Vasspaan

Not necessarily SAG...

Roman Catholicism is the LARGEST DENOMINATION within Christianity with a membership of Approximately 1 BILLION members. And they are VERY Anti Homosexual and ANTI Homosexuality

Sag's koochooloo's false allegations

Covenant , NUR , Zulfiqar110 , Badi19 , Ravian Bilani and more!

NUR, Zulfiqar110 and this handle are I. The others are someone else. Sorry to burst your bubble again. But you have made this allegation before without an iota of evidence and fallen flat on your face. Yet like Hitler's BIG LIE, you keep repeating it.

Also, sophia is his solicitor .

Yes, she is. And you also live in Australia yourself :)

Ari/Larry

Please email your kneck of the woods at the Baha'i World Centre in Haifa as well. Their email is secretariat@bwc.org. Please let us know what they say.

Larry-san, good to see you here, bro! ;-)

Ugandan Bahai contact info

Thank you, dear Marge and Midwesty

It is good to see that there are others besides myself who see what is going on here. Please consider the following words of Professor Juan R.I. Cole who had a falling out with this organization beginning in 1996 (the same year I formally left this organization as well):

Professor Juan Cole, February 23, 1999:

//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole71.htm

KY Jelly remaining market

Its good to know that KY Jelly still got a market in the Ugandan Shi'ite bazars.

To my knowledge Christianity

To my knowledge Christianity is the most tolerant with homosexuality. There are gay priests in the UK, but they are not allowed to be actively gay . But orientation is not discriminated against.

All religions have their problems

You can not solve the issue of religion and by nature all religions are discriminatory. My take is that if you are gay, there is almost no religion in the world that would accept you as a member. So the best way is to create your own religion and worship something you like and you will be fine. At the end of the day religion is about people who think, act and behave the same way.
The problem however starts when religion starts to interfere in other people's life and that is where I draw a line. If you don't like my ideas, that is fine but don't tell me how to live and act. If you do, then we will have problem with each other.

Hello Faryarm, Baha'i

Hello Faryarm,

Baha'i discriminatory religious practices to do with homosexuality is not even denied by Baha'is themselves Faryarm. It is a Baha'i religious practice to remove the administrative rights of any Baha'i who is revealed to be openly gay. As well it is openly admitted by the Baha'i powers that be that they fully believe that the sexual orientantion of gay people can be cured. This is not only non-scientific it is ludicrous and medievil thinking.

I suggest that if you are truly interested in the official Haifan Baha'i UHJ's stance on it's Ugandan  followers promotion and approval of Ugandan antigay laws that you contact them directly and see what you get for an answer.

Cheers

Larry Rowe

ok baba sag kuchulu whatever you say is right

in the name of jesus RAMEN! 

anyway you brought it back to me and how everything is a secret plot and bla bla bla. you're just like this blogger who you hate so much. everything is a conspiracy.

ok. i'm bad. i'm wrong. you guys are righteous and marvelous. goodbye =) see you in hell, where it is macarena 24/7. 

Anti-gay laws are dumb

You can't stop nature.

And it's really dumb to take away condoms and put in abstinence-only. Their HIV rates will be sure to increase, not to mention unwanted pregnancies.

I like what NYC homeboy Weiner said in the video. And I like the fact that Sweden is threatening to remove financial aid to Uganda over this horrid law that's soon to be voted on.

I'm surprised to read that Ugandan Shi'ite Isma'li are holding out against this law. Are they more Progressive than Iranian Shi'ite Isma'li?

Thanks for the lecture Marge

You are way off the mark and making a lot of judgments without knowing full facts. And you are quite manipulative with your remark about bahais as well.

" i don't like bahai because of how the bahais treat this lone blogger. bahais and this young religion of theirs claims to have reinvented the wheel (at least wheels are useful!!!) and look how similar a path they follow. Yuck. "

This comment certainly says a lot more about you than bahais. You really like to research before blurting out your conclusions don't you? Sounds a little lazy and ignorant. You may not like religion, but you sound quite disrespectful and this is what does not sit well with tolerant people.

Honestly I do not think this guy is worth the time for more discussion so I'll leave you to it.

Marge,

I like your point but don't like your tone. What the psychologists say? People first notice the the body language, then tone then..the WORDS.

Sorry guys I talked too much...I am snowed in today so...I have more time than usual.

i don't care what your religion of choice is

it's when you claim to be one of them and defend them, and end up attacking a person who criticizes a religion. 

when religions preach tolerance, bahai INCLUDED, why do you need to post pictures of this blogger, post his country of residence, his name, etc....?? i'm sorry but that is more Islamic Republic than I could ever dream of being.

Bahai, Islam, Hebrews...... all defunct. all fake. all empty promises and intolerance. It's how you treat those you disagree with that counts. when you attack them like you have this man, who you keep repeating is mentally ill (definitely possible, and it sounds like the deens have done a number on his brain) and still attack him relentlessly, what does that make you? a better people? HA!

i don't hate bahai because of nima. i don't like bahai because of how the bahais treat this lone blogger. bahais and this young religion of theirs claims to have reinvented the wheel (at least wheels are useful!!!) and look how similar a path they follow. Yuck. 

Please let go of religion. Please look to basics of emotion and love, not bearded old men who claim to be wise and knowing. there is a great episode of three's company about this.

SK jan,

I appreciate the information you are providing and it will help me and other readers to come to a conclusion quicker.

I don't think anyone appreciate the name calling. Let's remember insulting people takes its tolls and the first person is paying that is the insulter him/herself.

I might be able to hide from others behind a nickname but I can't hide from myself.

Best Regards,

Midwesty jan

You are one of the nicest and well informed people here on IC. I do not want to respond to individual who keeps calling people "fool" every minute, this was more for you to see where others are coming from. The history of this person's selective propoganda against bahais. Kind regards.

Ali jan, Marge said better than I could...

The point is to find the truth...I remember reading one of Sherlock Holmes books. He came across a suspect that lied all along but at the end Holmes caught the guy...He asked Holmes how did you find the truth while I was lying, he said...I just needed you to talk.

SK jan,

The time has changed. If you go to one of these communication seminars, when they talk about website writing, they say:

Do it in small package, precise, to the point with facts because the Internet readers are not your average paper-based media readers. They know what they are looking for and want it fast.

Sorry, I fall in the same category. I have no time to research his character but have just enough time to see what he is saying and click on his links. So when I do that I see for myself what he is saying matches the links that he provided. Simple as that.

lol!!!! it's not about learning! it's HIS VIEW!

what you aren't understanding is that no one will read NUR's blog and say "oh this is ALL what bahahi is about." you guys are so paranoid that you won't let him have his simple defection, bashing moments. Why? whyyyy? 

If you don't see the value in the doubt presented by Herod or the actions of Judas, you are just a fool.  

that is the POINT Midwesty...

He does not stick to the facts...

From what I understand Bahais consider him to be a covenant Breaker..

Let me ask you a question....

Would you learn more about Christianity from Judas Iscariot ,Pontius Pilate and King Herod or Jesus Christ and his Apostles????

Midwesty

Perhaps you should look at his other posts under different IDs that were blocked and see that this has a history. This is not an attack, but to put it into context for you. If you do a SEARCH of the names you will see the blogs and their contributions.

Covenant , NUR , Zulfiqar110 , Badi19 , Ravian Bilani and more!

Also, sophia is his solicitor .

Wow people,

This is the first blog that I am reading from Nur and what I see is this:

A guy is bringing facts and bunch of others are attacking his character....wasn't it the new Iranian.com policy to remove the vicious attacks on the writer's character?

Nur,

As long as you stick to the facts, being biased or not doesn't matter, we hear you and we see how people treat you.

Thanks buddy! I look forward to your next blog.

Regards,

Nur-i-Azal the Basij Obfuscator is at it again

you need to give up your private little war you have against the Bahai's

you do need to get a life....  try raising flowers 

or in your case I'd start with any plants of the family Cactaceae 

just say it. why do you dance around what you say?

say it clearly. what is the "real marge?" Am i an agent of anti bahai ? agent of iri? agent of what???? just f-ing say it! don't dance around. i did not edit it for my convenience. i am hated more than anyone else here. 

and i would. if i had enough money, i'd send them lots of copies of god delusion. i think this is fascinating that religions set themselves up as havens of charity and good will for vulnerable people - ESPECIALLY in the third world or war torn (Iran is good at this in Palestine) and then when you question them, they dump you and abandon you.

Nur is not your enemy, fool. he's just some guy on the internet. like me. either you are so sensitive that you can't handle it, or you would rather attack me by saying i'm agent 008 009 and need to be "outed". answer the problem about religion instead of attacking people. maybe then you'll get him to stop posting his blogs. 

yea i'm a biiiiig secret and you are right

you should totally analyze my writing in such a way. good. 

i happen to like it when people bash religions. not people involved. i think bahai is fraud. islam is fraud. and the rest of them ALL. by the way, I have a little extra feelings toward bahai and scientology because even after all the bs of the three major religions, these two religions come along and scoop an extra topping of bs for the masses. 

anyway it's a genius plot for the leaders of these religions, and i don't see anything wrong with Nur's comment that the vatican style leadership of this organization if corrupt. if what he says is true, IF, and the leaders are messengers of god and to disagree with them makes you banished from the bahahi organization, that is seriously fudged up.

i don't know why anyone cares. the mormons kick people out every day too. human beings are prisoners until they get rid of these religions and empty faiths. 

wait a minute... just to be clear

are you saying the bahais will support this bill because they hate gays OR because they want to keep their cozy spot in uganda? 

i thought evangelicals HATE the bahais. i remember the US christian evang. totally telling ministries to beware of these frauds. not that they themselves are less fraudulent, but i'm using their words. 

Marge/ Agent whatever

We are laughing. It is interesting that you said "you are doing something right", so we can see you for what you really are behind the cute avetar.

And thanks for editing your comment to add this to make it more acceptable 

" it's not that I agree with you, it's just that you say something against religion, which is your right, and they get so upset. 

there is no difference between this religion and the others. i am grateful for your explanation of the leadership of bahai. lol "pope and vatican rolled into one." if i were rich, i'd send boxes and boxes of the god delusion to their offices in haifa.  "

lol

nur you get these people so angry. you must be doing something right. just be careful you don't end up in the scientology style hit job. it's not that I agree with you, it's just that you say something against religion, which is your right, and they get so upset. 

there is no difference between this religion and the others. i am grateful for your explanation of the leadership of bahai. lol "pope and vatican rolled into one." if i were rich, i'd send boxes and boxes of the god delusion to their offices in haifa.  

"incredibly dangerous your organization "

I am an ATHEIST. And the more I see the likes of you, zionists and IRI the more I know I came to the right decision.

I like Anvar because he is a nice person. The kind of logic your prejudiced mind cannot comprehend. But dont give up the day job, in your case Religion. You demonstrate how Religion can spread prejudice and hate.

Someone else said to you that you can write anything you want on IC but you cannot force people to like it. The penny has not dropped. People do not like bigots and iranians want change from prejudiced views. Please do not get back with some reposte for the sake of it as you cannot convince me or anyone else, even with threats. Have a nice day.

JJ is censoring my comments

thank you for proving my point