Was it worth it?

Fred
by Fred
28-Feb-2010
 

The actual human cost of the past eight months of peaceful demonstrations on the part of fed up Iranians and their suppression by the traditional Islamist savagery of IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic is not known.

But given the number of mourning families who have had their loved ones murdered, all those who have had their family member(s) incarcerated, those who have had to flee and those men, women and children raped and tortured, the actual number must be in thousands.

The question is, was it worth it?

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David ET

Great question

by David ET on

The pain and suffering and the blood shed was not in vein but I pointed this as being unnecessary shortly after the first post-election aggression by the Islamic military regime.

On June 24 in an article titled Iran at a crossroad I wrote:

... with the lack of true leadership that exists any more encouragement of unarmed Iranians to face the armed forces of Islamic regime will only result in unnecessary bloodshed without any specific gains. At this stage anymore such calls without strategic planning are nothing but adventurism that result in unnecessary crackdown, arrests, injuries and deaths. Continuance of the status quo and adventurism also play in to the traps of the same old usual opportunists of different camps from ultra right to the left who have again come out of the woodwork trying to take advantage of the situation for their self-serving gains. 

http://iranian.com/main/blog/david-et/iran-crossroad 

My views remain unchanged. 


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Fred, there is a beautiful word that summarizes your blogs

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

I'm afraid to use it. 

By the way, why are you spelling your favorite leader's name incorrectly?MEIN, mein herr, MEIN. 


Fred

Mien Führer

by Fred on

Mien Führer, as it has been brought to the attention of your fellow Islamist Rapist apologists on number of occasions, when you put something in quotation mark it has to be from the person you are quoting. So mien Führer where and when did I say as you claim: "so what, they've been doing X already"

BTW only an Islamist will have your deductive reasoning to lead you to conclude from my post as “proposing even more violence” only an Islamist sees violence as the key to all problems.

The rest of the cluelessness pack, you are all doing a good job, keep on trucking.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Fraud's justification "so what, they've been doing X already".

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

So now you've jumped from one post defending your morally superior stance to actually proposing even more violence in order to see IR gone.

 

Good job, Fraud.


Mardom Mazloom

Don Mien Früd,

by Mardom Mazloom on

To answer your question: Was it worth?

- Yes it was, ta cheshm hassod koor.

First of all, Iranians didn't wait your approbation to go tell their frustration against evil,

Secondly, Protests are FAAAR from being finished. There are just Mien Früd and other islamist rapists in Iran and on this site who think that manifestations are over,

Finally, Iranians will fight till the end to bring freedom, liberty and justice in Iran. 

Mien Früd, you just continue your campaign of fear and hate we'll see if you'll do it at the end. Good luck air-tight-sanction-man


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

MEIN Fuhrer Fred

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

You are a really classy guy. Just when I think "there is NO way this user cannot stoop any lower" you do it. Bravo.


capt_ayhab

..

by capt_ayhab on

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."  --  Thomas Jefferson 

-YT 


Fred

Mien Führer

by Fred on

Now, now mien Führer “massive violence that will follow”, are you kidding?

What do you think your Islamist brethrens have been doing to Iranians for the past thirty one years? Not massive enough for you?

You want to prolong it with the incremental and nonexistent “reform”, people like me are after ending the suffering your IRR imposes on Iran and Iranians.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Fraud

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Your usual BS claims that I'm an islamist regime supporter aside, how are you for ending violence when you want to help them Iranians by starving them with your airtight sanctions? Even if your blackmailing of Iranian citizens do work and somehow, while starving, they stand up against the regime how are you going to put a stop to massive violence that will follow? Many more thousands will die because of people like you. 

But of course, you really could not give a damn. because you are against the millions who are supporters of the green movement. 


Fred

Mien Führer

by Fred on

Now now mien Führer, aren’t you a budding Islamist demagogue. What you wrote as justification is/was a known fact to all who are not in one way or another beholden to the Islamist Rapist Republic. There was no need for the ramping up of Islamist violence by your Islamist brethrens to prove the known facts.

BTW, unlike you I am for regime change at the hands of Iranians who are being treated violently by your regime on a daily basis. So it is you who is for violence not people like me who are advocating its end.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Fraud

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

you didnt expect me to write a marsieh for the beloved martyrs and the oppressed now did you? You asked whether it was worth it. 

Am I saddened by the deaths and the brutal crackdown of the regime? Of course I am. But I gave you an non-bullshit, neutral observation devoid of any emotions. 

 

Of course being you Fraud, one would understand how disappointed you might feel in the fact that the green movement is still alive and  it rejects most of the policies you stand for (airtight sanctions, violent sudden change of system..)


Fred

Mien Führer

by Fred on

Aren’t you so generous with Iranians’ lives, so big of you mien Führer?

All the Iranian men, women and children who were raped, maimed, tortured and murdered must really appreciate your generosity at their cost.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

It was worth it.

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

The regime has lost lots of legitimacy.

The world now sees Iranian society as a non-monolithic one. 

It has made Israel/neocons think twice about bombing Iran.

The Iranians now see that they cant just sit on teir asses and expect politicians or national heroes to make miracles. They have to do something themselves. 

And last but not least, it as opened the eyes of many exiled Iranians to the realities of Iran. 

 

So yes it was worth it. 


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I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

No way. Not worth it. Shame on the protesters. Shame on the USA

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

The sane world was insane in the last year, obviously. Why didn't they "step" in?

Fred, it hasn't even been a year, and you're still enjoying this rain on the parade. Jesus Hussein Christ! Taste and patience aren't really your best qualities, but who cares!? Anything for the Fuhrer!