Musings of a former chicken

Stop bickering!

Please tone it down!

Fredak

Sycophant better describes you serving AIPAC. I respect Muslim Mammad (and what he stands for) for the same reasons I respect Jewish Soros (and what he stands for).

Human frailties and proclivities

Those ghaltaagh career sycophants with Pari-bolandeh diction should not automatically assume others are suffering from the same afflictions, human frailties and proclivities as they are burdened with.     

Baa ejaazeh Mr Fred...

Darius Jaan:

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//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6rEgxKfu_c

Cheers.

Ebi aka Haaji

you're correct sir!

They don't like it but they still are very envious. They aren't considered worthy of any interview or allowed to lecture anyone themselves, because they'd have to work hard to achieve such academic prestige and political/scientific knowledge. Instead of improving themselves, they try to bring others down by making false accusations with their childish and moronic rhetoric.

but I was just making light of it, because Fred is... Uhh... well he's Fred! and he sounds funny when he gets all riled up and calls people names.

:o)

IRANdokht

tangible progressive green alternative (to ID)

ID, it is jealousy and much more. Although I am not a Muslim I know that people such as Mammad represent the best and most tangible alternative at this juncture (and beyond, in case of Mammad). The AIPAC crowd don't like that .....!  

...

Fred you said:

One can not be a self described “world renowned scientist”, expert in nuclear matters, widely read columnist, chronicler of his IRR’s splendid economic revitalization, avid reader of 30.000 pages of Shariati, … and not also acquire telepathic powers.

If that doesn't show how jealous you are, I don't know what will!

I always thought you had a little man crush on Mammad... now I think you're also jealous.  Cute!   ;-)

IRANdokht

kharmagas LOL

That Was a Good One !

Thanks for the laugh !

Easy Kadivar, enjoy this clip!

Take it easy Kadivar, enjoy this clip:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyA9sPJIFhA

And five years ago, I went

And five years ago, I went back there. While people are still poor, their conditions are much much much better than what I had seen 35 years ago. Schools, hospitals, roads, and other essentials have been built

Look around yourself, wherever you are and see if there was any change in the past 35 years. You seem to think because of IRI people should have stopped breathing, working and living. You seem to have lost the concept of what is the issue here... perhaps very conveniently. What was the discourse of Pahlavi opponents -including myself- was not that he was not building roads and hospitals. It was freedom. Since when you decided to trade your freedom for a piece of real estate development, which btw, without 8 years of war and 30 years of being an outsider in international community, could have been developed far far faster and better than what your are bragging about.

It's a pity to fall in such state of low self esteem and I'm not blaming you. 

Souri The "Independant" Air Head !

Good ! 

Then Refrain From Pretending to be a Cyber Friend only to Stab me in the Back !

Petite Idiote !

Attention seeker?

Maybe!! but not your attention anyway! Stick to your video fantasming.

Good luck!

Souri The Independant Attention Seeker! ;0)

who responds systematically to the ignorants she claims to want to ignore ?

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2415xALIL3M&feature=related

Good Night Attention Seeker ! 

LOL

Ignorance again!!

Not having a "Hez" desn't mean being of "Hezbe Baad".

It means being independant.

Have you ever heard that word?

Souri That's Right Little FLAGGER ;0)

Stay Out of This and Go Join YOUR HEZBEH BAAD !

A L'occasion je vous mettrez Un coup de Poliche ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od-yGpuRFgo&feature=related

LOL

Good exmple of ignorance and bullying, DK !

Although we didn't need any more proof of this, in your case. Now, you see why I said I stay away from discussing  these topics with the ignorants!!!

Late blooming prodigy Haji

It was bound to happen, lo and behold it has. One can not be a self described “world renowned scientist”, expert in nuclear matters, widely read columnist, chronicler of his IRR’s splendid economic revitalization, avid reader of 30.000 pages of Shariati, … and not also acquire telepathic powers.

Albeit an extreme rarity, such late bloomer of a prodigy know it all is certainly a gift to mankind.  

Theoretically such power  allows this Haji know it all to nail down the time of the next earthquake or reveal the exact chemical composition of cure for cancer and alike.

Too bad the unique Haji is wasting his powers as a nuke lobbyist for his Islamist brethrens in the Islamist Rapist Republic.

Doctor Haji Know it all knows for certainty what an “imbecile” “has never read one page of”, and might think he can set up the said “imbecile” to get into a debate on the merits of his home town  Islamist charlatan. Well Haji pekh pekhoo know it all, khodeti! 

To Mammad: wonderful comment!

I truly enjoyed reading your comment. The fact about Sistaan & Balouchestan under the Shah's reign, was a top most!

Thanks for bringing all those facts about the Banana Republic. That was a long overdue content.Personally I stay aways from political debate (specially with the politic-ignorant)but I always wished someone would clear this up!

All you said, in your comment to DK were the jewel facts! Personally I stay aways from political debate (specially with the politic-ignorant)

I'm grateful to you. Thanks.

Fokoli Mammad Care for a Banana From Your Friend Yazdi ? ;0)

Mammad the Fokoli Islamist Say's :

1. Sistan and Baluchestan was in far worse shape under the Shah than now. As a student in the 1970s I went to Zahedan, Zabol, and Chahbahar, and saw the ultra-extreme poverty that people were living in. And, what was the Shah was trying to do? Building a strong road from Zahedan to Chahbahar for the U.S. forces, because he had planned to convert the port to a navy base for the U.S. 5th Fleet.

DK Answer:

First of all Please Offer Evidence of What you claim here. I only believe what I see ...

Secondly: If the government needed a military base in such an area for Iran's security, I don't see why they should have hesitated. France built a entire nuclear military base in TAHITI because they considered it as Strategically important. They have done similar things in French Caledonia and the people there have also been Very dissappointed and demand political and territorial independance, something France Refuses to deliver to them.

Mammad the Fokoli Islamist Say's :

2. You do not know what Banana republic means, because if you did, you would not use it the way you did. Banana republic was used for Latin American countries in the 1960s and 70s that were superficially a republic, but were in fact ruled by the U.S. Southern Command, countries like Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Columbia, etc. Cuba, as bad or good it might have been, has never been a Banana republic under Castro.

DK ANSWER:

Care for a Cuban Banana Under the SOVIET Influence ? :

pictory:Yazdi Meets Castro, Cuba (1980's)

pictory: Ahmad Khomeiny Training with Cuban guerrilla fighters (mid 1970's)

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH ON CUBA:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

After coming to power in 1959, Fidel Castro's built a highly effective machinery of repression, according to Human Rights Watch.[1].

As early as September 1959, Valdim Kotchergin (or Kochergin), a KGB agent, was seen in Cuba.[15][16] Jorge Luis Vasquez, a Cuban who was imprisoned in East Germany, states that the East German secret police Stasi trained the personnel of the Cuban Interior Ministry (MINIT).[17]

According to a book by Paul. H. Lewis, who has written books apologising for the Stroessner, Mussolini and Peron regimes, by the end of 1960, all opposition newspapers had been closed down and all radio and television stations were in state control.[18] Moderates, teachers and professors were purged.[18] Lewis also states that in any given year, there were about 20,000 dissents held and tortured under inhuman prison conditions

Mammad the Fokoli Islamist Say's :

3. The IRI has also sent abroad thousands of students on scholarships. So, should they be loyal to it?

DK ANSWER:

NO, Not because YOU think They Should But  SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T ! LOL

All the more that they Even Ask for Assylum in Foreign Lands rather than live in Iran. The Latest case being Actors like Golshifteh Farahani or Narges Kalhor the daughter of Ahmadinejad's Cultural Advisor . In addition Since the Revolution there has been a BRAIN DRAIN of educated Iranians leaving Iran for good. YOUR REPUBLIC HAS FAILED in Offering These Brilliant students with Jobs or promising Career. That Was NOT the Case during the Shah's Era.

Who Built the Infrastructures ?  Trained the future Teachers and Universties in Iran when the country hardly cared about educating people or sending Women to Study in Schools before Reza Shah ?

What About Women's Emancipation Laws and Promotion of their Rights:

Women Rights & Activists During Pahlavi Era :

Does the name of Farrokhro Parsa Ring a Bell ?

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrokhroo_Parsa

Or Mahnaz Afkhami ?

Eminent Persians: Mahnaz Afkhami International Women's Conference in Mexico City (1975)

As for Shirin Ebadi the Nobel Peace Laureate under the Islamic Republic, she was the First Women Judge to be named under the Pahlavi Era ...

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirin_Ebadi#Life_and_early_career_as_a_judge 

Related Blogs:

WOMEN RIGHTS: Princess Ashraf Chairman of Women Status Commission (1965)

Women's Day: Mahnaz Afkhami Pioneer Feminist (1975)

Women's Day: Farah, Jihan, Mahnaz Tehran (1970's)

Women's Day: Reza Shah and Son visit School Girls (1930's)

Women's Day: First Women to Attend Tehran University (1940's/1950's)

Female Ministers in Pahlavi Era (1970's)

Eminent Persians: Mahnaz Afkhami International Women's Conference in Mexico City (1975)

Mahnaz Afkhami International Women's Conference in Mexico City (1975)

Female Ministers in Pahlavi Era (1970's) 

EMINENT PERSIANS: Poetess Parvin E'tesami Greets Iran's Crown Prince at Library (1940's)  

Were it Not for the Pahlavis You would be like the Poor Afghans today. THAT IS A FACT !

Mammad the Fokoli Islamist Say's :

4. You and the imbecile Fred, who has never read one page of Dr. Shariati's writing, but constantly attacks him viciously, are true soulmates. You both have a lot of claims, but know very little, and have no substance whatsoever! As usual, you throw at peiople something that somebody (anybody!) said and is on the internet! That is the depth of your knowledge!! 

DK ANSWER:

Please Offer Evidence of Me Attacking Dr. Shariati ? I don't think I would even bother Mentioning him ... LOL  

benross Jaan¨the theme was Not Democracy but Territorial integr

benross Jaan,

The Point I was making on this thread was Not Democracy or whether the Shah had to establish a Democracy in Iran but the fact that the Territorial integrity of Iran was naturally fragalized by the establishment of a Republic in Iran.

This is a simple and logical observation given that our country's bounderies and "Iraniness" has Always been associated to the Persian Empire, the territory of which either expanded or was reduced through out the centuries regardless of which ruling Dynasty since its foundation by Cyrus the Great. 

Our TERRITORIAL IDENTITY and Integrity was therefore ALWAYS Deeply Associated the the Ruling Dynasty and therefore the CROWN ! 

When for more than 25 centuries people are used or trained to repeat in classes "KHODA-SHAH-MEEHAN" regardless of being Baloutch, Kurd, Lore or any belonging other ethnic group suddenly are told that "You Don't Need to Say Shah anymore because you are Free !" ... This very naturally leads people to think that they are no more accountable to the Nation's Rulers and even less when those Rulers are Presidents. There is No Need to Accountability.

If this can indeed be considered as a form of "emancipation" of tribes or ethnic groups towards auto determination, it is not necessarily good for the NATION that sees itself as a Whole and Homogenous entity.  The Reason being that it encourages Separaticism and That is why some Kurds or Azaris or Baloutches demand being separated from the nation in order to run their lives independant of central government.

The Abolishment of the Monarchy meant from a purely administrative point of view for a country like Iran as the End of Central Government.

So the Republican's are from this point of view responsible for precipitating Separatist demands amongst populations that did not consider themselves as Iranians or entirely assimilated. In Wanting to Topple the Shah at All costs ( CONTRARY TO CONSTITUTIONALISTS Like Chapour Bakhtiar) Iranian Jomhurykhah's did Not try to evaluate the Pro's and Con's of abolishing the Monarchy.

This is Where I call them as RESPONSIBLE for the current Crisis in some remote regions of the the country particularly the borders of Iran.

The current assassination of the Revolutionary guards in Sistan and Balouchestan  by Independant groups like the obscure Jundullah proves my point !.

To see Republican's Deny this FACT is Pure Hypocrisy ...

The CROWN whether one likes it or not had at least this advantage in the eyes of most Iranians as a GLUE so to speak aimed at keeping the country together. Once you eliminate that GLUE if you have a less unifying force as in Iran's case State Religion like the Shia doctrine, you fail to keep people of a different religious group like the Kurdish Sunnis loyal to the Nation.

One can blame the Monarchy for not being Democratic BUT you cannot deny that it had it's advantages. One being to maintain Iran's Territorial Integrity under the Two Pahlavi Kings ...

Best,

DK

DK, you don't know what you are talking about!

You do not know what the hell you are talking about.

1. Sistan and Baluchestan was in far worse shape under the Shah than now. As a student in the 1970s I went to Zahedan, Zabol, and Chahbahar, and saw the ultra-extreme poverty that people were living in. And, what was the Shah was trying to do? Building a strong road from Zahedan to Chahbahar for the U.S. forces, because he had planned to convert the port to a navy base for the U.S. 5th Fleet.

And five years ago, I went back there. While people are still poor, their conditions are much mucjh much better than what I had seen 35 years ago. Schools, hospitals, roads, and other essentials have been built. the railroad from Kerman to Zahedan is almost complete. Chahbahar has become a free port (instead of a navy base for the U.S.) which has generated jobs, etc. etc.

2. You do not know what Banana republic means, because if you did, you would not use it the way you did. Banana republic was used for Latin American countries in the 1960s and 70s that were superficially a republic, but were in fact ruled by the U.S. Southern Command, countries like Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Columbia, etc. Cuba, as bad or good it might have been, has never been a Banana republic under Castro.

3. The IRI has also sent abroad thousands of students on scholarships. So, should they be loyal to it?

You speak as if the Shah was paying them from his own pocket!! I am sure the Shah thought so, because he and his family (as well as you apparently) always acted as if they owned Iran, just as Khamenei and his gang also act so. But, the reality is, in both cases, the students were paid from the country's wealth.

The students' loyalty should be to their nation, not to the ruler. But, you do not seem to understand this simple principle.

4. You and the imbecile Fred, who has never read one page of Dr. Shariati's writing, but constantly attacks him viciously, are true soulmates. You both have a lot of claims, but know very little, and have no substance whatsoever! As usual, you throw at peiople something that somebody (anybody!) said and is on the internet! That is the depth of your knowledge!! 

Mammad

Ahmad and Darius

I guess you both have good points. In retrospect, every single Iranian could do better than what he/she did during the previous regime. But this is in RETROSPECT. Meaning that now we have to learn from the past and do better. Mohamad Reza Shah fell victim to those he gave wings (unlike his father) in order to fight the cold war. Was this avoidable? Could he be more democrat without us now living in western countries blaming Mohamad Reza Shah for giving too much wing to the left with his 'democratic' manners and nurturing the seeds of 'now' a stalinist regime in Iran?! In 'retrospect' we may speculate anything we like. But the history is already drawn and it's for us to learn lessons for the future. Fighting the old fights that have no relevance to the needs of 21st century Iran is not helpful.

ahmad_ 45 Years Ago ? LOOOOOOOooooool

And You Weren't Even in Iran during the Events ? And Want to give Lessons to those who witnessed them firsthand ?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooool

Thank You for Making MY Day Agha ANN TELECTUAL !

You Remind me of the other MR. GREEN CARD Yazdi who left Iran and came back shouting Marg Bar Shah and calling the Shah a Dictator !

Khak too Saretoon !

Besides YOU Are Wasting MY Time by commenting me on this thread ! Who asked you to get involved if you weren't interested in the first place ?

Boro Bacheh Fokoli ...

Go Fetch Your Palestinian Passport at the Nearest HAMAS Embassy near You !

LOL  

LOL

I left Iran 45 yrs ago, stop wasting my time and acting like a 5 year old.

ahmad_ Then Why Didn't YOU Listen to Him ?

Some Did : 

Shapour Bakhtiar's interview during the Revolution: 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1GKLpkebSI

Got it ? Smart Ass !

DK

moron is the one who can't understand that it is the leader who sets an example and the rest will follow.

you got it ? moron!

ahmad_ indeed But WERE YOU BEHAVING LIKE THE SWEDES ?

Or Like Palestinian Morons disguised as FOKOLI Islamists ?

Yasser Arafat Hails Iranian Revolution amidst Iranian Revolutionaries :

QUDS DAY IRAN PROTEST:
 

Dariush Kadivar says

here is the quote from him;

Your Parents probably weren't to blame entirely, my family ran away too
but we did not call for the Revolution BUT democratic Reform of the
Monarchy into a Truly Constitutional Monarchy. 

BUT democratic Reform ??????

the shah had 37 years to start what you just stated. But in an interview with that american journalist who asked him; why can't you be like the king of sweden? he replied, when my subjects act like the swedes, then I will act like the king of sweden.

enough said

Che Sera Sera ...

Monarchy or Republic Whatever will be will be ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuEC3r7a-o

But You will be surprised by the Result !

What have I been doing?

educating the next generation of Iranians to be realistic and not go the destructive path quite alot of exiles today are going.

My friend, wishful thinking is the school of thought you guys belong to. Thinking that Iran will go back to monarchy, now THAT is wishful thinking.