Iranian hypocrites & demagogues

Fred
by Fred
18-Nov-2010
 

After over year and half from when IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic, barbarically suppressed peaceful demonstrations, as far as some Iranians in diaspora are concerned, the dictionary definition of normalcy as “the state or fact of being normal” has been restored.

Things are back to normal; IRR chops limbs, strings up Iranian men, women and children in the never ending Islamist lust for death and inflicting pain.

Things are back to normal; IRR continues openly defying international law, exports terrorism and mocks the world powers as has-beens.

Things are back to normal; the hypocrites are out in force once again with their millennia theory, that as other usurpers in Iran’s long history have been, IRR will also one day be gone, therefore no need to fuss over it.

Things are back to normal; the populist demagogues are again plying their wares, blaming others for making Islamist Rapists do the only thing that they know to do, rape, pillage and destroy.

Things are back to normal; the lobbyists who while exempting themselves say “it ain’t right to get help from outside the ring” are back lobbying for IRR’s right to have nuke. After all, it is an inalienable right of Iranians which they are defending.

Things are back to normal; IRR and its gofers are back at pushing their fallacy of false dilemma. That in dealing with IRR, there are only two choices to be had. Either make a deal with it, or go to war. And since no one of sound mind wants war, lets make a deal with it. What about before Islamist Rapists impose war on Iran, helping Iranian people overthrow it? Well, that is not part of their false dilemma.

Yes normalcy has been restored.

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Marhoum Kharmagas

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

All right,  those of us who are against war/sanctions are "IRI supporters",

I said some of them not all. I have also said many times. I am not in favor of a war. I don't like the sanctions but something has to give. When I see people *never* criticizing the Islamic Republic it bothers me. Killing is killing no matter if IRI "courts" order it or some Nato bomb does it. I oppose war now. But if IRI were to start relying more on foreign hizbolahi troops and killing people I may change my mind. 

It is hard to decide what to do. I wish sanctions would focus on the IRI leaders. But for now they are not. So I do what I am able to both lobby for sanctions against the leadership. And to oppose sanctions on the regular people

PS,

I have challenged Fred when it made sense:

http://iranian.com/main/blog/fred/most-hated-w...


Roozbeh_Gilani

back to normal? dont think so....

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

The fascist islamist regime is actualy in a desparate shape. Economically and politicaly bankrupt and under siege. Yes sure, they'll kill, torture and rape for a little while more, but their time is over as sure as the pay check for their agents on this site will stop arriving at their london, toronto and LA residents in not so distant future!

BTW, good blog Fred. Thank You.   

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


marhoum Kharmagas

VPK, then do something!!!

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Prophet says: "The truth is that some of these "peace" types are really IRI supporters."

All right,  those of us who are against war/sanctions are "IRI supporters", why don't you go start your war instead of writing comment after comment after comment....... same with the AIPACi resident fascist.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

"Every day they rule Iran is hurt. "

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

I couldnt agree more. So how do we end their rule? if you think that sanctioning or waging wars will solve the problem you are deeply misguided. And its getting very tiring being called an IRI supporter. it would be more appropriate to here our case against sanctions intead of calling us IRI supporters.

 

here is one of them:

Hani Mansourian fears they will backfire in terms of regime change in Iran. His piece is worth a read. Citing Iraq and Zimbabwe, he notes:

As a result of these devastating effects on the general population,
social cohesion and a sense of community greatly deteriorated in both
countries, in turn decreasing the likelihood that the massive popular
uprising Western governments had hoped would be inspired by these
economic sanctions would ever occur...

He fears the same could happen in Iran:

Many years of sanctions
coupled with sub-optimal economic policies in Iran have resulted in a
weak economy and a fragile middle-class. The latest round of UN, U.S.,
and EU sanctions on Iran is likely to drive millions into poverty and
destitution. As economic opportunities for the growth of a solid
middle-class disappear, the young Iranians that have historically been
the agents of change in the country will lose their social base. 
Ironically, then, sanctions may do more to increase the power of the
Iranian government and to weaken the domestic opposition movement, to
the ostensible detriment of U.S. interests


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iranians like to get emotional over the simplest of issues. we cant think realistically and the emotion clowds our judgements.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Very good

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

point by LoveofLiberty; and exactly the point. The truth is that some of these "peace" types are really IRI supporters. They don't want to come out and say it. Because after the presidential fraud they don't dare. Now the new approach is "we love peace". Sure I love peace as well. But when Islamist are hanging people three at a time the peace is peace of  death. In addition the Islamists are wearing out the nation. Every day they rule Iran is hurt.

This is a hostage situation. What is the right thing to do? Who is the police. The problem is that USA does not make a good policeman. There is no appropriate authority to do anything!! UN is useless and no power on Earth has the legal right to do anything.

And there lies the dilemma. VPK


LoverOfLiberty

I guess for some people who

by LoverOfLiberty on

I guess for some people who post comments on this thread (and other threads on this site), life is so dear and peace is so sweet that such human conditions must be purchased at the price of repression, human rights abuses, and theocratic authoritarianism.

(To borrow from Patrick Henry's courageous "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" speech of 1775.)

And I think it is rather true that "a nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." - Alexander Hamilton


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Why do you have to insult people in your posts? You may disagree with Fred but do you think "warmonger" is furthering your point. It is not I guarantee you.


both of you have intent to kill as many ordinary iranians as possible because it justifies the means.

I don't know about Barry Rubin but I know Fred is not. I have seen no posting from Fred wanting to kill "ordinary Iranians". Of course Islamists only consider the Mollahs and their goons "ordinary Iranians". Therefore by that definition you may be right.  To me the Islamist goons are ordinary criminals.

In reality it is the Islamists who are right now killing ordinary Iranians. I was just reading about top konkor scoring Iranians. One at Stanford; one at Berkeley and one in Evin. How many Iranians have the Mullahs killed? How many on death row right now! How many communists did Khomeini murder! What happened to my friend's brother "hint: executed in 1982 at the age of 19 body never returned to his family". Now you have the never to claim Fred wants ordinary Iranians to die? 

Before you throw stones take a good look at your own house. And don't give me the BS about not supporting IRI. You have consistently supported all their positions. If you support someone's actions then you are their supporter.

How many people does Islamist Republic have to kill to make war a better option? No I am not advocating war just asking a question. What is the break even point beyond which war means fewer deaths.

Think about it.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

warmonger Fred

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Are you Barry Rubin's friend? It wouldn't suprise me. both of you have intent to kill as many ordinary iranians as possible because it justifies the means.

 

And Rabid Islamist khodeti. you are the regimes greatest asset. 


Simorgh5555

Brilliant as usual, Fred

by Simorgh5555 on

Every time I come to place a comment your number one fan, Sargord always beats me to it. When ever Fred writes a blog, Sargord is the first to read it. Fred, Sargord Mark  loves you.


Faramarz

Sargord Pictures

by Faramarz on

Sargord,

I came upon these Reza Shah era pictures. Are your relatives in these pictures?

 

Reza Shah's Cabinet

http://www.fouman.com/Y/Picture_View-Reza_Shah_Cab...

Reza Shah's Coup Cabinet (Ahmad Shah)

http://www.fouman.com/history/img/Coup_Cabinet_Rez...

 

 

 


Fred

Rabid Islamists

by Fred on

The rabid Islamist sack of liar refuses to cite my own words to support his charge that I, Fred, am a “warmonger”.

He tried this Islamist tactic on Barry Rubin as well, when challenged; again he had nothing to back up his nonsense.

Rabid Islamists stationed in the sane world,  keep on truckin!

 

 http://iranian.com/main/blog/moosirvapiaz/barry-rubin-harold-rhode-dissect-iranians


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Things are back to normal;

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

let me add another:

 

Things are back to normal; war mongers like Fred are beating the war drums while self rightously hiding behind human rights issues.

 


Sargord Pirouz

So I see we've resorted to

by Sargord Pirouz on

So I see we've resorted to temper tantrums with this post.