Independent Iranian Trade Union movement

Roozbeh_Gilani
by Roozbeh_Gilani
18-Dec-2011
 

Thew biggest enemy of any Fascistic Dictatorship is the organised labour. Organised Labour unions in their most basic form demand job security and a fair pay in return for their members' labour. In it's advanced form, Labour unions becoms platforms of demands for revolutionary political and social changes. Fascist governments are frightened of independent labour unions and challenge them in any way possible. Islamist regime is no exception. Below a report:

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Propaganda

by religionoutofgovernment on

Roozbeh, I am a firm believer that a message should be analyzed independent of the messenager. On IC, we see a lot of good issues raised, but the authors and the people who raise the issues are attacked, instead of discussing the merrits of their arguemnts.

However, in this case it is not a matter of who is speaking but a matter of the message. There is both verbal and nonverbal contents to this video. There is no question that the message is a promotion of the same old communist, "proletaian revolution",  "the working class unite" bla bla bla, with pictures of the masses looking happy with their flags marching toward their Utopia. This is the main message of this video and yes I do think it dilutes and discredits any claim for concern for the working class!


alimostofi

RG: Yes Iran. Well done.

by alimostofi on

RG: Yes Iran. Well done. Words matter. And in action you are all Iranians first. We take care of Iran for all purposes. Culture first. Now call me a Star gazer nutter with no brains.

Ali Mostofi

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Roozbeh_Gilani

ali: I did in the title of my response, read again.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Now just for you:

Iran, Iran, Iran

Happy now? :)

 

 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Roozbeh_Gilani

"communist propaganda"??!!

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

No, I dont see it that way. Even if this was produced by some communists, what is your problem with the key message, support for independent workers unions in Iran? unless you believe all iranian workers are communists and as such deserve what they get! 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


alimostofi

RG: you never mentioned Iran

by alimostofi on

RG: you never mentioned Iran in your reply.

Ali Mostofi

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Roozbeh_Gilani

yes, they are Iranian first.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

No I dont think like a hezbollahi!

You need to understand that without massive and organised participation of the industrialised working classes in opposition movement, the islamist regime would simply not go. So support of organised working class movement is support for overthrowing the islamist regime and it's replacement with a secular democracy...

 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


religionoutofgovernment

Communist Propaganda

by religionoutofgovernment on

Roozbeh, how can you say:

 "Dont allow your dislike  of socialism to prevent you from backing the just demands of the iranian workers, asking for independent from islamist regime,  trade unions."

in response to Ali discussing socialism when you video is 1000% communist propaganda, produceed by hardcore communists, with all the communist imagery, music and the whole shabang!!! This video is not about workers, it is about promoting an ideology, ie commuism. And communism just like Islam is another ideology promising Utopia and delivering hell!! So I have to agree with Ali.

  


alimostofi

Roozbeh: Iranian workers are

by alimostofi on

Roozbeh: Iranian workers are Iranian first and workers second. Or do you think like Hezbollahis, they are workers first and Iranian second. Is ideology more important than culture?

Ali Mostofi

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Roozbeh_Gilani

alimostofi: this blog is about trade unions , not socialism.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Dont allow your dislike  of socialism to prevent you from backing the just demands of the iranian workers, asking for independent from islamist regime,  trade unions.   

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


alimostofi

Socialism is a myth worse

by alimostofi on

Socialism is a myth worse than religion. .....

I cannot believe that after all that has happened in the world, we still have people raving on about socialism. Oh that old chestnut. It was the biggest con ever. Government services do not work. Private enterprise does. There are areas where government needs to be involved but it needs to be audited. No political ideology is going to keep bad services.

Ali Mostofi

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alimostofi

Saying that you are being

by alimostofi on

Saying that you are being practical implies that you want to do something. You think that talk is cheap. But how are you going to do anything without thinking and agreeing about it first. What are you united on? Labour rights. Oh so is that within The Hezbollah Party in Iran's doctorine or something else? What happena to Iranian culture if it happens to be against your ideas?

Ali Mostofi

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Roozbeh_Gilani

Hooshang agreed again on "vahdat kalameh" thing

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

I was not around then as an activist due to my age, but the mere terminology smells of Rat. 

A united "anti fascist front", focused on achieving basic democratic rights and climate which would allow the growth of working classes unions and organisations is something I was referring to in another blog, which unfortunately got burried under the background noise of the blog......  

talk later..

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


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You're TALKING about freeing Iran, we're actually WORKING

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

towards that goal.

There's a big difference between mere talk and typing awasy in the cyber-space, and actualy having a (long-term, large-scale) plan of action and taking practicall, pragmatic moves every single day to acheive the goal of freeign the land.

It's called Praxis. Look it up.


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...

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

RG, I hadn't seen them before. Really don't know who they are, yet.

But hey, the more the merrier.

Yes the level of workers' struggles in Iran is on the rise.

Let's see what  will happen with this one.

A key mistake of the '79 Revolution was that majority of the Left kept, pushing workers' demands to the side while paying more attention to petty-bourgeoisie and non-working class elements, in the guise of a fictional 'National Unity,' and Vahdat Kalameh and all that garbage.

We shall be especially aware that such a mistake will not occure again. Workers' demands and organizations come before any other social group or formation, be they 'secular,' 'monarchist,' 'republican,' 'self-appointed socialist leaders,'....


alimostofi

We are talking freeing Iran

by alimostofi on

We are talking freeing Iran first. Once you have Iran you can think of everything. Cart b4 the horse.

Ali Mostofi

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What you 'do' in here is very irrelevant to workers' struggle

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

in Iran.

To obtain workers' basic freedoms and have a decent life is not 'utopian' but pragmatic and practical. Every civilized people in the world recognize it as such. Apparently the workers in have obtained this minimal degree of civilization. The same can not be said about others who consider acheiving workers' basic rights as Utopian. The approperiate name for that is Third World Peasantish! Dohati Jahan Sevomi.


Roozbeh_Gilani

Hooshang, ignoring the fortune tellers for a moment...

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

I was wondering What  you think of this organisation. Frankly I had the same question as you had. According to the clip 5 french workers unions are backing this organisation, and I saw something similar from UK's transport workers union a few weeks back...

I very much agree with you about the complex nature of Iran's working class movement. One thing for sure, workers protests are on  the way up at an unprecedented level and rate...

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


alimostofi

HTG: I believe the work we

by alimostofi on

HTG: I believe the work we are doing here, fending off irrelevant commentaries about utopias that have taken the Iranians off course is paramount.

Ali Mostofi

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Iranian workers have actually organized two key, independent

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

syndicates Bus Drivers and Sugar Cane workers. When there's a slightest political opening we shall see tens and hundreds of such independent labor formations in Iran.

Alimostofi, where as actvities of you and likes of yours are limited to posting notes in here, those couragoues workers have risked their lives, families and everything in their struggle to acheive theri goals and obtain their rights. 

Don't beso arrogant, ignorant, in dismising people's struggle in Iran. Educate yourself on the Workers' Movement of Iran.  


alimostofi

There is organized, and

by alimostofi on

There is organized, and overly organized as in NK. Iranians couldn't organize a pissup in brewery.

Ali Mostofi

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Roozbeh_Gilani

here is the link to the solidarity committee..

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

//icworkers.blogspot.com/2011/05/solidarity-committees-in-support-of.html

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


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Who's "Solidarity Committees with the Iranian Workers' Movement"

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

Never heard of them before.

Iranian Labor movement is a bit more complex and complicated than most other countires.

To begin with in Iran we have at least three types of Workers' Organization:

-Workers' Councils,

-Syndicates,

-Unions.

Needless to say each of these forms have therr own unique dynamics, resources and limitations.