Ashoura-The champions of self-flagellation!

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Ashoura-The champions of self-flagellation!
by Iqbal Latif
07-Dec-2011
 

Some people are champions of self-flagellation, Hezbollah is unquestionably one, Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah forgetting the results of his 2006 incursion into violence in the region reiterated and talked about arms and militia and venom. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah spoke to the crowd in a rare public appearance during a rally to mark the Muslim holy day of Ashoura, in the Hezbollah stronghold of south Beirut, Lebanon, on Tuesday Dec. 6, 2011. Hezbollah is an armed 'state' within the state of Lebanon. What Ashoura needed was not more venom but a different sermon of love!

Severe self-administered physical punishment, used as an act of penance during Ashoura, often in the form of beatings or floggings has also become part of political strategy. Once in a while customary self thrashing is considered as ritualistic cleansing of sins ordained by Allah. Hezbollah forces invite upon the Lebanese nation by strange mix of religious vigour and political provocation the wrath of Lebanon's northern neighbour. Hezbollah acts as a proxy of Iran and Syria.Middle East Syrian-Iran axis based politics impacts Hezbollah fortunes directly, fall of Assad regime will change the nature of Lebanon completely; Iran will be unable to find the geographical leverage of proximity to the ultimate hotspot of Middle East.

Nasrallah has rarely been seen in public since his Shiite Muslim group battled Israel in a month long war in 2006, fearing Israeli assassination. Nasrallah emergence on Ashoura that marks the anniversary of the death in the seventh century of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson Imam Hussein. His death in a battle outside of the Iraqi city of Karbala sealed Islam's historical Sunni-Shiite gash, which still is a continual source of problems in the Middle East. Ashoura is one of the holiest days of the Muslim Shiite calendar. Hassan Nasrallah said Hezbollah was "here to stay" and would never compromise on its weapons. Nasrallah unexpected manifestation defying shadows of Israeli assassination attempt may also be tied to stem the deteriorating morale of his people as the reality of declining fate of Assad in Syria sets in.

Nasrallah said. "And for those who are betting that our weapons are rusting, we say that our weapons are being renewed." I wish that he grasps that rusting weapons are good if wits of nation is not rusting, he is leading the collective corrosion of the mind of his nation. He said that his militant group is acquiring additional weapons and militant members. He then left the podium, smiling and telling tens of thousands of supporters he will reappear in few minutes on a giant screen for a longer speech. he was worried of a launch from Israel probably.

"We are growing in numbers, our training is getting better and our weapons are increasing." I wished he would have said that his nation is growing in knowledge and research, leading the word of innovation and reconstruction of mankind's edifice, no he had nothing of that to say what he said was more arms, more destruction, more death! In his public appearance, he said, this is a message to those who believe they can "threaten us," as many in the crowds shouted "Death to America" and "Death to Israel." Nasrallah reiterated his support for Assad's regime on Tuesday, accusing the United States of seeking to destroy Syria "to make up for its defeat in Iraq."

Syrians and Arabs gave prominence to Nasrallah and raised him to the status of a nationalist hero after his guerrillas' 2006 war with Israel. Now Syrians masses have set free their resentment at Hezbollah over its direct support for the regime of President Bashar Assad. Syrians recently have set fire to the yellow flag of Hezbollah and pictures of Nasrallah. Syrian and Hezbollah Nexus is considered by many as the cabal that eliminated former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Rafik Hariri's liquidation was a classical Regicide la Baath. The concept of regicide sits deep in the conscious of cliché that rule Syria. Hariri, as a popular leader, was the king of hearts. Syrian bare proxy, Hezbollah is suspected of carrying out the orders. Lebanon is deeply divided over the U.N.-backed tribunal investigating who was behind the 2005 assassination of former Hariri. Hezbollah and its allies reject the probe as biased.

Assad alignment with Iran and total reliance on Nasrallah and Ahmadinejad is in risk of being toppled. The 'troika of instability' so far had a great nuisance value, too much political capital was wasted and too much destruction achieved with no results. The populace of the region caught in this conflict of ideological pre-eminence, after great wars, still are unsure as to the benefits of sacrifices of their houses and villages. The claims of neutralising the might of the Israeli Army is quite shallow when contrasted to the ruins of Lebanon.

Hezbollah conscience and Hamas's political pragmatism should take lessons from 1948, 1967 and 1973. All wars have only helped in making Israel a bigger and stronger nation and left them to live in squalid conditions. Palestinians and Lebanese do not deserve it. And what does Iran have to do with it? Iran is only using the Palestinians and the Shiites in Southern Lebanon for harbouring their own agenda in the Persian Gulf.

I crave that Sheik Hassan Nasrallah recognizes for good of his nation that destiny of his people can only improve if they accrue knowledge and ingenuousness not weapons and ragtag militias. Locked and rationally closed nations are a disconnect with the popular conventional wisdom that rules the world, lamentably closed minds will only lead to more destruction and a journey backward in times.

What Ashoura needed was a sermon of intellect and a commencement address like 'Stay Foolish Stay Hungry Lebanon,' go and conquer the world with your knowledge. That hope was deferred by the Sheikh to life after death. Alas, like all Ashouras the significance was on martyrdom, self immolation and self killing so that next world becomes everlasting perpetual heavenly hang about. Last time in 2006; the such words of bigotry and collection of arms and militias resulted in the following:

http://iranian.com/IqbalLatif/2006/July/Hezbollah/index.html

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This is a curse of destiny on children of Islam!

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Self- flagellation - This is a curse of destiny on children of Islam!Self- flagellation or bloodletting is flagellation for demise of the spirit of forbearance within Islam soon after the death of Muhammad. It is flagellation for the guilt that they all committed when they drew the blood of Banu Hashim in the deserts of Kerbela. Muhammad paid a huge price for the unity of Quaraysh; they eliminated his entire family in Kerbela 72 of them. Muawiyah I founder of the Umayyad Caliphate was thus later slandered to be an illegitimate son of a cannibal.

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Muawiyah I was the founder of the Umayyad dynasty. He was the son of Hind bint ‘Utbah was an Arab woman who lived in the late 6th and early 7th centuries CE; she was the wife of Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, a powerful man of Mecca, in western Arabia.

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Locked and rationally closed nations are a disconnect with the popular conventional wisdom that rules the world, lamentably closed minds will only lead to more destruction and a journey backwards in time.’’

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عموجان

They should stop waisting...

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All that blood on the street and just donate it to a blood bank to save some life.

oh well, what am i talking about, Muslims prefer to praise agonies of life than what makes life enjoyable, that's why they are so sacry  


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 Thanks Raoul. Glad you

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 Thanks Raoul. Glad you enjoyed it.

 

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Raoul1955

Vildemose

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Like your suggestion to Salman. 
Cute and very funny.  :-)


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Ike what do you think of this;

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@What Ashoura needed was a sermon of intellect and a commencement address like 'Stay Foolish Stay Hungry Lebanon,' go and conquer the world with your knowledge. That hope was deferred by the Sheikh to life after death. Alas, like all Ashouras, the emphasis was on martyrdom, self immolation and self killing so that the next world becomes an everlasting perpetual heavenly hangabout.

Ike what do you think of this;

My brethren in arms, today is Ashoura and on this solemn occasion of Ashoura when an innocent human was sacrificed on the altar of ego by the forces of evil; I will recall the greatest human piety of our Imam by borrowing heavily from the best commencement addresses that have changed the course of nations.

I will break with the tradition; I agree if there’s one quotation that sums up my journey through life and the choices I’ve made, it’s the closing lines of a poem by Robert Frost, which I now pass along to you:

“I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I---
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.”

You have a choice. You can either be a passive victim of circumstance or you can be the active hero of your own life. Action is the antidote to apathy and cynicism and despair. You will inevitably make mistakes. Learn what you can and move on. At the end of your days, you will be judged by your gallop, not by your stumble

Follow whatever your passion may be in life and do something you love. First, you must resolve to grow intellectually, morally, technically, and professionally every day through your entire work and family life.

You need to be absolutely paranoid about the currency of your knowledge and ask yourself every day: am I really up to speed? Or am I stagnating intellectually, faking it or even worse, falling behind? Am I still learning? Or am I just doing the same stuff on a different day or as Otis Redding sings "Sitting on the dock of the bay... watching the tide roll away"

 

Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never – in nothing, great or small, large or petty – never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense.” Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

Death is very likely the single best invention of life. It’s life’s change agent; it clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now, the new is you. But someday, not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic but it’s quite true. Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice, heart and intuition. Your inner voice somehow already knows what you truly want to become. ...

 

There is going to come a time in your life when in order to succeed you will have to trust -- when you will have to make a big leap of faith -- and when that time comes I hope you will swallow your fear and get into the wheelbarrow.

There are these two young fish swimming along and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says "Morning, boys. How's the water?" And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes "What the hell is water?"

Simple awareness; awareness of what is so real and essential, so hidden in plain sight all around us, all the time, that we have to keep reminding ourselves over and over:
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Know yourself and become an emblem of piety of mankind that was the martyrdom of Imam Hussein suppose to be.


vildemose

 salman: I do hope you

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 salman: I do hope you flagellate yourself to the point where you won't be able to spam IC anymore. Reading your comment is almost as painful as self-flagellation.

 

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salman farsi

Christians, Jews and Hindus practice flagellation

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 Don't blame it on Shi'as only brother

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellation#Christianity

 

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