Jahanshah Javid

some suggestion

Here are some registered names that I dont think are taken and those who were not registered because they were afraid -of who knows what- can use without anyone (except iranian.com) knowing their email address (which also they can open so many of email addresses first before registering! all in 5 minutes.).

So if too paranoid create a new email address then register with iranian.com. Some suggestions:

email : Paranoid2009@hotmail.com      register name: mitarsam

IsItMyOwnShadow@gmail.com   register name: myshadowisanagent

Watdaafu88@yahoo.com    register name: ex_sitemanipulator

highdoseprozac@aol.com    register name: lovesofas    

memememee@mail.com   register name: luv2thankmyself 

othersukkk@email.com     register name : youmustbutneverme

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ps: Regardless of registered or not, if you do not want your IP exposed to anysite, just use annymous IP's from sites such as  

//hidemyass.com/

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If you are still afraid to express yourself, just don't ! or contact this hotline at 9999-9999-9999 , you will be charged $50USD per minute and your ID will be stolen after hearing this message:

If you are obsessive-compulsive, press 1 repeatedly,

If you are co-dependent, please ask someone else to press 2.

If you have multiple personalities, please press 3, 4, 5, & 6

If you are a paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want. Just stay on the line so we can trace your call.

If you are schizophrenic, you will either hear a voice tell you which number to press.

If you are manic-depressive and in the down phase, it doesn't matter which number you press, we wi11 not answer, and if we do, we would not able to help you-and we charge an arm and a leg. if you are in the upper phase, then everything is fine and you don't need help(yet)-nor do we need our counselor listening to your endless chatter.

If you are paranoid-schizophrenic, watch out! The thing you are holding on the side of your head has just woke-up, and it is about to bite you head off. 

Great Move JJ

This is in line with many other websites. It keeps the conversation more interesting and valuable for all.

Hossein 

No, Jalehooooo, I dooooooooo

believe capital punishment should be abolished. Tomorrow. Categorically. Across the board. No exceptions. None.

That was my whole point..that severely restricting the number of registered identites onsite is only the second thing we've ever agreed on  after capital punishment (not counting our disliking each other intensely , of course   :o)      

Can't you read?

Just kidding. Seriously.

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As for Delara being a convicted killer, we can discuss that back on her old Iranian of the Day thread from the day she was executed if you want.

It'll pop up on my tracking and I'll be there...with bells on...maybe even change my avatar back for one day, just for you... 

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Let's drop this whole thing now. It's already waaaaaay off-topic.

rainbowcountry, nice clips actually, but

it is the ugly face of colonialism and apartheid, not yahood. Yahood part is abused to push ahead and preserve the colinialsm in a century that it must be DEAD. Otherwise, you can easily substitue those clips with American forces in Vietnam or French in Algeria....same ugly face of aggression and colonialism, no yahood.

Rosie if people in

Rosie if people in Iran post as fishes they are "less trackable" how?  Registered fishes inside Iran or outside Iran like me are "more trackable" how?  There is no difference between a registered fishe and unregistered fishe.

Unless there is something I'm missing I'm not going to hog this blog and comment anymore on this subject.  And IP addresses and "blocking" IP addresses is just not knowing it doesn't exist.  i.com is the only one who knows our IP addresses like when you have your own blog in the blogger you know the IP addresses of those who comment on your blog and you can't block them.  You can delete their comment but you can't block them.  Now I'm sure there are ways to block them if JJ wants, but why would he?  He already blocks accounts like Hajiagha's so that is another non-issue.

Everything is sacred.

Mr Javid

Just wondering can a person register as anonymous??!!!!!!

LOL

Rosie, you don't believe that Capital

punishment should be abolished? 'cause I do.

I wonder then why you whined so much over capital punishment of Delara, a convicted killer,  if you are FOR it ;-) :-)

good move jj

at least the move will limit the riffraff and the indiscriminate insult; although it certainly won't block them. limiting number of users per ip address in also great, but jj you know the ramifications better than i do.

anahid, use of "real" name is dubious. what is "real" anyway? will we have someone checking the validity or our names? should we also use real pictures? maybe jj can require an application process and issue us an iranian.com shenasnameh. why don't we just send our name and picture to gerdab.com or hand it over to the iri agents who work at daftar.org?  (more overtime pay for you jaleho! woohoo!) just a few thoughts to elaborate on your idea.  frankly, i like anonymouse's idea of individual decisionmaking. :)

No, you see, Mooshi, /and PS FOR ALL!!! /ppppps

the issue with the fishies from Iran is that when they post as fishies (and let's call it that from now on rather than anonymously to make things clearer)  they are LESS TRACKABLE...particularly if they use different names each time rather than only one..

see???

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ALL

Hmmmm...I just tried to open up a new account to make one single posting here just to make a point a(nd a joke, since I was gonna make sure everyone knew it was me) and., when I tried to do it..the capability did not exist.

Is it...possible...could it..be...that....???????

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Well in any case this was gonna be part of the joke:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEv_YN2w6A

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ppppppppppps ah sh-t, wishful thinking i guess..just did something wrong...tried again and it exists...but how many people felt elated for the brief moment just now when you thought it didn't? heaps, i'll bet....

I agree with Majid...

...and Jaleho on the point of registered users not being able to have more than one account. Thanks for this great update.

Rosie neither posting

Rosie neither posting under an "anonymous registered name" nor "using your real name" is an issue one way or another.  So when it is not an issue it is not a drawback, that is what I mean.

Here in America, land of the free and home of the brave, bloggers use anonymous names.  So I don't know what the problem is?!

Everything is sacred.

Yes, but that's my whole point, Mouse,

by eliminating the aquarium option they no longer have the option of marching with mask here, so to say.

Cowardice was mentioned way below by (now registered) Anonymous8 as a REASON for allowing the fishie postings. Most here would agree that that's no reason, far better to..encourage people to be...brave...

but the people who post from Iran as fishies are not cowards. Doing even that is already brave. As is the mere act of unfiltering without even posting.

So I'm not quite sure I'm getting what you mean that it's not a drawback.

However, just for the sake of those who didn't read my original comment, I said that it was the only drawback and that it was unavoidable...I am in favor of the new policy.

Rosie no drawback. 

Rosie no drawback.  People inside Iran use their real names and write and walk the streets without masks (swine flu masks ;-) while others march with masks and write with their anonymous names.  They fight just as hard and to the best of their abilities.

People should be free to do whatever they want.  As one clay oven superintendent once said to his apprentice; you can die and blow the oven! (for all I care ;-)

Everything is sacred.

Jaleho is absolutely right.

Computers and I'net access are so common these days and so inexpensive...there's really no excuse for people to insist that they need multiple access to one computer. Two reg identities per computer is plenty. Three is plenty plenty...four is..absurd... 

Well. Finally Jaleho and I concur on something. Other than that capital punishment should be abolished.

Who knew?

In celebration, I shall edit out my last caustic comment about her. This could be the start of something BIG..

lol

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ps There! Done!

Great start!

Now, if you follow that by limiting each IP address to only one registered person, or at most one of their "anonymous" wife's or children....then we'll have a real Cheers where "everyone knows your name," and sick puppies can not pat their own back all over the place ;-)

Really, since this place has a unique cafe character to it as well as a good information site which could reflect the statistical opinion of Iranians, you might as well make it as real as possible, by making it reflect the REAL people, not all of their alter egos.

Thanks for a good job.

Dear Anonymouse, it is stronger if a real name is behind it

Dear Anonymouse, under normal conditions, I have little issue with using fake real names but these are not normal times.  Our brothers and sisters are being beaten, jailed and killed inside Iran.  There are not many things that we can do for them from thousands of miles away but I believe by using our real names whenever we write against IRI, we are doing something positive in support of Iranians in Iran.  I made a blog out of my comment.  My blog title is :"

Those in Diaspora should not stay anonymous if our brothers and sisters are jailed and killed in Iran"

So those of you wanting to comment on my suggestion, please do it under my blog. 

One word

EXCELLENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

-YT 

''back on track of progress' / One drawback

Mouse says'back on track of progress, and many here agree. But This this has been a very unusual and challenging experiment in civil liberties and democracy.'And it has always been on track of progress, with valuable  lessons learned all along the way.

There has been no regulation from above,, to moderation by group chosen from  above  without regulation from above, to moderation by this chosen group with more internal organizatin plus regulation frolm above, to reguilation exclusively from above.

Pretty much every option has been explored, and finally we come to what so many sites do--compulsory registration with flagging responsibility of users, and approval of them from one moderator. Which is the closest thing to a viable democracy, civil liberties with accountability.

To discover this COLLECTIVELY through an ongoing process of trial and error that that is, in fact, the system which works best, rather than swallow whole that just because it's the most common one, it's the best, is an extraordinary achievemt. Especially in the Iranian context. Thanks to your Fearless Leader for having persevered against all odds in keeping the goldfish (due to his stubborn nature). 

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Imho users have always under-flagged. And I have blogged on it and said it many times. I really feel that at this point although Dear Moderator has the ability to, he really shouldn't intervene at all. That way if the threads start gonig to the sh-ts, people have no one to blame except themselves, and they'll finally have to face that for the first time.

I hope he still reads the threads though, from time to time. lol

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DRAWBACK: The only people who really deserve the privilege of anonymous posting are those who live in Iran. It's a shame that an exception can't be made for them but doing so would only draw the attention to them that they're trying to avoid by posting anonymously.

That'not only a drawback. It's a little bit of a tragedy. But just a little. Only because there are so few of them after all.

I'm sure j. and team have thought this through already.

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ps I know, I know. I talk too much. I'm a foreign meddler.

Flag me. :o)

Thanks Mr. Javid

It was long overdue. The next step would be to stop or at least slow down multiple posting by the same user under different registered ID in the same blog.

Good move...

Sepaas

Ebi aka Haaji

I like it!

Thanks and about time.

Tahirih

Fake real names

Anahid we can use fake real names.  It is too late for me but we can use names like Nima Moghadam or Shiva Karamat. 

Using real, real names is not only problematic inside Iran it is also problematic outside Iran with identity theft or harrasment and so on.

There is also the Iraninian.com Anonymous Union which you're welcome to join.  As the Vice President of that Union I hereby invite you ;-)

Everything is sacred.

Next is to use our real names when we write against IRI

Anonymouse asks now what is next? One thing that I have been thinking about is if all the writers on this site who do not live in Iran, used their real names when they wrote against IRI, wouldn't it be more effective?  If people in Iran are willing to stand at front of guns, couldn't we show our solidarity with them better if rather than using fake names, we used our real names?

Yes, that would mean worrying about what would happen if we want to travel to Iran and whole bunch of other issues.  However,  I think it would send a strong message of solidarity with Iranians who have to live under IRI, if starting certain day, writers on this site would use their real names when they wrote anything in support of struggle of people in Iran. Besides sending a solidarity message, it is valuable from psychological level since it indicates that we believe so much in victory of people in their quest for freedom that we are willing to use our real names.  Again this is for those who do not live in Iran. This is my suggestion. I am interested to know what other writers think about this suggestion.

thx

i did it . now you can sleep better.LoL

Finally!!!!!

It's about time!  As we say in Persian; whenever you catch the fish it is fresh. 

Congratulations JJ on your wise decision.  Now you're back on track (of progress ;-) again!

Now what's next?!

Everything is sacred.

I agree with Majid ... :) if

"this means less personal attack, less back stabbing, less self congratulatory comments......and a safer environment for mutual conversations".

Hope we will have a clean and mature site capable of conversing rather than bad-mouthing.  :)

قابل توجه اونایی که از رجیستر کردن میترسند

من چهار تا دیگه اسم رجیستر شده تو این سایت دارم.... دو نبش با آب و برق و تلفن و حسن شهرت با امتیاز دو تا بلاگ در هر روز (طبق قواعد ایرانیان دات کام)، جمعاً هشت بلاگ .....که سر قفلی آنها یکجا و یا جداگانه  به بهترین پیشنهاد واگذار میشود.
تا دیر نشده بشتابید که غفلت موجب پشیمانی است

Yes You can ;-)

It is something we have been waiting since longtime.

You said waiting for comments, as annonymous cannot leave comments you will have almost positive comments ! :-)

Cheers.

mirror mirror

while people are jeopordizing their lives in Iran , if some people are even afraid to chose few meaningless,  traceless letters and words to type and comment under (eg:  %&^T*Y* or JHGJHGJ or  FYKJN>VXY or "whatever: anonymous a2z 1to1000  ) for the fear of getting identified!! , then the problem is them and not the site.

To find who is silencing them all they have to do is to walk in front of the mirror or talk to a therapist for exessive and baseless fear, paranois and anxiety!

About damn time........LOL

Thank you, thank you and THANK YOU!

I think this means less personal attack, less back stabbing, less self congratulatory comments......and a safer environment for mutual conversations.

Congratulations on a very important step forward.