The expendable Moslems

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Fred
by Fred
26-Oct-2009
 

Remember the logic so many self described Anti-war, human rights peace activist compatriots used to use. Every time they were faulted for almost eight year long silence in not loudly and repeatedly condemning the IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic during the previous U.S. administration they came up with a variation of the same logic.

It went something like this; well of course we condemned it as we do any such violations anywhere but not wanting to give “warmongers” extra ammunition to attack Iran we kept it to ourselves. Some who have gone even further by legitimizing, attending and at times organizing various IRR sponsored propaganda functions, point to commingling with IRR as proof of their dedication to the cause of denying “warmongers” another war.

Ok, although only the happy recipients of lucrative business proposals from Nigerian bankers with dormant accounts can swallow that nonsense, but why not, it is not that they have kept quite in other instances too, or is it?

Lets for example take a look at the human rights violations in the Palestinian territories. The result is a mixed bag, if the violator is IRR’s adoptee, Hamas, they get an automatic pass, if not they are condemned. Same goes for Syria, if its secret nuclear facility is attacked; it is condemned, but not its atrocious human rights violations. Same goes for Afghanistan, when American OEF or those of UN Security Council approved, ISAF forces, cause civilian casualties, they are immediately and loudly condemned, but when the Islamists do it no problemo. The ongoing internecine slaughter in Pakistan gets the same treatment. The pattern is clear but to make it absolutely evident even to the recipients of Nigerian windfalls, one last example.

On Sunday morning two Islamist homicide bombers in a hurry to meet their maker took with themselves 132 Iraqis and severely injured another 520. With a conservative estimation of six people to a family of each victim, in two coordinated deliberate acts well over three thousand human beings have had their lives irreparably changed for the worst.

So what have our vociferous roaming Anti-war, human rights peace activists’ reaction to this latest Islamist outrage been?  You guest it, not a thing. 

After all just like human rights have been a tool for their nemesis’ foreign policy, for Islamist/Anti-Semites and their likeminded lefty allies too it is just another tool in their bag of tricks.  The only difference being unlike the sane world, they don’t care about victims, nevermind them being Moslems, Jews, Christians or their own compatriots, if they don’t fit into their agenda, they are expendable.      

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Fred

“intellectual charlatanisms”

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To speak of “intellectual charlatanisms” for a poster who repeatedly ignores the subject of blogs to put forth his favorite subject is just rich.

 


AMIR1973

The ever evasive Fred

by AMIR1973 on

What does my passport have to do with anything? Would you like to bring my driver's license and birth certificate into it as well?   BTW, I used the word "invading" twice because the U.S. government is currently invading and occupying two countries.   My question, though, is this: why do you refer to the U.S. government as part of the Sane World? Are the previously mentioned actions (invading--two times most recently, along with attacking, bombing, and occupying on a nearly continuous basis) sane? I would be interested to hear your response--free of evasions, artifice, or intellectual charlatanism. Regards.

ex programmer craig

Bijan A M

by ex programmer craig on

You are right. Fred's post is hard to "refute", as it's just an observation of the obvious. I'm not sure why anyone would even want to try to "refute" it. But maybe it's just a continuation of that same twisted logic Fred was talking about, where the end justifies the means... even if the means seem to be directly at odds with somebody's oft stated high-minded ideals.


Fred

Corroborator II

by Fred on

 

The corroborator says/asks:

Or is it you are getting your war planes ready to bomb my residence, since seemingly you are accusing me of corroborating with 9/11 attackers? The propagandist jan, take your foot out of your mouth, sit down for a moment and give your brain a rest, then start typing a coherent short answer to the simplest question you have ever been asked.

……and since you are having horrible time of comprehending the original question I did do you a favor by putting it in a way so even a kindergarten kid can understand, and hopefully so can you. “ 

 

Even the corroborator’s kindness to use kindergarten friendly format eludes me.

If by “corroborating with 9/11 attackers” cooperating is the intended word, and not corroboration, then the answer is a resounding, unreserved NO.

FYI: Webster defines corroboration: to support with evidence or authority: make more certain. Within that definition the previous post from the same poster most definitely falls into corroboration of the blog’s content.

As for the rest of the corroborator’s post, including my, Fred's, “warplanes” and bombing residences, I’m afraid even the kindergarten friendly version will not be making any sense.


Anonymous8

Fred, why so angry?

by Anonymous8 on

you call people various names instead of referring to them. now Bijan is copying you. you use this esoteric words like you are lead actress in a mexican soap opera! why not just say who you have a problem with from the beginning?


capt_ayhab

The propagandist

by capt_ayhab on

Since you have gone by the deep end of twisting the words and inserting meanings that does not exist, I was wondering if you are going to be capable of giving the answer to the question.

Or is it you are getting your war planes ready to bomb my residence, since seemingly you are accusing me of corroborating with 9/11 attackers? The propagandist jan, take your foot out of your mouth, sit down for a moment and give your brain a rest, then start typing a coherent short answer to the simplest question you have ever been asked.

Here is the SIMPLIFIED version of the question so even YOU can understand[I hope].

Why do you think they attacked US on 9/11?

Arajeefs do not count as an answer[You have already tried that], and since you are having horrible time of comprehending the original question I did do you a favor by putting it in a way so even a kindergarten kid can understand, and hopefully so can you.

 

-YT 


Fred

Invading passport

by Fred on

A poster asks:

Why is the word "warmongers" in quotation marks?, Are you denying that the U.S. government is the current World Heavyweight Champion in invading other countries, bombing, attacking, invading, and occupying? What name should one give it if not "warmongering"?   Do you have a better term for such actions on the part of the "sane world", Fred?”

 

Answer: Because when you quote others as the poster has done with the “sane world” you utilize the quotation marks.

 

Although this blog is NOT about U.S. a suggestion nevertheless: in one short sentence describing U.S.  the poster has used “invading” twice, with that affinity in mind; he might consider using it in place of the overused “warmonger” and make it his own new name for U.S. 

It would then go something like this, I just use my invading passport and whisk through any international airport.  

  


AMIR1973

Why is the word "warmongers" in quotation marks?

by AMIR1973 on

Are you denying that the U.S. government is the current World Heavyweight Champion in invading other countries, bombing, attacking, invading, and occupying? What name should one give it if not "warmongering"?   Do you have a better term for such actions on the part of the "sane world", Fred? 

SamSamIIII

Dont mind The ommatie 9/11 cheerleader

by SamSamIIII on

 

 He just had a session of sam therapy performed on him in my blog so he is just fumed , dazed and spoof out nonsense in frustration like a knocked out Taleban boxer ;::)) ..heehoaa, what can i do, I have that unpleasant effect on closet jehadists turned civil rights activists, I bring the worst in em heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh :)..munjii cake still preaching rights rethoric cheering 3000 dead souls..what a conman.

Cheers!!! 

Khar , mate, I,m with you but before it could belong to all of us we must free it from the Ommatie gang hold, cheers !!!

 

 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


Bijan A M

I wish

by Bijan A M on

every soul in Iran could see the piece that Khar has posted. It is sensational. I enjoyed watching it.

 

Thanks for your post Khar.....


benross

Khar

by benross on

Thank you Khar for the reminder. It is needed once in a while. Now let's focus on what system we need so that all Iranians -not only know- but feel that way.


Khar

Doostaan Iran Belongs to All of You!

by Khar on

IRAN MAALe SHOMAST!


IRANdokht

Fred

by IRANdokht on

So cute!  :o)

IRANdokht


Fred

Mumbling liar

by Fred on

The frustrated poster with poor reading skill who is a  habitual  liar is now mumbling.

Wishy-washiness does not bode well with facts. 


IRANdokht

LOL Fred

by IRANdokht on

Why don't you let me keep a straight face?! dammit! LOL

I actually like the way you write! It sounds soulless, emotionless and repetitive. I guess you got your own "writing style". Congrats! ;-)

As far as being a liar... I believe you have been proven a liar many times in the last couple of days, so lets not try to change the subject. I didn't lie, you did and you do and you probably will for a long time, because people like you have to lie, otherwise their agendas would be exposed... On this blog, you didn't lie per se, you just showed a crooked version of the truth and drew your own wrong conclusion. So stop calling me a liar, but don't stop commenting, I am actually enjoying this!

:o)

IRANdokht


Bijan A M

Proof2

by Bijan A M on

The self-righteous poster as always makes accusations.

  

If, by “you” the arrogant poster means I, Bijan A M, then the arrogant poster must back up his/her claim in the form of direct quotes or would remain a vicious propagandist anti American poster with poor reading skills who is an anti-semite as well.

Sorry Fred for plagiarizing your sentences. They were so to the point I couldn’t resist.


benross

Or do you think that

by benross on

Or do you think that something, something like years of being screwed over by DEMOCRACIES and freedom loving[my foot] RULERS of west, brought them to point of no return, and decided to fight back for their mere existence?

That said it all. Captain, you do not belong to secular discourse. And I suspect you don't even know it. 


Fred

A poster with many eccentricities

by Fred on

The frustrated poster with poor reading skill who made an accusation that cannot be backed up for the simple reason that it was a bold face lie, is now a frustrated poster with poor reading skill who is decidedly a liar too.  


IRANdokht

The frustrated blogger...

by IRANdokht on

The frustrated blogger cannot speak like normal people so the frustrated blogger replies like a robot and repeats the same nonsense but this time in bold letters but the same nonsense nevertheless.

 

How did I do?  :o)

do I sound like one of your khodi people now? ;-)

IRANdokht


Fred

The corroborator

by Fred on

When one writes a blog, there is always a chance someone would step forward and corroborate some aspects of the content beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

In this blog entry  a particular group of self described Anti-war, human rights peace activist compatriots compartmentalized as, Islamist/Anti-Semite and likeminded lefty ally, were pointed out as being quick to condemn one human rights violation and forgive another based on their wacky dogma.    

 

The  poster with corroboration of the point of the blog in part says:

 

Or do you think that something, something like years of being screwed over by DEMOCRACIES and freedom loving[my foot] RULERS of west, brought them to point of no return, and decided to go and blow up some tallest buliding in the world and killing of few thousand innocents?

BTW, this is not a philosophical question, rather a question of reality, as opposed to the world you live in. 

 

Regardless of any real or made up wrong,  justifying murder, let alone mass murder on the scale of the 9/11 is not a good way to endear people and win them over. Moreover it is indicative of a flawed logic and worst, amoral characteristic wholly incapable of grasping the most basic concept of human rights.  

This is exactly what the sane world is facing. Thank you for  sharing your values and corroboration of the point of the blog so beautifully. 

 

Ps. the corroborator has just slightly modified his post, but the highlighted quote is accurate as to the original posting and even with the modification it still conveys the corroborator’s justification of mass murder.


capt_ayhab

Mr. Fred

by capt_ayhab on

there is only one variable missing from your otherwise usual recital of the handouts.

Did those Muslims, one beautiful autumn morning  woke up from their sleeps, and while consuming chaie shirin and noon panir, decided that they were bored and needed to add some excitement to their lives?
and decided to go and blow up some tallest buliding in the world and killing of few thousand innocents?

Or do you think that something, something like years of being screwed over by DEMOCRACIES and freedom loving[my foot] RULERS of west, brought them to point of no return, and decided to fight back for their mere existence?

BTW, this is not a philosophical question, rather a question of reality, as opposed to the world you live in. 

-YT 

P/S you usual misquote of some old religious text does not count as answer, neither your lovi dovi pals.

PP/S lets not pat yourself in the back with your other ID's. People are on to you. This condition has a name which can be cured by proper medication.


Fred

Proof

by Fred on

The frustrated poster with poor reading skill in part says:

 

“when the innocent civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon etc... were being slaughtered, you cheered the aggressors on.”

 

By “you” should the frustrated poster mean I, Fred, then the frustrated poster must back up the highlighted claim in form of direct quotes or would be a frustrated poster with poor reading skill who is a liar as well.

 

Wishy-washiness does not bode well with facts. 

  


IRANdokht

Hypocrisy galore!

by IRANdokht on

Unlike you, the anti-war groups have not cared where the victims are from. They're the ones who have always objected to any bloodshed. On the other hand it's clear that all wars are ok with you as long as they're conducted by the "chosen people" and they benefit their extended cousins. 

Sorry, you can't cry foul now! when white phospherous was raining on Gaza's  innocent women and children, when the innocent civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon etc... were being slaughtered, you cheered the aggressors on. Now you are asking where anti-war people are? where they've always been! You're the ones who changed your tune.

Since your buddy asked, you can tell him: that's the definition of "por roo" and a shameless hypocrite! 

IRANdokht


Bijan A M

What is a good word for “por roo”?

by Bijan A M on

Fred, how could any fair-minded person argue against the point of your blog? You have only made a factual statement in this blog that some (on this site or anywhere) are blinded by prejudice, self-righteousness and arrogance and have no concept of fairness. Facing with your factual statement, instead of hiding their face under some rock, they have the audacity to come out and say:

“They've been calling for peace since the bloody war started! They've spoken against war and constant unnecessary bloodshed”

 

Fred, how insensitive and Zionistic of you to consider 9/11 as start! of the bloody war?. You see, 9/11 and all these homicide bombings are necessary bloodshed. These are only reactions to unnecessary bloodshed, the ones you do to defend yourself.

 

What would be wrong with admitting ignorance and being honest with yourself and moving on?

Thanks Fred for taking the initiative to verbalize this bias.

 


Fred

The wrong "they"

by Fred on

A frustrated poster, who obviously is a careless reader as well, opines:

“They've been calling for peace since the bloody war started! They've spoken against war and constant unnecessary bloodshed.”

 

If the “they” the frustrated poster is defending are the same as subject of this blog and cited examples, NO that “they” have never ever condemned Islamist savagery, on the contrary they have made excuses for it and at times even justified it.

 

Wishy-washiness does not bode well with facts.  


IRANdokht

what was their reaction????

by IRANdokht on

They've been calling for peace since the  bloody war started! They've spoken against war and constant unnecessary bloodshed.

What was your reaction? Did you just wake up now and realize that there's a war going on? LOL

jal al-khalegh!

IRANdokht


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Wut?

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

You sound like Marty Peretz.