n.zanincanadai

What goes on in the pauses

حاجئ اقا کجائی

حاجئ اقا کجائی که یادت بخیر. این صحبت تو رو میطلبه. قهر نکن و ما رو از نظرات خودت مستفیض کن. بیا بابا بیا. ببین فارسی هم برات نوشتم که دیگه ناز نکنی. اومدی ها!؟

Nazanin,  Of course men

Nazanin,  Of course men can remain virgin like women. I only was saying that since men have no hymen like women, they can not prove that they are virgin like women, so unlike women their virginity or so called sexual obstinence, remains a mistery. I also was saying that since this anatomical member; according to mentaliy of 'ancient elders of the clan', is created by god only for women and not the men; PERHAPS they started to see that only women should be accountable for sexual abstinence and not the men...and maybe the story of gender inequality starts by this and similar assumptions. Socioeconomic factors contributing in gender equality are in next level, and historically are based on physical differences between men and women.

Apparently, no bio-physical difference should be a reason for inequality. 

Vali

Without getting into a religious discussion, there are a WHOLE LOT of people who do believe in "immaculate conception".  But to respond to that comment jokingly, you most certainly can get pregnant without penetration...lol.  And there are lots of young girls (and boys) trying to convince Mom and Dad that "but Daddy, I swear I didn't go all the way". 

Ahhh... the memories of "firsts".  

Ebi... you're making me miss that old #3...lol

nazanin jan

I am not a sofisticated and educated man but if you ask me I tell you that virginity is a marketing concept made up by the parents of good and clean living girls to attract husbands. It has worked for years and years.

We had a friend - Iranian,

We had a friend - Iranian, Male , Handsome, 30-31 for whom every member of his family and friends including myself were trying to find a wife!
We were close. One day he told hubby and I
" Bubba man dokhtare bache saal e masalan aftab mahtab nadideh nemikham, chtori begam? ...nemikham... hoseleh az alf be shorou kardan yad dadan ro nadaram.
Hala hey be man dokhtare az tanoor dar oomadeh moarefi mikonan!
Dast az saram var darid, khodam peyda mikonam... "
I think in another 2, 3 years he married the girl he wanted.
I didn't meet her untill their wedding, since we had moved to another city.
She was a sweetheart.

Dear mouse.......thank you

for the explanation.

Solh va Doosti

Natalia

Bubba is an Iranian slank.

Bubba is an Iranian slank. I also kinda sorta use it like the English version, like when we called Bill Clinton a Bubba. Bubba actually means father in Farsi, like Daddy is in English.

mouse...who is Bubba?

On the definition thing, I was not aware it was a competition.

Solh va Doosti

Natalia

Nice article.

I enjoyed it. Thanks.

My definition beats your definition!

Bubba that was a joke!

Dictionary.com had the following definitions

noun

n.   pl. vir·gin·i·ties

1. The quality or condition of being a virgin.
2. The state of being pure, unsullied, or untouched.

1. The quality or state of being a virgin; undefiled purity or chastity; maidenhood.

2. The unmarried life; celibacy. [Obs.] --Chaucer.

ali reza you are not thinking clearly

Fist of all not all Iranian men think like you. And if some do they must be either narrow minded or stupid. Did you know that alot of girls who have sex before marriage can easily do operation so that when they marry, the man believes that she is virign. I personally met someone when I was 20 who did this few times, becuase she was scared of her parents whom advised her to stay virgin..These thoughts are just nonsence.

Mouse, look it up in the

Mouse, look it up in the dictionary. A virgin is anyone who hasn't had sexual intercourse.

I don't have a problem with abstinence and people are free to make choices and marry anyone they want. But I've looked into this virginity, rape, and female genital mutilation and prostitution (for school I SWEAR). And they all have an element of power in them. In all cases they are socio economic consequences. I don't know how else to put it. For Aghdas khanum's daughter, wanting to wait for marriage could be defined on the basis of love. And for Zahra khanum's son, his wanting to marry a virgin could be defined on the basis of love and "virtue". But the root of the obsession is socio economic. The reason female virginity is a big deal is because women don't earn money. When women work and make money, they usually have access to contraceptives, safe abortions, and relatively healthy sex. When they don't earn money, they don't have a voice and their bodies belong to their parents, or husbands or religion.

Virgin joke

Q: what is the definition of virgin?
A: On the verge .... but not in.

As far as male virginity, that is really never an issue. You touch and that's pretty much it. Isn't it?!

Hymen humor

Well said NC. The topic is always fascinating, although it's funny no one gives a damn about male virginity.

On a side note I wanted to share my favorite virginity joke. I'm sure many of you have heard it, but for the benefit of those who haven't:

Yeh Esfahani ro meegeeran meebaran daadgaah beh ettehaam e paareh kardan e pardeye bekaarat e yeh dokhtar.

Ghaazi hokm meedeh: 100 zarbeh shallaagh, 20 million toman jareemeh.

Esfahaniye meegeh: Hazrat e ghaazi, oon 100 zarbeh shallaagh o meefahmam, amaa oon pardeh ro baa maa metri chand hesaab kardeen?

Why men want to marry a virgin?

In summary:

Q: Why do men want to marry a virgin?
A: Because they can't stand criticism.

Saving one-self for Mr. Right

This whole virginity thing is a myth any way you look at it.

For a woman who has NO experience, sex suddenly becomes the best thing first time around? This Irani Woman on that sex documentary thread was commenting that she was asking her newly minted husband about sex on her wedding night. In such a case what is a good husband to do?! Do you claim to be very experienced or do you say, beats me, I know as much about it as you do?!

This is a no win situation for the man. If he says he is experienced, the virgin bride will say, how insensitive and what a bitch, I don't sleep around! If he says beats me and they proceed as if he doesn't know, he'll be called insensitive again and being selfish and not making me reach "orgasm", whatever that is. If a woman doesn't know, she suddenly becomes an expert on orgasm?!

So virginity becomes a liability for them. From the wedding night on, sex becomes a discussion. How to do it, when to do it, why to even bother and so on.

Men think they want a virgin until they meet one and women want to save themselves until the first man.

Perhaps they should be another class in sex education, right after the virginity class, entitled "Buyer Beware" where students learn, if you save yourself for marriage, you may end up with a bad deal that you can not easily get away from.

For virgin men, well, I don't think they need any training, do they? With them being selfish, insensitive and all! For them it is a one way street, right?!

To Vali

Vali: Wether you and I beleive God exists or was born to a virgin is irrelevant. The comment I made in my blog was to illustrate the FACT that taking on virginity from the point of view of religion is like talking to your hand. But if we assume that God DOES exist, then why the heck couldn't he be born to a virgin, he's God he can to whatever he wants.

As for the nice girls. I could be one of them you know...how can you be sure I'm not some 24 year old virgin pretending to be someone else? You could be a 69 yar old fat fart or a 19 year old nerd. What do I know, what do I care?

Get a hold of yourself Tootsie. The world isn't made of nice girls and those who sleep around. There a lot of other types of girls in between. But you probably don't get around enough to know this, or perhaps you get around TOO much. Now, let's assume that I do sleep around and the rest of the chicks on the planet are nicer. Are they stupid too? Do they get changed by a "useless" blog? It's THAT easy to influence them? If so, you better pray I don't blog about lesbianism or you'll be out of heterosexual virgins.

Persian: My dictionary defines virginity as "a person who has never had sexual intercourse." I hate to break the news to you but boys can be virgins too. It's just that it's easier to pretend they're not.

ali reza: It's ok for some men to want virgins, there's always a steady supply of women who want to save themselves for marriage. But from what I hear, some of those ladies get around a lot more than the ones who are in honest relationships. A guy friend once told me he will only marry a virgin because he won't have to work hard, she won't know the difference! Something to think about.

In places where virginity is a non negotiable pre requisite to marriage, most of the men are probably virgins too. Think of little cities in latin America or Iran. When the women can't do it, who are the men going to do it with? Mathematically there aren't enough professionals to go around. And most people never want to touch hookers. So it's fair game. It's a problem only when standards are different for women. Or when people make different choices and are punished for it. Think of our friend here Vali. People like him are the parasites of the earth. They divide humans (women are humans too) into categories based on very superficial and unverifiable things.

To Ali Reza

I'm an iranian man and didn't care my wife be virgine as I wasn't myself.

Iranian men tel themselves "openminded" as long as it is good for their pleasure. I dont call it "Open Mind" it is "selfish".

At this point I prefer Islamic guys at least they are clear in their choice.

An Iranian MAN 

Stay virgin if you want to marry an Iranian man

Believe it or not,no matter how open minded an Iranian man is,he still wants to be the only one that his wife has been with.

RE :..... Ebi: I

Yes dear,the year,place & .....

With #3 , can't help you lose your virginity!! 20 years ago,sure!!.Roll one in less than a minute ,light it & ..........your virginity!!

P.S. stay virgin on #3 all your life please!!!

best wishes

 Sexual virginity,

 Sexual virginity, biologically and anatomically can apply to women. I doubt if men had the same anatomical member such as hymen in women, their virginity would be counted as a symbol of their virtue. But this is a good question to ask and this could be the main reason why religious mentality started to set the virginity as a necessity or a social norm for women. Unfortunately, biology provides a good justification – as a god-created thingy always has a reason for the god-obsessed mind (you know, you can not go through this without mentioning religion).

But obviously in 21 century, people’s mind is beyond the territories of their body compositions and the religious interpretation of their functions.

God from virgin mother? give

God from virgin mother?
give me a break. First of all Jesus was not god. second of all no woman can have a baby without a man going into a woman.
third of all the article useless.
fourth of all if you want to sleep around go ahead, do not ry to change other girls who are nicer.

Natalia: You bet. Ebi: I

Natalia: You bet.
Ebi: I find it impossible to believe that you remember the first number 1, how cool is that. Cigarettes are something else, each one is like the first one. At least when you don't smoke them anymore. And I have no experience with number #3, I'm still a virgin!

Dear N.zanincanadai !

Thanks .(Although may not relate to your subject),but as I told you before your writings remind me of : Janis Joplin,so here I am :

I never forget:

1-The first orgasm.

2-The first cigarette.

3-The first joint.

The first two are not the same as the first time.The third one;haven't used for more than 20 years,so I can't comment on it!.

Best Wishes

I had no idea

Thanks for letting us know about the technical issues.

I really enjoyed your writing. Very well written.

Solh va Doosti

Natalia

PS Admin has informed me

PS Admin has informed me that when I put videos, I won't be able to edit the blogs. I guess it's a technical issue they'll eventually fix. For now, I'm ghahr with him.