Obama, are you with us?

Obama, are you with us?
by MOOSIRvaPIAZ
20-Oct-2010
 
  • “What do we have to do with our government?” an Iranian man asked
    loudly, after discovering to his surprise that the plane had landed on
    the Vienna tarmac. “We are becoming prisoners because of these
    disagreements between Iran and America.”  --
    WashingtonPost's - Thomas Erdbrink

  • “Our connections with the outside world are diminishing
    every day,”
    said one Tehran-based photojournalist. “It feels like we’re
    being made into another North Korea, and it’s not just our leaders doing
    this, it’s the rest of the world, too.”  -
    Global Post
  • “We’re wondering why the American government would do
    this,”
    said Mohammad Mehdizadeh, who comes from the renowned
    carpet-weaving city of Kerman and was exhibiting his wares at the
    international fair in Tehran. “These sanctions will only affect people
    in the trade. What connection does the rug business have with politics?”



These are but a few examples of how frustrated ordinary Iranians are with both the regime in Tehran and the international community. They cant do anything about the tyrants who rule them but we in the western world are supposed to be listening to the voices. Obama are you listening?

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I wouldn't call you a liar or a jerk. You believe what you believe, and you are entitled to believe whatever it is that you like.

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Borat

by mash Ghanbar on

Oh get over yourself!! if ignorance is a bliss... Whatever. No you are the one who is in an state of Ecstasy and Lunecy i might add.

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Whoa.. whoa.. Easy. "the immigrant community" is such a loaded word. And No one is siding with The law Breakers. Had i crawled Through the fence, I would hate myself and had felt the shame sooner or later too, but  then againI turn around and see that it is those like me who help buisnesses cut costs on a very wide scale, which translates into more affordability across the board for you, And i see how These buisnesses open their arm and receive those like me so warmly, that is when  I am thinking, H,mmm. This maynot be such a bad idea After all. 

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For once, I find myself in agreement with Raoul

by Bavafa on

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Mehrdad


My Name Is Borat

OMG!

by My Name Is Borat on

Did I read that correctly? NP said Obama is a fake?

Either she has suffered a head injury or there IS some sense in there after all.


My Name Is Borat

Mash

by My Name Is Borat on

If ignorance is bliss, you must be in ecstasy.

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We, as an immigrant community, should not be siding with those who circumvented the system to get here. If you crawled through a fence to come to the U.S. I have zero respect for you. And to think the same peole who said "f**k you " to the system in order to get here are going to be part of "the solution" is just plain foolish.

Show us the U.S. companies that are sitting on piles of cash, please. Because right now the ones sitting on the most cash are the Chinese to whom Obama and his cronies are beholden. Hell, even Bill Clinton was more of a centrist than this pompous jerk.


Niloufar Parsi

obama is a fake

by Niloufar Parsi on

and he has no interest in helping iran. his mission is to limit iran's power. when will you guys realise this?


afshinazad

NO BODY IS WITH US!

by afshinazad on

Weather we like it or not this is reality that never been any one either from western or eastern powers to be with us, all is about them and their national interest. we Iranian are waiting some one to cooke the meal for us and that is not going to happen, we are responsible for our own action and only we can undo the tragedy and the nightmare that we have created it. freedom is not easy to get or to order it on line, freedoms is evolvement and accepting of modernity and tollerance.what we had today in our country is demand and need for freedom with no real action and I don't belive we could get the freedom with asking politely or by magic, freedom must be earnd just the way you earn your income and with no violence or pain there is no freedom, because Iran is not INDIA or south africa or any other examples you want to give me because we are dealing with cleric and religion fascist regime which does not understand peace or tolerance , in religion only one thing exists either my way or the highway. we have say when cleric is riding the donkey there is no way he will get off the donkey either donkey sould die or the cleric. we could talk about all the about what the regime is doing and not fighting for what you want it is not a progress, it is complaining and people like SARGORD PISSend will call us popet of jews and american and yet he forgets that who are his masters and who put them in power, often some people like him are paid writers with no brain and some are lost soles who are living with f**** 7th century BS.

WE ARE SMART AND EDUCATED PEOPLE AND I WONDER WHY WE ARE SO MUCH HUNGRY FOR POWER AND CLOSE OUR EYES AND CONTINUE WITH LIVING FROM LAST 31 YEARS WITH SAME BS AND NEVER PLAN FOR TOMORROW AND ALWAYS FORGET WHO WE ARE AND WHAT ABOUT TOMORROW.

NO ONE WILL KNOCK YOUR DOOR IF YOU ARE HIDING YOURSELF FROM WORLD AND NO ONE WILL KNOW YOU EXIST IF YOU DON'T RAISE YOUR VOICE AND SHOW YOURSELF TO WORLD.    


mash Ghanbar

Borat

by mash Ghanbar on

ahhh. You are so sweet... man you are making me Blush all the way, look at youu...

You are citing one bold lies after lies, knowing full well that one person can not make changes by himself. especially in a system where Congress must put an stamp of approval on everything. SO despite the fact that i know and remember the content of his speech while he was still candidate-obama, i think that such assertions are being deliberately taken on their face value, just to bring him down.

I can show you an example of what he has done and also what he has in store for the futue, but let's not fool ourselves, because what might look positive to me might be far from it for you. So you are not gonna hold me to it and put me on spot here.
He said he is going to make fundamental changes to the health care and he delivered. It was a long and hard-fough battle but it got passed. Was it positive? Too soon to tell and it ALL depends on whom you ask,. But it definitely is a change, since under the Former so called health care plan, there were millions who were left uninsured and insurance companies could have done all they wanted to. they could have denied coverage all they wanted to.

Immigration is another one. Albeit for the future. It is a well - known fact that that illegals if they are put on a path to citizenship and granted Temp. work permits, can undoubtedly contribute to a solution to our financial problems, including deficit, social security, at least partially.

I am not making any particular assumptions on your political affiliation. But when you criticize The dems. and Obama as harshly as you do Then what the hell else am i supposed to think that you are supporting? The communist party in Slovakia? how many other choices have we got besides the dems, other than the Republicans , the greens, and the Tear partiers?

True, They can in theory can do what they please, But what they care is implementing the spirit of bipartisanship and that is why the battle over health care was dragged as long as it was. That is anothet thing that obama had promised and by golly, To govern from the center and by golly he is doing his hardest to please all who stand in his way and actually govern from the center,

Consumer confidence is a measure that fluctates periodically and you can not pin this on him. it maybe at its lowest level, the same as it was prior to GW's departure which even he had to come out and make a public appeal for people to go out and spend to those lousy stimulus checks.

 Unemployment is high simply because companies are sitting on top of a pile of cash without having any urge to spend it on hiring or servicing their current employees.

My life would have been much better if Right-wingesr were not being such pricks and stand in the way of some of his specific proposals.

I hope you get your wish of whomever it is you want to see at the top. Really man. even if you think Eminem... or Rapper JZ or even J LO can do the Job. More power to ya.


Dr. X

They cant do anything about

by Dr. X on

They cant do anything about the Tyrants that rule them? I beg to differ...what did they do in 1979? I know circumstances are different and it will not be easy as this regime is far more brutal than the dictatorship of 1979, but history as shown in Iran once a regime has lost its legitimacy with its own people it is only a matter of time before their downfall.


My Name Is Borat

Mash

by My Name Is Borat on

Clearly you do need to review what Obama has said, because he made many bold statements regarding how he was going to change this country for the better and how everything was going to be a breath of fresh air.

Well, show me one example of just such a positive change, please.

Don't assume that I am either a Republican or a Tea Party follower.

The GOP's minority status plays a tremendous part in this by virtue of simple grade school arithmetic. They are outnumbered by the Democrats who control Capitol Hill and Pennsylvania Avenue. That means that for the most part they have the ability to do as they please.

Do I expect miracles? No. But it's no exaggeration to say that while things were lousy before, they have become dramatically worse since he has arrived. Unemployment is at more than 10%. And that's just for openers. Consumer confidence is virtually non-existent.

But if the impact on your life has been positive as a result of this guy, then God bless you and may you be eternally happy, because I'm happy for you.


mash Ghanbar

You are not getting this are you?

by mash Ghanbar on

You are doing a good job of Pontificating yourself. No need for me to go back and review what obama has said.

What does GOP's minority status have to do with this whole thing? Is this a dictatorhip system or what? Are you saying the The dems need to shove things through simply becasue they are at the top, and since that has not been the case, so he has done nothing to improve anyone's life? Whoes life has not improved? Yours? Have you run an official survey to make such assertions with such confidence???

Yes, Obama has done some things, even though they may not sit well with some. I never said that i believed in santa clause or miracles. If you insist on exaggerating and make things worse than they are, That is your proragative too.

I hope you will get  your newly elected tea party, die-hard republican, with absolute majority in house and senate both and we will see Then what you will be complaining about, Hope Lives will have been improved within precisley 6 months after they take over.


My Name Is Borat

Mash

by My Name Is Borat on

As Obama's party has held the majority in both houses of Congress since he took office, blaming old fart dumbass conservatives is a feeble excuse for an excuse. The GOP has been the clear minority and yet still there is nothing Democrats have done to improve anyone's lives.

Obama has done absolutely nothing other than pontificate and point fingers. If you want to believe otherwise, that's your perogative. But the fact remains that there's no such thing as Santa Claus or The Easter Bunny, and Obama is an impotent leader.


My Name Is Borat

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by My Name Is Borat on

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Raoul1955

The manner

by Raoul1955 on

In which the article is presented gives the notion that Iranians are totally dependent on the outside world in general, and on the US in particular for any change in their society.

For a nation to grow culturally and intellectually, the change must come from within and not from without.  Of course the change will result in people being killed, imprisoned, tortured, fill in the blank... 
Freedom and growth require bloodshed and thoughtful planning, impulsiveness and irrational actions do not bring about a progressive change.    Didn’t Iranians overthrow a secular regime over three decades ago based on their irrational thinking and impulsiveness?

The more a person or a nation depends on the external elements for change, the more that person or the nation becomes frustrated and despondent.

It took Europe centuries to evolve culturally and intellectually, shouldn’t one expect at least couple of centuries [from now] for the Iranian people to free themselves from Shia islam?


mash Ghanbar

Impotent leader?

by mash Ghanbar on

Borat

Ha!Since when Having unmet high expections on part of Voters translates into the Candidate being the Impotent leader? talking about connecting  G To Shagheeghe. As if voting Twice for GW classified as one of the proudest and Shinning moments this country has ever seen.

He can not do a damn thing, because he does not get the support he needs for his plans from a bunch of old fart , dumbass conservatives who go out of their way to derail every single project and they have stonewalled the whole process and waited so passionately for their time in November 2nd.

This scaremongering tactic is getting so old. There is no such plan on turning the masses to a bunch of sheep. Enough with these twisted and failed Gimmicks. 

 


My Name Is Borat

Obama is only with Obama

by My Name Is Borat on

The sooner everyone realizes that the sooner corrections can be made.

Sargord Pirouz, not to burst your bubble but Obama lacks the wit to do anything right, let alone attack Iran or anyplace else. The high expectations you speak of should remind you that he is in fact impotent as a leader. He keeps rattling on about "inheriting" this problem or that problem. Well, he hasn't done a damn thing to make it better and in fact has only made it worse.

That's just domestically.

Tha being said, Obama isn't with us. All he and his cronies and handlers seek is the complete capitulation of the masses into a bunch of government dependent sheep. This is their ideology.


My Name Is Borat

Obama is only with Obama

by My Name Is Borat on

The sooner everyone realizes that the sooner corrections can be made.

Sargord Pirouz, not to burst your bubble but Obama lacks the wit to do anything right, let alone attack Iran or anyplace else. The high expectations you speak of should remind you that he is in fact impotent as a leader. He keeps rattling on about "inheriting" this problem or that problem. Well, he hasn't done a damn thing to make it better and in fact has only made it worse.

That's just domestically.

Tha being said, Obama isn't with us. All he and his cronies and handlers seek is the complete capitulation of the masses into a bunch of government dependent sheep. This is their ideology.


My Name Is Borat

Obama is only with Obama

by My Name Is Borat on

The sooner everyone realizes that the sooner corrections can be made.

Sargord Pirouz, not to burst your bubble but Obama lacks the wit to do anything right, let alone attack Iran or anyplace else. The high expectations you speak of should remind you that he is in fact impotent as a leader. He keeps rattling on about "inheriting" this problem or that problem. Well, he hasn't done a damn thing to make it better and in fact has only made it worse.

That's just domestically.

Tha being said, Obama isn't with us. All he and his cronies and handlers seek is the complete capitulation of the masses into a bunch of government dependent sheep. This is their ideology.


Anahid Hojjati

I am responding to sirvapiaz in my blog since it is not featured

by Anahid Hojjati on

I do not want to give more clicks to likes of her so please visit my blog. I am updating it, responding to lies of sirvapiaz since for some reason my blog is not featured and hers is.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Anahid Hojjat the liar

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Show me a post where I "support criminal IRI". It is you who supports IRI. because sanctions arguably help the regime, not ordinary Iranians.


Anahid Hojjati

Moosirpiaz, you support criminal IRI leaders. Why?

by Anahid Hojjati on

Your blog has been up for hours and you have not got much love from IC readers because they know your real concern which is to keep this criminal IRI in power. You do not care for people of Iran, you are the selfish one.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Anahid Hojjat, what a seflish thing to say.

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

So sanctions hurting ordinary people is good now? Sometimes I question Iranians sanity. so much self-hatred for our culture and people. 

 


kazem0574

Keep Arab people happy and Iranians under pressure & hungry

by kazem0574 on

During the Shah's time there was a theory that superpowers keep Arab nations well fed and supplied with no shortages, to keep them quiet.

But Iranians on the other hand had to be kept under pressure, living with shortages and hand to mouth to keep them on a leash.

I have always disagreed and will always disagree with any armed strike against Iran. Surgical attacks are a myth, only good for keeping Western civilian population happy and less guilty in front of their TVs.

For now and on the face of it sanctions seem to be doing something but how effective they really are is yet to be seen. In the mean time my relatives and all Iranians suffer.


mahmoudg

can't have your cake and eat it too, my dear Iranians.

by mahmoudg on

Either severe sanctions, which must, and i say it again MUST hurt ordinary Iranians, to have any effect, must be supported, or strategic surgical attaks must be levied on this regime.  We can't just say do nothing and let this regime linger on.  Either you are with the sactions or you are with surgical attacks.  One or the other.  Neither is not an option.  Sanctions were designed to put so much pressure on the population to cause them to revolt.  the alternative is surgical attack, in the process of which we could also eliminate terrorist leeches who would otherwise targe innocent civilian life elsewhere in the world.


Anahid Hojjati

Iranians getting frustrated is good, IRI has to go

by Anahid Hojjati on

Yes, ordinary Iranians will feel the sanctions. People in South Africa were affected by sanctions too. But progressive forces were for sanctions against racist regime in South Africa. IRI is not any better than South African regime and has to go. By now, most IC readers are aware that pro IRI writers always write as if they feel sorry for people of Iran but it is the IRI interests that they are worried about.


Roozbeh_Gilani

"sargord": your personal insults are as always ignored

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

with a big smile of satisfaction for throwing the truth straight into the lieing face of a very frustrated agent of the Islamist regime on this site.

:) 

Oh, and dont take this response as a sign that you'll be noticed by me again, let alone as a sign of willingness to respond to your any forthcoming anger generated drivel.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Sargord Pirouz

You're naive, Roozbeh. Get

by Sargord Pirouz on

You're naive, Roozbeh. Get yourself informed before talking like a political babe in the wilderness. Or worse, a coward.

Don't be afraid to speak out. This is not a time for cowards. Vote intelligently. Prevent war.  


Roozbeh_Gilani

Obama is beholden to the American Voters' and USA'a

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

National Interests. Everything else just follows that.

We Iranians need to ensure that the whole world fully understand that we are not a bunch of anti american, jew hating terrorists. We are peaceful and respect all nations and religions. Now, once that happens, (and it is actually happening thanks to the Martyrs of uprising against the islamist regime last year), you'll find that Obama would change his policy towards Iran to suit US public opinion. The recent sanctions against some leaders in Iran is a very good sign. But I do agree with you that this is all coming too slow. The bottom line is that this fascist Islamic regime will be consigned to the dustbin of history by the heroic nation of Iran, just a matter of time......

And Thanks you for the good blog.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Sargord Pirouz

Obama is beholden to the

by Sargord Pirouz on

Obama is beholden to the Israel lobby. That should be obvious to everyone by now.

About the best thing that can be said for him is that he has not launched an actual war upon Iran. That, in itself, is something. But we expected a lot more in voting for him. We expected a sincere effort toward engagement. So far, that hasn't happened.