Go fly a kite!

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Fred
by Fred
10-Dec-2009
 

In case there has been a smallest of doubts about what my agenda is, should my constant commenting on other articles and blogs and as of recently writing blogs has not made it clear enough and with my command of the English languaage being not good enough for the Persian Shakespeares out there some have not gotten my point, here it goes in the clearest way that I know how to say it:

1- I believe IRR; the Islamist Rapist Republic is innately unreformable.

2- I am convinced by the mountains upon mountains of incontrovertible evidence that in suppressing dissent the Islamist Rapists will stop at nothing.

3- The behavior of Islamist Rapists has shown me in implementation of their brutality they have no moral barrier, no line that they will not cross.

4- To my mind and eyes, Iranians make the bulk of IRR victims and are treated as subhumans  by them.

5- Every morning that I wake up, I know during my sleep IRR has tortured, raped, maimed and murdered some more Iranians. 

6- The Islamist Rapists are after nuke, I neither buy their demonstrably lying explanations or that of their nuke lobbies or the gulibility of those who think they can simultaneously detest an Anti-Iran regime but out of some weird sense of patriotism be pro nuke while these innately Anti-Iranians are in power.

7- Aside the paid ones, all those who advocate “dialogue and diplomacy” without enumerating their solution to rid Iran and Iranians of this unreformable murdering Islamist Rapist Republic in all its forms--are knowingly or unknowingly helping the Islamist rapists’ survival.

8- I equate the messianic Islamist Rapist Republic to Nazis, they were unreformable and hellbent on disaster which they imposed on the German people and the world, these Islamist Rapists are following the same path.

9- Given the above and many unsaid other ones; my agenda is the overthrowing of this Anti-Iranian IRR.

Being fearful Islamist Rapists taking it out on my extended family in Iran more than they already have  I use a pseudonym.

Therefore, I, Fred, an Iranian national am after the overthrow of the Islamist Rapist Republic by any means necessary short of war, but know if it is not overthrown by Iranian hands, war it will be. That is why the airtight sanctions and asking of the sane world to wake up and openly provide moral and material support to the Iranians to overthrow the regime. That is why time is of the essence.

Now those who don’t like my opinion, have problem with my beliefs or detest my solutions have choices to make. Continue with their personal attacks which if they might have noticed do not bother or deter me. Come up with alternative suggestion on how to overthrow the Islamist Rapists and not just the strike fund and anti-riot gear slogan nonsense. Or as far as I’m concerned they can go fly a kite.

   http://www.rfi.fr/actufa/articles/120/article_9848.asp

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dAstet dArd nakoneh ;)


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10 year Asghar

by Fred on

Why would a giant intellectual of your caliber with ways with words and handling of questions ever waste time with “chicken sh*t Fred”. Take care

 

 


Asghar_Massombagi

To chicken-sh*t Fred

by Asghar_Massombagi on

No, Fred, I'm not an AIPAC lackey or neo-con wannaba or Reza Pahalvi groupie or slanderous intellectual midget Ahamd Chalabi in training.  You got me, pal.  'nough time wasted on you.


Fred

10 year Asghar

by Fred on

I did look up some of your 10 years of writing and see why you have no problem with using your name or at least the one you are using which again cannot be verified even by googling it or even some one vouching for you.

Again, what difference does it make what my real name is? What impact does it have on my opinions or as a seasoned write with 10 years of writing under your belt calling it “gondeh gooz(i)”?


Fred

The mindset part

by Fred on

I have no problem with the coward part, or your opinion on the matter. I was referring to the deleted part of the comment which was indicative of the commenter’s mindset which is unfortunately not that isolated. 


Asghar_Massombagi

Google my name

by Asghar_Massombagi on

You said "But should you wish to identify yourself with your full name and some ways that it can be checked to make sure it is accurate and is as you claim it to be, by all means go right ahead."  You questioned my identity and I responded.  All you have to do is google my name to verify it.  Why I responded to you the way I did?  You talk too much, claim too much.  Obviously, you're a professional blogger.  You keep asking other people who have the courage to use their own names to be transparent.  Keep calling anybody who doesn't agree with you part of the IRI lobby.  Why don't you be forthright and honest and speak with your own name?  If you're going to be such a gonde gooz, then put something on the line, you know, like the guys fighting the basij thugs on the streets of Iran?  And there is nothing exceptional about, F, we all have relatives back in Iran.


Jahanshah Javid

Until then

by Jahanshah Javid on

Fred, until your blog title changes to "Musings of Formerly Known as Fred", and you are willing to at least put your name out there, it's hard not to call you a chicken, especially when you constantly promote full blown resistance to the regime. We all want regime change, more or less, and we all have relatives back in Iran. You get some points for your rousing speeches, but please don't pat yourself on the back too much. It's insulting to the kids on the street in Tehran resisting Basijis head on. I'm saying all this because I know I'm a pretty big chicken myself compared to the people who are making real sacrifices.


Fred

10 year Asghar

by Fred on

Thank you Asghar for the kind words, I copy and paste it here in case your erudite comment gets deleted which I request it not to be.

 "Your're a coward, Fred I've been writing for this site for 10 years and I have only used my real name. And Kadivar stay out of other people's arguments.”

First, I don’t know you and I do not have an “argument” with you.

 Now: Could you say what part of my response to your question compelled you to write such comment?

You having been writing for this site for 10 years gives you the license to act in the way you just did?

You having been writing for this site for 10 years gives you the license to ignore the subject of the blog and ask for my identity? Especially when it was specifically addressed in the body of the blog?

 You having been writing for this site for 10 years gives you the license to ignore your own request, who are you, how to prove that you are who you say you are? If I, Fred, had chosen the name Asghar_Massombagi, that would have satisfied you and i would not have been a "coward"?

Why me being brave as you define it matters so much to you?

Why not answer my questions, here they are again:

While you are publishing that information and all the required details also add what difference it makes what my real name or for that matter any other blogger’s is good for? What are you planning to do with the real names? What difference do they make to the content of the opinions? Is this all because Asghar doesn’t want to flay a kite?

ps. I see both your original comment and the copy and pasted one in my post has been cleaned up and I understand the editorial decision.

I would just make the request that like some other sites in such cases the action is mentioned like, the comment has been edited by site monitor. Becase right now my copy and pasting your post does not make sense absence the deleted erudite parts.


Asghar_Massombagi

Your're a coward, Fred

by Asghar_Massombagi on

I've been writing for this site for 10 years and I have only used my real name.  And Kadivar stay out of other people's arguments.


Darius Kadivar

Fred Jaan Sangaretoh Negahdar & Ignore the Gauche Caviar ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Fred Jaan Sangaretoh Negahdar

Pro Bakhtiar Demonstrations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vas_tvGZgWE

Ignore the Regular "GAUCHE CAVIAR" and IRI apologists turned Democrat ...

SATIRE: Hamid Dabashi & George Galloway "Get me Out of Here, I'm a Celebrity"

 


In our community including on this site. We got to know them in France back in the 1980's with President François Mitterand and his own Royal Court claiming to be the People's voice and speaking for the Palestinian Cause and other so called injustices in the Third World only to make a Fortune Selling Arms to Iraq and Iran during the bloody 8 Year War.

They even overlooked the assassination of the Only Iranian Opponent to the IRI who was offering a Democratic alternative to their bloody rule.

Halah Een Aghayoon va Khanoumhad keh 30 Saal Saket boodand Yek Dafeh Daran Darbareyeh Hogougheh Mardom va Mardom Salary sohbat meekonand ...

Prime Minister Dr. Bakhtiar in 1984 Los Angeles, CA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKXWRzs-Mg

Keep Up the Pressure !

Best,

DK


Fred

Go right ahead Asghar

by Fred on

Asghar is asking me to identify myself, no thank you; I have lot of family members back home and can’t put them in more jeopardy as they already are. But should you wish to identify yourself with your full name and some ways that it can be checked to make sure it is accurate and is as you claim it to be, by all means go right ahead.

While you are publishing that information and all the required details also add what difference it makes what my real name or for that matter any other blogger's  is good for?  What are you planning to do with the real names? What difference do they make to the content of the opinions? Is this all because Asghar  doesn’t want to flay a kite?

 


Asghar_Massombagi

Isn't it time, Mr. patriot,

by Asghar_Massombagi on

that you come out of the closet and tell all you preach to who you are? If Tavakoli can stand on a podium in Tehran and challenge the regime knowing full well what would happen to him, shouldn't keyboard warriors like you who live and work in the safetly of North America and Europe stand up in their own name?  Just who are you, Mr. professional blogger?


vildemose

Irandokht: I haven't said

by vildemose on

Irandokht: I haven't said anything contradictory, it's only your preception. No one is using my ID, at least not that I know. I have no agenda or political affiliation to any group unlike most of you on both sides,  and if you say I do, so be it.

I'm a realist and see realties for what they are and not what I like them to be. I also don't care who is zionist or not or who is member of AIPAC or NIAC or CASMII. I dont see anything wrong with these groups. We cannot eliminate them and we need to be able to learn to deal with them without wishing their annihilation.


vildemose

Midwesty you say it's a

by vildemose on

Midwesty

you say it's a regime that might scare us with the nukes let's overthrow it. Which one are we talking about?

No, that is not what I'm saying. The regime does not scare me personally. What scares me is the fact that Israel and US are not going to tolerate a nuclear armed Iran and will do anything to stop the mullahs even if the mullahs are going for the "japan option" as Juan cole suggested a few weeks ago in his blog.

That is a fact that I cannot change. The power that be do not care about  stopping the democracy movement in Iran through their actions because that is not what they are concerned about. Despite, their rhetoric, the neocons and even the democrats couldn't care less if Iran was under a theocracy or democracy as long as their interest in the region is not threatned by Russia or China. In fact, the IRI serves their business interest (Arms export) in the region

The will never leave the ME because Russia and China will immediately fill the power vaccum, which is a no no for the Western countries interest.

why do you people assume that the US and Israel don't want the hardliners to rule Iran forever and keep us backward indefinitely as long as their own interest is intact in the region. They will bomb Iran and turn Iran into another Iraq if they have to prevent Iran from going nuclear knowing that it will only radicalize the population against them. The more radicalized the better for them, they have more excuses to bomb us again and again and again.


Q

Yawn! Another day, another sanctions blog from Fred

by Q on

Fred,

It's obvious the wholesale rejection of your self-admittedly AIPAC-blessed "solutions" by Iranians inside and outside Iran is not sitting well, and you think the louder you yell, or the more frequently you blog, you will actually change anybody's mind.

Therefore, I, Fred, an Iranian national am after the overthrow of the Islamist Rapist Republic by any means necessary short of war, but know if it is not overthrown by Iranian hands, war it will be.

Once again, the entire nation salutes your selfless sacrifice of having other people suffer hardship just because you have decided there is no other way.

So increadibly selfless and altruistic of you.

Some people are just naive, shortsighted and let their obviously irrational hatred blind them to history, even very recent history that doesn't even require any schooling to learn.

Others, however, couldn't care less about the actual consequences of what they're talking about and will use any and all rhetorical trick and emotional outburst to propagandize the course of action best suited for them and their "organizations".

Such people are easy to spot. They are the ones using over-sensational language so as to overwhelm the readers' common sense and logic. (Is there any other reason why the word "rapist" has to be mentioned in every one of your sentences? Think about it.) They are the ones using well known propaganda techniques such as dogged repetition and mud slinging, and character assassinations. The most hypocritical of whom do all this using fake identities, and they dare question the patriotism of others.

Before the Iraq war, Bush and Cheney never once said they wanted War. Not once did they claim to be seeking anything other than a "peaceful solution". Their words are nearly identical to Fred's.

If X doesn't happen, then war must happen. This is just a cheap way for a propagandist to play like he/she is after peace, while in reality, they will do all they can to make sure X doesn't happen.

I don't think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has any better friend than Fred and some of his cohorts in the west. It was thanks to them that he won the election the first time. And it was in spite of them that he was forced to use a coup to get it the second time. Now, it will thanks to them again that any internal movement will be discredited and all his rivals be discounted.


Mehrban

Bavafa

by Mehrban on

I am not sure if we need to trust them but use (accept) their help in a juncture where our interests may be aligned.  I think the West may welcome a Democracy (?) in the area at this time as IR has made everyone very nervous.  Of course they look after their own interest first and that is what we should do.  

Honestly, unfortunately, I think the West maybe more comfortable supporting a more hybrid system like the one a Reformist government offers than an outright secular Democracy (that is why the question mark).  It maybe viewed as less of a shock to the system.  There are many compatriots that feel the same way.  Too bad!


Bavafa

Mehrban: You are asking a

by Bavafa on

Mehrban: You are asking a hypothetical question and even as such, my answer is of course I would welcome that with open arms if that was going to be the case. But I have way too much mistrust in the intentions of the super powers (West or East). For far too long, they have proven that only their interest comes first and they would not stop at any thing to protect their interest. They have proven (in past and recent history) not to accept democratically elected governments, they are in bed with governments that couldn't spell "democratic" if their lives was dependent on it (essentially all Arab nations) and we every body knows without the West backing those government would fall in no time.

So, please, give me some reason why I should trust them now?

Mehrdad


Midwesty

vildemose jan,

by Midwesty on

"midwesty: How do you suggest we avoid a devestating sanctions and war against Iran while the IRGC is running amock and even scaring Obama?

Do you think a nuclear armed Iran is acceptable to the US and Israel??"

Well your point is different from Fred's: Fred says let's saction to ovethrow the scary regime, you say it's a regime that might scare us with the nukes let's overthrow it. Which one are we talking about?

If you are going to punish the criminal before crimes happen, which is nuke, nobody is going to buy your preemtive action.

If you are going to punish the criminal for his crimes then saction/war is not the answer for human rights violations.

Are we talking about human rights violation or nukes?


IRANdokht

Sneaky one vider! nice try :o)

by IRANdokht on

If you want to pretend that you have seen me use labels on your buddies go ahead, but you'd have to prove it or you could come back and apologize. 

You made me laugh though. Thanks ;-)

IRANdokht


IRANdokht

what attack?

by IRANdokht on

I attacked you videmouse?

Sorry I didn't know you were so sensitive. I asked one question and you call it an attack. I have seen many attacks on this site that you have never objected to.

On the subject of you being "apolitical", please don't insult my intelligence. ;-)   Your agenda is clear and your attempts to "yeki be nal bezani yeki be mikh" only makes me think different people with strong but different political agendas are using your ID. If all these contradictory statements and feelings come from you alone, then what I have to say may come across as a personal attack and I don't want to hurt your feelings again.

Sorry 

IRANdokht


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vildemose

by KouroshS on

Good Luck trying to get your question responded to:) You are dealing with pro's.


Anonymous Observer

Kharmagas

by Anonymous Observer on

"as the reality proves in cases of Afghanistan, and Iraq ..., very likely the puppet government will become as corrupt as IRI or more corrupt than IRI ...."

I don't think so, for many reasons.  The first is that the Iranian population is much more educated and progressive than both of its neighbors.  Also, after 50 years of struggle against Pahlavi corruption and nepotism and 30 years of struggle against IRI corruption and dictatorship, I think that Iranians have a sophisticated enough sense of right and wrong for politics that the likelihood of Afghanistan and Iraq like corruption in Iran will be very low.  


vildemose

Kharmagas Q: It's

by vildemose on

Kharmagas Q: It's interesting that you think you have any crediblity as a IRI supporter and a fake reformist....Q joon...

I really have to go now.. ta da for now Q kharmagas. 

 


vildemose

Irandokht: BTW, if you want

by vildemose on

Irandokht: BTW, if you want to call me a "zionist" or an "AIPAC Psychophant", go right ahead, you have my permission.


vildemose

Irandokht: What you're

by vildemose on

Irandokht: What you're suffering from is not being able to classify me because  I am apolitical and have no allegiance to any ideological dogmas.

I woke up late this morning so I didn't see any of the other attacks.

I know one thing, Obama or Israel  are not waiting for you and I to decide their Iran's foreign policy.

If the IRI continues to be under the leadership of military Junta, War against Iran in the next few years, is as they say in Persian. royeh shakhesheh.

 Irandokht, why do you think attacking me and Fred and others who don't agree with you verbatim is going to stop war and sanctions? 

I have to go to the dentist right now...But I will be back around 4 pm.

 


kharmagas

Just for you vildei-joon!

by kharmagas on

Just for you vildei-joon, I made my subject more generic to be inclusive!   

 

Also music for you, maybe that will help you to depart from the dark side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08MLygvzGdw&feature...

--yours untruly


IRANdokht

vidermouse

by IRANdokht on

You have a great timing. Come in here after all the real insulting comments get deleted and point finger at the ones who you do not agree with, pretending they're attacking people for no reason. Genius!

Due to all the zed o nagheez stances I have seen from you so far, I have meant to ask you this question a few times: are different people using yoru ID to leave comments or are all these comments written by yourself alone? 

IRANdokht


vildemose

Attacking Fred or Bijan is

by vildemose on

Attacking Fred or Bijan is not going to stop sanctions or war against Iran...why do we have to suffer this infantile behavior  day in and day out?


vildemose

midwesty: How do you

by vildemose on

midwesty: How do you suggest we avoid a devestating sanctions and war against Iran while the IRGC is running amock and even scaring Obama?

Do you think a nuclear armed Iran is acceptable to the US and Israel??


vildemose

 Are we and Fred to

by vildemose on

 Are we and Fred to suspend criticism of human rights abuses and other atrocities in IRI and put our heads in the sand...in order to serve peace?

Maybe the IRI's toudehi mozdoors  could start a new organization- Amnesia International- to serve that end. A counter-part to Amnesty International, whose careful reporting of the plight of dissidents serves the principle that "you are not forgotten.­" Instead of speaking truth to power, Amnesia International could have on its glorious banner: "Speak shhh! to power."

Iran's first priority is not to fight against "imperialism" at the expense of its own destruction.