were quite modernized and many of whom were professional had a very high suicide rate under the Taliban. They are beyond loathsome.

Needless to say they were created by the joint efforts of the US and Saudi Arabia.

Regarding your marriage to Bin Laden, when you mentioned Ann Coulter a few weeks ago (I think it was actually in reference to your new friend NOIZ Serious) I looked all over the site to find this satire last year on Ahmadinejad marrying Ann Coulter but I couldn't..well you can marry Bin Ladin and she can marry Mahmood and I can marry...oh forget it. LOL

PS I'm not sure which producer you're talking about who cut off his wife's head?? There was an Egyptian mogul a few months ago who got this really gorgeous famous singer's head cut off because he couldn't have her...I'm pretty sure that was Egypt...are you talking about something I missed? Those Taliban will behead anyone, I'm sure they are behead-happy.

I am terrified of the Taleban.

Have you seen these people? I mean really have you seen them? They were on the f-ing NY Times front page yesterday. How is it, that those assholes are one assassination away from being nukular packing and Iran is in the cross hairs? 

Ey baba! This is insanity. Rosie if Israel wants to be an ally, I would love for them to take one for the team and blast the Taleban. I'm serious too..... ZION serious. Have you seen the producer who cut his wife's head off? Jesus Fak! If I am sounding irrational (more than usual), it may be that I have a flu.

TOMORROW I will resume my lusting for the Taleban if my Zicam nettle pot works. Also, I will log onto priceline.com and book a one way to Waziristan to get betrothed to Bin Laden. Join us! I'll bring my ipod full of Pete Townsend and we can teach Osama how to drive a stick shift and eat tacos!  

Marge, I was going to hypothesize what Mehrmaz just

articulated knowledgeably below. The things which you say are priorities for Iran right now such as imroving refineries, phone lines, and so forth would depend upon an intensive general power source and unfortunately in the present state of affairs that would be nuclear. I had a newsfeed yesterday that I had to delete because I didn't want to hog the feeds and other more important ones came up, but it was about how IRI had JUST completed computerizing its judicial system. Can you imagine? (I called it "Shariah geeks' ha ha). As you probably know IRI is also very advanced in certain areas of medical/scientific reserach such as stem cells.

So it seems IRI does want to modernize (everything from telephones to medical research, etc)..., and it is will obviously be a long-term program (hopefully by the time it's done there will be more reasonable people in power..) and nuclear energy would lay the foundation for that. As for the electric cars, well...you know I'm with you on that one.

Another thing you have to remember about the nuclear plants is PRIDE. National pride. IRI needs to make its citizens proud of them somehow because there is so much not to be proud of (need I elaborate?) But even people who loathe the regime I understand take great pride in the nuclear advances and Omid and so forth whether the phones work or not. It is a big rallying point. As well, IRI needs to make the region proud of it as "the little engine that could.." from that day back in 1979 to thirty years later. If other countries don't look up to them technologically they lose their position as a major player in the region and also the Revolutionn loses credibility. Especially when as you point out, a country like Pakistan with Taliban controlling a region and political assassinations and lousy food and music LOL has not only nuclear energy but nukes.

I did not know about the Saudis and alternative fuel. What an irony! But my guess would be that despite the costs and time and geopolitical complications involved in gong nuclear, looking at the long view it is the only way to fuel the other technological programs IRI has in mind. And it appears they are getting help from Russia so it wouldn't be that long (although I just read something about Russia back-pedalling???) if West would stop hounding them.

In a perfect would we'd all be working together on solar, wind, hybrid, organic, water-powered fuels, etc. globally but this is not a perfect world...not yet :o)  Very transitional times, very transitional times.

xxx

r.

PS Interestingly one of the OTHER major problems that Iran has, the drug problem, will probably be what eases the tension on the nuclear issue (IMHO as a feeder these days..) The US and Iran need each other very very badly to rout the Taliban. 

DW Duke, "why doesn't Iran buy its nuclear energy"?!

Iran does not buy its nuclear energy because nuclear energy, currently as the only viable energy alternative to dwindling fossil fuel, is the energy market of the future. Iran needs to sell its gas and oil resources as a major source of revenue and with a growing population its energy demands are fast surpassing its fossil energy capabilities. If Iran gives up its right to nuclear energy production, not only can it not meet its domestic energy needs, it will lose crucial revenue, and it will endanger its future sovereignty by becoming a pray to nuclear energy cartels or whims and vagaries of the world bullies. That is why.

More to the point, why is Israel not joining the NPT and giving up its illegal stockpile of nuclear weapons? And why are you not concerned about that rather than Iran's insistence on its right to legal energy production?

How about a security pact or

How about a security pact or a peace pact between Israel, IRI, and the US mediated by the UN?

Would the IRI accept such a proposal? Would the IRI be willing to solve its issues with Israel, diplomatically?

I guess, the IRI has to first recognize Israel as a nation. Would IRI agree to do that to avoid an eventual war?

IRI should not have nuclear

IRI should not have nuclear weapons.

it’s the same reason it’s okay for the police to have guns but not criminals.

Iran is an Islamic dictatorship who is essentially Russia's proxy in the ME to destablize American's interest in the region. Why would the US allow Russia to get away with this??

Mr Khameni, apparently, was trained under Putin.

//www.akhbar-rooz.com/news.jsp?essayId=19495

The legality or right's of Iran and Iranians to nuclear weapons and nuclear power have never been an issue.

I think the NPT was signed under the Shah. IAEA should kick Iran out of the NPT because a terrorist country like Iran should not be part of either UN or NPT.

one thing i hate about the US

mentality is the "if i can't see it, it isn't there".  everyone was oh so concerned when gas prices started going up.  but as soon as they started going back down, here come the big ass gas guzzlers out in full force.  we seem to have this attitude that it's our right to own the biggest baddest toy in the neighborhood without any regard for the effect it has on the entire world.  i almost think that the auto mess is a good thing if it gets rid of the worst offenders.  but nooooo.  they get rid of the saturn!  the humvee is still truckin' along. 

marge.  penis envy.  it always boils down to penis envy.

(sorry for derailing...:-( 

small issue i have with Iranian Nukular Thirst

There are MUCH more important issues in Iran. I do think they have the right to nuclear ANYTHING because well, if Pakestan can have them with their dog awful food and dance, Iran sure as hell should at the very least have bone blasting nukulars.

I think they should 1.make the phone lines work. I know this is asking a lot in 2009, but just a request.

I think they should consider building more refineries for gas or maybe even electric cars. It hurts me that Saudis are ahead of Iran on finding alternative fuels. Iranians are way better. Yes I have superiority complex, but after 9-11 and Saudis trying to kill me, I am OK with it :) 

Formerly Green, it's a-comin'. I do think so...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZtQh5EIgWQ

Blue, yes I discussed that in my Hiroshima blog, I

called it Big Dick Technology which has reached a point of inflection where we either transcend patriarchy or all die.  Not of nukes though I don't think so but of every conceivalbble toxiicity and resource shortage imaginable.

The cockroaches will however be fine.

Creature "feature", if ya get my drift..lol

Penis Problems - Lots of Penis issues going on here

You know kids in the playground/locker room/ court/ whatever have to brag somehow. These nukulars are like dicks. The more and the bigger the better. Iranians have been busy screwing their own country that they are finally ready to catch up with this nukular competition. 

Why does ANYONE need them? It's just another penis problem.

why not indeed!

cause it's for sure that when it comes to money, every single nation would sell its grandmother to make a buck.  wouldn't it be a gas if it were the israeli's who sold it to them....LOL.

EDITED to add:  rosie, i couldn't agree with you more.  why the hell are we not utilizing the most obvious energy power that already exists!!!!!!!!!!!

AlF /Alb, DW (end)

AnonFish: Actually to clarify what I said, it was that in the long view nuclear ENERGY should become obsolete as it is dangerous and for sure ALWAYS will be. As well as "dirty" energy. As for the bombs, of course, no one should have them, but the dangereous were the individual groups (not countries) who got their hands on the materials when the Soviet Union collapsed. I truly do not beliee any nation state will use these weapons (not the large scale ones). everyone knows they will destroy the whole human species. Ever North Korea which I believe is far more psycho wacko than IRI actually, knew this perfectly well. Far too close to Hiroshima not to remember despite the megalomania of that Jong guy.

I(t is of interest to note that the leaders of the freeze movement are now people like Kissinger. the general public. Obvously want to clear their consciences in the autumn of their lovely years).

The US has I don't know HOW many more nuikes thatn all the other countries put together and until they cooperate fully in t e freeze,including satellite Israel,  this may sound funny to you but the more the merrier as far as nation states ar concerned IMHO. Balance of power, autonomy (pride) for third world countries, more stand-off. India and Pakistan nuclear face-off: dog and pony show. Cuban Missile Crisis: Like fun anyone was going to nuke anyone less than twenty years after Hiroshima.

The thing that unites our apparently diametrically opposed views here is the desire for peace That's a lhelluva lot ot of common ground.

I wrote a long post under my Khatami news feed (current) which could help you understand better my position on balance of power and how the nukes play into it.

DW, Alb.  Yes Alborzi I am curious to know why you say it has not been proven taht Iran supports Hamas and Hezbollah. I thought Taliban and the various Iraqui factons no but Hamas and Hezbollah yes.

Reply to Fish

I would like to see a day when nuclear weapons are outlawed everywhere in the world.  Unfortunately, that will be a little while from now but we may see someday. 

I have to ask, if Iran really wants nuclear power why do they not buy it from someone who already has it?  While every nation should be entitled to the benefits of it, why not simply buy it from a producer who is already an expert at nuclear development? 

i agree with DW

this would be a great article.  if there were civil and reasonable discourse, i think it would be extremely informative to those of us who have opinions based on "feelings" rather than "fact".  i said before (and i agree with rosie 100% in that i wish NOBODY had nukes), just because the US or israel or china has them doesn't mean that everyone should.  you can't take back what is already there and you don't give a loaded weapon to a child or a disturbed person just because.  when iran is stable and the middle east more secure... the issue should be revisited.

Alborzi

Alborzi, are you sure you want to go on record with that statement?  :)

You wrote:  "There is absolutely NO evidence of Iran working with ANY resistance groups."

Great Topic for an Article

Unfortunately, I don't have time to pour through it now, but this would a good place to start an inquiry. 

//www.iaea.org/index.html

I actually think this would be a great topic for an article if somone has time to write one.  :)

Thx for the different opinions, Alborzi, David..

but again, what I am wondering about most is how and why and when and on what specific OFFICIAL grounds announced by them  the UN decided (or pretended to decide) that Iran was specifically NOT in compliance. This would be a matter of public record and highly reported, so I think it would be easily understood, Alborzi, it's just a record of facts (except for the "pretended to decide?" part which ultimately must be conceded as speculative, no matter how compelling the arguments).

Yes, I do welcome (and need) all other input on the various related issues, DEFINTELY INCLUDING the ultimately speculative ones, and I will process them,, but my gap in the knowledge of these FACTS is what is eating at me most of all.

Its all FUD

You know when there is a new drug introduced or even the advocacy of a drug is questioned. The drug companies go on a campaign and distribute FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt). Both USA and Israel have overwhelming nuclear power. They have threatened Iran with annihilation, they have high confidence in delivering it. There is absolutely NO evidence of Iran working with ANY resistance groups. It would be mind boggling to assume Iran would give a weapon (for which it has been under sanctions for years and probably spent billions) would give it to a group and open herself to retaliation. The whole thing is just FUD and its useless trying to understand it because its FUD.

Question of Trust

It isn't only public threats that concern those opposed to Iran possessing nuclear power, it is also the degree to which a nation is perceived as a threat in the international community in large part by the state sponsorship of terrorist activities and other indicators that a given nation might be a danger.  And it isn't only Iran that is on the non-nuclear list, but also Syria, Iraq (remember the search for WMD's) and many other developing nations. 

Another factor to consider is what can be done to stop it.  The US can do nothing to stop China from its nuclear development because they are already too big and powerful.  (They could cause serious damage to other nations with the weapons they already possess.) So the focus is on preventing other nations from becoming a threat as serious as China and Russia could be if they ever began saber rattling. The more nations that acquire nuclear power the greater the risk to the security of the world. 

Interestingly, in the US nuclear power plants are privately owned but ownership comes at a high price in some cases.