Where Was Ali?

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Where Was Ali?
by Paymaneh Amiri
09-Dec-2008
 

In all the excitement about what happened at Iranian universities and particularly at Tehran University on Sunday, one important piece of news was somewhat lost.  During the weeks prior to the University Students Day, or "Rooz-e Daneshjoo," Iranian authorities had announced that the Supreme Leader himself would be attending the staged ceremonies at Tehran University, addressing the students (read the cheering Basijis).  The move had been planned to show the regime's control over academic space, and to drone out any voices of protest and dissent among the students.  Only 48 hours before the event, it was announced that the Supreme Leader would not be attending and that his speech had been cancelled.  The preparations for taming the potential student protests had been planned for weeks, including planting hundreds of Basiji bodies in the meeting hall on Sunday.  Even with such careful planning, the IRI authorities knew something was going to take place which could have been a major embarrassment for the Supreme Leader, were he to show up, and hence the last-minute cancellation.

After Islamic Republic's "overthrow panic" in the 1980's which led to the mass executions of political prisoners in Iran, only two other events have led to IRI's panic and temporary retreat.  One was the July 8, 1998 Tehran University events (18 Tir) in the aftermath of which the Supreme Leader delivered that frightened speech, and the other was last Sunday's retreat from a well-planned and important appearance by Mr. Khamenei.  In the absence of political parties, a viable press, and any organized voices of opposition inside Iran, the only remaining and seemingly untamable group facing the Sepaah-controlled Iranian government are the Iranian university students, armed with nothing but their youth, ideals, and courage.  Future confrontations with this group will be better-planned and even bloodier and more violent than the ones we have seen in the past.  The IRI will see no choice but this, for each round of humiliation with this fearless group only emboldens its other increasingly unhappy constituents who are already a ticking time bomb in the face of a failing economy.

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Dear Paymaneh: The plain

by fineday (not verified) on

Dear Paymaneh: The plain fact that your article has elicited such violent reactions by the supporter of the thieving and medieval regime is in and of itself a huge sucesses. Congratualtions!


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Kurush doesn't like the Tehranis

by Anonymous15 (not verified) on

and he doesn't like it when he is told instead of all the rant he should go back to the "democratic Iran". Poor baby!
And ABARMARD comment as usual is a killer: they just want to join the party and have extra few days off??!!!! They damage the property???
You always want to sound righteous but it just doesn't come out right.


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"Those who can give up

by Anonymous... (not verified) on

"Those who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."--Ben Franklin


Mehdi

Does anybody know what these "brave" idots want?

by Mehdi on

Freedom? Can somebody enlighten me as to what exactly "the government" should do to satisfy this mob? Last time I checked the government wasn't doing anything that wasn't fully supported by majority of Iranians (not Tehranis, Iranians).


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Thank you 'thought' police

by Kurush (not verified) on

for banishing me from your Utopia! Adieu! But please be sure you do not protest too much in your utopia since there is a prision-industrial complex in existence there (unbekownst to you who has your head in the sands!) which houses 2.2 millions of your fellow utopians in its gulags. About the Tehrani brats. I know them because I lived there. Been there done it. No Oghdeh just a truthful observation. I had the opportunity to live in shahrestan also, when dad was transferred there. I know that when there is war it is them, the shahrestani, who pay the price, as in the Iraq war, by their sacrifice not the Tehrani brats in Tajreesh. And when the chaos is brought about, thanks to the so-called Tehrani 'students', it would be them, not the Tehranis, who would suffer as did the people in Abadan and Ahvaz and Khormshahr. Adieu! Farewell!


Abarmard

Mr. Kurush

by Abarmard on

There are some students that are willing to give their lives for the "freedom", which these days translates to social freedom. Also there are some students that would be happy not to do the final exams or due assignments and join in to "party", in other words some are looking for any excuse to have extra few days of rest!

The government however has taken the wrong side by pushing people to limits with extensive costs such as monitoring useless dress codes and personal life styles, while there are stopped traffic in every corner of the city.

I don't think that the majority of the students are demanding the overthrow of the system, but are asking the government to loosen the grip on their personal lives, political views, and the release of the political prisoners. They also demand the equality among all citizens of Iran regardless of religion.

If these social pressure stop then the government would not evolve to a better and more mature system. If the government realizes the honesty of the simple demands, then we would witness a more civil and free Iran in the next decade or so. Generally it is a good thing to keep any system in check.

Finally, I disagree with any demands while destroying public or private properties.


IRANdokht

I'll be more than happy

by IRANdokht on

I'll be more than happy to set up a fund and ask people to help pay for a one way ticket for you to go to the Utopia you so cherish.  What are you doing living away from it?

Don't go confusing the people who gave their lives defending Iran against Saddam, with the anti-Iranian thugs who are trying to silence these young students! IRI does not own Iran and Iranians to decide not to allow people human rights and individual freedoms. Those are everyone's rights.

btw Daneshkadeh Fanni and Amir Kabir have always been the most active.  If you had ever been to the Iranian universities you would have known that the students are not all "tehrani" just because the protest is in Tehran university!!  not that being "tehrani" qualifies as the scum of the earth as you are trying to portray it. what's with all the oghdeh towards Tehrani people? 

IRANdokht


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Yes I am full of it..

by Kurush (not verified) on

I am full of anger that bunch of spoiled unemployed Tehrani, who should be using their time to learn a craft or a science, are parading as 'students' and are engaged in the overthrow of a legitimate Iraninan government. The students who helped the revolution in 78 were fighting to unseat an illegitimate US puppet. There is difference and you know it( at least I hope you do) Those 'real' Iranian youths who ran through the minefields so that Iran's main army can defeat Sadaam's meglomaniac fantasies did not want their lives to be wasted so that bunch of upper class Tehrani brats tear down what they defended by their personal sacrifice. Furthermore, please do not presume on my behalf that I live in a democrcy. If you mean America,here is my idea about America: it is a plutocratic racist police state. Last time students in America attempted to defy the ruling thugs in America, they were shot and killed. Please look up Kent State shooting, it has sobering information for such as yourself who think they are living in Utopia.


IRANdokht

are you implying

by IRANdokht on

are you implying that the iranian students should not be demanding freedom and democracy? are you saying that those are western values and iranians don't deserve them? are you condemning the young people of Iran for wanting to live in a democratic country probably like the one you live in? did you say the same thing about the academic responsibilities of the students who protested against Shah's regime too?

you're showing your own stance clearly enough. Not everybody who thinks you're full of it is a "pahlavi worshipper"! keep your labels to yourself!

IRANdokht


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To a really real Iranian

by Kurush (not verified) on

Since when you presumed yourself as the arbitor of who a 'real' Iraninan might be? Stop your 'real' arrogace to nominate yourself to be the judge of other people who do not subscribe to the 'Pahlavi worshippers' newsletter. It is a perversion of the word 'student' when these young men and women, instead of trying to be the next noble laureate in physics or medecine, are volunteering to be the tools of the Western imperialists. The Greeks fought Troy for 10 years unsuccessfully, then they pretended they are giving up and retreating and left a 'gift' , the Horse. Behold the 'real' gift to the Iranians who are busy tearing things up rather than furthering the Arts and Sciences of their country!


Abarmard

I agree to some extend

by Abarmard on

But IR is also very careful not to make the same mistake as Shah did to anger the crowd even more.


IRANdokht

kurush (however that's pronounced!)

by IRANdokht on

Please stop intellectualizing your support of the IRI regime. When you say that "Khamenei is justified in showing force"  you blow your cover!

No real Iranian would want the students who are only asking for their individual freedom and democracy to be brutalized.  The rest of the comment you wrote was just an excuse to hide your true intentions of supporting their criminal acts.

IRANdokht


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Tehran University Student Protest

by Kurush (not verified) on

Stop galmourizing bunch of green naive young men who have no idea what fierce geopolitical game is being waged by the West for the control of the world markets and resources in which these gullible young men and women serve as only pawns and stooges. Stop this immature and stupid game of trying to destablize your homeland even as the West' military vanguard are on the very doorsteps of your motherland. The sad truth about the Iranains such as these is twofold: first, they do not know when healthy dissent stops and when treason begins, when the dissident turns into a taitor to the fatherland; second, they take temselves as perfect specimen of knowledge and defenders of liberty whereas they are nothing but fools duped by the Western propaganda and Western agents about to throw open the gates of Iran to Western exploiters and imperialists and in the process to degrade their nation and its history once again as the Qajars did. Shame on them. They are the West's Trojan Horse. Khameni is justified in showing force majeur if they go to far.


IRANdokht

thanks Paymaneh

by IRANdokht on

The students are always the first and the most determined in exposing and opposing dictatorial governments around the world. Our young and brave students are the hope for the future and for our people. I hope the rest of the Iranians join in. 

your last few lines brought tears to my eyes. very well said.

IRANdokht


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Official Iranian media were

by sickofiri (not verified) on

Official Iranian media were up to their usual tricks with Students Day upon them, as well as another anniversary of the 1999 student protests in Tehran that sparked a violent crackdown.

State media like Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) branded the hundreds of pro-democracy students marching at Tehran University in the center of the capital on December 7 a "militia group" and an "illegal branch of the Office to Foster Unity" (Daftare Tahkim Vahdat, Iran's largest reformist student organization). It accused participants and "pseudo-students" of exploiting the anniversary to "create mayhem."

IRNA also managed a creative spin to low-ball attendance and quash perceptions of public sympathy for the pro-democracy crowd:

"The savage moves and insulting slogans of this small group were so bizarre that the lecturers, students, and passersby stopped to watch their violent behavior."

As you might expect, IRNA felt more kindly disposed toward the "university students and seminaries" protesting Islamic and international silence over events in Gaza.

How many participants at those rallies? "Large numbers." Go figure.

//www.rferl.org/Content/Pseudo_Students_And_T...


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Young Iranian Heroes!

by Maryam Hojjat on

I am so proud of them.  I hope soon all the Iranians join them and show their solidarity to free Iran from hands of these OBASHES.