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Fred
by Fred
04-Sep-2010
 

There seems to be a consensus among Iran watchers on number of indisputable facts. One being the country is not in a stable situation internally as well as externally. The other being unless IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic relents and abides by international law the international sanctions will get increasingly tougher. And should the Islamist Rapists still refuse to comply with enforceable UNSC resolutions, other means including force will come into play.

And what does IRR do to alleviate the crisis, like an arsonist it pours gasoline on the fire it has set and studiously fans the flames.

Both Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist gangs who are proxies of IRR have openly announced their opposition to the ongoing peace talks between the Palestinians and Israelis.  Hamas has gone a step further and on the eve of the talks murdered four Israeli civilians and to scuttle the peace talks has avowed to do much more of the same.

And yesterday during the “Gods Day” show in Tehran, Ahmadinejad made it crystal clear that IRR will make sure peace talks will go nowhere. Besides his usual claptrap about relocating Israel to someplace else, denying Holocaust and whole lot of similar Islamist nonsense, he went a step further and announced preparations have been made to liberate Palestine.

Unfortunately out of misplaced loyalty to Iran or overabundance of ignorance combined with healthy dose of Anti-Semitism disguised as devotion to justice for the Palestinians, few Iranians in diaspora have sided with IRR on this issue. Few even try to equate the current “government” with that of Mossadegh and erroneously put on par the illegal nuke activities with the oil nationalization.

These Iranians need to be reminded that a free and democratic Iran will be far more influential in achieving their goals than a rabidly belligerent Anti-Iran IRR which is inviting devastation on the country. Of course the assumption is these Iranians value the national interests of Iran above any others’ and are not Palestine-firsters.

 

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Maryam Hojjat

Well Said, Fred

by Maryam Hojjat on

I am with you in this issue.


Simorgh5555

Why hasn't any one mentioned the Qods force?

by Simorgh5555 on

Made up of PALESTINIAN and LEBANESE muslim forces who Attacked IRANIAN DEMOSNTRATORS IN 2009?

I am not asking that the Palestinians take sides in Iran but the LAST thing it should do is to take orders to shoot at Iranian people. PERIOD. 

The palestinains are only sewing the seeds of vengeance agaist themsleves as in shatila and Kuwait. In those countries the Pealestinians were hired as the local bully boys for their sponsorers. BIG MISTAKE. When will they learn? 


Onlyiran

I really don't think that the IRI gives a rat's behind

by Onlyiran on

about the Palestinians either.  After  all, can anyone name one good thing that the IRI has done for the Palestinians since it has come to power?  Much to the contrary, everything that the IRI has done has had the effect of setting back the Palestinian cause.  

IRI's level of compassion and care for the Palestinians is the same as that of Saddam Hussein and Gamal Abdel-Nasser, and that is to use the Palestinians as tools for their expansionist agendas.  

It's actuallly more accurate to say that the IRI "cares more about the propaganda value of the Palestinian cause" than to say that it cares more about Palestine and Palestinians.  


vildemose

Pimping Palestinians

by vildemose on

It's very generous and wise of IRI to have the Ministry of Love out in full force with their shiny motorbikes so that the adulation to God's own Government can be unadulterated by pesky voices of dissent that so ruined the spectacle last year with their impolite cries of "Death to the dictator." What a wonderful opportunity to pimp Palestinians in the cause of unfreedom.

Agha_Irani

Ahamghi-nejad

by Agha_Irani on

is still spouting the same old garbage.  

He questions the mandate of the Palestinian leaders when he is a phony leader elected by fraud (more accurately appointed by khamenei and kept in power by use of brutal force).   Then he keeps going on about Zionism - is he stuck in the 19th Century? - its absurd.  And he talks as if he represents the muslim world - as far as I can see most Arabs either hate the Tehran islamists or are wary of them - the man and his regime are a total joke detached from reality. 

Instead of being obsessed with being an arab wannabe and putting islam before Iran how about focusing on freeing the Iranian people not the Palestinians. 

 


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Mahmoudg

by Doctor X on

Okay . Okay there. You star and stripes loving, uber patriot, Kase dagh tar az ash American. Relax. May uncle sam reward you in this and that and other worlds :))))))as we say in persian.

You were in sucn rush to let the world know about your passion for america you made a big doo doo s along the way. Bebin aziz jan.

The world can not Unite AGAINTS a regime to ensure its survival. Ok? that should really be obvious. No aberoo rizi please.

 

 


narmaki

Fred, good blog and I'll make sure I read all your blogs

by narmaki on

in future.

the way these agents of Islamist regime masquarading as "Iranian-americans" cry foul each time you write something, you must be telling the truth.

And if these islamist terrorists are truely "iranian-americans" as they claim to be, I hope that US authorities monitor this site.


Sargord Pirouz

Same old personal

by Sargord Pirouz on

Same old personal accusations being hurled back and forth on the IC. Meanwhile, we ask again: Who is this Fred?


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

anti-semite CIA

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

this article illustrated what I've been trying to say, that what Israel
does is in no way aligned with American interests. from a washingtonpost
piece, http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/09/is...

 

The CIA took an internal poll not long ago about friendly foreign intelligence agencies.
The question, mostly directed to employees of the clandestine service branch, was: Which are the best allies among friendly spy services, in terms of liaison with the CIA, and which are the worst? In other words, who acts like, well, friends?
“Israel came in dead last,” a recently retired CIA official told me the other day.
Not only that, he added, throwing up his hands and rising from his chair, “the Israelis are number three, with China number one and Russia number two,” in terms of how aggressive they are in their operations on U.S. soil.
Israel’s undercover operations here, including missions to steal U.S. secrets, are hardly a secret at the FBI, CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. From time to time, in fact, the FBI has called Israeli officials on the carpet to complain about a particularly brazen effort to collect classified or other sensitive information, in particular U.S. technical and industrial secrets.
The most notorious operation employed Jonathan Pollard, the naval intelligence analyst convicted in 1987 and sentenced to life in prison for stealing tens of thousands of classified documents for Israel.

Oh anti-semite CIA!!


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

narmaki

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

I am an Iranian-American who cares for my people. Same cannot be said about you who have sided with Saddam (as you have admitted yourself, being an MEK supporter and all).


Simorgh5555

Right, Said, Fred

by Simorgh5555 on

Good commentary.


narmaki

moosir, you are not really iranian, are you? This is for you:

by narmaki on

نه غزه، نه لبنان،

جانم فدای ایران

 


cyclicforward

No one is buying this nonsense and stop barking

by cyclicforward on

They have been doing this show for thirty years and for what reason I have no idea. If you dare, just touch a corner of a Negeve desert in Israel and then you will see what happens to you and this crowd. 


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

madmoudg

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

I would argue that you care more about Israel than America. It is not in American interests to confront Iran militarily (as you suggest). As numerous military analysts and realists here in America suggest, military strike on Iran is bad policy. It exacerbates the whole situation. Even Mullen agrees with me that military strikes dont do shit. So it is very intereresting to see how you are going against the tide (and with the Israeli tide) on this one.

 

So from an Iranian standpoint, you will be called a traitor to your people - and fom an American standpoint, you still will be called one too. America cant afford another conflict in the region. 

 

Iran has been tried and tested for thousands of years. And thoughtout her history, it was not kind to people like you. 


mahmoudg

well said Fred

by mahmoudg on

I could care less for Palestinians or Israeli's (although I'd much rather see Israel prosper because it values human life and commerce more so that her Palestinian/Arab counter parts do).  I care first and foremost for the American Interests, then the Iranian ones.  Should not surprise you.  I live in America and therefore this land which has given me, other Iranians, and the world so much, has prirority.  When Iran is liberated and it looks like it will be by force, then it has the the right to be on equal parts with America and share in its interest and prosperity.  At the moment, Iran has no grounds to stand on.  Its regime is pillaging its people, and a grave danger to the world.  The world at large will unite against it to ensure that it survives and NOT Iran.  Hence it behoves the people of Iran to free themselves from these band of ciminials or the world will do their dirty deed for them.  And in the process many hundreds of thousands of basij and pasdars will perish.  By the way, not a tear would be shed on this side of the ocean for those terrorists.  They made their bed and they will sleep in it, for eternity figuritively. :) 


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

A realist?

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

It's rich Sargord, coming from someone who considers Hassan Abbasi, you know, the famous "expert" and "intellectual" of the Ahmadinejad crowd, a hero. The guy probably has the largest collection of pirated hollywood stuff than all iranians combined. He has his own shows where he analyzes minute by minute of shows like Alias, 24, Lost, etc. Highly amusing.

You are anything but a realist. you too are idealists in their own twisted ways. 


Sargord Pirouz

Moos

by Sargord Pirouz on

Hey, I'm merely a realist. Not a daydreamer longing for the imaginary.

You don't like hearing the truth? That's you problem. 


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

I have a bone to pick with you too Sargord

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Your nonstop defence of the regime is as bad if not worse. I deal with people like you on a daily basis on balatarin. You too are helping Israeli hawks make their case better, and hurting Iranians.


Sargord Pirouz

So. What's it to you,

by Sargord Pirouz on

So. What's it to you, "Fred"?

Who are you to offer such an opinion? How about coming forward and informing us about the actual man behind this amateur attempt at daily propaganda?

That's what we'd like to know.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

you are projecting Fred

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

"Unfortunately out of misplaced loyalty to Iran or overabundance of
ignorance combined with healthy dose of Anti-Semitism disguised as
devotion to justice for the Palestinians, few Iranians in diaspora have
sided with IRR on this issue. Few even try to equate the current
“government” with that of Mossadegh and erroneously put on par the
illegal nuke activities with the oil nationalization."

I'm not sure who you are refering to, but the same thing can be flipped around and be said about your untiring support for Israel. And not the ordinary Israelis who dont know any better but  those who are known violators of international law, human rights abusers and war criminals. your support for not only Israel's self-inflicted sins but more importantly their policy initiatives towards Iran - that have proven time and time again to be Israeli-first, and naturally not Iranians-first. From an Iranian perspective they are counter productive and anti-Iranian.

So this begs the question, Fred, as someone who jumps at every opportunity to call your oponents anti-semite, regime supporters and palestine-firsters, what exactly should we believe you to be? Almost all of your Iran remedies benefit Israel first, and ordinary Iranians last. It is ordinary Iranians who have suffered enough under this regime that will further become alienated from the western liberal democracies. It is they who will suffer the consequences of your favored policies, not you, not me, not Israel. 

 

These Iranians need to be reminded that a free and democratic Iran will
be far more influential in achieving their goals than a rabidly
belligerent Anti-Iran IRR which is inviting devastation on the country.

 It's so easy to write about it or even think it. you will no doubt be called a true iranian patriot by those who dont know any better - alike to how Palin woos naive soles by constantly using patriotic slogans - but in esence it means nothing to those who think in realistic terms. Because reality is far from your ideals. And often times idealists have turned good words into actions that have caused major blowback and catastrophy for everyone involved (see Iraq and Afghanistan).

 

Of course the assumption is these Iranians value the national interests
of Iran above any others’ and are not Palestine-firsters. 

 

I could say the same thing about you and Israel.

 

I value Iranian lives above all and Iran as a landmass second. for without Iranians Iran is but a piece of land. Can the same be said about those who want to inflict more harm on orinary iranians?