What are you doing for your country?

To: Ahmad.Bahai

I tried to reply to your email but it keeps bouncing. I also tried the email you provided here but heard nothing back.

Nationalism vs. Universalism

What am I going to do for "my country"?  --- Puh !!  What Country?

 Who defines what is the meaning of a piece of real estate called a "country", or a set of belief systems called culture, religions, etc?

I could be a Catholic priest fucking the altar boys, and my country would be "The Vatican".  I could be an Ayatollah, unknowingly giving the oil money to Rafsanjani, and my country would be Iran. I could be a fundamentalist Jew, thrashing the Palestinians, and my country would be Israel.  I could be a mere greedy Capitalist Pig, sucking the blood of workers for the illusion of "Freedom", and my country would be "the United States of America?  -- and the list goes on.   Come on Mehdi ...  Let's become clear on what question you are posing.

JFK said: Ask NOT what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.

Considering all the embarrassments caused by a bunch of yahoo countries to a civilized person like me, the question is: What can these countries do for me?

We must be.......:o)

 "You must be the change you want to see in the world."

                -Mahatma Gandhi

Solh va Doosti

Wanna thank everyone for participation

I learned a lot from the responses. Thanks!

Re: Zirak: How does Tahriri's (to: Anonymousp)

I don't MAKE the news. I just post them, especially if in relation with Iran. News are realities and FACTS of life and most smart people read and put them together with other facts and make up their minds about the issues. YOU not liking NEWS speaks alot about you.

Thanks for reading the nNEWS that I post.

answering mehdi's question

excellent question mehdi

currently, i am considering joining one of our democratic political group to become more active.
have always supported iranians, shopped and used services of an iranian primarily.
i speak farsi with kids and they know and understand the heartbeat of our culture, from poetry to politics to our social taboos.

Zirak!!! :0))

I am speechless!! which rarely happens!!!You follow my comments I wonder why?? since you are not a bit amused by my religion or the fact that I was a Muslim becoming a Bahai later in life!

I knew you do follow my comments  . How is the dust ,is it effecting your lungs?

I am as Iranian, as you are,and may be more. Since I do not think of my Hamvatanan as these charity cases. Our land is blessed with riches and if the money is not miss managed it would bring prosperity to all . They do not need your charity(to make your sins go away and make you feel closer to your 72 virgins!).

Pleeeeeeeeese,  stop chasing me, and get some fresh air. running after my comments is too dusty for your health.

with best wishes for my beloved land,

Tahirih

To dear Mahdi

hello mahdi and thank you for your warm compliments. it is my believe that helping one person, especially a needy child, is the obligation of every human being regardless of their religion,color and their ethnicity.

My thoughts are now with Mr. political opposition mind who is living a luxurious life abroad: at the end of a successful business day, when he parks his leased BMW, or S class Mercedes in front of starbucks or coffee bean in sunset hollywood or anywhere in the world sipping on a $5 latte showing off his hugo boss shirt and $400 true religion jeans with leather banded Omega watch acting like a perverted old man looking at younger girls and discussing the political situation in iran and even playing Takhtehnard. Do you know that $5 coffee can feed 3 children? have you ever fed or dressed any child in Iran? if you haven't done this then shut your mouth and enjoy your life wherever you are but don't intrude in my life.

we all need to stop sympathizing and start taking action instead.

Zirak

Te quiero = I like you

Te amo = I love you

Solh va Doosti

PS: Now, was your question on the translation of "I love you", central to the topic? :o)

Re: Mehdi apparently zirak

Natalie,

I am not against you discussing Mexico. But the simple question of Mehdi has led you to visit all sorts of issues that are really not central to the topic. May be I am wrong.  I like and respect Mexicans. i think they as much victimized by foriegners (you know who! ) as Iranians have been.

Takeero

(did I say it right? (ment to say love you))

Zirak: How does Tahriri's

Zirak: How does Tahriri's so-called "advertizing" (prostelytizing) for her religion is any different than your promotion and advocacy of militant Islam of the Islamic Republic???

I have been following your blogs and choice of "news", and let me tell you, you sound like a militant Islamists with too much time on your hand.

Mehdi apparently zirak

did not comprehend what it means "What are you doing for your country?" which in my case would be Mexico. It is the reason that you brought it up.

I guess you can't bring up Mexico on your blog or it will bother  zirak.

Mehdi, you know where to find me on the website, if you wish to continue the Mexico topic.

moraghebe khodet bash dooste man

Solh va Doosti

Man ham hamintor fekr mikonam

  zirak,

If you will read Mehdi's posts and mine then you will notice that they were meant for him. So, I am very much on track.

Solh va Doosti

to: Natalia Alvarado-Alvarez (Re: Bale)

Natalia,

You are "kheili roodeh deraz". Please stay on the topic. Can you please focus for a little while? Are you on ADD, or ADHD, or some such medication?

Re: I am entering dangerous territories ,but have to say it!!!!!

 Tahirih,

I have been following your writings and posts on various topics on Iranian.com. I think adverizing for one's religion (in your case Bahaism) is fine. However, at this juncture you are not helping Iran. At best you are just there.

However, I like your statement that "teach them how to fish rather than giving them the fish ..... ". When you raise the level of education by helping young students in Iranian universitues through grants and lab equipment, etc. , YOU ARE TEACHING. Education by your own admission is the best we could do. Why are you so contradictory? Is that part of Bahai teaching too? (nothing against your beliefs)

What you have done for your country

:-)) Teflaki!! Tarsidi? You call me an "animal" because I have reported to all what is going on in Britain with respect to the possible removal of the PMOI's name from the infamous terror list.

Hey buddy, who calls "itslef" %; instead, you should ineed call yourslef "a 100%-bottom-burnt" (sad dar sad mataht-sookhteh) now that you are realizing that your mullah-masters mortal enemy, the PMOI, is about to be de-proscribed.

I truly understand the fright that is dawning on your spines and those of your mullah-masters thus the reason a "Lat O Lompan" has the audacity of calling others "animal" because of a simple news reporting!!

But again, as Freud used to say, a cigar could just be a cigar; in your case, the name of the PMOI is more than a cigar, it is a "Shataragh" to your "Bisharaf Banagoosh," and I say enjoy it % whatever.

I am entering dangerous territories ,but have to say it!!!!!

I was reading the comments,and one in particular jumped up,the one about collecting money and sending it to Iran to help universities labs and students and orphans and poor people ......

Wait a minute, is the price of oil the highest ever, or I have been misinformed by western media!!!???

My dear hamvatanan, I am all for helping our country ,but as they say it, don't give them fish, teach them how to fish!!!To empower a nation ,collecting money is a band aid solution not the cure.

Education is the only way to promote any society, I do not know how exactly but in my corner of the world I try to make bridges between different groups of Iranians  that live here and educating them by my actions that we can be united and kind to each other, no matter what religion or ideology we believe in.

OK ,now comes the attacks on me,but I had to say it , so bring it on!!!!

Tahirih

Bale

Yes, they were a great civilization, minus the human sacrifices. I can assure you that there are people already in Mexico trying to revive the languages and culture. Some have gone as far as recording some of the few remaining speakers of the native tongues of the Mayans and Aztecs to preserve for future  generations.

On the helping others, I do believe in focusing my volunteer efforts on helping more than one ethnic group. One must use one's resources as effectively as possible.

Solh va Doosti

Mehdi: I don't need to brag

Mehdi: I don't need to brag about what I have done and what I'm doing in a public forum. It cheapens the altruistic act; In other words, it becomes self-promoting and self-aggrandizing. A little bit of humility goes a long way, Mehdi?

To: Mehdi

Mehdi 

First thanks for bringing up a very good topic.

Secondly with regards to creating an org to help young iranian students in Iran, given that anyone could just make a suggestion like mine and be a crook (try to take advantage of the inocent)  I suggest further that we go through a third person/org such as JJ, if he agrees to take responsibility. I think pretty much we all trust him. If you wish to discuss further (perhaps first with JJ), please email me at: nmg3010@yahoo.com. My psudo name here is only for conveience (so is my email psudo name).

regards

Comparing myself.....

Comparing myself to dear friend Ahmad.Bahai;NOTHING/ NADA.

Helping omid-e-mehr organization  & Children of Bam in Iran.

P.S

Dear Mehdi,thanks for the much needed subject.

Responses

To: IRANdokht

Thanks for what you are doing. Like you said, every step counts and we can always expand our influence.

To: Questions? (not verified)

I consider educating Iranians about the system and also educating the world about the dangers of a potential war between Iran and US is helping Iran (and the US). You have many questions that are all over the place. I am trying to stick with the subject here.

To: Anonymousmm

I am not sure what happened to your previous posting but would you tell us what it is that you are doing for your country, wherever it may be?

To: Anonymous500

I am not sure what was your role and how this helped Iran. Please explain.

To: Live From Tehran

A warm hello to my "hamvatan" living in Iran. You rock! Interesting how those who are themselves in need seem to help the most! You are awesome!

To: Natalia

Well, I think they started the human sacrifice and that caused their eventual demise. But otherwise, they used to be a great civilization. You could resurrect the good part ;) And yes, indirect help is also help. Hispanic community does include people from Mexico. Sounds like you are doing work for areas larger than one country though. Even better!

To: Anonymous500 (re; What do you do for Iran ...)

Anonymous500,
You certainly have done something AGAINST iran, and that is called reign of terror through your masters in Wash DC and Tel Aviv. Please go hide in your Ashrafi shell. We don't need animals like you.

thank you.

Mehdi, Did you forget?

Did you forget that the Aztec and/or Mayan Empire would do human sacrifices?  I certainly, have not.

I do get your meaning though.

:o)

Now, as to what have I done to help my country.  Well, my object has not been at this time to help Mexico directly. Instead, I have focused on helping Hispanics through various organizations.

For instance, I joined the Susan G. Komen organization in November of 2007. I am using my bilingual skills (Spanish/English) to spread the message of Breast Cancer Awareness within the Hispanic community. .I have decided to take my volunteer efforts with the organization up a notch and will become even more involved this summer.

I also, volunteer with HAWC (Houston Area Women's Organization). They help women that have been in domestic violence situations. I work with the children in the main offices day care, while the victims of abuse get counseling. Again, I used my Bilingual skills to create a safe environment with the children that I work with.

 I may not be doing anything directly for Mexico but rather for the Hispanics and other ethnic groups as well within the U.S.

I did try to help the Iranian community through Stop Child Executions Campaign but alas, I am more effective at the local level when it comes to volunteering.

Solh va Doosti

Children are the future of our country

I help with clothing, food, school material and anything in my power to save 3 beautiful children from a poor family. Their father works really hard but it's tough to make the ends meet. it's a small contribution that i can make for now since i am myself a school teacher that recently lost my job. but i won't let the depressed society effect and take away the smiles of these innocent children.
The children are the future of our country. We must save them and teach them a value of being. teach them how to smile and be carefree. No child should go to sleep hungry, no child must die because their parents can't afford needed surgery.
Please help one child at a time.

Waht you do for Iran

Agaha Mehdi, since you are asking Iranian-Americans about what is it that they are doing to help Iran, here is what I have been doing lately, take a look at it and see if you'd like it buddy? Share it with your NIAC comrades too:
From the The Sunday Telegraph:
این هفته نامه طی مقالهیی باعنوان سرانجام ، بریتانیا از قانون خود اطاعت می كند به قلم كریستوفر بوكر نوشت: این را كه دولت ما قبول كرده به حكم قانون عمل كند، بسختی می توان خبر نامید. ولی چنین موردی هفته پیش صورت گرفت، هنگامیكه جكی اسمیت ، وزیر كشور ، ابلاغیه یی را به پارلمان ارائه داد تا نام مجاهدین خلق ایران را از لیست سازمان های تروریستی ممنوعه خارج كند. او ، بعد از دوبار بیاعتنایی به احكام دیوان عالی ، اینكار را تنها به دستور قاطع قاضی الاقضات انگلستان لرد فیلیپس انجام داد.
دولت (انگلستان) ، در تلاش برای استمالت از یكی از پلیدترین و بیرحم ترین رژیم ها در جهان ، هفت سال است كه سازمان مجاهدین خلق ایران ، بزرگترین عضو جنبش مخالف ایران ، شورای ملی مقاومت ایران ، را بدرخواست ملاهای حاكم بر ایران غیرقانونی كرده است. از زمانیكه دادگاه استیناف دستور داد این ممنوعیت برداشته شود ، رژیم تهران بجوش آمده ، هشدار می دهد كه اگر دولت ما به حكم دادگاه بی اعتنایی نكند ، روابط بین ایران و اتحادیه اروپا شدیدا بخطر می افتد.
ساندی تلگراف در ادامه مقاله خود افزود: حكم قاضی الاقضات، دولت انگلیس را در برابر شركایش در اتحادیه اروپا به شدت تحقیر كرده است ، شركایی كه دولت انگلیس آنها را متقاعد كرده بود این ممنوعیت را در سطح اتحادیه اروپا اعمال كنند و دوباره حكم دادگاه عدالت خود اروپا را نادیده گیرند. كشورهای همتایمان در اتحادیه اروپا اینكار را كردند زیرا ، اتحادیه اروپا ، از سال 2001 ، بیهوده تلاش كرده با مذاكرات رژیم ایران را راضی كند تا از ساختن تسلیحات اتمی دست بردارند.
ساندی تلگراف در ادامه مقاله خود افزود: هفته گذشته در بروكسل یك هیأت تمام حزبی از نمایندگان ارشد پارلمان اروپا، از اتحادیه اروپا خواستند نام مجاهدین خلق ایران را از لیست تروریست خارج كنند.و به سخنان خانم مریم رجوی ، رئیس جمهور برگزیده مقاومت ایران گوش دادند كه اعلان كرد سرانجام عدالت بر سیاست استمالت پیروز شد ، سیاستی كه ، صلح و امنیت جهانی را گروگان ملاهای جنایتكار كرده بود . ساندی تلگراف در پایان افزود: بریتانیا و اتحادیه اروپا هردو هنوز از به رسمیت شناختن اینكه شورای ملی مقاومت ایران تنها امید برای یك آلترناتیو غیرمذهبی و دمكراتیك در برابر حكومت مذهبی بی قانونی است كه كل خاورمیانه را از نوار غزه گرفته تا بیروت، از عراق تا افغانستان بی ثبات می كند ، بسیار فاصله دارند. ولی آنها با اطاعت از قوانین خودشان ممكن است حداقل یك نقطه شروع را ایجاد كنند.

To: ahmad.bahai

Dude, you rock! So far you are the winner! You have done a lot. As one Iranian, I sincerely appreciate your efforts. You are awesome! And I love your plans for future. Your actions ARE making a difference. People like yourself are the ones who do the actual work - never mind that then some politician comes along and takes the credit :-)

I didn't know it is against the law to purchase equipment for university labs or medical supplies. What a criminal arbitrary law!

What do you need to get the club/organization started? Maybe we could help.

What happened to my comment?

What happened to my comment? Why didn't you publish it?

Let me put it to you this way:

Why do you think legitimizing the Islamic Republic and helping its survival is "helping" Iran or Iranians?

And as I said before, financial support or donating money to orphanages or building clinics or providing housings for your Hamvatans/family/relatives is not a big deal and it's done all the time. I'm sure everyone will do it , if they could afford it.

Let's us know what you're really trying to get at...

We all try to do what we can

I think we all try to do what we can to help our country and our people. We help small organizations outside Iran or with the use of internet or family connections in Iran we can help the orphanages , hospitals and schools in the country. Unfortunately this kind of effort has not been centralized or more organzied and most people are helping in very personal ways.

Due to the shortcomings of the IRI government and the sanctions imposed on Iran, and the magnitude of poverty and unemployment have caused a large percentage of Iranians to be in need of help. With the Iranians abroad not having an organized way of helping, none of us can make a huge difference in the lives of very many people.

If we show good faith and do what we can, we can make a difference in one person's life.

IRANdokht

To: Natalia Alvarado-Alvarez

PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR MEXICO (I happen to like Mexico). WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO RESURRECT THE GREATNESS OF THE AZTEC OR MAYAN EMPIRE AGAIN? QUIT AVOIDING AN ANSWER!

Just kidding - you don't have to :-)